Last diet ever - intermittent fasting

nabilondon82

This is my last diet if it doesn't work I will do surgery. I have been on diet for the past 30years. I'm trying the intermittent fasting but haven't lost as much as I could have.
I need help and support

missysippy930

How would surgery help? You still have to do the work. It’s not a miracle cure, and there’s always a risk with any surgery.

trailrunner64

@missysippy930 well said - and you can add if a person have surgery it is a very restrictive life style if someone decide to have it.
One of my suggestions I have for you @nabilondon82 would be to read Jason Fung's book "the obesity code" ( I know several public libraries who carries the book) - he and his partner Megan Ramos also have a lot of good informatin on Youtube. You will be more successful if you do your homework first.

A few additional things to think of
-don't view it as a diet - but as a lifestyle make over.
- look at food as medicine to get healthier

elisa123gal

You sound discouraged and that makes people do desperate things. We've all been on tons of diets. But, to be successful have to find a healthy eating plan that works for you.

I tried IF too...what you do is starve yourself for most the day and put up an eating window when you can eat..but the catch is. you still have to stick to your calories. It isn't like you can eat all you want during your eating window. so It pretty much sucks and screws with your metabolism.

I went did that...adkins..and even that cabbage soup diet before I really lost all my weight. I honestly believe those fad diets put extra weight on me.

I finally went to an all whole foods diet..no processed foods. I didn't count calories.. I eat six times a day..which all day long..I drink a lot of water.. and cut out sugar and salt. Who would have thought eating a healthy diet of all the vegetables and lean meats I want would work? It did and I feel great.


Don't give up or give in. you can take control.

cmriverside

Nothing wrong with Intermittent Fasting, it's kind of how most of the world eats anyway so do I most of the time. I'm not on a strict schedule but since I don't eat right away in the morning and I stop eating a couple hours before bed I just naturally do it.

But this is about quantity. I had to stay within my calorie limit to lose weight, full stop.

For me there was an emotional element too, so don't rule out a little therapy (which they would have you do prior to surgery anyway most likely.) Most of us turn to food when we aren't really hungry, so I had to wrestle with that.

Then I had to clean up my food choices. I still have a treat now and then but it's a Special Occasion thing, not daily. I don't have dessert every time I'm out, or every time I'm at someone's house. I don't have dessert foods in my house. I try to eat enough protein and fat and I eat at least five servings of fruit or vegetables daily. It doesn't have to be complicated but there has to be a loose food and nutrition plan of some sort.

I log my food. I step on the body weight scale regularly. I studied my FOOD page and made changes where I could. I take long walks. I lost 80ish pounds and have kept it off. It isn't easy but it's worth it.

nuttyfamily

"I tried IF too...what you do is starve yourself for most the day and put up an eating window when you can eat..but the catch is. you still have to stick to your calories. It isn't like you can eat all you want during your eating window. so It pretty much sucks and screws with your metabolism."
So much false information in that statement.


I agree with reading the Obesity Code by Fung and also Delay, Don't Deny by Gin Stephens. Fasting can and does work for many people. There are many other benefits when fasting besides losing weight.

Surgery is an option but like stated. I know of a couple of folks who have kept their weight off after the surgery but also know of a few who gained the weight back because you still have to do the work mentally and physically.

nighthawk584

I IF without actually doing IF. I start eating at 7 am and stop at 7 pm. Seriously, just eat a balanced diet, stay within your calorie deficit, and measure everything you put in your mouth with a food scale. Don't make it miserable on yourself.

purplebobkat

IF is awesome, it helps you lose the weight then helps you keep it off.

It's not for everyone, but if it does fit you it's a lifesaver.

My top tips are:
# read "the obesity code", as it's fascinating & explaines the science behind fasting.
# start slow, just push breakfast back an hour a day till your at lunch.
# choose an eating window that fits your life (I do 20/4 most of the time).
# Don't worry too much about calories, just try to eat a really balanced healthy diet within your eating window. (Be sensible though).
# avoid sweeteners (they can lower your blood sugar & make you crave sweet things)
# Feast & Fast. Enjoy the occasions (dates, weddings holidays etc), then fast during 'normal life.
#Try to think of it as a new lifestyle rather than a diet.

Good luck, and remember that everyone's rooting for you🤩

psychod787

purplebobkat wrote: »

IF is awesome, it helps you lose the weight then helps you keep it off.

It's not for everyone, but if it does fit you it's a lifesaver.

