What happens when you eat 10,000 Calories in 1 meal?
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10,000 calories would be very hard, but I am sure I have certainly done over 5,000 before at special events. Give me unlimited food and I will graze like nobody's business. I'm also a tall-ish male so that may improve my ability to handle it gastrointestinally (interestingly enough, I have IBS, and huge days of eating like that don't trigger it nearly as much as just some random food will). At a wedding last month I probably had back to back days (rehearsal and wedding day), where I had a meal (defined as a period over 2-3 hours) that were 5,000 plus in calories. My experience with it based on the gains I did and did not get was that while that would certainly not be a good idea to do regularly, my body probably did not absorb all the calories from those meals.
In general, fat gain does not happen overnight (even though water weight on the scale leads people to believe otherwise), which is why I tend to always try to preach calm when people post statuses freaking out about 1 or 2 bad days they have. Just like weight is not lost overnight, it is not gained overnight either. It is long term trends that affect us. However regular binging is part of a trend, and that wouldn't be beneficial from a weight loss, physical, or emotional perspective. But nobody gains a whole lot of fat off one single meal, so it's important to keep that in perspective sometimes.5 -
Eating 10k calories in one day is hard, let alone one meal. Anyway, here's an experiment with 10k in one day and the body composition changes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPI5cuq3NPU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6cIbIvEGJM
She was back to normal after a few days of water bloat. she does cheat days a lot too and the same thing happens0 -
Excuse me while I take a BARF break.......🤢4
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Joey Chestnut consumes 35,025 calories in less than 10 minutes every 4th of July.
Nathan's hot dog sausage=170 each
Nathan's hot dog bun=297
Total calories per hot dog=467
Last few year's average= 75 consumed
Total calories = 35,025
Once upon a time, I would eat two hot dogs and an entire box of Twinkies for breakfast then have a pint of Ben & Jerry's Chocolate Fudge Ice cream for dessert because every meal deserves dessert. Wash it all down with a Coke.
Hot dogs with Miracle Whip and ketchup=1074
10 twinkies = 1500
Ben & Jerry's Chocolate Fudge Brownie Ice cream = 1040
20 oz Coke = 240
Total = 3854
After that, a typical lunch would be a pound of fried chicken livers, a hamburger, a personal sized pizza, potato wedges, a Snickers or other candy bar, and another coke. NOT separate lunches--all those items every day. All from a convenience store.
Total = 1900 or more.
That's 5774 for 2 meals.
After that, dinner. Ridiculous amounts of food either fried or pasta-based with plenty of bread on the side. If we had spaghetti, I had an entire loaf of garlic bread by myself. We always made one for each person in the house. If someone else didn't finish theirs, I would.
I have no doubt that most days in my life I went over 10,000 calories and probably had several meals that would come close if I really thought about it. Like the time I ate an entire large super supreme Pizza Hut pan pizza by myself at one sitting. Then ate a pan of brownies for dessert. Coke to wash it down. Looks like that's about 7000 calories.
10,000 calories in a day is easy to do if you are eating the wrong foods. Think about it.
I did think about it and read your food list, and sorry but there is no way I'd be able to keep down all that food. I'm sure there are some people who have habituated themselves to large volumes of food or high fat content who could do that, but I don't think that's normal, no offense intended. I still eat what most people would consider "wrong foods" pretty much daily, and I have never been able to eat that volume of fatty foods. In fact, that's the idea behind eating low carb - that for a lot of people, eating high fat makes it almost impossible for them to overeat. The only way I can even imagine getting near 10,000 calories would be non-stop chugging of a non-carbonated sugary drink!10 -
Since I eat 1000-1200 calories/day, I know I would never be able to hold down anywhere near that amount of calories! I would be super ill!!
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LuciBThinner wrote: »Since I eat 1000-1200 calories/day, I know I would never be able to hold down anywhere near that amount of calories! I would be super ill!!
If you are weighing all solid food and still eating under 1200 calories per day not counting exercise, then you are undereating.9 -
Joey Chestnut consumes 35,025 calories in less than 10 minutes every 4th of July.
Nathan's hot dog sausage=170 each
Nathan's hot dog bun=297
Total calories per hot dog=467
Last few year's average= 75 consumed
Total calories = 35,025
Once upon a time, I would eat two hot dogs and an entire box of Twinkies for breakfast then have a pint of Ben & Jerry's Chocolate Fudge Ice cream for dessert because every meal deserves dessert. Wash it all down with a Coke.
