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I cannot sleep, no matter what I do...

nickdavis888nickdavis888 Posts: 21Member, Premium Member Posts: 21Member, Premium Member
I’ve tried the morning gym routine before I work a 10 hour day, and I work construction so it’s intense physical labour and it’s also mentally labouring as well, but when it comes to bed time I cannot sleep, so I tried going after work to the gym and going until I can’t move and coming home but as soon as I lay down, I’m wide awake again, any suggestions? I’ve tried most of the over the counter sleep enhancing products with no results :(
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  • corinasue1143corinasue1143 Posts: 1,346Member Member Posts: 1,346Member Member
    I wish I knew. I would suggest a longer nighttime routine. 20 minutes of quiet, boring music and reading— a book or magazine, not electronic device just before bed. I really don’t know if it will help or not, but if it does, it will take a couple f weeks at least.
  • nickdavis888nickdavis888 Posts: 21Member, Premium Member Posts: 21Member, Premium Member
    I’ve tried just about everything, I’m getting to the point I want to go to my doctor about prescription sleeping aids, but I don’t want to become dependant on something like that and have insomnia wreak havoc in my life constantly
  • corinasue1143corinasue1143 Posts: 1,346Member Member Posts: 1,346Member Member
    Have you tried chamomile tea?
  • nickdavis888nickdavis888 Posts: 21Member, Premium Member Posts: 21Member, Premium Member
    I have actually tried a variety of teas actually, although now I have an addiction to trying different teas, it hasn’t aided in any results for me, I can always get to that point where my eyes are just about shut, but I struggle to reach that point of sleep! It’s getting very frustrating
  • chefmichellemoorechefmichellemoore Posts: 1Member Member Posts: 1Member Member
    Do you drink energy drinks, or coffee? Sometimes this can make us stay awake. Even some regular pain medications like ibuprofen may have caffeine in it. However I can never sleep either but maybe you just are worrying and thinking to much about it??
  • grimendalegrimendale Posts: 2,031Member Member Posts: 2,031Member Member
    Go to your doctor. I've struggled with insomnia for years, and for me, the combination of melatonin, guided falling asleep meditation on the Stop, Breathe, Think app, and prescription sleep meds are the only thing that help. Ambien worked for a while, and when it stopped being effective, my doctor switched me to Belsomra, which has been working great. I wouldn't be overly worried about dependency on sleep meds. If used correctly and under medical supervision, they're a lifesaver.
  • giancarlov1191giancarlov1191 Posts: 45Member Member Posts: 45Member Member
    SUPPOSEDLY magnesium can help, plus it aids with digestion.
  • BrookeMorteBrookeMorte Posts: 3Member Member Posts: 3Member Member
    Have you tried a meditation app? That, plus melatonin and a white noise machine is what works for me
  • RuatineRuatine Posts: 3,353Member Member Posts: 3,353Member Member
    If you're in a position to do so, go see a doctor and get a sleep study done.
  • dmanakhodmanakho Posts: 141Member, Premium Member Posts: 141Member, Premium Member
    Try to take melatonin supplement before bed time. It can help
  • shaf238shaf238 Posts: 2,156Member Member Posts: 2,156Member Member
    I’ve tried just about everything, I’m getting to the point I want to go to my doctor about prescription sleeping aids, but I don’t want to become dependant on something like that and have insomnia wreak havoc in my life constantly
    Then I'm not sure what other meaningful advice anyone here can try and give you other than go and see a doctor.
  • Freedom1862Freedom1862 Posts: 16Member Member Posts: 16Member Member
    Are you eating tons of protein at every meal? I was and i didnt sleep for about a year. Doctors found nothing wrong in their tests.

    I truly hope this gets better for you and I wish you well.
  • JeBeBuJeBeBu Posts: 89Member Member Posts: 89Member Member
    I find a cold gel eye mask makes my brain "hush" and I fall asleep faster
  • cqbkajucqbkaju Posts: 1,009Member Member Posts: 1,009Member Member
    I have had insomnia since I was about 12, long story.
    Here are some free tips:

    1. OTC Melatonin might help but you will need to dial your dosage in and figure out when best to take it.
    You cannot just get a bottle of it at Wally World, pop a pill just before bed, and expect it to solve your problem.
    It doesn't work like that, literally or figuratively.

    2. FORCE yourself to get up EARLY, for example 30 - 60 minutes before you need to, no matter how tired you still feel.
    No more hitting the snooze button, EVER.
    This is the biggest mistake people make, insomnia or not. You cannot "catch up on sleep" like that in a practical sense.
    You are just reinforcing your bad sleeping habits by hitting the snooze button or whatever
    This applies to about everyone on the planet in fact. "Sleeping in" on a Saturday occasionally might be ok but not on a Sunday, i.e. before a work day.

