Warrior/OMAD

mooshca7

Just dropping a line since I haven't seen any recent warrior/omad forums.

I just started and have lost 12 lbs in my first 3 weeks. Would be nice to talk to some warrior veterans who can offer some tips and wisdom. I've been intermittent fasting in the past and had success with it but want to up the intensity this time around.

Is adding keto to the mix overkill? Let me know what you think.

Muscleflex79

it is the calorie deficit that is making you lose - so you can be keto, paleo, 8 meals a day - whatever you want that keeps you in a deficit.

Sharon_C

Whatever works for you that you can do long term. Personally I couldn't do keto forever, but some people can.

cmriverside

Fairly active OMAD group here...there are some Intermittent Fasting groups too. Go to "Groups" and search.

Here's the OMAD one. https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/group/20634-omad-revolution

kshama2001

mooshca7 wrote: »

Just dropping a line since I haven't seen any recent warrior/omad forums.

I just started and have lost 12 lbs in my first 3 weeks. Would be nice to talk to some warrior veterans who can offer some tips and wisdom. I've been intermittent fasting in the past and had success with it but want to up the intensity this time around.

Is adding keto to the mix overkill? Let me know what you think.

If keto is a natural fit for you and you can make all your micronutrients fit into this one meal, go for it.

As others have said, keto (and OMAD) is not necessary for weight loss - only a calorie deficit is.

I would be concerned that too many rules is a slippery slope to Orthorexia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orthorexia_nervosa

..."A theory may be conventional or unconventional, extreme or lax, sensible or totally wacky, but, regardless of the details, followers of the theory do not necessarily have orthorexia. They are simply adherents of a dietary theory. The term 'orthorexia' only applies when an eating disorder develops around that theory."[8]

Bratman elsewhere clarifies that with a few exceptions, most common theories of healthy eating are followed safely by the majority of their adherents; however, "for some people, going down the path of a restrictive diet in search of health may escalate into dietary perfectionism." [9]

Karin Kratina, PhD, writing for the National Eating Disorders Association, summarizes this process as follows: "Eventually food choices become so restrictive, in both variety and calories, that health suffers – an ironic twist for a person so completely dedicated to healthy eating."[10]

kshama2001

mooshca7 wrote: »

Just dropping a line since I haven't seen any recent warrior/omad forums.

I just started and have lost 12 lbs in my first 3 weeks. Would be nice to talk to some warrior veterans who can offer some tips and wisdom. I've been intermittent fasting in the past and had success with it but want to up the intensity this time around.

Is adding keto to the mix overkill? Let me know what you think.

Also, depending on your current weight and goal weight, "upping the intensity" is not a good idea - it is likely time to slow your rate of loss.

heybales

Sounds like the OMAD method is helping you eat little enough to lose weight.
Doesn't sound like Keto is needed in that case.

Hope that's a reasonable rate for the amount to lose, like maybe 200 lbs to go.

If by "up the intensity" you mean lose even faster - then I'd look at the "this time around".

If that means you are doing a diet again - perhaps something sustainable to change your lifestyle would be better than only the goal of losing. And losing again. And again.

Talk to some people in older years that have spent most their lives yo-yo dieting and having a terrible relationship with their bodies and food and see if that is really the route you want to take - fast weight loss.

ellie117

Good for you for being able to stick to OMAD. I applaud your self control, as I would literally go insane if I only ate one time per day.

mooshca7

Thank you for all of the feedback. I appreciate the insight from people much more knowledgeable than me.

NovusDies

mooshca7 wrote: »

Just dropping a line since I haven't seen any recent warrior/omad forums.

I just started and have lost 12 lbs in my first 3 weeks. Would be nice to talk to some warrior veterans who can offer some tips and wisdom. I've been intermittent fasting in the past and had success with it but want to up the intensity this time around.

Is adding keto to the mix overkill? Let me know what you think.

If IF was successful what happened that you stopped doing it? What makes you think OMAD will not also be something you do for awhile with limited positive results and stop?