Hot dogs with Miracle Whip and ketchup=1074
10 twinkies = 1500
Ben & Jerry's Chocolate Fudge Brownie Ice cream = 1040
20 oz Coke = 240
Total = 3854
After that, a typical lunch would be a pound of fried chicken livers, a hamburger, a personal sized pizza, potato wedges, a Snickers or other candy bar, and another coke. NOT separate lunches--all those items every day. All from a convenience store.
Total = 1900 or more.
That's 5774 for 2 meals.
After that, dinner. Ridiculous amounts of food either fried or pasta-based with plenty of bread on the side. If we had spaghetti, I had an entire loaf of garlic bread by myself. We always made one for each person in the house. If someone else didn't finish theirs, I would.
I have no doubt that most days in my life I went over 10,000 calories and probably had several meals that would come close if I really thought about it. Like the time I ate an entire large super supreme Pizza Hut pan pizza by myself at one sitting. Then ate a pan of brownies for dessert. Coke to wash it down. Looks like that's about 7000 calories.
10,000 calories in a day is easy to do if you are eating the wrong foods. Think about it.
Joey Chestnut is a world champion professional eater. That is like saying that scoring 30 points in a professional basketball game is easy because Lebron James does it all the time.
As far when you ate that much, what was your highest weight? The bigger you are, the more calories you need to just exist. But if you regularly ate 10,000+ calories in a day I'd imagine you would have gained a significant amount of weight very quickly. And nothing about what you described as a regular eating pattern seems remotely easy to accomplish. I don't think most people would be able to come close to that.8 -
JulieSHelms wrote: »I'm kind of surprised at the blowback I'm getting here. I didn't make this up.
https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/nih-study-shows-how-insulin-stimulates-fat-cells-take-glucose
Your article describes insulin's role in the body's fat storage mechanism. Excess energy can be stored as fat. Excess energy happens when one is in a calorie surplus. A calorie deficit ensures that there is not a sustained level of excess energy to be stored in the body. It is not true that insulin is "busily packing fat" if one is not in a calorie surplus.
I agree. I thought we were talking about 10,000 calories....a surplus.5 -
JulieSHelms wrote: »Muscleflex79 wrote: »JulieSHelms wrote: »It depends on what it is as to how much of that will get packed as fat.
If you ate 10,000 calories of pure whale blubber, your insulin would never be triggered, and you would store none of it. If you ate 10,000 in pasta, pizza and ice cream, your insulin would be working overtime diligently storing some of the excess. If you ate 10,000 in pure protein (for a long time), you'd eventually starve (google rabbit starvation diet).
So if you're gonna binge--leave out the carbs. Of course most binge-worthy foods are a carb/fat mix--Ideal for long-term storage!
did you seriously just say that if you eat 10,000 calories of fat it would not be stored or cause any weight gain?
Yep. You have to have circulating insulin to store fat. You need carbs to trigger insulin. So without insulin your body would use what it needs and pass out the rest.
I actually proved this (to a lesser degree) in my weight loss journey. I was a huge carb eater and insulin resistant--so constantly had tons of insulin busily packing fat. I lost my first 50 lbs (in 8 months) by simply removing carbs almost completely from my diet--but the kicker was I was eating MORE calories from fat and protein to make up the loss of volume. Till I hit a wall--no more came off, but regardless of how much I ate (carb-free) I didn't gain at all. Then I started actually cutting calories. 1200/day for 8 months (and low-carb but not no carb) and lost the last 80lbs. Fat and protein alone do not make you gain.
This is over-simplified because the body is very complex and food is rarely just one thing, but in general it is true. I find CICO to be even more of an over simplification and not as accurate if you don't take into account the source of the calories.
how do you explain people that use keto to maintain or bulk??10 -
I used to binge eat with bread as my trigger food. I used to be able to eat between 8.000 and 12.000 calories in one sitting; within a short time I felt very lethargic, hot, tired and needed to have a few hours sleep followed by a mother (or father) of a heart burn which would last 12 hours or even longer. By next morning I always asked myself: "WHY, OH WHY???" But through MFP and so many supportive members (I am learning - so far I have lost 35 kg, 80 pounds.7
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Interesting. so in theory while not mentally sound, i am better to full on binge on all my foods in one meal overloading my system to not hold all the calories. VS spread out that food over three days where i may hold more of it.
And THAT is the logic that results in the rolling around in severe discomfort and then throwing up, yes. On the whole, as an experience, I would not give it five stars on TripAdvisor.
not 10,000 calories. but i mean say i normally eat 1400/day and then i got out and have 3 spices of pizza, deep fried pickles (1-2) half a pint of the really bad B&J's and 2 beers/glasses of wine then a few hours later have chips. that would be a huge number of calories but not make me sick. (maybe not feeling super awesome but not puke).