My top tips are:
# read "the obesity code", as it's fascinating & explaines the science behind fasting.
# start slow, just push breakfast back an hour a day till your at lunch.
# choose an eating window that fits your life (I do 20/4 most of the time).
# Don't worry too much about calories, just try to eat a really balanced healthy diet within your eating window. (Be sensible though).
# avoid sweeteners (they can lower your blood sugar & make you crave sweet things)
# Feast & Fast. Enjoy the occasions (dates, weddings holidays etc), then fast during 'normal life.
#Try to think of it as a new lifestyle rather than a diet.

Good luck, and remember that everyone's rooting for you🤩

Wow... not even going to respond to the bold...... Ill let someone else do it for me.....

purplebobkat

nabilondon82 wrote: »

This is my last diet if it doesn't work I will do surgery. I have been on diet for the past 30years. I'm trying the intermittent fasting but haven't lost as much as I could have.
I need help and support

The best diet is the one that works for you. It could be IF, or keto or whole30, or Any other diet or combination of diets.

How are you finding IF? What eating window are you doing? Do you find the fasting difficult?

Help & support is what this app should be for, so how can we help??

missysippy930

psychod787 wrote: »

purplebobkat wrote: »

IF is awesome, it helps you lose the weight then helps you keep it off.

It's not for everyone, but if it does fit you it's a lifesaver.

My top tips are:
# read "the obesity code", as it's fascinating & explaines the science behind fasting.
# start slow, just push breakfast back an hour a day till your at lunch.
# choose an eating window that fits your life (I do 20/4 most of the time).
# Don't worry too much about calories, just try to eat a really balanced healthy diet within your eating window. (Be sensible though).
# avoid sweeteners (they can lower your blood sugar & make you crave sweet things)
# Feast & Fast. Enjoy the occasions (dates, weddings holidays etc), then fast during 'normal life.
#Try to think of it as a new lifestyle rather than a diet.

Good luck, and remember that everyone's rooting for you🤩

Wow... not even going to respond to the bold...... Ill let someone else do it for me.....

I’ll bite.
@purplebobkat, calories is the thing you should worry most about. The only way weight is lost is by eating less calories than your body burns, no matter what plan you follow.

psychod787

trailrunner64 wrote: »

@missysippy930 well said - and you can add if a person have surgery it is a very restrictive life style if someone decide to have it.
One of my suggestions I have for you @nabilondon82 would be to read Jason Fung's book "the obesity code" ( I know several public libraries who carries the book) - he and his partner Megan Ramos also have a lot of good informatin on Youtube. You will be more successful if you do your homework first.

A few additional things to think of
-don't view it as a diet - but as a lifestyle make over.
- look at food as medicine to get healthier

Read it.... not what I would consider too accurate. If I were to suggest two books.....

1.The End of Overeating: Taking Control of the Insatiable American Appetite
Book by David A. Kessler <---- more basic
2.The Hungry Brain: Outsmarting the Instincts That Make Us Overeat
Book by Stephan J. Guyenet<---- a little more advanced.

Cheers....
Dalon

**edit** If you are interested in the reference and scientific accuracy of some health and nutrition books, check out https://www.redpenreviews.org

elisa123gal

nuttyfamily wrote: »

"I tried IF too...what you do is starve yourself for most the day and put up an eating window when you can eat..but the catch is. you still have to stick to your calories. It isn't like you can eat all you want during your eating window. so It pretty much sucks and screws with your metabolism."
So much false information in that statement.


I agree with reading the Obesity Code by Fung and also Delay, Don't Deny by Gin Stephens. Fasting can and does work for many people. There are many other benefits when fasting besides losing weight.

Surgery is an option but like stated. I know of a couple of folks who have kept their weight off after the surgery but also know of a few who gained the weight back because you still have to do the work mentally and physically.

Nope..,not a false statement.. very true.. I was on the IF group thread here on MFP and that was the consensus after being there for a while.. CICO..in a teeny tiny eating window.

88olds

Anyone who reads my posts on here knows I’m an advocate for food diary supported calorie counting. It works.

But it drives some people crazy.

So big picture, what are we trying to do? I think it’s learn to live, including eat, within some reasonable limits. But how?

Of course it’s true that no one will lose weight without a calorie deficit. But if your path to finding livable limits is IF, good for you.

Never quit. Good luck OP. Hope you’ve found something that works for you.

And agreeing with @nuttyfamily, of the few folks I’ve seen, 3 of 4 regained a lot.