Apple Cider Vinegar for weight loss

Azdak

WinoGelato wrote: »

BarbaraHelen2013 wrote: »

Annoying isn’t it!

It mystifies me why the MFP blog publishes such drivel!

Best guess - to keep the forums active! 😉

I was so disappointing when I saw that on my home feed and also wondered when someone would use it as a “reference” in the forums. Guess I didn’t have to wait long!

Also disappointed to see there was no mention of using ACV for pulled pork or addressing fruit fly issues in that blog.

The voracious need for "content" by companies/orgs etc trying to attract an audience means that too many sites push "filler" stuff that is not being vetted.

I work for a large healthcare corporation--one of the largest in Illinois. It's embarrassing to read the crap they publish in their daily "health emails". They are just subscribing to some content service and marketing pushes it out without ever actually reading it. I sometimes get funny looks from members when I tell them that the article that my employer just published is complete nonsense. Luckily most of them know me pretty well as a bit of a contrarian and also know I am a credible source.

Annie_01

whmscll wrote: »

Tried ACV to help me lose weight a few years ago. It did nothing but make me gag at the taste.

I would never get past the smell!

AnnPT77

sugaraddict4321 wrote: »

A reminder to anyone who wishes to try ACV - you should not be drinking it straight or with just a few tablespoons of water. It can be damaging to the esophagus and stomach.

Always mix with a full glass of water. If you're using in a salad dressing or barbecue sauce that's different because you'll mix with other ingredients (often including oil), and eat with food.

The blog shows differing viewpoints about the supposed "benefits" of ACV - it is not promoting it outright.

ACV at the standard commercial 5% acidity has a pH of 3.3 to 3.5, which is very acidic. (Some other vinegars have a different pH because, as I understand it, various types have varied types of acid, all mostly acetic acid, but not entirely acetic acid in all types. Different acids have different pHs.) Any dilution will reduce the acidity.

Some things that have a lower (more acidic) Ph, according to American Dental Association research:

Gatorade Lemon-Lime (2.97)
Vitamin Water Connect Black Cherry Lime (2.96)
Ocean Spray Cran-Pomegranate (2.72) s
Kool-Aid Grape (2.83)
7-Up Cherry (2.98)
Dr. Pepper (2.88)
5-Hour Energy Berry (2.81)
Arizona Iced Tea (2.85)

The above are just a small number of selections from quite-long lists of what the ADA considers corrosive beverages; there are many others at similar pH.

I'm not arguing that ACV is good for weight loss (see my earlier post on this thread), nor am I suggesting that ACV is not corrosive, or is totally benign/safe to drink, undiluted or otherwise. What I am trying to do is put it in perspective. On these threads, we often see warnings about the dangers of ACV, as if it were uniquely dangerous among commonly consumed drinks. I don't see a sound basis for believing that to be true.

Cite for the ADA research:

https://www.ada.org/en/~/media/ADA/Public Programs/Files/JADA_The pH of beverages in the United States

(NOTE: Unfortunately, the URL may not appear correctly as a link for all viewers because of the embedded blanks. You may need to cut'n'paste it into your browser if you want to read the American Dental Association article about acidity of common beverages.).

Terytha

So I have a bowl of ACV on the table, and it's about 30% full of flies. I was jokingly asking what the weight loss benefits of flied ACV is, so husband looked it up.

According to MFP, half a swarm of fruit flies is only 5 calories and has 1 gram of protein.

I'm taking suggestions for a name for my new fat burning diet drink. I'm gonna make millions!

snickerscharlie

Terytha wrote: »

So I have a bowl of ACV on the table, and it's about 30% full of flies. I was jokingly asking what the weight loss benefits of flied ACV is, so husband looked it up.

According to MFP, half a swarm of fruit flies is only 5 calories and has 1 gram of protein.

I'm taking suggestions for a name for my new fat burning diet drink. I'm gonna make millions!

Don't know about the name, but the tagline should be, "Watch as the weight flies off!"

magnusthenerd

l4a_p wrote: »

mmapags wrote: »

l4a_p wrote: »

While I agree with most statements that weight loss is about calories, there have been mildly successful studies I've encountered that suggest ACV can help. This is because it keeps your insuline level lower, and without insuline you can't store fat. So it doesn't hurt, but don't expect anything magical. I usually drink a bit in water when I know I'll be having a very high carb (= raise insuline levels) meal later.

Please post these studies. Also, your understanding of insulin and fat storage is not accurate at all. Over time, you store or burn fat based on you calorie intake and whether in a surplus or deficit. The role of insulin is to shuttle nutrients into your cells.

https://blog.myfitnesspal.com/?p=40581

Did you mean to link to this:
https://blog.myfitnesspal.com/experts-debate-is-apple-cider-vinegar-a-health-and-weight-loss-fix/
Because while it has this line:

In an animal study, vinegar was shown to improve beta cell function in the pancreas of diabetic rats for a more sufficient insulin response and reduced blood sugar.

That is a quote in a blog about a study, not an actual study.

And improving beta cell health to alter insulin response is nothing at all like lowering your insulin level.
And while a less common physiological processes, there are indeed pathways that cause cells to take up fatty acids that are insulin independent.

CSARdiver

My firm manufactures and markets acetic acid and so needs to monitor the safety profile of all products containing acetic acid, including ACV. The problem with these products is the range of acetic acid in ACV varies greatly, so ingesting this without other foods is a potential hazard - a very low hazard when used as intended, but when used for woo, such as weight loss can lead to serious harm.

You lose weight by establishing a caloric deficit. You solidify this by modifying your behavior over time.

alexandravictoria88

Does it not have any other benefits? Ive read that it does not help with weightloss however curbs hunger, helps with bloating and is good for your skin. Am i right lol?

WinoGelato

alexandravictoria88 wrote: »

Does it not have any other benefits? Ive read that it does not help with weightloss however curbs hunger, helps with bloating and is good for your skin. Am i right lol?

Not in any reproducible or significant ways. It’s an overly marketed snake oil that people are led to believe have myriad benefits that don’t actually exist.

Some people have posted in this thread and countless others some useful home applications (namely recipes and fruit fly riddance).

Save yourself the trouble and the terrible taste. Wouldn’t you rather eat a nutrient dense, satiating diet and drink plenty of water to help with hunger, bloating and your skin?

earlnabby

alexandravictoria88 wrote: »

Does it not have any other benefits? Ive read that it does not help with weightloss however curbs hunger, helps with bloating and is good for your skin. Am i right lol?

Nope, although it CAN help the skin a little if applied directly on things like skin tags and warts which are then covered with a bandage. It slowly burns them off. Most prefer the quick burn at a dermatologist's office.

snickerscharlie

CSARdiver wrote: »

My firm manufactures and markets acetic acid and so needs to monitor the safety profile of all products containing acetic acid, including ACV. The problem with these products is the range of acetic acid in ACV varies greatly, so ingesting this without other foods is a potential hazard - a very low hazard when used as intended, but when used for woo, such as weight loss can lead to serious harm.

You lose weight by establishing a caloric deficit. You solidify this by modifying your behavior over time.

This. Which is often exacerbated because desperate people can easily fall into a more-is-better mindset, especially since it's touted as an 'all-natural' product. So if one shot of ACV is supposedly beneficial, a double shot is bloody likely to be miraculous.