I think you'll notice that I mentioned in my initial post that eating the extra as very calorie-dense foods gives you a much better chance of not feeling bad.
I'm not sure what point you're trying to make here. But binge eating huge amounts of calories is a bad idea whether you burst your stomach, or throw up, or don't.3 -
Joey Chestnut consumes 35,025 calories in less than 10 minutes every 4th of July.
Nathan's hot dog sausage=170 each
Nathan's hot dog bun=297
Total calories per hot dog=467
Last few year's average= 75 consumed
Total calories = 35,025
Once upon a time, I would eat two hot dogs and an entire box of Twinkies for breakfast then have a pint of Ben & Jerry's Chocolate Fudge Ice cream for dessert because every meal deserves dessert. Wash it all down with a Coke.
Hot dogs with Miracle Whip and ketchup=1074
10 twinkies = 1500
Ben & Jerry's Chocolate Fudge Brownie Ice cream = 1040
20 oz Coke = 240
Total = 3854
After that, a typical lunch would be a pound of fried chicken livers, a hamburger, a personal sized pizza, potato wedges, a Snickers or other candy bar, and another coke. NOT separate lunches--all those items every day. All from a convenience store.
Total = 1900 or more.
That's 5774 for 2 meals.
After that, dinner. Ridiculous amounts of food either fried or pasta-based with plenty of bread on the side. If we had spaghetti, I had an entire loaf of garlic bread by myself. We always made one for each person in the house. If someone else didn't finish theirs, I would.
I have no doubt that most days in my life I went over 10,000 calories and probably had several meals that would come close if I really thought about it. Like the time I ate an entire large super supreme Pizza Hut pan pizza by myself at one sitting. Then ate a pan of brownies for dessert. Coke to wash it down. Looks like that's about 7000 calories.
10,000 calories in a day is easy to do if you are eating the wrong foods. Think about it.
I did think about it and read your food list, and sorry but there is no way I'd be able to keep down all that food. I'm sure there are some people who have habituated themselves to large volumes of food or high fat content who could do that, but I don't think that's normal, no offense intended. I still eat what most people would consider "wrong foods" pretty much daily, and I have never been able to eat that volume of fatty foods. In fact, that's the idea behind eating low carb - that for a lot of people, eating high fat makes it almost impossible for them to overeat. The only way I can even imagine getting near 10,000 calories would be non-stop chugging of a non-carbonated sugary drink!
Owning a like. I know my habits tend to go more toward the restrictive side, but even when I was in restrict-binge-purge cycles, there was absolutely no way I was throwing back 10,000 calories a day. The menu above does *not* strike me as a typical, normal, healthy meal. I can't even fathom still being hungry after having that many hot dogs, 10 twinkies, and a full pint of ice cream.
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Joey Chestnut consumes 35,025 calories in less than 10 minutes every 4th of July.
Nathan's hot dog sausage=170 each
Nathan's hot dog bun=297
Total calories per hot dog=467
Last few year's average= 75 consumed
Total calories = 35,025
Once upon a time, I would eat two hot dogs and an entire box of Twinkies for breakfast then have a pint of Ben & Jerry's Chocolate Fudge Ice cream for dessert because every meal deserves dessert. Wash it all down with a Coke.
Hot dogs with Miracle Whip and ketchup=1074
10 twinkies = 1500
Ben & Jerry's Chocolate Fudge Brownie Ice cream = 1040
20 oz Coke = 240
Total = 3854
After that, a typical lunch would be a pound of fried chicken livers, a hamburger, a personal sized pizza, potato wedges, a Snickers or other candy bar, and another coke. NOT separate lunches--all those items every day. All from a convenience store.
Total = 1900 or more.
That's 5774 for 2 meals.
After that, dinner. Ridiculous amounts of food either fried or pasta-based with plenty of bread on the side. If we had spaghetti, I had an entire loaf of garlic bread by myself. We always made one for each person in the house. If someone else didn't finish theirs, I would.
I have no doubt that most days in my life I went over 10,000 calories and probably had several meals that would come close if I really thought about it. Like the time I ate an entire large super supreme Pizza Hut pan pizza by myself at one sitting. Then ate a pan of brownies for dessert. Coke to wash it down. Looks like that's about 7000 calories.
10,000 calories in a day is easy to do if you are eating the wrong foods. Think about it.
