Can u eat unlimited fat as long as u hit your calorie goal?
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joowelz
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Can you eat unlimited animal fat as long as you hit your daily calorie goal - and lose weight?
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Yes.6
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You can but it's advisable to eat a balanced diet.16
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Fat is 9 calories per gram.
Carbs and protein are 4 calories per gram.
However you choose to match those up to meet your calorie allowance is totally up to you.4 -
You can but it's advisable to eat a balanced diet.
For sure.... i'm just amazed that i can eat this much fatty animal protein (i.e. cheese and dark meat chicken) and still lose weight. I grew up believing one must limit their fat grams, but I am finding satiety with a higher protein/fat diet than with a high fiber/low fat diet and it's exciting. This one tweak has been life changing.19 -
Yes.
But if you eat so much saturated fat that you don't get enough protein, fiber, and micronutrients, you're at risk of long-term ill health. In particular - if weight is all that matters - your energy level might suffer in the long run, leading you to move less in daily exercise (and to reduce exercise intensity, if you exercise). Less activity means lower calorie burn; lower calorie burn means slower weight loss. Might be minor, if lucky.
Stay healthy: It's good for making the very best weight loss progress, as well as for looking your best and feeling your best.16 -
You can but it's advisable to eat a balanced diet.
For sure.... i'm just amazed that i can eat this much fatty animal protein (i.e. cheese and dark meat chicken) and still lose weight. I grew up believing one must limit their fat grams, but I am finding satiety with a higher protein/fat diet than with a high fiber/low fat diet and it's exciting. This one tweak has been life changing.
Yeah, dietary fat doesn't make you fat...consuming energy (calories) in excess of what your body requires results in body fat storage...ie stored energy.
That said, I have a lot of questions in regards to long term health eating tons of fat. I know keto blogs and resources say it's perfectly fine, but call me a skeptic. Dietary fat is definitely necessary for good health...but I really question whether eating a diet consisting of mostly fat and little else is healthy long term.16 -
your Dr wouldn't advise it along with cardiologists everywhere, that is for sure! The Keto craze right now is going to harm a lot of people if they stay with it.14
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nighthawk584 wrote: »your Dr wouldn't advise it along with cardiologists everywhere, that is for sure! The Keto craze right now is going to harm a lot of people if they stay with it.
One of my aunts did keto for epilepsy since childhood. It at least provided for a quality of life that she would not have otherwise had...but she had a massive heart attack when she was 52 and passed.16 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »nighthawk584 wrote: »your Dr wouldn't advise it along with cardiologists everywhere, that is for sure! The Keto craze right now is going to harm a lot of people if they stay with it.
One of my aunts did keto for epilepsy since childhood. It at least provided for a quality of life that she would not have otherwise had...but she had a massive heart attack when she was 52 and passed.
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You can but it's advisable to eat a balanced diet.
For sure.... i'm just amazed that i can eat this much fatty animal protein (i.e. cheese and dark meat chicken) and still lose weight. I grew up believing one must limit their fat grams, but I am finding satiety with a higher protein/fat diet than with a high fiber/low fat diet and it's exciting. This one tweak has been life changing.
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It's great when learning how things actually work makes a big difference in your life.2 -
So I am admittedly biased because I have a more traditional view of nutrition and I believe that in the short term it doesn't matter but for prolonged periods of time it is not something I would feel comfortable doing.
I think the wildcard is genetics and the same dietary choices that are fine for one person are not so great for the next. Even knowing your family history may not be a great predictor of results because not that long ago getting the cause of death accurate was kind of hit or miss. Also, knowing the breakdown of their food is less likely and the amount of physical activity plays an important role too.
With that said we do know that carrying excess weight is problematic for health. We don't necessarily know what dietary fat will do to you. If large amounts of fat aids in your weight loss then the lessening the known risk instead of the possible risk gets the nudge in my opinion.
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cwolfman13 wrote: »nighthawk584 wrote: »your Dr wouldn't advise it along with cardiologists everywhere, that is for sure! The Keto craze right now is going to harm a lot of people if they stay with it.
One of my aunts did keto for epilepsy since childhood. It at least provided for a quality of life that she would not have otherwise had...but she had a massive heart attack when she was 52 and passed.
