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  • neversaynever_43neversaynever_43 Member Posts: 61 Member Member Posts: 61 Member
    Are you a person who generally likes big meals? I am. My sister in law eats like a bird throughout the day. I’ve done it and lost and it didn’t stick. Made me misrerable. And once I start eating I have to keep eating. If I don’t eat in the AM I can go for 19-22 hours fasted. Eat a little snack and then a nice big meal and shut it down. I don’t count calories anymore. Weight comes off slow but in the right direction. Takes a few weeks to get used to.

    Either this works for you or it doesn’t. I would never recommend my SIL do it. She would be miserable.

    Good luck. And try to enjoy the fasted state. If you get into it, eventually you will.
  • Leah_62803Leah_62803 Member Posts: 285 Member Member Posts: 285 Member
    I’ve been doing mostly OMAD since June 12 and I’ve lost 18 lbs.
    I’m only doing it for weight loss so the benefit for me is that it restricts my calories while still allowing me to have a big, filling meal. It’s been working pretty good for me.
  • cosafe1cosafe1 Member Posts: 27 Member Member Posts: 27 Member
    I'm trying to start on 5:2 since after doing 16:8 fasting I feel I can more to a little more challenging fasting routine. I tried a 32 hour fast with under 500 calories during that fast and also a 24 hour fast: these during the past three weeks. Fasting really helps and I've been watching Thomas DeLauer on YouTube talk about fasting and how to break a longer fast properly.
  • lgfrielgfrie Member, Premium Posts: 1,152 Member Member, Premium Posts: 1,152 Member
    psuLemon wrote: »
    cosafe1 wrote: »
    I'm trying to start on 5:2 since after doing 16:8 fasting I feel I can more to a little more challenging fasting routine. I tried a 32 hour fast with under 500 calories during that fast and also a 24 hour fast: these during the past three weeks. Fasting really helps and I've been watching Thomas DeLauer on YouTube talk about fasting and how to break a longer fast properly.

    While Thomas Delauer has some good content, there is a bunch of click bait. There is no specific way to break a fast outside of consuming calories.

    I honestly didn't even know that was a thing. When my fast ends at noon each day, I just ... eat. When my eating window ends at 7 pm I just ... stop eating LOL
  • lgfrielgfrie Member, Premium Posts: 1,152 Member Member, Premium Posts: 1,152 Member
    psuLemon wrote: »
    lgfrie wrote: »
    psuLemon wrote: »
    cosafe1 wrote: »
    I'm trying to start on 5:2 since after doing 16:8 fasting I feel I can more to a little more challenging fasting routine. I tried a 32 hour fast with under 500 calories during that fast and also a 24 hour fast: these during the past three weeks. Fasting really helps and I've been watching Thomas DeLauer on YouTube talk about fasting and how to break a longer fast properly.

    While Thomas Delauer has some good content, there is a bunch of click bait. There is no specific way to break a fast outside of consuming calories.

    I honestly didn't even know that was a thing. When my fast ends at noon each day, I just ... eat. When my eating window ends at 7 pm I just ... stop eating LOL

    Well they got to come up with something for content. My personal favorites are his discussion on protein. He always advises against whey/casein since some people have digestive issues and instead promotes pea protein. Do you know what he sells? That's right pea protein, lol.

    I did check out his videos on Youtube based on this thread. Actually he seems like an interesting, knowledgeable and sincere person! I quite enjoyed the 3-4 videos I watched. But I remain of the belief that needing guidance on how to break a fast is silly. Like all intermittent fasting videos, books, podcasts, and the like, his videos on IF suffer from the basic problem that IF is something that needs no instruction. All you have to do is not eat LOL
  • whoami67whoami67 Member Posts: 229 Member Member Posts: 229 Member
    psuLemon wrote: »
    cosafe1 wrote: »
    I'm trying to start on 5:2 since after doing 16:8 fasting I feel I can more to a little more challenging fasting routine. I tried a 32 hour fast with under 500 calories during that fast and also a 24 hour fast: these during the past three weeks. Fasting really helps and I've been watching Thomas DeLauer on YouTube talk about fasting and how to break a longer fast properly.

    While Thomas Delauer has some good content, there is a bunch of click bait. There is no specific way to break a fast outside of consuming calories.

