Why do I keep eating chips.
samvalen113
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5 11 315lbs 26 year old , been on a really strict low calorie diet for a month now and keep eating chips just can’t get over them. The goal for me is 165 lbs with in next year like I once was.
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Just don’t buy them. I don’t keep any of my major temptation foods in my apartment. It’s just easier that way.
Sometimes I’ll buy a single serving size as a treat so it’s not like I cut it out completely but it’s just better not to have them available 24/718 -
samvalen113 wrote: »5 11 315lbs 26 year old , been on a really strict low calorie diet for a month now and keep eating chips just can’t get over them. The goal for me is 165 lbs with in next year like I once was.
1) Are you eating enough or is your calorie deficit too aggressive?
2) You might be better off not keeping trigger foods in the house.13 -
Chips are a major comfort food for me. My grandma loved chips and we would eat them together, so it triggers really good memories. I just can't have them in the house, I just don't buy them.4
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You’ve gotten some sterling advice here.
I had some Cheetos Friday night, first time I’ve had chips’ish snack in months. Adter I got home, logged the 160 calories for what was essentially three or four bites, and realized I wasn’t getting my big bowl of pudding, whipped cream and sprinkles as a result, that did it for me.
You have to make a plan, and spend the calories where you want them. For me, it’s a lot more enjoyable to have a big snack that can be savored at length than a gone-in-an-instant snack.9 -
These types of food are literally engineered to make you crave them. Don't buy them in the first place so that you can't eat them. After enough time goes by the cravings will ebb away.11
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You get to choose what you spend your budget on.
Timelines and weight loss tend to not mix well at all.
Eat like the person you want to be would be eating and the way he will be eating in the future.
That will be good enough to get you there soon enough.
The reasons behind your gain to 300 have not disappeared--not yet. The "I've been obese genie" is out of the bottle now. Returning to the 160s and staying there is a 5++ year ongoing commitment to yourself. Not a one or two year one.
The "I lost weight in a year and life is back to normal" fantasy, without a strong ongoing commitment moving forward, is just that, a fantasy, when it comes to formerly obese people maintaining our weight loss long term.
The biggest mistake is not trying. The second biggest mistake is trying so hard you end up having to try again! Or is that flipped?!??
When I was starting out I had pre-portioned snacks (weighed in baggies) and rules.
Get up, get snack, sit, log, eat, no tv or computer. Enjoy. By itself.
Repeat for second snack but 250 or so steps first.
Repeat for third, but walk around the block or nearby stores first (1 to 2k), too bad if raining, them's the rules.
Fourth in a row required walking to store up the hill to buy. If not open still required going there and back (one hour)
Wasn't too many times I had four snacks in a row!
That said, that only lasted for a few months and went away when I got a grip at creating sustainable deficits. And, to be honest, a grip at making more satiating, for me, choices.15 -
Chips are a major comfort food for me. My grandma loved chips and we would eat them together, so it triggers really good memories. I just can't have them in the house, I just don't buy them.
Single size bags are a godsend. If I really, really want chips, I will buy a single serve bag and enjoy them. I do the same thing with a candy bar or cookies.8 -
If for some reason you’re in an environment where you cannot get rid of them (is a spouse has them around or you give them to kids every day) then you have to keep yourself from starting. Don’t have the first one. After that I’m toast. So I don’t even have one. It’s more like a game I play w myself. I also put them away stat so they aren’t in my face. No I don’t even bother with portion control... I WILL eat four portions. So I cannot start.4
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I have chips every now and then. But then I don’t have dinner as the calories are about the same. Usually I prefer my dinner, because sateity. Sometimes I chose the crisps3
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Salt craving? Try buying a small tin of flavored almonds. They are salty, but have protein and are more filling. Be sure to measure them out first- it's easy to over do them.2
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We can learn to moderate ourselves with foods and portions.
Believing that you can't is tiptoeing around the truth. Healthy stuff is still healthy but it doesn't make you 'thin' or fit. When the cure becomes worse than the dilemma, Houston, we've got another problem on our hands.
Throw all that dieting dogma out the window. While the how, how, hows are really nice to have the why, why, whys are equally important. We've been laying down tracks and creating neural pathways in our brain since the day we were born. They're really strong and we are bent on survival.
