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Your friend will make her October 11 appointment on time so as to help me save a good ~50 hours of travel time and >$4k in plane tickets which I will otherwise have to invest in in order to make sure that she does!!!!! 🙀7
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janeypoosandbob wrote: »janeypoosandbob wrote: »janeypoosandbob wrote: »I know the OP, her account was closed down by MFP.
She's going to see the mental health team after her father's visit ends. She's gained 3lbs since he arrived 12 days ago.
Those 3lbs (+ a bit more) are gone now.
She'd been growing her hair for 2.5 years after losing it all through chemo. It grew back curly and really thick but over the last 6 months it was falling out at an alarming rate. She had it all cut off last week, down to a pixie crop, because it was so thin. That was a bit of a wake-up call for her. She's really trying to maintain or gain but it's a struggle for her.
VLCDs are NOT a good idea especially if you already have abad relationship with weight/food.
I really wish I had see this thread sooner. Can you please share this link with her? While professional help is crucial in over coming eating disorders so is support from people who don’t judge and understand. EDA saved my life. There are online meetings she can attend from anywhere to connect with others trying to recover from eating disorders, some with many years in recovery. http://eatingdisordersanonymous.org/online-meetings/
That's a great link @SCoil123, I've passed it on to her. Thank you 🤗
She's still really struggling but has made an appointment for 11th October with the mental health team. Hopefully she'll keep this one 🤞
Can you forcibly go with her? I think she really needs someone in person to make sure that she’s keeping this appointment. Because it’s so easy to keep cancelling appointments.2 -
janeypoosandbob wrote: »janeypoosandbob wrote: »janeypoosandbob wrote: »I know the OP, her account was closed down by MFP.
She's going to see the mental health team after her father's visit ends. She's gained 3lbs since he arrived 12 days ago.
Those 3lbs (+ a bit more) are gone now.
She'd been growing her hair for 2.5 years after losing it all through chemo. It grew back curly and really thick but over the last 6 months it was falling out at an alarming rate. She had it all cut off last week, down to a pixie crop, because it was so thin. That was a bit of a wake-up call for her. She's really trying to maintain or gain but it's a struggle for her.
VLCDs are NOT a good idea especially if you already have abad relationship with weight/food.
I really wish I had see this thread sooner. Can you please share this link with her? While professional help is crucial in over coming eating disorders so is support from people who don’t judge and understand. EDA saved my life. There are online meetings she can attend from anywhere to connect with others trying to recover from eating disorders, some with many years in recovery. http://eatingdisordersanonymous.org/online-meetings/
That's a great link @SCoil123, I've passed it on to her. Thank you 🤗
She's still really struggling but has made an appointment for 11th October with the mental health team. Hopefully she'll keep this one 🤞
If you message me I can give you my email for her too. I have 6yr behavior free from my disorder. It’s hard but possible with counseling and support. I’d be happy to share my story in a more private setting and what I’ve learned along the way about recovery.10 -
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collectingblues wrote: »janeypoosandbob wrote: »janeypoosandbob wrote: »janeypoosandbob wrote: »I know the OP, her account was closed down by MFP.
She's going to see the mental health team after her father's visit ends. She's gained 3lbs since he arrived 12 days ago.
Those 3lbs (+ a bit more) are gone now.
She'd been growing her hair for 2.5 years after losing it all through chemo. It grew back curly and really thick but over the last 6 months it was falling out at an alarming rate. She had it all cut off last week, down to a pixie crop, because it was so thin. That was a bit of a wake-up call for her. She's really trying to maintain or gain but it's a struggle for her.
VLCDs are NOT a good idea especially if you already have abad relationship with weight/food.
I really wish I had see this thread sooner. Can you please share this link with her? While professional help is crucial in over coming eating disorders so is support from people who don’t judge and understand. EDA saved my life. There are online meetings she can attend from anywhere to connect with others trying to recover from eating disorders, some with many years in recovery. http://eatingdisordersanonymous.org/online-meetings/
That's a great link @SCoil123, I've passed it on to her. Thank you 🤗
She's still really struggling but has made an appointment for 11th October with the mental health team. Hopefully she'll keep this one 🤞
Can you forcibly go with her? I think she really needs someone in person to make sure that she’s keeping this appointment. Because it’s so easy to keep cancelling appointments.
