Game changers on Netflix

Psychgrrl

I know what’s not often performance enhancing—eating a plant-based diet when you’re anemic.

Supplements don’t make enough of a difference for me and they wreak havoc with my stomach when I tried to up them to make up the difference. Plant sources aren’t readily absorbed for me.

I eat 16 oz. of red meat per week with a source of vitamin C (helps absorption).

I do eat my veggies and fruits (locally grown and in season as much as possible) and enjoy “meat substitutes.” But nothing keeps my iron levels barely into the normal range like red meat (and the iron supplements).

My concern is that folks process that type of “info” as absolute fact and make decisions that impact their body and health without fully being informed about how it might affect them. To me, being nutrient deficient is akin to being calorie deficient. You feel great until you don’t, and then it’s a long, uphill climb to get back to “normal.”

psychod787

magnusthenerd wrote: »

I dropped off about 10 minutes in. I found it weird that they were bringing up a weird research study on Roman gladiator bones, and how it showed the gladiators had a rather vegetarian diet. The implication was that these gladiators were on this diet because it was somehow performance enhancing, rather than the idea that gladiators were slaves. I felt like I didn't have trust in how they were drawing conclusions at that point.

What they fail to state is that most gladiators were not even roman. Then they fail to state that only the wealthy age large amounts of meat. The grain stipend is what fed the masses.

MikePTY

I did not feel the need to watch the movie to comment on it. I just read this article instead: https://www.menshealth.com/nutrition/a29067926/the-game-changers-movie-fact-check/. Everything can have an agenda, even that article, but it seemed to be a pretty good rebuttal of the documentary's main points.

Look when it comes to plant based lifestyles, I think there are two points that are largely valid and science based:
1. People should eat more fruits and vegetables and would be healthier if they did.
2. Reducing meat consumption is a psotiive thing from an environmental and sustainability perspective.

But both those things can still be true without needing to make meat out to be evil or try to spin limited studies into making grandiose statements, which this documentary seems to do. It's not even the best way to accomplish the agenda of trying to promote plant based eating.

There are always going to be a limited number of people who do fu plant based/veg. There are a larger number of people who are looking to I coproate more plant based eating and moderate their meat consumption. I am one of those. I think the part of the plant based movement that takes an all or nothing approach rather than incrementalism is shooting itself in the foot.

NorthCascades

cwolfman13 wrote: »

I'm pretty leery of any "documentary", particularly if it's related to nutrition, politics, or religion. In my experience, most have an agenda and data and information is cherry picked to suit that agenda. You can usually find another "documentary" that is the polar opposite of the other and sounds just as convincing.

Oh come on, I've learned so much from documentaries. Like the only appropriate volume is 11.

vm007

Lol I just saw it on netflix and first place I came to ask about it was here.

I think another thing most people's brain (like mine back in the day) ended up doing was- someone looks jacked and is lifting copious amounts of weight -ergo that diet is the magic diet. One major factor for their physical looks and performance could be those "cycles" of things they inject.