The sugar free problem

babybleisz84

I remember quitting diet soda because fake sugar is bad. It’s seems like I replaced the his with sugar free iced. Coffee so I had a smaller coffee today with regular sugar. Trying to wean myself off again to see if this helps the hunger issue. Anyone else with this experience?

ccrdragon

babybleisz84 wrote: »

I remember quitting diet soda because fake sugar is bad. It’s seems like I replaced the his with sugar free iced. Coffee so I had a smaller coffee today with regular sugar. Trying to wean myself off again to see if this helps the hunger issue. Anyone else with this experience?

Fake sugar isn't bad (regardless of what the 'gurus' say). Fake sugars are the most studied and tested food additives/products available on the market today.

That being said, if sugar is a trigger for you (i.e. makes you have cravings/want to eat more), then you can wean yourself off the sugar by cutting back a little bit each day/week until you either reach a level were you do not experience the cravings or you have cut it out entirely. That is how I reached the point of drinking black coffee every day instead of a little coffee with sugar and lots of cream.

babybleisz84

Thank you! It’s definitely a journey figuring out how your body reacts to different foods.

tlpina82

I Posted some stuff about Non Nutritional Sweeteners and was treated here like a pariah, so this time, i will let Harvard Health and the American Heart Association do the talking.

Harvard:
https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/artificial-sweeteners-sugar-free-but-at-what-cost-201207165030

American Heart Association
https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/full/10.1161/CIR.0b013e31825c42ee

Hopefully, those can help you decide if it's worth it for you.

kimny72

tlpina82 wrote: »

I Posted some stuff about Non Nutritional Sweeteners and was treated here like a pariah, so this time, i will let Harvard Health and the American Heart Association do the talking.

Harvard:
https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/artificial-sweeteners-sugar-free-but-at-what-cost-201207165030

American Heart Association
https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/full/10.1161/CIR.0b013e31825c42ee

Hopefully, those can help you decide if it's worth it for you.

So the AHA says that artificial sweeteners are safe and can help, but only if the end result is that you are in a calorie deficit.

The first one is a blog post from a "former editor" of the Harvard Health Blog that reports the AHA's support of artificial sweeteners, but then throws in a lot of "maybe's/it's possible's/could be's/may's" and "I found this one little study that might show there could be some danger we can't prove yet" to make it seem controversial.

So I'm still feeling good about my daily can of Coke Zero :drinker:

cwolfman13

tlpina82 wrote: »

I Posted some stuff about Non Nutritional Sweeteners and was treated here like a pariah, so this time, i will let Harvard Health and the American Heart Association do the talking.

Harvard:
https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/artificial-sweeteners-sugar-free-but-at-what-cost-201207165030

American Heart Association
https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/full/10.1161/CIR.0b013e31825c42ee

Hopefully, those can help you decide if it's worth it for you.

I'm not seeing anything in here that says that artificial sweeteners are dangerous.

Emmapatterson1729

tlpina82 wrote: »

I Posted some stuff about Non Nutritional Sweeteners and was treated here like a pariah, so this time, i will let Harvard Health and the American Heart Association do the talking.

Harvard:
https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/artificial-sweeteners-sugar-free-but-at-what-cost-201207165030

American Heart Association
https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/full/10.1161/CIR.0b013e31825c42ee

Hopefully, those can help you decide if it's worth it for you.

Same... Years ago, Harvard Medical research had their results open to the public, along with other research teams. The results were terrible for aspartame. Also taught in nutrition course, it is one of the most toxic substances you can put in your body. Now that the FDA is run by Monsanto and is completely corrupt, those trials and results are gone. I can no longer find them.

Recently, I've started researching into the results other countries are finding, and of course, results not good.

I personally won't touch aspartame, saccharin, or sucralose.

lemurcat2

Diet soda is fine.

That said, I prefer sugar free iced coffee (i.e., iced coffee, black), so I drink more of that for my caffeine fix.

amckholmes

I eat low carb, so the flavored creamers are not good for me. I now use heavy cream, which has a slight sweetness to it naturally, and can do away with the flavored creamers. Depending on your way of eating, it may be sn option for you

AnnPT77

https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1308408/why-aspartame-isnt-scary

babybleisz84

Thanks everyone I’ll have to check out theses links

ro175

My first post..... I have been eating sugar-free gum and mints to try and curb my sweet toothe, but I just checked the calories in them and with the stupid amount I have been eating, I have been adding about 200 useless calories into my daily intake. No wonder I am plateauing

Lillymoo01

ro175 wrote: »

My first post..... I have been eating sugar-free gum and mints to try and curb my sweet toothe, but I just checked the calories in them and with the stupid amount I have been eating, I have been adding about 200 useless calories into my daily intake. No wonder I am plateauing

What sugar-free gum contains that many calories? Psst .... if you chew a piece of gum for at least 1/2 hour you will burn as much in the chewing action as you will consume via the gum - assuming it is sugar-free of course.
https://www.theactivetimes.com/fitness/10-no-effort-ways-burn-calories

ExistingFish

Aspartame is one of the most studied food additive substances in the US and the European Union. No conclusive evidence has been found to link it to any ill health effects.

