Sleep advice?
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NewLIFEstyle4ME wrote: »{{{{{{{
HUGS }}}}}}}}}}
The replies you got are super terrific--so MANY wonderful responses. Here's a few more:
I can't emphasize enough how much a "good" pillow can help. You can't necessarily go by how expensive the pillow is though, because a lot of times spending more $$$$ on pillows don't help--even though they're expensive, that doesn't mean they will be comfortable or the best or keep their shape. One of the BEST pillows I've ever had didn't cost a lot. I found it at Marshall's and it is called "coolmax gel pillow" and it's utterly wonderful. I looked for the one's Marshall's has (or had) and couldn't find them for reviews for you--but there are reviews for "gel pillows" if you look on line. They were cheap too, I think about $14 to $20.00 dollars max I think. I couldn't find the one I got, but it's by the same people that recommended the "weighted-blanket" (I'd never heard of that, but was surprised to find the same company makes these gel pillows too).
Also, reading (especially Bible reading (even if you aren't "religious or christian or whatever, bible reading can/will make you sleepy as all get out, again, especially if you aren't really "into it" and sometimes even if you are
), but to/for people who aren't used to reading the bible, honey that will put you to sleep faster than you can say zzzzzzzzzzz...If you don't know where to start, start in Proverbs and The Psalms. The same thing with praying--when one puts/sets their hearts and minds on praying or begins to pray--BOOM, sleep/sleepiness comes on super FAST for some reason.
Lastly, this may sound "square or lame"...but wikihow is just wonderful. I've learned soooo much from wikihow, it's amazing. I looked it up and found an "article" on there called:
How to Cure Insomnia
https://www.wikihow.com/Cure-Insomnia
If you will, please read the entire thing/wikihow article (if you haven't already). There will be lots on there that you have heard or already knew...BUT, you will also find a LOT of ideas you haven't heard or thought of.
Thank you EVER so very much for taking the time to post here. Your post is going to hopefully not only help you--but TONS of others struggling/suffering with this issue too. {{{{{ HUGS again }}}}} Please know you are not alone and here's to your healing and wellness.
Along the lines of reading the Bible, I read myself to sleep and can look up things in Wikipedia from my Kindle, and sometimes that helps me get back to sleep faster. Recent topics have been the Dead Sea, Faberge eggs, and John the Baptist - out like a light!1 -
I’d also point out that Ambien is not the only choice for sleep meds. I go back and forth between hydroxyzine and tamazepam
Since Temazepam (Restoril) is a benzodiazepine, I don't take it regularly, but I do find it useful for nights when I can anticipate having what I call "sleep anxiety" - when it's crucial for me to get a good night's sleep due to unusual commitments the next day.1 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »Former Marine here...
I've found CBD oil to be very helpful. I also have a 25 Lb weighted blanket that has been really helpful.
Former Air Force here. I tried CBD and it didn't quite do it for me. I do find its stronger relative, which is legal where I live, quite effective.1 -
natalyax777 wrote: »Oh my god I love this app lol. Everyone thank you, super helpful advice!
Someone just saved me from a horrible fate with the dangers of melatonin post. I had no idea it could be harmful and I was popping pills like candy.
I do get treated for PTSD at the VA, but I refuse to take their antidepressants anymore. The antidepressants were very helpful with sleeping but unfortunately they were too helpful and what kind of life is it to sleep all day and feel groggy and lifeless when you’re awake? I must have tried 5 different types, I’m just over it.
I didn’t realize screens and phones affected sleep. I had only heard that they affect your vision. So that’s great advice that I’ll try. The ambien advice I’ll definitely be trying for emergencies. I stopped drinking coffee and tea after 2 pm years ago, but maybe I’ll just stick to one cup in the morning and cut myself off after that. I haven’t been working out since I got out of the service, just recently started when I realized I’ve gained 40 lbs since I got out. I always work out in the mornings, because it jumps your metabolism for the next 6 or so hours. So I’ll definitely make sure I don’t workout before bed and maybe exercising every day will help with sleeping at night. I have a comforter that I absolutely love, so I’m hesitant to try a weighted blanket but if none of this other stuff works I’ll give it a shot. I’ll try the mediation, and keep myself to a schedule, shut off electronics at least an hour before bed. So hopefully all these little tidbits of advice will work.