    3. Get a sleep study done. What some are calling "insomnia" may be the result of sleep apnea or something.

    4. No power naps or anything like that. Goes with the Snooze thing. If you can't sleep you probably aren't tired enough.

    5. Zero caffeine or stimulants after noon, or maybe even none at all.

    6. If you lay down for bed and feel wide awake after 5 or 10 minutes then get up OUT OF BED and go do something for 30 minutes or and hour and try again.
    Rinse and repeat. Do not lie in bed without sleeping or ..whatever. Bad sleep hygiene.

    7. Do not watch TV or futz on your phone/laptop/tablet in bed. Same thing. The bed is for bed stuff.

    8. Put blackout curtains in your bedroom. Keep it as dark in there as practical.

    9. There are some promising non-addictive Rx on the horizon but they are not available to the public yet

    10. Avoid spiking cortisol after noon as much as you can, and/or take steps to lower it.
    edited June 14
  • cqbkajucqbkaju Posts: 1,009Member Member Posts: 1,009Member Member
    Are you eating tons of protein at every meal? I was and i didnt sleep for about a year. Doctors found nothing wrong in their tests.

    I truly hope this gets better for you and I wish you well.

    You would literally be dead if this was true.
    Correlation does not imply causation.
    I have never heard of anything about protein negatively affecting sleep quality/quantity and I hang around with powerlifters, bodybuilders, MMA fighters, and guys who run sleep labs.

    You start to hallucinate in under 2 weeks.
    Systems start to shut down in about 10 or 12 days.
    Speech begins to slur in about 72 hours and conversations become difficult.
    The longest documented case of total lack of sleep in a person was around 6 months, then death.

    Studies on this are incomplete because it requires volunteers and could be unethical.

    Most people end up having "microsleep events" after only 2 days.
    They fall asleep for up to 30 seconds and may not even know they were sleeping.

    Someone was telling me and a buddy who runs a sleep clinic how she *never* sleeps.
    We both looked at each other and may have said something like "That is hard to believe", IIRC.
    About 15 minutes later I started to say something to her and she was sleeping - with her eyes open.
    edited June 14
  • Freedom1862Freedom1862 Posts: 16Member Member Posts: 16Member Member
    cqbkaju wrote: »
    Are you eating tons of protein at every meal? I was and i didnt sleep for about a year. Doctors found nothing wrong in their tests.

    I truly hope this gets better for you and I wish you well.

    You would literally be dead if this was true.
    Correlation does not imply causation.
    I have never heard of anything about protein negatively affecting sleep quality/quantity and I hang around with powerlifters, bodybuilders, MMA fighters, and guys who run sleep labs.

    You start to hallucinate in under 2 weeks.
    Systems start to shut down in about 10 or 12 days.
    Speech begins to slur in about 72 hours and conversations become difficult.
    The longest documented case of total lack of sleep in a person was around 6 months, then death.

    Studies on this are incomplete because it requires volunteers and could be unethical.

    Most people end up having "microsleep events" after only 2 days.
    They fall asleep for up to 30 seconds and may not even know they were sleeping.

    Someone was telling me and a buddy who runs a sleep clinic how she *never* sleeps.
    We both looked at each other and may have said something like "That is hard to believe", IIRC.
    About 15 minutes later I started to say something to her and she was sleeping - with her eyes open.

    I couldnt find any reports on it either. I had zero answers, as did the multitude of doctors i went to. I am only speaking from my experience. I hardly chime in on these boards and this is why. Thanks for the woo.
  • LyndaBSSLyndaBSS Posts: 552Member Member Posts: 552Member Member
    Have you tried reading before bed or shutting your brain down in another way, like meditation.
  • try2againtry2again Posts: 3,318Member Member Posts: 3,318Member Member
    cqbkaju wrote: »

    5. Zero caffeine or stimulants after noon, or maybe even none at all.

    I liked a lot of the tips from this poster, but this was the one that immediately came to my mind. I discovered by accident that if I indulge in any caffeinated drinks after 1 or 2, it will interfere with my sleep. And being a hard-working, thirsty construction worker, I bet some caffeinated drinks are involved in the OP's day. ;)
    edited June 14
  • cqbkajucqbkaju Posts: 1,009Member Member Posts: 1,009Member Member
    I couldnt find any reports on it either. I had zero answers, as did the multitude of doctors i went to. I am only speaking from my experience. I hardly chime in on these boards and this is why. Thanks for the woo.

    FWIW, the "woo" wasn't from me.
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