You know what is proven, time and time again, to be bad for my health? Being overweight.

Diet soda helps me maintain a healthy weight. I'll keep my diet soda.

J72FIT

ExistingFish wrote: »

Aspartame is one of the most studied food additive substances in the US and the European Union. No conclusive evidence has been found to link it to any ill health effects.

You know what is proven, time and time again, to be bad for my health? Being overweight.

Diet soda helps me maintain a healthy weight. I'll keep my diet soda.

Amazing to me how often this gets overlooked...

ExistingFish

I think the public disdain for artificial sweeteners is because the "If it's too good to be true, it probably is" idea. Sweeteners taste sweet, with no calorie consequences? Must be evil, must be bad, must be a catch.

I had a coworker make a comment to another coworker about how he "shouldn't drink that poison" as he opened a diet Mt. Dew (I was drinking a Coke Zero across the table). The first coworker was overweight, talking to a healthy weight guy just trying to enjoy an afternoon caffeine boost. I asked her what was actually wrong with it, and she just kind of stammered that everyone knows artificial sweeteners are bad.

I didn't point out that her weight was unhealthy, but....

cheryldumais

I have wondered about sweetner safety myself but I like what @ExistingFish says; being overweight is for sure bad for me. I also find myself wondering about the quantities of sweetner used in studies. If we used sugar in the same amounts what would the results be? Too much of anything isn't necessarily good for you but in reasonable amounts it's probably safe.

J72FIT

ExistingFish wrote: »

I think the public disdain for artificial sweeteners is because the "If it's too good to be true, it probably is" idea. Sweeteners taste sweet, with no calorie consequences? Must be evil, must be bad, must be a catch.

I had a coworker make a comment to another coworker about how he "shouldn't drink that poison" as he opened a diet Mt. Dew (I was drinking a Coke Zero across the table). The first coworker was overweight, talking to a healthy weight guy just trying to enjoy an afternoon caffeine boost. I asked her what was actually wrong with it, and she just kind of stammered that everyone knows artificial sweeteners are bad.

I didn't point out that her weight was unhealthy, but....

I think people in general want/need something to blame. It takes the place of personal responsibility...

WinoGelato

Emmapatterson1729 wrote: »

tlpina82 wrote: »

I Posted some stuff about Non Nutritional Sweeteners and was treated here like a pariah, so this time, i will let Harvard Health and the American Heart Association do the talking.

Harvard:
https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/artificial-sweeteners-sugar-free-but-at-what-cost-201207165030

American Heart Association
https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/full/10.1161/CIR.0b013e31825c42ee

Hopefully, those can help you decide if it's worth it for you.

Same... Years ago, Harvard Medical research had their results open to the public, along with other research teams. The results were terrible for aspartame. Also taught in nutrition course, it is one of the most toxic substances you can put in your body. Now that the FDA is run by Monsanto and is completely corrupt, those trials and results are gone. I can no longer find them.

Recently, I've started researching into the results other countries are finding, and of course, results not good.

I personally won't touch aspartame, saccharin, or sucralose.

The FDA is run by Monsanto? That’s weird I must have missed that press release . I saw the one where Bayer purchased Monsanto... or maybe you’re getting information from fear mongering watchdog sites like FoodBabe?

NovusDies

While I do not like the taste of anything I have tried I do think that if someone's attempt at weight loss/management is made easier by alternative sweeteners that should not be dissuaded by anything less than hard facts. There is no reason to risk obesity and the problems it can bring because of internet conspiracy theories.

NovusDies

NovusDies wrote: »

While I do not like the taste of anything I have tried I do think that if someone's attempt at weight loss/management is made easier by alternative sweeteners that should not be dissuaded by anything less than hard facts. There is no reason to risk obesity and the problems it can bring because of internet conspiracy theories.

Oh and I realize that giving up drinks with AS in them should not be enough to disrupt a person's weight loss. However, considering how how fragile success is among those that try I think anything that greases the wheels is a good thing.