I did think about it and read your food list, and sorry but there is no way I'd be able to keep down all that food. I'm sure there are some people who have habituated themselves to large volumes of food or high fat content who could do that, but I don't think that's normal, no offense intended. I still eat what most people would consider "wrong foods" pretty much daily, and I have never been able to eat that volume of fatty foods. In fact, that's the idea behind eating low carb - that for a lot of people, eating high fat makes it almost impossible for them to overeat. The only way I can even imagine getting near 10,000 calories would be non-stop chugging of a non-carbonated sugary drink!
Back in my early 20s when I heavily drank, I imagine I probably came close to 10,000 days because I could add at least 2,000 from alcohol, plus it would always involve a ton of eating.
But like eating too much food, those had a lot of negative effects, and I never really absorbed it all because it would come back up.
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Interesting. so in theory while not mentally sound, i am better to full on binge on all my foods in one meal overloading my system to not hold all the calories. VS spread out that food over three days where i may hold more of it.
And THAT is the logic that results in the rolling around in severe discomfort and then throwing up, yes. On the whole, as an experience, I would not give it five stars on TripAdvisor.
not 10,000 calories. but i mean say i normally eat 1400/day and then i got out and have 3 spices of pizza, deep fried pickles (1-2) half a pint of the really bad B&J's and 2 beers/glasses of wine then a few hours later have chips. that would be a huge number of calories but not make me sick. (maybe not feeling super awesome but not puke).
I think you'll notice that I mentioned in my initial post that eating the extra as very calorie-dense foods gives you a much better chance of not feeling bad.
I'm not sure what point you're trying to make here. But binge eating huge amounts of calories is a bad idea whether you burst your stomach, or throw up, or don't.
sorry i was just thinking "out loud". I shouldn't have posted that particular thought in the end.
I don't tend towards binge and purge. Just on a special night out with a high cal meal, some alcoholic drinks and one of those fancy desserts the calories totally add up to a day's worth (or more depending on the type of alcohol). But that in theory i shouldn't gain the equivalent amount of fat as the calories consumed would indicate (straight math) based on the discussion on the thread. not something i plan to do nor to eat enough to make myself sick. Just a high calorie but "normal" night out.
And i totally would eat 2-3 slices of hawaiin pizza, a few deep fried pickles, half a pint of B&J's and two beers in a meal back in the day. and not feel sick at all. And yes maybe some Chicago popcorn a few hours later.2 -
JulieSHelms wrote: »Yep. You have to have circulating insulin to store fat. You need carbs to trigger insulin. So without insulin your body would use what it needs and pass out the rest.
I'm kind of surprised at the blowback I'm getting here. I didn't make this up.
https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/nih-study-shows-how-insulin-stimulates-fat-cells-take-glucose
I think there is some confusion there.
Insulin stops the fat release from fat cells, allows glucose uptake by liver and muscles (and fat cells if those are topped off and current energy usage isn't lowering blood sugar fast enough).
But it does not prevent fat storage if plenty of it is floating around from a meal not used for immediate energy needs too.
You can still store fat without insulin being elevated if you have absorbed excess energy needs.
That link is merely discussing the finer details of what is already known to occur.
Here's more details on the fat cell aspect.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4985254/
Your experiment of n=1 probably showed you didn't absorb it all in the first place.
So you didn't get the calories you logged, and created what's needed for CICO to work.
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Interesting. so in theory while not mentally sound, i am better to full on binge on all my foods in one meal overloading my system to not hold all the calories. VS spread out that food over three days where i may hold more of it.
And THAT is the logic that results in the rolling around in severe discomfort and then throwing up, yes. On the whole, as an experience, I would not give it five stars on TripAdvisor.
not 10,000 calories. but i mean say i normally eat 1400/day and then i got out and have 3 spices of pizza, deep fried pickles (1-2) half a pint of the really bad B&J's and 2 beers/glasses of wine then a few hours later have chips. that would be a huge number of calories but not make me sick. (maybe not feeling super awesome but not puke).
I think you'll notice that I mentioned in my initial post that eating the extra as very calorie-dense foods gives you a much better chance of not feeling bad.
I'm not sure what point you're trying to make here. But binge eating huge amounts of calories is a bad idea whether you burst your stomach, or throw up, or don't.
sorry i was just thinking "out loud". I shouldn't have posted that particular thought in the end.
I don't tend towards binge and purge. Just on a special night out with a high cal meal, some alcoholic drinks and one of those fancy desserts the calories totally add up to a day's worth (or more depending on the type of alcohol). But that in theory i shouldn't gain the equivalent amount of fat as the calories consumed would indicate (straight math) based on the discussion on the thread. not something i plan to do nor to eat enough to make myself sick. Just a high calorie but "normal" night out.