The brain is the strongest muscle in the body. It's powerful. It can help you push through any food obstacle if you'll train it with some brain training. You can't pull the rug right out from underneath your brain because it's stronger than any diet.
Heckatoot. You can remove more than half of a stomach and the brain will still win. The appetite control center is located in the brain and not the stomach. That's why WLS patients can eat it all back just like serial dieters. It's not the stomach we need to remove, it's the brain we need to fix.
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I'm going to guess that the answer to your question is in your post:samvalen113 wrote: »315 lb been on a really strict low calorie diet for a month now
How low are your calories, and how strict are you being? If you're eating at a very large calorie deficit, this can be difficult to maintain. Many people do well on restrictive diets for a few weeks, and then find themselves relapsing because they just can't continue eating like that.6 -
I wasn’t sure from some of the comments what chips were.
If it’s crisps...I usually have the potato ones like quavers,squares,wotsits as they are only 79-99 calories depending which ones you get.I used to eat the big bags of Thai sweet chilli and they were like 600 calories and high fat content haha!!
As for chips! I love chips too! I buy a bag of potatoes and make my own x you don’t get many for the grams, but they satisfy your chip needs
Also in Iceland slimming world do the same chips...they are nice too but again you don’t get many for the Grams
Or another possible solution is if you can save some of your calories up from the week that you don’t eat, you could treat yourself to a bag of chips from the chip shop on the weekend
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samvalen113 wrote: »5 11 315lbs 26 year old , been on a really strict low calorie diet for a month now and keep eating chips just can’t get over them. The goal for me is 165 lbs with in next year like I once was.
You have a lifetime of habits that got you to 315 pounds, including overeating chips. It's really hard to change those habits. Sometimes it's easier to create a new good habit. Over time, you'll eventually edge out the bad habits with the new good ones.
With that said, you probably aren't going to lose 150 pounds in a year, if you do this in a slow and sustainable way. The good news is, though, is that you will be more likely to maintain the weight loss with all the good habits you've created.
Half_Size_Me is a great podcast, if you're looking for some more inspiration.7 -
Chips are my crack, I cant have them in the house.0
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Why do you want to eat potato chips? Because they taste fantastic.
There is a reason chips are so dangerous for so many dieters to have in the house. They are a classic trigger food.
In my mind, the main issue here is not the chips, but setting a goal of 150 lbs lost in one year.
These two things are not unrelated. In fact binging and setting an unreasonably aggressive weight loss goal are two sides of the same coin.
If you put yourself on a solid, moderate weight-loss journey, like 1.5 lbs/week, you will find that you have some calories available each day for treats, which could be potato chips. You will discover that you can stay within your calories and still enjoy modest portions of things like chips, such that you will not have a burning desire to eat them beyond your caloric limit. Your odds of dieting successfully and managing your intake of trigger foods are phenomenally higher if you dispense with the "I have to get back to my lowest weight ever within 12 months" mind set and set a reasonable goal.
BTW, you are 5'11" and 315 pounds. I started at 5'11" and 320 pounds. So ... same kind of starting point,. I am now in month 13 of my diet and have lost an average of 1.4 pounds per week during that time. I rarely go off the rails with trigger foods, even though I absolutely friekin' love them. Why? Because I have some every day. Chocolate chip cookies, jalapeno potato chips, you name it, I have it, but only up to 150 calories or whatever cals I have left after I've finished my reasonably healthy food for the day, whichever is less. That's a small but not insignificant bowl of chips, or two cookies, etc. I have this treat EVERY SINGLE DAY. 365 days per year. While losing weight. Think about it.
As long as you are trying to starve yourself (which ultimately will not work), you are going to dream about chips, and then you are going to break down and eat them, unwinding all your hard dieting work. Then you will start all over, possibly from a higher weight. Save yourself all of this trouble. Set a reasonable goal like 1.5 lbs per week, or 2.0 lbs per week if you absolutely must (but you will set it lower later, when you get sick and tired of the calorie deprivation in a couple/few months), use the MFP Goals tool to determine how many calories you're allowed in order to hit that target, and then stick to it. Don't eat more calories, or less calories.12 -
I'm with you...big fan of chips. If I don't have those; revert to peanuts... which; calories wise is just as bad unfortunately,0
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I think for most people it's the crunch craving. What worked for me was buying bran flakes cereal and eating that dry in 1/2 cup servings. It was delicious, nutritious and really gave me the fulfillment of chips.