You guys rock! Thanks again.
I might have tried 5 anti-depressants before I discovered Wellbutrin. I take SR now. You're supposed to take 2 per day but I just take the AM dose so it won't affect my sleep.
I like it because it's a little speedy and this kicks in right when I'm thinking about exercising at lunch time.0 -
Sleep hygiene is good to practice.
And, though I know you won't be thrilled with this, see a therapist and start working on the PTSD. There are some new therapies out that actually work and can give you help in putting the memories where they belong. We don't have a problem seeing a pulmonologist for asthma or a urologist for frequent UTIs; psychotherapists specializing in PTSD are the people to take the symptoms you're having too, along with the ones you didn't mention.
My first husband had severe PTSD, and I know it's miserable to live with. Just because it's a wound to the psyche doesn't mean that it doesn't deserve treatment.3 -
kshama2001 wrote: »I’d also point out that Ambien is not the only choice for sleep meds. I go back and forth between hydroxyzine and tamazepam
Since Temazepam (Restoril) is a benzodiazepine, I don't take it regularly, but I do find it useful for nights when I can anticipate having what I call "sleep anxiety" - when it's crucial for me to get a good night's sleep due to unusual commitments the next day.
I’ve been really glad my doc and I were able to work the hydroxyzine into the mix. It’s an old school antihistamine, so has less risk of dependency. My seasonal depression has been brutal this year which has me up to nightly sleep meds for the last few months. Being able to back off the temazepam has made me much less concerned about addiction potential. The slight differences in timing and after effects make it easier to choose one based on the next day’s schedule and how long I have to sleep.
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kshama2001 wrote: »NewLIFEstyle4ME wrote: »{{{{{{{ HUGS }}}}}}}}}}
The replies you got are super terrific--so MANY wonderful responses. Here's a few more:
I can't emphasize enough how much a "good" pillow can help. You can't necessarily go by how expensive the pillow is though, because a lot of times spending more $$$$ on pillows don't help--even though they're expensive, that doesn't mean they will be comfortable or the best or keep their shape. One of the BEST pillows I've ever had didn't cost a lot. I found it at Marshall's and it is called "coolmax gel pillow" and it's utterly wonderful. I looked for the one's Marshall's has (or had) and couldn't find them for reviews for you--but there are reviews for "gel pillows" if you look on line. They were cheap too, I think about $14 to $20.00 dollars max I think. I couldn't find the one I got, but it's by the same people that recommended the "weighted-blanket" (I'd never heard of that, but was surprised to find the same company makes these gel pillows too).
Also, reading (especially Bible reading (even if you aren't "religious or christian or whatever, bible reading can/will make you sleepy as all get out, again, especially if you aren't really "into it" and sometimes even if you are ), but to/for people who aren't used to reading the bible, honey that will put you to sleep faster than you can say zzzzzzzzzzz...If you don't know where to start, start in Proverbs and The Psalms. The same thing with praying--when one puts/sets their hearts and minds on praying or begins to pray--BOOM, sleep/sleepiness comes on super FAST for some reason.
Lastly, this may sound "square or lame"...but wikihow is just wonderful. I've learned soooo much from wikihow, it's amazing. I looked it up and found an "article" on there called:
How to Cure Insomnia
https://www.wikihow.com/Cure-Insomnia
If you will, please read the entire thing/wikihow article (if you haven't already). There will be lots on there that you have heard or already knew...BUT, you will also find a LOT of ideas you haven't heard or thought of.
Thank you EVER so very much for taking the time to post here. Your post is going to hopefully not only help you--but TONS of others struggling/suffering with this issue too. {{{{{ HUGS again }}}}} Please know you are not alone and here's to your healing and wellness.