The only good plan is one you can stick to EASILY for the entire time you need to lose weight and perhaps adapt for a lifetime of maintaining your goal weight. It is not something that others can tell if it is right for you. You can certainly experiment with things you see that might be interesting but treat it like an experiment and walk away and find something better when you establish it is not going to work for you. By not working for you I do not mean that you don't lose weight. Lots of people lose some weight. Most people fail to lose all the weight they intend to lose. Working means that you can adhere to it easily. It is flexible enough to work for you everyday not just the easy days when nothing special is happening. It has to work for you on good days, bad days, holidays, business travel, recreation travel, family reunions, birthdays, business lunches or dinners, etc. Life doesn't stop because you choose to lose weight.

MikePTY

NovusDies wrote: »

mooshca7 wrote: »

Just dropping a line since I haven't seen any recent warrior/omad forums.

I just started and have lost 12 lbs in my first 3 weeks. Would be nice to talk to some warrior veterans who can offer some tips and wisdom. I've been intermittent fasting in the past and had success with it but want to up the intensity this time around.

Is adding keto to the mix overkill? Let me know what you think.

If IF was successful what happened that you stopped doing it? What makes you think OMAD will not also be something you do for awhile with limited positive results and stop?

The only good plan is one you can stick to EASILY for the entire time you need to lose weight and perhaps adapt for a lifetime of maintaining your goal weight. It is not something that others can tell if it is right for you. You can certainly experiment with things you see that might be interesting but treat it like an experiment and walk away and find something better when you establish it is not going to work for you. By not working for you I do not mean that you don't lose weight. Lots of people lose some weight. Most people fail to lose all the weight they intend to lose. Working means that you can adhere to it easily. It is flexible enough to work for you everyday not just the easy days when nothing special is happening. It has to work for you on good days, bad days, holidays, business travel, recreation travel, family reunions, birthdays, business lunches or dinners, etc. Life doesn't stop because you choose to lose weight.

This was pretty much my exact thoughts when reading it. I see a lot of posts here that start with "when I lost weight successfully in the past I..." and I question the definition of success. Losing some weight quick is pretty easy for most people if you are dedicated in the short term. But keeping it off is hard. Weight loss methods should be adaptable.

One *could* eat the warrior way their whole life, but I imagine that would be pretty difficult. Sure for 3 weeks it might be doable for some, but anything where you put severe restrictions on yourself is difficult. So if you lose weight doing it, how do you transition that to successful maintenance? What have you learned form the warrior way of eating that you can use to keep yourself in successful maintenance. It's not impossible to transition from a restrictive method to looser maintenance method, but it does raise the risk of failure.

So I think you should really evaluate if you think this way of eating is something you can do long term. Do you enjoy it? Do you find you are hungry a lot? Do you get enough nutrition from your one meal?

Weight loss is about calorie deficits. That can be done with a warrior diet, with keto, or with neither. So adding Keto if you are already finding your current way successful in doing that doesn't add anything except additional restrictions that could make it more difficult. It, like the warrior diet, doesn't have any special weight loss power beyond a calorie deficit.

mooshca7

Thank you for all the feedback. A little more info about myself... I followed intermittent fast in the past and lost 60 pounds in about 7 months.

I got married and think I was just caught up in that new transition that working out got put on the back burner; I gained 20 pounds back over 3 years. Now I want to continue losing weight and I knew that IF worked so I fell back into what I knew worked.

After reading all the great opinions above, I think I may seek out a health coach who may be able to give me some new ideas. I agree that the warrior diet is not something I would want to continue forever and that is something I never thought about. So thank you everyone!

kshama2001

mooshca7 wrote: »

Thank you for all the feedback. A little more info about myself... I followed intermittent fast in the past and lost 60 pounds in about 7 months.

I got married and think I was just caught up in that new transition that working out got put on the back burner; I gained 20 pounds back over 3 years. Now I want to continue losing weight and I knew that IF worked so I fell back into what I knew worked.

After reading all the great opinions above, I think I may seek out a health coach who may be able to give me some new ideas. I agree that the warrior diet is not something I would want to continue forever and that is something I never thought about. So thank you everyone!

You're OP says you've lost 12 pounds already - do you now only have 8 pounds to lose?

In that case, set your weekly weight loss goal for a half pound per week. You don't need a health coach as much as you need patience