I also strongly disagree with 1200 cal/day. I did that for awhile and it had the opposite affect on me where I started under eating. I suggest finding a site where you can calculate your macros based on your individual needs.0 -
Shortgirlrunning wrote: »Just don’t buy them. I don’t keep any of my major temptation foods in my apartment. It’s just easier that way.
Sometimes I’ll buy a single serving size as a treat so it’s not like I cut it out completely but it’s just better not to have them available 24/7
Definitely would be best. I find them addicting and if I buy the box of them from Costco I’ll go through it in less than a week. So maybe just don’t have them readily available.
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Lynnsgoals2020 wrote: »Chips are my crack, I cant have them in the house.
Same here. Especially salt and vinegar kettle chips! I just don't bring them in the house. I can moderate almost all other foods just fine but not chips. If they are in the house, I'm going to go at them until they're gone.2 -
Why do you want to eat potato chips? Because they taste fantastic. There is a reason chips are so dangerous for so many dieters to have in the house. They are a classic trigger food.
In my mind, the main issue here is not the chips, but setting a goal of 150 lbs lost in one year.
These two things are not unrelated. In fact binging and setting an unreasonably aggressive weight loss goal are two sides of the same coin.
If you put yourself on a solid, moderate weight-loss journey, like 1.5 lbs/week, you will find that you have some calories available each day for treats, which could be potato chips. You will discover that you can stay within your calories and still enjoy modest portions of things like chips, such that you will not have a burning desire to eat them beyond your caloric limit. Your odds of dieting successfully and managing your intake of trigger foods are phenomenally higher if you dispense with the "I have to get back to my lowest weight ever within 12 months" mind set and set a reasonable goal.
BTW, you are 5'11" and 315 pounds. I started at 5'11" and 320 pounds. So ... same kind of starting point,. I am now in month 13 of my diet and have lost an average of 1.4 pounds per week during that time. I rarely go off the rails with trigger foods, even though I absolutely friekin' love them. Why? Because I have some every day. Chocolate chip cookies, jalapeno potato chips, you name it, I have it, but only up to 150 calories or whatever cals I have left after I've finished my reasonably healthy food for the day, whichever is less. That's a small but not insignificant bowl of chips, or two cookies, etc. I have this treat EVERY SINGLE DAY. 365 days per year. While losing weight. Think about it.
As long as you are trying to starve yourself (which ultimately will not work), you are going to dream about chips, and then you are going to break down and eat them, unwinding all your hard dieting work. Then you will start all over, possibly from a higher weight. Save yourself all of this trouble. Set a reasonable goal like 1.5 lbs per week, or 2.0 lbs per week if you absolutely must (but you will set it lower later, when you get sick and tired of the calorie deprivation in a couple/few months), use the MFP Goals tool to determine how many calories you're allowed in order to hit that target, and then stick to it. Don't eat more calories, or less calories.
This is so good I'm going to quote it so people have the chance to read it twice.
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Oh gosh.. now I want crisps, any of the types I can't get here:
Mackies haggies and black pepper
McCoy Barbecue
Kettle or Coop Sweet Chilli
I'm glad they aren't available here
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https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17593902/
High energy density and fat content, and low protein and fiber contents were identifying characteristics of craved foods. The relationships between craving variables and hunger score suggest that the relative influence of hunger susceptibility on cravings may be important before and especially after ER.
Portion size of craved foods and frequency of giving in to food cravings appear to be important areas for focus in lifestyle modification programs for long-term weight loss.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22306437/
Dieting or restrained eating generally increase the likelihood of food craving. Attempted restriction or deprivation of a particular food is associated with an increase in craving for the unavailable food. This relationship suggests a variety of underlying cognitive, conditioning and emotional processes, of which ironic cognitive processes, conditioned cue reactivity and dysphoric mood are prominent. Food cravings may also be self-attributions, accounting for why a highly-palatable but self-restricted food is (over-)consumed. Overall, the popularised account of cravings as elicited by specific nutritional need is having to give way to a more subtle and complex appreciation of human eating behaviour.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17349717/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17349718/
Don't start none. Won't be none.