Along the lines of reading the Bible, I read myself to sleep and can look up things in Wikipedia from my Kindle, and sometimes that helps me get back to sleep faster. Recent topics have been the Dead Sea, Faberge eggs, and John the Baptist - out like a light!
How/what fabulously interesting (and potential "sleep" inducing) topics--"out like a light" indeed. Funny you should mention/study "Faberge eggs"--I just saw what reminded me of a Faberge egg in a shop the other day. I hadn't thought of one of those in many years. I've been studying/researching what daily life was like in the mid-early 19th and 20th centuries. How the "industrial revolution" and inventions like electricity in homes and businesses, cars/transporation, various household products (that we now take for granted and/or never think about) but was world/life changing back then, etc. (high technologies back then) drastically changed lives and times big time. Talk about "sleep inducing"...for sure, but incredibly interesting and absolutely fascinating way/subjects to help get your zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz on!
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In high school I would comically toss and turn, basically needing to completely remake my bed 2-3 times per week. Once I had a house of my own where I controlled the thermostat this stopped, keeping the room cool is critical for me to get quality sleep. I like it close to 60, though that's far more achievable in winter than summer, but if I do I basically wake up in the exact position in which I fell asleep.0
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I'm on the other end and could sleep through an artillery strike...and have.
When I was a kid my sensei taught us a trick to get to sleep. Think of your body and work from the bottom up "My toes are relaxed, my feet are relaxed, my ankles are relaxed..." similar to counting sheep it's a mindless repetitive exercise that puts your mind in a relaxed state.
The military sets us up to complete tasks, so incomplete tasks can be a great source of stress.
I make sure my family is taken care of and they are on a good path. I turn off electronics and pick up a book.
I setup a pre-sleep ritual and meditate over the day. I address what happened that day and what I need to do tomorrow. A mental exercise to put my mind at ease and make sure everything that needs to be done is done. The one thing that gives me stress is having an outstanding task and no plan on how to address it, so I minimize this as much as possible.
I brew up a cup of tea and relax, then go to bed.
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In high school I would comically toss and turn, basically needing to completely remake my bed 2-3 times per week. Once I had a house of my own where I controlled the thermostat this stopped, keeping the room cool is critical for me to get quality sleep. I like it close to 60, though that's far more achievable in winter than summer, but if I do I basically wake up in the exact position in which I fell asleep.
Before I got control of the thermostat I used to get a lot of nosebleeds in the winter, as well as being plagued by dry, itchy skin.
I too set the thermostat at 60 degrees at night in the winter. It's warmer than I like in the summer, but I also lose my weighted blanket and quilts.
Best sleep of my life was when I was winter camping and the temperature was in the teens. I'd wake in the same position, too.
Of course, I had specialized gear for this, but I do not understand how people who've lost weight (and don't have a medical condition) can't find clothing to keep them warm at 70 degrees if I can be warm sleeping outside in the teens. (I did make it down to 7 degrees, but that was a little too cold, even for me.)0 -
kshama2001 wrote: »In high school I would comically toss and turn, basically needing to completely remake my bed 2-3 times per week. Once I had a house of my own where I controlled the thermostat this stopped, keeping the room cool is critical for me to get quality sleep. I like it close to 60, though that's far more achievable in winter than summer, but if I do I basically wake up in the exact position in which I fell asleep.
Before I got control of the thermostat I used to get a lot of nosebleeds in the winter, as well as being plagued by dry, itchy skin.
I too set the thermostat at 60 degrees at night in the winter. It's warmer than I like in the summer, but I also lose my weighted blanket and quilts.
Best sleep of my life was when I was winter camping and the temperature was in the teens. I'd wake in the same position, too.
Of course, I had specialized gear for this, but I do not understand how people who've lost weight (and don't have a medical condition) can't find clothing to keep them warm at 70 degrees if I can be warm sleeping outside in the teens. (I did make it down to 7 degrees, but that was a little too cold, even for me.)