And i totally would eat 2-3 slices of hawaiin pizza, a few deep fried pickles, half a pint of B&J's and two beers in a meal back in the day. and not feel sick at all. And yes maybe some Chicago popcorn a few hours later.
Back in the day, when I was morbidly obese, I could eat a garlic pizza bread, a whole large pizza with a side of stuffed jalapenos and three different dips, and follow up with a giant cookie or a brownie the size of a small pizza; and only half the time would I suffer gastric distress at 2am.
These days I only need to eat a large bowl of cereal, a tuna baguette, a chocolate tiffin, a Yorkie bar, a 110g Galaxy bar, a halloumi burger with a ridiculously tiny side of onion rings, and some fruit with a single serving of ice cream - all over a much longer time period - and I'm in pain for hours.
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missysippy930 wrote: »Very interesting topic OP.
Makes me wonder about how many calories the people on “My 600 Pound Life” consumed daily to get to 600 pounds. I would think it would have to be almost non stop eating all day when they are awake.
10,000 calories is an awful lot of food.
Not positive, but guessing I’ve never eaten that much in one day. So, I guess it’s consistently, overeating, not a one day binge, where the pounds add on.
Yes, it is interesting to watch “My 600 Pound Life” patients lie to Dr. Now and themselves about how much they are eating. There was one woman in this current season who was hospitalized for a few months and lost about 100 pounds on a controlled diet. Then she went home and in her mind she was still eating 1200 calories, but at her next weigh in she had gained. So she had to be eating at least quadruple what she was eating in the hospital, but she kept saying she was sticking to the diet.
I find their denial fascinating, and helpful for addressing my own.9 -
Muscleflex79 wrote: »JulieSHelms wrote: »Muscleflex79 wrote: »JulieSHelms wrote: »It depends on what it is as to how much of that will get packed as fat.
If you ate 10,000 calories of pure whale blubber, your insulin would never be triggered, and you would store none of it. If you ate 10,000 in pasta, pizza and ice cream, your insulin would be working overtime diligently storing some of the excess. If you ate 10,000 in pure protein (for a long time), you'd eventually starve (google rabbit starvation diet).
So if you're gonna binge--leave out the carbs. Of course most binge-worthy foods are a carb/fat mix--Ideal for long-term storage!
did you seriously just say that if you eat 10,000 calories of fat it would not be stored or cause any weight gain?
Yep. You have to have circulating insulin to store fat. You need carbs to trigger insulin. So without insulin your body would use what it needs and pass out the rest.
I actually proved this (to a lesser degree) in my weight loss journey. I was a huge carb eater and insulin resistant--so constantly had tons of insulin busily packing fat. I lost my first 50 lbs (in 8 months) by simply removing carbs almost completely from my diet--but the kicker was I was eating MORE calories from fat and protein to make up the loss of volume. Till I hit a wall--no more came off, but regardless of how much I ate (carb-free) I didn't gain at all. Then I started actually cutting calories. 1200/day for 8 months (and low-carb but not no carb) and lost the last 80lbs. Fat and protein alone do not make you gain.
This is over-simplified because the body is very complex and food is rarely just one thing, but in general it is true. I find CICO to be even more of an over simplification and not as accurate if you don't take into account the source of the calories.
how do you explain people that use keto to maintain or bulk??
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liaoverbrook wrote: »it'd be interesting to know whether you'd gain the same amount eating 10,000 calories of food vs a single 10,000 calorie drink (if one existed w the same amount of fat/nutrients/everything else)
10,000 calories is 10,000 calories. You might pee a lot more with the drink though.1 -
liaoverbrook wrote: »it'd be interesting to know whether you'd gain the same amount eating 10,000 calories of food vs a single 10,000 calorie drink (if one existed w the same amount of fat/nutrients/everything else)
10,000 calories is 10,000 calories. You might pee a lot more with the drink though.
I think though, if we're assuming that your body would struggle to digest 10,000 cals and some would either be sent back up or go through undigested, would that be less of a problem if all the intake was in liquid form. I agree if 10,000 cals were successfully digested, I'd assume the weight gain would be the same. Mind you this whole thread has now completely ruined my appetite and I'm slightly concerned the thread could be a bad influence on certain people!12 -
I did think about it and read your food list, and sorry but there is no way I'd be able to keep down all that food. I'm sure there are some people who have habituated themselves to large volumes of food or high fat content who could do that, but I don't think that's normal, no offense intended. I still eat what most people would consider "wrong foods" pretty much daily, and I have never been able to eat that volume of fatty foods. In fact, that's the idea behind eating low carb - that for a lot of people, eating high fat makes it almost impossible for them to overeat. The only way I can even imagine getting near 10,000 calories would be non-stop chugging of a non-carbonated sugary drink!