Unfortunately not. We live on opposite sides of the country but her husband will be going with her. Providing that she doesn't cancel again 😤2 -
janeypoosandbob wrote: »janeypoosandbob wrote: »janeypoosandbob wrote: »I know the OP, her account was closed down by MFP.
She's going to see the mental health team after her father's visit ends. She's gained 3lbs since he arrived 12 days ago.
Those 3lbs (+ a bit more) are gone now.
She'd been growing her hair for 2.5 years after losing it all through chemo. It grew back curly and really thick but over the last 6 months it was falling out at an alarming rate. She had it all cut off last week, down to a pixie crop, because it was so thin. That was a bit of a wake-up call for her. She's really trying to maintain or gain but it's a struggle for her.
VLCDs are NOT a good idea especially if you already have abad relationship with weight/food.
I really wish I had see this thread sooner. Can you please share this link with her? While professional help is crucial in over coming eating disorders so is support from people who don’t judge and understand. EDA saved my life. There are online meetings she can attend from anywhere to connect with others trying to recover from eating disorders, some with many years in recovery. http://eatingdisordersanonymous.org/online-meetings/
That's a great link @SCoil123, I've passed it on to her. Thank you 🤗
She's still really struggling but has made an appointment for 11th October with the mental health team. Hopefully she'll keep this one 🤞
If you message me I can give you my email for her too. I have 6yr behavior free from my disorder. It’s hard but possible with counseling and support. I’d be happy to share my story in a more private setting and what I’ve learned along the way about recovery.
I'll PM you now 👍0 -
janeypoosandbob wrote: »janeypoosandbob wrote: »janeypoosandbob wrote: »janeypoosandbob wrote: »I know the OP, her account was closed down by MFP.
She's going to see the mental health team after her father's visit ends. She's gained 3lbs since he arrived 12 days ago.
Those 3lbs (+ a bit more) are gone now.
She'd been growing her hair for 2.5 years after losing it all through chemo. It grew back curly and really thick but over the last 6 months it was falling out at an alarming rate. She had it all cut off last week, down to a pixie crop, because it was so thin. That was a bit of a wake-up call for her. She's really trying to maintain or gain but it's a struggle for her.
VLCDs are NOT a good idea especially if you already have abad relationship with weight/food.
I really wish I had see this thread sooner. Can you please share this link with her? While professional help is crucial in over coming eating disorders so is support from people who don’t judge and understand. EDA saved my life. There are online meetings she can attend from anywhere to connect with others trying to recover from eating disorders, some with many years in recovery. http://eatingdisordersanonymous.org/online-meetings/
That's a great link @SCoil123, I've passed it on to her. Thank you 🤗
She's still really struggling but has made an appointment for 11th October with the mental health team. Hopefully she'll keep this one 🤞
If you message me I can give you my email for her too. I have 6yr behavior free from my disorder. It’s hard but possible with counseling and support. I’d be happy to share my story in a more private setting and what I’ve learned along the way about recovery.
I'll PM you now 👍
FYI, sometimes PMs do not go through unless people are "friends" first, so if you don't hear back from her, trying friending her.3 -
kshama2001 wrote: »janeypoosandbob wrote: »janeypoosandbob wrote: »janeypoosandbob wrote: »janeypoosandbob wrote: »I know the OP, her account was closed down by MFP.
She's going to see the mental health team after her father's visit ends. She's gained 3lbs since he arrived 12 days ago.
Those 3lbs (+ a bit more) are gone now.
She'd been growing her hair for 2.5 years after losing it all through chemo. It grew back curly and really thick but over the last 6 months it was falling out at an alarming rate. She had it all cut off last week, down to a pixie crop, because it was so thin. That was a bit of a wake-up call for her. She's really trying to maintain or gain but it's a struggle for her.
VLCDs are NOT a good idea especially if you already have abad relationship with weight/food.
