I am hungry, like real painful hunger
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psychod787 wrote: »cmriverside wrote: »psychod787 wrote: »here is an easy experiment I have done. Cook up 3 lbs of plain steamed, slightly crispy broccoli. No salt, no butter, nothing.... if you eat it, then you are hungry, if not, your most likely not.....cmriverside wrote: »I've been at my goal weight/in Maintenance for many years. To stop nighttime eating I had to start eating breakfast later and going to bed soon after dinner. Two largish meals and a midday snack is the way I deal with it. No snacking. Logging every bite.
One thing that helps me is to stay away from wheat unless it's served with lots of protein and some fat. Wheat seems to trigger my hunger/appetite in a way that no other food does. I can easily overeat by several hundred calories of wheat products and still want more. You may have some trigger foods too. Start noticing what you've eaten and how it makes you feel.
The trick for me is to know how much food I actually need, then telling myself, "You're good. You've eaten the right amount of food today." If I feel a compulsion to eat, then I've likely missed some important nutrient - usually not enough protein.
Is that whole grains or flour products?
Wheat...do you eat just plain whole wheat with no other ingredients and/or without it being processed into a flour?
Just wanted to Clarify. Many people when they say "wheat" they mean flour based products. I personally think bread is very calorie dense and offers little satiety to me. Interesting. Its just wheat? Not say, oats or barley?
Wheat. I don't want to hijack this thread any further.3 -
psychod787 wrote: »here is an easy experiment I have done. Cook up 3 lbs of plain steamed, slightly crispy broccoli. No salt, no butter, nothing.... if you eat it, then you are hungry, if not, your most likely not.....
Along those lines, when I was a kid and wanted a snack my mom used to say "If you are not hungry enough for an apple, you're not hungry."
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Closing thoughts..... OP, first you should open up your diary so people here such as @cmriverside , @kimnyc72 , and @fernt21 , all very smart gals, can make an evaluation of dietary choices. Next, post your stats. Activity, height, weight, age, sex, weight history...... then... maybe more can be added to help you. My suggestions are to increase intake of higher satiety foods, protein, fiber...ect. Limit "junk", I dont need a lecture on "good" and "bad" foods, I am completely aware.3
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kshama2001 wrote: »psychod787 wrote: »here is an easy experiment I have done. Cook up 3 lbs of plain steamed, slightly crispy broccoli. No salt, no butter, nothing.... if you eat it, then you are hungry, if not, your most likely not.....
Along those lines, when I was a kid and wanted a snack my mom used to say "If you are not hungry enough for an apple, you're not hungry."
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Fiber was very key for me on hunger. Protein was needed and some fats, but for me personally having enough fiber was what really made a difference in keeping me full between meals.3
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Here is something a wise person told me to distinguish real hunger from head hunger. When you get that I am starving feeling offer yourself some green beans. If it is not hunger you will be saying yuck if really hungry you eat them and get a lot of fiber that will make you feel full.
...and that sort of ‘wise’ advice is how it took me thirty years to realise that the starving hungry pangs I was feeling were, yes, head hunger.
Because I would totally eat pounds of raw broccoli. I would eat ANYTHING. I felt hungry, of COURSE I would eat anything!2 -
(Whereas when I am genuinely, physically hungry, I don't feel any actual hunger pangs, and so wouldn't eat pounds of broccoli. Instead I am picky and indecisive. Appetite does not work the same for everyone.)6
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kshama2001 wrote: »psychod787 wrote: »here is an easy experiment I have done. Cook up 3 lbs of plain steamed, slightly crispy broccoli. No salt, no butter, nothing.... if you eat it, then you are hungry, if not, your most likely not.....
Along those lines, when I was a kid and wanted a snack my mom used to say "If you are not hungry enough for an apple, you're not hungry."
My only problem with that is I'm just weird. I'm always "hungry" enough to eat an apple/broccoli/green beans/whatever else is presented as a less palatable option because I really like these foods and I enjoy the act of eating. The only way for me to tell if it's real hunger or just the desire to eat is that I know what real hunger feels like. Not helpful, I know. Yesterday I "binged" on grilled eggplant and zucchini although I wasn't hungry just because they taste good, then I went back to nibble on some fish. That took me over my desired calories, but oh well, it happens.
In my experience, the desire to eat didn't go away, I just got better at regulating it by telling myself if I eat now when I'm not hungry I won't have enough calories to eat when I'm hungry. There is also this kind of hunger that isn't satiated by food, it's hormonal and happens sometimes. I just got better at tolerating it since nothing helps except going way over calories and, usually, only fast food helps. OP have you had your hormones checked?7 -
Sorry about my "worms" comment...I usually keep a boiled egg in the fridge or a slice of cheese, sometimes I have some cottage cheese with herbs or with a spoon full of jam or marmalade. But always, always I have a big cup of tea first - just to make sure I am not "thirsty". Does not happen often - usually when we have a very early dinner.0
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Only nerds like me will probably listen to this... but I figured what the heck..
https://youtu.be/Mp2p4TdLn_81 -
At 8:00 pm every night I make a giant salad but chop everything up and make it really sense. Mixed greens, cucumber, onions, lots of tomatoes, strawberries, kiwi, with balsamic, cottage cheese or skinny girl salad dressing. Takes me an hour to eat it. It's delicious and fills me up. And after all that chewing I don't feel like eating anything else. If I run out of salad stuff I can't be trusted not to make oatmeal with buttercream frosting. Works for me but I'm half nuts..0
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Here is something a wise person told me to distinguish real hunger from head hunger. When you get that I am starving feeling offer yourself some green beans. If it is not hunger you will be saying yuck if really hungry you eat them and get a lot of fiber that will make you feel full.
I had to laugh at this. Canned green beans are great! You know how people can’t eat just one potato chip? Me and green beans. I’m probably the only person in the world who could gain weight eating only canned green beans. Lol.
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If you’re in real physical pain, you should eat. A fruit or vegetable is a healthy, lower calorie option that will fill you up. You could also try eating pickles, drinking tea, or drinking coffee (black), all of those have essentially 0 calories but make you feel fuller. Best of luck! Feel free to add me as a friend on here if you’d like.0
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corinasue1143 wrote: »Here is something a wise person told me to distinguish real hunger from head hunger. When you get that I am starving feeling offer yourself some green beans. If it is not hunger you will be saying yuck if really hungry you eat them and get a lot of fiber that will make you feel full.
I had to laugh at this. Canned green beans are great! You know how people can’t eat just one potato chip? Me and green beans. I’m probably the only person in the world who could gain weight eating only canned green beans. Lol.
Fine green beans, raw or lightly boiled, with maybe a tiny bit of roasted sesame oil. Or broccoli, raw with a little yoghurt or lightly fried with soy sauce. Could eat those things all day.1
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