This was a pattern brought on by a lifetime of bad eating habits and an extremely stressful job under a really dictatorial boss. It was simply normal for me to eat my stress and feelings throughout my life. Even as a child, a snack would be 6-10 slices of buttered toast slathered in jelly or a whole box of snack cakes.
As far when you ate that much, what was your highest weight? The bigger you are, the more calories you need to just exist. But if you regularly ate 10,000+ calories in a day I'd imagine you would have gained a significant amount of weight very quickly. And nothing about what you described as a regular eating pattern seems remotely easy to accomplish. I don't think most people would be able to come close to that.
See above regarding how the pattern occurred. I'm not saying it is a pattern easily accomplished, I am just saying it can and is accomplished all the time. This was a lifetime in the building. My highest weight during this pattern is largely unknown. At 21 years old (when I became pregnant), I weighed 375. I am 5'1". In my 40's for the typical day I described in my original post, I again reached 290.
I was in my forties before I started trying to change things. My stress levels, hormone levels, and general thought patterns have been recently modified.
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I did think about it and read your food list, and sorry but there is no way I'd be able to keep down all that food. I'm sure there are some people who have habituated themselves to large volumes of food or high fat content who could do that, but I don't think that's normal, no offense intended. I still eat what most people would consider "wrong foods" pretty much daily, and I have never been able to eat that volume of fatty foods. In fact, that's the idea behind eating low carb - that for a lot of people, eating high fat makes it almost impossible for them to overeat. The only way I can even imagine getting near 10,000 calories would be non-stop chugging of a non-carbonated sugary drink!
This was a pattern brought on by a lifetime of bad eating habits and an extremely stressful job under a really dictatorial boss. It was simply normal for me to eat my stress and feelings throughout my life. Even as a child, a snack would be 6-10 slices of buttered toast slathered in jelly or a whole box of snack cakes.
As far when you ate that much, what was your highest weight? The bigger you are, the more calories you need to just exist. But if you regularly ate 10,000+ calories in a day I'd imagine you would have gained a significant amount of weight very quickly. And nothing about what you described as a regular eating pattern seems remotely easy to accomplish. I don't think most people would be able to come close to that.
See above regarding how the pattern occurred. I'm not saying it is a pattern easily accomplished, I am just saying it can and is accomplished all the time. This was a lifetime in the building. My highest weight during this pattern is largely unknown. At 21 years old (when I became pregnant), I weighed 375. I am 5'1". In my 40's for the typical day I described in my original post, I again reached 290.
I was in my forties before I started trying to change things. My stress levels, hormone levels, and general thought patterns have been recently modified.
Thank you for clarifying. Your post specifically said 10,000 cals is easy to do if you're eating the wrong foods, it wasn't clear to me that you meant after a lifetime of working towards it in that way.6 -
missysippy930 wrote: »Very interesting topic OP.
Makes me wonder about how many calories the people on “My 600 Pound Life” consumed daily to get to 600 pounds. I would think it would have to be almost non stop eating all day when they are awake.
10,000 calories is an awful lot of food.
Not positive, but guessing I’ve never eaten that much in one day. So, I guess it’s consistently, overeating, not a one day binge, where the pounds add on.
I'd guess it's something you build up to also though, right? So they start out eating 3000, then 4000, then 5000. And their body gets used to dealing with that volume of energy slowly but surely over the years. Maybe gets more efficient at storing energy as they go, so they are wasting less of it eventually? The episodes I've seen where the person is mostly bedridden, it does seem like what they do all day to keep busy is eat.
I would think the average person who hasn't been morbidly obese for awhile, would have a tough time keeping down 10,000 calories in a meal or even day, regardless of calorie density.If 1lb of fat is 3,500 Calories does one gain 2-3lbs after a 10,000 Calorie meal? Do you gain it over night or after some days?
I know glycogen is stored in the liver until glucose/atp levels are too high in our blood, but is there a limit to how many glucose/ATP molecules can be produced in _ time? Is there a rate or limit by which the body can convert glycogen to fatty acids stored as fat?
Or does the body not absorb it all?
I guess I'm asking.. will the body process every "calorie" in excess and store it as fat or is there a limit?
Just a guess, but I don't think our body ever processes every single calorie. Barring living in a lab 24/7 hooked up to all kinds of monitors, all the numbers we use are estimates, and calorie counting is a game of manipulating estimates until your results line up. I'd guess that the farther outside of "optimal" you push the consumption/digestion/elimination process, the more variance from the estimates you get.