    I have never heard of Thomas Delauer so I'm not defending him or his videos. However, are you saying there's no such thing as refeeding syndrome? That there's no danger to consuming certain foods or certain amounts of foods after a fast? I was under the impression it was pretty much a medical fact that there can be complication ranging from the very minor and up to death when restarting eating after a fast.

    Or are you only talking about refeeding after a short fast of 12-36 hours?
  • freda78freda78 Member Posts: 172 Member Member Posts: 172 Member
    akkelley81 wrote: »
    Hello everyone! I wanted to start this thread to discuss with anyone else that's doing a fasting plan. My Doctor recommended the book The Obesity Code to me, and it just makes so much sense to me why I've can't seem to find a way to lose weight and stick to it. How is it working for anyone else? What are you struggling with? Right now I can't imagine taking the creamer out of my coffee in the morning, but I'm working on the rest :)

    Dunno what method The Obesity Code suggests but I have used IF for the last year to lose 7 stone (94 pounds) so around 2 pounds a week.

    I started with 5:2 but found that too tough after the first 3 or 4 months so now do 4:3 where I fast (600 cals) on Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays. Other days my current limit is 1800 cals although once a month or so I have a treat day where I allow more calories on one of those days.

    I am currently also walking about 30 miles a week but that has been a gradual process since March when the lockdown started.

    Works for me as I find restricting every day provokes a binge response and being able to eat a big dinner on 4 days out of 7 helps me control the urge. Not that I go hungry on the fasting days, eating lots of veg and I generally have a bowl of porridge.
  • whoami67whoami67 Member Posts: 229 Member Member Posts: 229 Member
    I've enjoyed Jason Fung's books. They make a lot of sense and are well researched/sourced. If I had type 2 diabetes, I'd definitely be using his methods to control or cure it.

    That said, I've been fasting on and off for the past few months for weight loss. I've also been fasting for religious purposes for years. I find I like it and it is effective. I am less hungry at any given time during a fast than I am on a regular day of eating. I tend to like to eat until I'm satisfied and on most days that takes me to about 2000-2500 calories. My maintenance if I exercise for an hour or so a day is around 1700 (1300ish if I am not well enough to exercise) so that leaves me hungry and unsatisfied all the time, like I'm constantly holding my breath. It isn't sustainable. And part of the reason it isn't sustainable is that my maintenance calories are so low in part because I've destroyed my metabolism by spending half of my life losing weight on well balanced healthy calorie counting diets and the other half regaining that weight and more. With each successive attempt, my metabolism gets a little lower. I guess I'm an all or nothing person. I feel so much happier and satiated being able to eat what I consider a normal amount of food on my non-fast days, and I'm not hungry on my fast days. Easy peasy.

    I have no way of knowing if this is sustainable or will work long-term. I haven't tried it that long, but for now, I like it. And I seem happiest with a 2-3 day fast each week. Or sometimes a MWF fast. And after my very first fast day, I haven't had any urge to overeat on my non-fast days.

    And of course, someone (or several someones) have to post those silly charts and comments about calories in/calories out. I liked the analogies in The Obesity Code. Why did the plane crash? There was not enough lift to overcome gravity. Why is the room so hot? Heat energy coming in is greater than heat energy leaving. True statements, but totally useless in correcting the problem just like the calories in/calories out thing. Yes, every sentient human on planet earth knows they're fat from too many calories. The problem that almost nobody can solve is how to stop having too many calories in a way that is mentally, socially, physically and emotionally sustainable for the rest of one's life. For some, it's intermittent fasting. For some, it's being hungry all the time. For some, it's longer fasts. For some, it's vegan. For some, it's low carb. For some, it's high carb. For some, it's drinking a lot of black coffee and smoking cigarettes.
  • GabiV125GabiV125 Member Posts: 250 Member Member Posts: 250 Member
    I’d go on limb and say that most people here who want to lose weight are not in the situation of fasting for more than 36 hours straight and/or frequently . The ones that do, I hope use the doctors re-feeding directions.
    My personal issue is staying within the calorie allotment and not feel like in order to do that I have to lock myself away from life.
    The 16/8 fits my eating times and helped many people to lose weight, and once I find out what I do wrong, it will work for me too. For now it makes me feel good and sleep better. Not bad results after 2 weeks
  • sparklyyeahsparklyyeah Member Posts: 16 Member Member Posts: 16 Member
    I've been doing 16/8 for 4 weeks and have lst 9lbs so far.
    I'm happy to have a clear cut off point to stop eating - otherwise I'm making my carpet threadbare walking back and forward to the fridge all evening 🙄
    I'm also calorie counting and either walking or cycling every day.
    I feel positive about it and find it easier to cut calories this way.
    I'm having a lot of early nights lol
  • psuLemonpsuLemon Member, MFP Moderator, Greeter, Premium Posts: 36,666 MFP Moderator Member, MFP Moderator, Greeter, Premium Posts: 36,666 MFP Moderator
    whoami67 wrote: »
    I've enjoyed Jason Fung's books. They make a lot of sense and are well researched/sourced. If I had type 2 diabetes, I'd definitely be using his methods to control or cure it.