And that's the thing: keto was developed as a medical diet for very specific applications like your aunt. Americans have this problem where they think if a little is good, more is better, and if something is good for one person, it must be good for all people.
You couldn't pay me to do keto. I love bread and pasta too much. A balanced diet kept under calorie restriction is the most sustainable way to lose weight and keep it off. We evolved as omnivores for a lot of really good reasons, so I figure it's best to respect that.20 -
For thousands of years, people have known that eating vegetables and other healthy stuff is good, and gorging on animal fat is bad. That was before they'd even discovered the "calorie".
I'm absolutely mystified how so many people could've suddenly jumped on the keto bandwagon and decided that a 70 % fat diet could possibly be good for you, and I'd hate to be one of the guinea pigs stuffing fat in my mouth all day and hoping that it all works out OK in the end. Because it probably won't.
Any cardiologist would say to take it easy on the animal / saturated fat. There's more going on with health than just weight loss, even if weight loss is for the moment the most important thing. By the time those other things become important, it'll be too late to fix them if you've spent your whole life eating a diet high in saturated fat. So be sensible - eat what you enjoy, in a balanced way.9 -
Have you had your cholesterol checked lately? Just to be safe.3
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Well.... yes you could. I was speaking to a researcher. They told me keto was pretty safe, but there is SOME question about insulin sensitivity issues long term. Jury is still out.0
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psychod787 wrote: »Well.... yes you could. I was speaking to a researcher. They told me keto was pretty safe, but there is SOME question about insulin sensitivity issues long term. Jury is still out.
It seems unwise to adopt a diet for which the "jury is still out" when all you have to do is eat balanced meals and stay in a calorie deficit to lose weight.
I fear a lot of otherwise very sensible, smart people are putting themselves in harm's way for nothing. The human body was not designed to live off 70 % fat.2 -
Just want to clarify... my total daily fat grams are under 70 g and usually much less than 60 g. I don't think i am gorging on fat, let alone animal fat. I don't eat mammals first of all, and my cheese choices are mostly low fat. My default has always been to eat too little protein, so upping my cheese, indulging in dark meat chicken and adding nuts some evenings has been a big deal for me.
In terms of other fats, my go-to is olive or sesame oil. Butter is a special treat.
Agree that it would be wise to get cholesterol checked after a few months of increasing animal fat in one's diet.7 -
Just want to clarify... my total daily fat grams are under 70 g and usually much less than 60 g. I don't think i am gorging on fat, let alone animal fat. I don't eat mammals first of all, and my cheese choices are mostly low fat. My default has always been to eat too little protein, so upping my cheese, indulging in dark meat chicken and adding nuts some evenings has been a big deal for me.
In terms of other fats, my go-to is olive or sesame oil. Butter is a special treat.
Agree that it would be wise to get cholesterol checked after a few months of increasing animal fat in one's diet.
Depending on your height and weight, eating "much less than than 60 g" on a regular basis could have you at risk of being fat deficient in your diet. Your body needs fat.2 -
Just want to clarify... my total daily fat grams are under 70 g and usually much less than 60 g. I don't think i am gorging on fat, let alone animal fat. I don't eat mammals first of all, and my cheese choices are mostly low fat. My default has always been to eat too little protein, so upping my cheese, indulging in dark meat chicken and adding nuts some evenings has been a big deal for me.
In terms of other fats, my go-to is olive or sesame oil. Butter is a special treat.
Agree that it would be wise to get cholesterol checked after a few months of increasing animal fat in one's diet.
You say you don't eat mammals but what do you think chicken is?3 -
Just want to clarify... my total daily fat grams are under 70 g and usually much less than 60 g. I don't think i am gorging on fat, let alone animal fat. I don't eat mammals first of all, and my cheese choices are mostly low fat. My default has always been to eat too little protein, so upping my cheese, indulging in dark meat chicken and adding nuts some evenings has been a big deal for me.
In terms of other fats, my go-to is olive or sesame oil. Butter is a special treat.
Agree that it would be wise to get cholesterol checked after a few months of increasing animal fat in one's diet.
You say you don't eat mammals but what do you think chicken is?
Birds are not mammals. Just so you know. LOL13
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