Same, I had one winter right after I'd lost 30 lbs in about 6-8 weeks (pre-MFP, back in high school). At 165-170 I was at a truly healthy weight for probably the first time and I froze that whole winter. My body adjust after that and I was, and still am hot more often than not.0 -
OP: Thank you for your service. and I agree with the recommendation to seek professional help.
Magnesium Glycinate has worked very well for me. It was recommended by my neurologist to help alleviate tension headaches and neck pain, but it acts like a muscle relaxer and helps me to fall asleep faster.
Melatonin doesn't work for me either because it gives terrible night mares/vivid dreams. I only tried it once and I had a hard time functioning for few days. Never tried Ambien.
I don't keep electronics in my bedroom ever!! I have a land line by my husband night table so our cell phones are turned off and kept in the office. But I don't keep my bedroom dark. There is always a dim night light near the door to guide us when we get up in the middle of the night to use the loo. I have night lights in every room in the house. Actually, I can't fall asleep in the dark.0 -
kshama2001 wrote: »
Best sleep of my life was when I was winter camping and the temperature was in the teens. I'd wake in the same position, too.
Of course, I had specialized gear for this, but I do not understand how people who've lost weight (and don't have a medical condition) can't find clothing to keep them warm at 70 degrees if I can be warm sleeping outside in the teens. (I did make it down to 7 degrees, but that was a little too cold, even for me.)
I just shivered reading this...
OP, I hope you can take some of these suggestions and find something that will work for you. I'm one of those people who needs to work out in the evening. I'm home by 7:15, eat dinner, and by 10:15, I'm out like a light. On days without a vigorous workout, it can take me longer to fall asleep. I don't get worked up by physical activity, I get tired.
Also, consider a sleep study. I have used a CPAP for about 4 years. I'm not overweight, and wasn't when I was diagnosed. Within a month, my sleep improved immensely. I pretty much have to sleep on my back because of the mask, but I have also found that if I get up in the night, it's helpful to lie back down in my "sleeping position" (the position I lie in every night when I go to bed) rather than whatever feels good. It seems to trigger my brain that it's time to fall asleep again.
Good luck. It's becoming more and more well known how important good sleep is
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I like to listen to an audio book, preferably one I've read before, really quiet so I have to strain to hear. It doesn't always work but it often does.0
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The sleep hygiene suggestions are all solid.
My son and I both have insomnia and the wind down meditations in the Headspace app help tremendously. He also uses many of the meditations for anxiety and finds them useful generally.
If my insomnia isn’t too bad I will listen to an audiobook—one I’ve heard a thousand times and so is not remotely suspenseful, preferably one with a soothing narrator (I like the narrator for the Harry Potter books & the Hamish Macbeth mystery series, for ex).0 -
I have a stressful job that often keeps me up at night. My strategies:
* no lights (blackout drapes, no tv in the bedroom, no alarm clock—I use an old phone and it lays face down)
* Cool temp
* Comfy bed (for me, that’s high quality cotton sheets, memory foam mattress with gel top—I call it “cloud bed)
* There are a few sitcoms or movies I know by heart. I will often put one of them on just loud enough so I can hear it, but not so loud it keeps me awake. The familiar sounds are comforting for me. I turn it face down so ther’s nothing to see. As a bonus, I occasionally pick up on dialog or sound effects I missed when I was watching the movie.
* I also use an app called “Relax Melodies.” It has hundreds of sounds and rhythms you can mix to your heart’s content (it also comes with pre-made ones). Or you can just listen to white noise. Or brown noise, etc. whatever works. Just don’t start mixing before you go to bed or you’ll get so caught up you won’t get any sleep.
* I also email myself. When I wake up thinking about something I’m afraid I’ll forget, I just whip open outlook and send myself a note. Getting it down gets it off my mind and makes it less distracting.
I hope you find some sleep and peace soon. Thank you for your service! 💗1 -
Prazosin has been prescribed for PTSD nightmares.
Guided meditation may help falling to sleep.1 -
I don't have any advice and I'm sorry to hear that you are having trouble sleeping. I just wanted to say "thank you" for your service. I hope you find some peace soon and you get the support you need.0
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