I think this is where the stomach stretching idea comes from. Dr. Now has often said that the part of the stomach he removes is excessively large due to being stretched out from huge volumes of food. Then again you can hit 10,000 plus calories per day eating 5 to 6 large fast food meals (assuming each is about 2000 calories). That's how some of his clients actually do eat.5 -
SO I just watched both of the videos... I could totally eat what she ate in a day! Not sure how much I was really eating at my "peak" weight several years ago, but probably a good 3,000-4,000 on weekends.
Only once or twice did I actually feel sick while eating that much (over several years; not daily but definitely on a weekend when I had nothing to do except eat & watch TV), and usually bc of fried food an/or just too much at one time. She spaced out her meals for recovery (lol!).
She didn't talk about how long her joints hurt past that first day after the 10K challenge, but the pain from edema probably went away the next day after she drank lots of water and presumably worked out a bit, too. Also wondering why she was taking the digestive enzymes, though. I mean in most overfeeding situations, those would not be consumed... probably just to keep her from getting a bad stomach ache the next day, lol??
Also LOVED how she brought along the cheeze ball tub to the gym with her
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kshama2001 wrote: »missysippy930 wrote: »Very interesting topic OP.
Makes me wonder about how many calories the people on “My 600 Pound Life” consumed daily to get to 600 pounds. I would think it would have to be almost non stop eating all day when they are awake.
10,000 calories is an awful lot of food.
Not positive, but guessing I’ve never eaten that much in one day. So, I guess it’s consistently, overeating, not a one day binge, where the pounds add on.
Yes, it is interesting to watch “My 600 Pound Life” patients lie to Dr. Now and themselves about how much they are eating. There was one woman in this current season who was hospitalized for a few months and lost about 100 pounds on a controlled diet. Then she went home and in her mind she was still eating 1200 calories, but at her next weigh in she had gained. So she had to be eating at least quadruple what she was eating in the hospital, but she kept saying she was sticking to the diet.
I find their denial fascinating, and helpful for addressing my own.
I’ve seen several episodes where people are hospitalized, for complications usually, put on a restricted diet, lose a lot of weight, released from the hospital, put the weight back on. Deny to Dr Now that they were not sticking to the diet. Denial runs rampant. It would be helpful to know what a typical day of eating was for them. How much they had to be eating to get to such a high weight. Going from, however many calories, to a limit of the 1200 calories Dr Now puts them on.
I never kept track of calories until MFP. To get an idea I logged a typical day of what I might eat, before I started counting calories. It wasn’t anywhere near 10,000 calories. Really, how much can a normal stomach hold, without becoming painfully uncomfortable.0 -
missysippy930 wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »missysippy930 wrote: »Very interesting topic OP.
Makes me wonder about how many calories the people on “My 600 Pound Life” consumed daily to get to 600 pounds. I would think it would have to be almost non stop eating all day when they are awake.
10,000 calories is an awful lot of food.
Not positive, but guessing I’ve never eaten that much in one day. So, I guess it’s consistently, overeating, not a one day binge, where the pounds add on.
Yes, it is interesting to watch “My 600 Pound Life” patients lie to Dr. Now and themselves about how much they are eating. There was one woman in this current season who was hospitalized for a few months and lost about 100 pounds on a controlled diet. Then she went home and in her mind she was still eating 1200 calories, but at her next weigh in she had gained. So she had to be eating at least quadruple what she was eating in the hospital, but she kept saying she was sticking to the diet.
I find their denial fascinating, and helpful for addressing my own.
I’ve seen several episodes where people are hospitalized, for complications usually, put on a restricted diet, lose a lot of weight, released from the hospital, put the weight back on. Deny to Dr Now that they were not sticking to the diet. Denial runs rampant. It would be helpful to know what a typical day of eating was for them. How much they had to be eating to get to such a high weight. Going from, however many calories, to a limit of the 1200 calories Dr Now puts them on.
I never kept track of calories until MFP. To get an idea I logged a typical day of what I might eat, before I started counting calories. It wasn’t anywhere near 10,000 calories. Really, how much can a normal stomach hold, without becoming painfully uncomfortable.
Along those lines, "Secret Eaters" is an interesting British TV show to watch. You can find a bunch of episodes on Youtube. The shows start by profiling people who have "tried everything" to lose weight and don't understand how they can be as big as they are because they are absolutely certain that they don't eat enough to be that size.
Then private investigators secretly follow them around for a week and log everything, and at the end of the week they are shown what they are actually eating. It's always way more than they think, like literally 2-3x as much.7 -
missysippy930 wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »missysippy930 wrote: »Very interesting topic OP.
