Nike ad using plus size mannequins

sammidelvecchio

Mexicangreensalsa wrote: »

It is actually dangerous to dive when obese. https://www.scubadiving.com/training/ask-expert/are-you-too-fat-dive

That article is fairly outdated, and I would say that obese people with other health conditions - yes, diving could be dangerous. But an otherwise healthy person who is overweight or obese - I've seen no first hand evidence of that. I know many divers who have a high BMI and have no complications. On the other hand, my brother in law is 5'11 150 lbs and had a lot of problems diving. And Rob Stewart, RIP, was a perfectly normal BMI and died of complications due to depth.

Also, I was getting into a cage to see great white sharks. That is called diving with great whites, but it isn't SCUBA diving, which I believe is more what that article is referencing.

Also, in my online shopping I found many more sizes available for men. Including ranging into what would be considered and obese BMI. It was just for women I had trouble finding them.

Lastly, SCUBA can be dangerous for anyone. Even if you are not overweight or obese, if you are in poor health or very out of shape, it can lead to accidents and injury.

AnnPT77

Mexicangreensalsa wrote: »

sammidelvecchio wrote: »

@AnnPT77 I had to buy a wetsuit last year and it was one of the worst shopping experiences in my life. I did it all online, but it made me feel so awful about myself that I couldn't find one that would fit me. I searched for days. I eventually came across a brand that makes suits for triathalons, and their biggest size for women went up to 220 lbs. At the time I was 240, but this was the best I could find so I gave it a try and it fit. But its like c'mon world, now plus size people don't go diving? Jeezus.

It is actually dangerous to dive when obese. https://www.scubadiving.com/training/ask-expert/are-you-too-fat-dive

But the actual article under that headline says it's not so much about weight per se as about health issues or underfitness that often correlate with obesity. I can't speak for Sammi, but at the time I was wetsuit shopping (as an obese woman), I was also competing in a short-endurance cardio sport, and training for it regularly. While I wasn't trying to dive, I think I would've been fit enough for it to be lower risk . . . fitter than the majority of US women my age at the time, fat or thin, I'd say.

MikePTY

Mexicangreensalsa wrote: »

sammidelvecchio wrote: »

@AnnPT77 I had to buy a wetsuit last year and it was one of the worst shopping experiences in my life. I did it all online, but it made me feel so awful about myself that I couldn't find one that would fit me. I searched for days. I eventually came across a brand that makes suits for triathalons, and their biggest size for women went up to 220 lbs. At the time I was 240, but this was the best I could find so I gave it a try and it fit. But its like c'mon world, now plus size people don't go diving? Jeezus.

It is actually dangerous to dive when obese. https://www.scubadiving.com/training/ask-expert/are-you-too-fat-dive

This is a big oversimplification. Diving is a physical activity, and divers are supposed to be in good enough physical shape that diving is not strenuous. But this is not the same as saying that obese people shouldn't dive. The article was quite a bit misleading in quoting the percentage of dive deaths for people who were obese vs a normal weight, without acknowledging that there are more obese people than normal weight people. When adjusting for that, there is still a correlation, but it's not nearly as jarring.

At some point, a high enough weight probably makes diving unsafe for someone. But it's not as simple as just saying "obese"

avalonblues

I don't think Nike is promoting obesity here. I think they are promoting their clothing to people who are bigger than traditionally sized mannequins. Fit people are not going to see this mannequin and suddenly start drinking sodas, eating donuts and pizza and dropping the gym membership. At least, I think they aren't.

GaleHawkins

Nike is just trying to sell their products and the obese market is not one to bypass.

nooboots

sammidelvecchio wrote: »

@AnnPT77 I had to buy a wetsuit last year and it was one of the worst shopping experiences in my life. I did it all online, but it made me feel so awful about myself that I couldn't find one that would fit me. I searched for days. I eventually came across a brand that makes suits for triathalons, and their biggest size for women went up to 220 lbs. At the time I was 240, but this was the best I could find so I gave it a try and it fit. But its like c'mon world, now plus size people don't go diving? Jeezus.

Ah this is one of my goals for when Im around 220ish next year hopefully, that I can get a wetsuit. I still wont be able to fit into one in the UK though and anticipate that I have to order from america. I will have to get one in 2 parts.