I really wish I had see this thread sooner. Can you please share this link with her? While professional help is crucial in over coming eating disorders so is support from people who don’t judge and understand. EDA saved my life. There are online meetings she can attend from anywhere to connect with others trying to recover from eating disorders, some with many years in recovery. http://eatingdisordersanonymous.org/online-meetings/
That's a great link @SCoil123, I've passed it on to her. Thank you 🤗
She's still really struggling but has made an appointment for 11th October with the mental health team. Hopefully she'll keep this one 🤞
If you message me I can give you my email for her too. I have 6yr behavior free from my disorder. It’s hard but possible with counseling and support. I’d be happy to share my story in a more private setting and what I’ve learned along the way about recovery.
I'll PM you now 👍
FYI, sometimes PMs do not go through unless people are "friends" first, so if you don't hear back from her, trying friending her.
I didn’t get a message so I sent a friend request. I also clicked the OPs account and it appears active again so I sent her one as well.4 -
kshama2001 wrote: »janeypoosandbob wrote: »janeypoosandbob wrote: »janeypoosandbob wrote: »janeypoosandbob wrote: »I know the OP, her account was closed down by MFP.
She's going to see the mental health team after her father's visit ends. She's gained 3lbs since he arrived 12 days ago.
Those 3lbs (+ a bit more) are gone now.
She'd been growing her hair for 2.5 years after losing it all through chemo. It grew back curly and really thick but over the last 6 months it was falling out at an alarming rate. She had it all cut off last week, down to a pixie crop, because it was so thin. That was a bit of a wake-up call for her. She's really trying to maintain or gain but it's a struggle for her.
VLCDs are NOT a good idea especially if you already have abad relationship with weight/food.
I really wish I had see this thread sooner. Can you please share this link with her? While professional help is crucial in over coming eating disorders so is support from people who don’t judge and understand. EDA saved my life. There are online meetings she can attend from anywhere to connect with others trying to recover from eating disorders, some with many years in recovery. http://eatingdisordersanonymous.org/online-meetings/
That's a great link @SCoil123, I've passed it on to her. Thank you 🤗
She's still really struggling but has made an appointment for 11th October with the mental health team. Hopefully she'll keep this one 🤞
If you message me I can give you my email for her too. I have 6yr behavior free from my disorder. It’s hard but possible with counseling and support. I’d be happy to share my story in a more private setting and what I’ve learned along the way about recovery.
I'll PM you now 👍
FYI, sometimes PMs do not go through unless people are "friends" first, so if you don't hear back from her, trying friending her.
I didn’t get a message so I sent a friend request. I also clicked the OPs account and it appears active again so I sent her one as well.
I just told her to look, her account is still restricted/blocked. Probably a good thing 🤔 I've accepted your friend request, thank you 😊0 -
Arggggghhhh!!! 🤯
She's just told me that her husband's work shift has changed which means that he can't go to the hospital with her (he'll be working 8am-4pm so it's not possible to get to the hospital during clinic hours) so she cancelled the appointment 🤬😵🤬1 -
janeypoosandbob wrote: »Arggggghhhh!!! 🤯
She's just told me that her husband's work shift has changed which means that he can't go to the hospital with her (he'll be working 8am-4pm so it's not possible to get to the hospital during clinic hours) so she cancelled the appointment 🤬😵🤬
Just so you know... that's part of the nature of the beast of the disorder. Unless someone physically walks her there -- even without an appointment -- she's going to keep cancelling. Anorexia is an egosyntonic disorder, which means to *her*, this feels OK, even with all of the health side effects. She's not going to go to an appointment on her own, because the disorder is telling her that losing weight feels good, and getting help is bad.
Someone needs to take her phone, and needs to literally walk her to the hospital/the emergency room, and not leave until she's admitted. She's emaciated, and at this rate, she's going to kill herself.12 -
collectingblues wrote: »janeypoosandbob wrote: »Arggggghhhh!!! 🤯
She's just told me that her husband's work shift has changed which means that he can't go to the hospital with her (he'll be working 8am-4pm so it's not possible to get to the hospital during clinic hours) so she cancelled the appointment 🤬😵🤬
Just so you know... that's part of the nature of the beast of the disorder. Unless someone physically walks her there -- even without an appointment -- she's going to keep cancelling. Anorexia is an egosyntonic disorder, which means to *her*, this feels OK, even with all of the health side effects. She's not going to go to an appointment on her own, because the disorder is telling her that losing weight feels good, and getting help is bad.