Makes me wonder about how many calories the people on “My 600 Pound Life” consumed daily to get to 600 pounds. I would think it would have to be almost non stop eating all day when they are awake.
10,000 calories is an awful lot of food.
Not positive, but guessing I’ve never eaten that much in one day. So, I guess it’s consistently, overeating, not a one day binge, where the pounds add on.
Yes, it is interesting to watch “My 600 Pound Life” patients lie to Dr. Now and themselves about how much they are eating. There was one woman in this current season who was hospitalized for a few months and lost about 100 pounds on a controlled diet. Then she went home and in her mind she was still eating 1200 calories, but at her next weigh in she had gained. So she had to be eating at least quadruple what she was eating in the hospital, but she kept saying she was sticking to the diet.
I find their denial fascinating, and helpful for addressing my own.
I’ve seen several episodes where people are hospitalized, for complications usually, put on a restricted diet, lose a lot of weight, released from the hospital, put the weight back on. Deny to Dr Now that they were not sticking to the diet. Denial runs rampant. It would be helpful to know what a typical day of eating was for them. How much they had to be eating to get to such a high weight. Going from, however many calories, to a limit of the 1200 calories Dr Now puts them on.
I never kept track of calories until MFP. To get an idea I logged a typical day of what I might eat, before I started counting calories. It wasn’t anywhere near 10,000 calories. Really, how much can a normal stomach hold, without becoming painfully uncomfortable.
To comprehend gaining and gaining up to 600 pounds, to be eating that much regularly... not sure I can. I ate a whole large pizza once and thought I was going to die. Friggin BED. Anyway.
Rather than seeing what those people ate at 600 pounds, it'd be interesting to see the change in what and how much they ate over time. And if location had any influence. I put on a ton when we moved next door to three fast food places and two pizza places. The temptation every day is awful.0 -
missysippy930 wrote: »Very interesting topic OP.
Makes me wonder about how many calories the people on “My 600 Pound Life” consumed daily to get to 600 pounds. I would think it would have to be almost non stop eating all day when they are awake.
10,000 calories is an awful lot of food.
Not positive, but guessing I’ve never eaten that much in one day. So, I guess it’s consistently, overeating, not a one day binge, where the pounds add on.
I think to maintain a 600lb weight someone's maintenance would be around 5000 calories0 -
missysippy930 wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »missysippy930 wrote: »Very interesting topic OP.
Makes me wonder about how many calories the people on “My 600 Pound Life” consumed daily to get to 600 pounds. I would think it would have to be almost non stop eating all day when they are awake.
10,000 calories is an awful lot of food.
Not positive, but guessing I’ve never eaten that much in one day. So, I guess it’s consistently, overeating, not a one day binge, where the pounds add on.
Yes, it is interesting to watch “My 600 Pound Life” patients lie to Dr. Now and themselves about how much they are eating. There was one woman in this current season who was hospitalized for a few months and lost about 100 pounds on a controlled diet. Then she went home and in her mind she was still eating 1200 calories, but at her next weigh in she had gained. So she had to be eating at least quadruple what she was eating in the hospital, but she kept saying she was sticking to the diet.
I find their denial fascinating, and helpful for addressing my own.
I’ve seen several episodes where people are hospitalized, for complications usually, put on a restricted diet, lose a lot of weight, released from the hospital, put the weight back on. Deny to Dr Now that they were not sticking to the diet. Denial runs rampant. It would be helpful to know what a typical day of eating was for them. How much they had to be eating to get to such a high weight. Going from, however many calories, to a limit of the 1200 calories Dr Now puts them on.
I never kept track of calories until MFP. To get an idea I logged a typical day of what I might eat, before I started counting calories. It wasn’t anywhere near 10,000 calories. Really, how much can a normal stomach hold, without becoming painfully uncomfortable.
To comprehend gaining and gaining up to 600 pounds, to be eating that much regularly... not sure I can. I ate a whole large pizza once and thought I was going to die. Friggin BED. Anyway.
Rather than seeing what those people ate at 600 pounds, it'd be interesting to see the change in what and how much they ate over time. And if location had any influence. I put on a ton when we moved next door to three fast food places and two pizza places. The temptation every day is awful.
They are supposed to eat a 1200 calorie, low carb, low fat, high protein diet. I've seen a lot of chicken and vegetables.
When I lived in upstate New York we had amazing takeout in our little town, but weight was not an issue for me at that time because I didn't get takeout all the time, and was a full time yoga teacher with a part time restaurant job, and I walked a lot.2
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