The method conducted to lose the weight is the one you will have to keep on doing to maintain the weight loss.
Restricting all trigger foods you love and enjoy right out of the chute won't last. At some point down the road, it may be the one or two year mark or even the five year mark, all dieting perfection will fly right out the window. Not only will you be dealing with ghrelin blowback but the mind is powerful...old cravings will win with all or nothing food trigger restriction. It does not last.
Learn to moderate food and portions right out of the chute and you'll actually have a much better chance of getting there and staying there. If you've dieted in the past and rebound weight gain with friends have showed right back up on your doorstep, there's your sign.
Second verse same as the first. We can learn to moderate ourselves with food and portions.2 -
Shortgirlrunning wrote: »Just don’t buy them. I don’t keep any of my major temptation foods in my apartment. It’s just easier that way.
Sometimes I’ll buy a single serving size as a treat so it’s not like I cut it out completely but it’s just better not to have them available 24/7
Thanks I will try to keep them out the house.0 -
samvalen113 wrote: »5 11 315lbs 26 year old , been on a really strict low calorie diet for a month now and keep eating chips just can’t get over them. The goal for me is 165 lbs with in next year like I once was.
1) Are you eating enough or is your calorie deficit too aggressive?
2) You might be better off not keeping trigger foods in the house.
My calorie intake is low I’m eating like 700 to 900 calories and I completely burn everything off I workout twice a day.
Will keep them out my house0 -
samvalen113 wrote: »samvalen113 wrote: »5 11 315lbs 26 year old , been on a really strict low calorie diet for a month now and keep eating chips just can’t get over them. The goal for me is 165 lbs with in next year like I once was.
1) Are you eating enough or is your calorie deficit too aggressive?
2) You might be better off not keeping trigger foods in the house.
My calorie intake is low I’m eating like 700 to 900 calories and I completely burn everything off I workout twice a day.
Will keep them out my house
This is so unwise and irresponsible I don't even know what to say. I urge you to get some diet and nutrition advice from someone you trust if you don't trust the advice you're getting here.
In any event, this is not going to work. Eating 700-900 calories per day, you have a 0.00 % chance of achieving your objective of losing 150 pounds and keeping it off. By "0.00" I mean zero percent possibility of success.
Please do this right or learn how to do it right and change course, before it's too late and you've damaged your body permanently.14 -
samvalen113 wrote: »samvalen113 wrote: »5 11 315lbs 26 year old , been on a really strict low calorie diet for a month now and keep eating chips just can’t get over them. The goal for me is 165 lbs with in next year like I once was.
1) Are you eating enough or is your calorie deficit too aggressive?
2) You might be better off not keeping trigger foods in the house.
My calorie intake is low I’m eating like 700 to 900 calories and I completely burn everything off I workout twice a day.
Will keep them out my house
You're going to burn out and binge and probably end up at an even higher weight. This is classically known as yo-yo dieting. Please, please, please reconsider. 1500 calories PLUS exercise calories is the lowest a male should go.12 -
samvalen113 wrote: »samvalen113 wrote: »5 11 315lbs 26 year old , been on a really strict low calorie diet for a month now and keep eating chips just can’t get over them. The goal for me is 165 lbs with in next year like I once was.
1) Are you eating enough or is your calorie deficit too aggressive?
2) You might be better off not keeping trigger foods in the house.
My calorie intake is low I’m eating like 700 to 900 calories and I completely burn everything off I workout twice a day.
Will keep them out my house
This is why you're struggling. You're not just burning the calories you're using through intentional exercise, your body is burning calories all the time just to live. You're digging a deep hole for yourself. It's going to end with you either burning out and failing to meet your goals or somehow sticking with it and causing yourself harm. Please rethink this.9 -
700-900 is dangerously low. It would also be making you incredibly hungry which would be making you overeat chips when you get them. I know people who have succeeded in long term weightloss this way but they also suffer long term health issues due to it as well. Best do it sensibly because weightloss isn’t worth healthloss2
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I saw on Pintrest this cheese crisp idea. On a baking sheet put down some wax paper. Take shredded cheese and put it on the sheet like you do w cookies and bake it until brown. They get crisp. Dip in slasa0
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