    That said, I've been fasting on and off for the past few months for weight loss. I've also been fasting for religious purposes for years. I find I like it and it is effective. I am less hungry at any given time during a fast than I am on a regular day of eating. I tend to like to eat until I'm satisfied and on most days that takes me to about 2000-2500 calories. My maintenance if I exercise for an hour or so a day is around 1700 (1300ish if I am not well enough to exercise) so that leaves me hungry and unsatisfied all the time, like I'm constantly holding my breath. It isn't sustainable. And part of the reason it isn't sustainable is that my maintenance calories are so low in part because I've destroyed my metabolism by spending half of my life losing weight on well balanced healthy calorie counting diets and the other half regaining that weight and more. With each successive attempt, my metabolism gets a little lower. I guess I'm an all or nothing person. I feel so much happier and satiated being able to eat what I consider a normal amount of food on my non-fast days, and I'm not hungry on my fast days. Easy peasy.

    I have no way of knowing if this is sustainable or will work long-term. I haven't tried it that long, but for now, I like it. And I seem happiest with a 2-3 day fast each week. Or sometimes a MWF fast. And after my very first fast day, I haven't had any urge to overeat on my non-fast days.

    And of course, someone (or several someones) have to post those silly charts and comments about calories in/calories out. I liked the analogies in The Obesity Code. Why did the plane crash? There was not enough lift to overcome gravity. Why is the room so hot? Heat energy coming in is greater than heat energy leaving. True statements, but totally useless in correcting the problem just like the calories in/calories out thing. Yes, every sentient human on planet earth knows they're fat from too many calories. The problem that almost nobody can solve is how to stop having too many calories in a way that is mentally, socially, physically and emotionally sustainable for the rest of one's life. For some, it's intermittent fasting. For some, it's being hungry all the time. For some, it's longer fasts. For some, it's vegan. For some, it's low carb. For some, it's high carb. For some, it's drinking a lot of black coffee and smoking cigarettes.

    I dont' think you will find a person who would argue with you with the bold statement. The reason I do keto when I want to cut weight is for the hunger suppression capabilities. I often end up just eating 2x a day (sometimes with a snack in there too if I am short on protein).

    The only caution I would ever make is limiting extend fast if you want to maintain your muscle mass (which maintains your metabolism and gets you lean). There are multiple studies that show a slight advantage to more frequent meals when it comes to muscle protein synthesis.
  • GabiV125GabiV125 Member Posts: 250 Member Member Posts: 250 Member
    I think the chart is quite helpful when people are getting on to you must do keto, fasting, clean eating, whatever
    to lose weight.

    No you don't and it is helpful to know that.

    The accomplishments come only when we DECIDE to change something, anything, verified (or not) by others, charts, books, grandmas , etc, and not when we are told we must make the change .
    But the 10AM decision may seem different at 10PM and I , for one , I’m grateful for the chats. Somebody else struggles too, and somebody is succeeding.

  • paperpuddingpaperpudding Member Posts: 6,015 Member Member Posts: 6,015 Member
    GabiV125 wrote: »
    I think the chart is quite helpful when people are getting on to you must do keto, fasting, clean eating, whatever
    to lose weight.

    No you don't and it is helpful to know that.

    The accomplishments come only when we DECIDE to change something, anything, verified (or not) by others, charts, books, grandmas , etc, and not when we are told we must make the change .
    But the 10AM decision may seem different at 10PM and I , for one , I’m grateful for the chats. Somebody else struggles too, and somebody is succeeding.

    I have no idea what point you are making or how all that relates to my post that you quoted or to the chart in question which just sets out a simple fact - ie any diet works by creating a calorie deficit.

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