Someone needs to take her phone, and needs to literally walk her to the hospital/the emergency room, and not leave until she's admitted. She's emaciated, and at this rate, she's going to kill herself.
Reminds me of when my housemate needed to go to detox. Her sister gave her a choice: "You can drive with me, or I am calling an ambulance and they will take you and you will get billed for that."
My housemate tried to delay ("I need to take a shower, I need this, I need that"), but her sister, who had been through this before, held firm and we got her into detox.12 -
Hi, I just heard from the OP and she asked me to post another update.
She had an appointment with the hospital MH team on Monday. Unfortunately there is no specialist ED help in her province so the psychiatrist gave her a couple of doctors names who do specialise - 1 is in İstanbul and the other is in Izmir, both too far away for her to go to as an outpatient (if that were an option) and she outright refuses to be admitted anywhere, near or far, as an inpatient.
So, a compromise was reached; she'll start a mix of fluoxetine and another drug (she couldn't remember the name). Apparently this combination is widely used in the US to treat anorexia. She'll give it a try for a month or so and then reassess.
She went for blood and unrine tests today and is waiting for a cardiology appointment.
She'll update again once the results are back.11 -
Thanks for the update!
Has she been giving more consideration to returning to the UK where there are more treatment options? Does she have supportive family in the UK?4 -
Thanks for letting us know2
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I am still on the extremely concerned side of things as, by the looks of it, drug based treatments are considered a support as opposed to main method of treating this (apparent) type of ed.
Supportive thoughts and wishes are getting transmitted!4 -
The solution for treating anorexia (which it sounds like this is) is to gain weight. Bottom line. There is no medication that will treat the underlying problem and medications are really only to support someone with regaining weight. The best success in the treatment of eating disorders like this are to regain a normal BMI, and it sounds like she really needs to be inpatient to help her do that.
When you have such severe caloric restriction--it may even be dangerous to increase back to a normal calorie intake without monitoring (with labs) because it can so drastically effect your electrolytes because of referring syndrome.
This kind of sustained very low-calorie diet in someone who is already malnourished with low BMI is very, very dangerous.
Anorexia is a deadly disease and is among the most serious mental health conditions with the highest mortality rates because of this.
Does her husband recognize the severity of her disease? Could her dad come back? It sounds like she needs to have all her family/friends mobilize to support her getting into formal treatment, even if that means she has to go back to access NHS services.4 -
Divadoctor wrote: »The solution for treating anorexia (which it sounds like this is) is to gain weight. Bottom line. There is no medication that will treat the underlying problem and medications are really only to support someone with regaining weight. The best success in the treatment of eating disorders like this are to regain a normal BMI, and it sounds like she really needs to be inpatient to help her do that.
When you have such severe caloric restriction--it may even be dangerous to increase back to a normal calorie intake without monitoring (with labs) because it can so drastically effect your electrolytes because of referring syndrome.
This kind of sustained very low-calorie diet in someone who is already malnourished with low BMI is very, very dangerous.
Anorexia is a deadly disease and is among the most serious mental health conditions with the highest mortality rates because of this.
Does her husband recognize the severity of her disease? Could her dad come back? It sounds like she needs to have all her family/friends mobilize to support her getting into formal treatment, even if that means she has to go back to access NHS services.
Actually, the best way to treat an eating disorder is to treat what is causing it in the first place. It isn't as simple as eating more when there are various factors for not eating enough in the first place. Anorexia is complex but a combination of genetics, psychological factors and cultural influences can all come into play. Medication can be of help for much more than with physically regaining weight. It, combined with therapy, can also be of assistance to any other psychological factor which comes into play.8 -
In the uk the NICE treatment protocol for anorexia is some weight gain first. Therapy as well. And also medication in some cases. All monitored closely by a multidisciplinary treatment team.
OP obviously won’t get this in turkey. But maybe just maybe she will feel a bit better on the meds and this may lead to her rethinking her plans and getting the full treatment package by returning to the uk5 -
+1 on weight restoration **in conjunction with other interventions**
Weight restoration appears to independently produce some positive changes to brain chemistry, similarly to how the previous caloric restriction produced negative ones.3
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