I hate whole foods
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AliciaHollywood wrote: »RockingWithLJ wrote: »moonangel12 wrote: »I have successfully lost 30 lbs this year with plenty of Cheetos and chocolate in my logs
I physically feel better NOT eating them, but weight loss is 100% possible with the foods you currently eat, no matter what they are, as long as you are in a deficit.
I hate this thinking. How you fuel your body and what nutrition you give it is everything to a healthy lifestyle... Keeping a crap diet but eating less of it is just a crummy way to live and will cause malnutrition..
She DIDN'T mention that's all she ate. I eat regular ice cream, chips and chocolate everyday. It's planned and measured. But I also endure I eat enough protein, carbs and fat to balance everything out along with getting the correct RDA for vitamins and minerals. You can eat whatever you want to once you meet your bodies RDA and health needs as long as you're not going over calorie limit.
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You can’t really eat “anything you want” within the boundaries you mention and be as healthy as you could be. There is hidden extra nutrition in so many common “superfoods.” Eating 100 calories of a hamburger bun and a multi-vitamin vs 100 calories of blueberries is a very different thing. Blueberries, one of the healthiest foods you can eat (preferably organic) supply all sorts of micronutrients and antioxidants that you can’t get even in vitamin supplements. Food can be medicine supplying you with cancer and disease fighting nutrients, help your skin and hair and have so many wonderful benefits. I spend a lot of time googling food nutrition and focus on eating the most nutritious food possible. I find that I hardly ever crave unhealthy food because I feel so much better when I eat high nutrient food. Once you learn what amazing things certain foods can do for you, it feels so good to know that you are taking care of your only body the best way you can!
Dark chocolate with a high cacao content is actually really healthy in moderation and even a superfood with many hidden nutrients so if that’s what you eat, great! But chips are mostly full of preservatives and chemicals and most commercial ice cream also has tons of additives and chemicals. If you made your ice cream in an ice cream maker or better yet, frozen yogurt, or made your own chips from scratch or bought organic low salt chips with only healthy ingredients, that would be fine in moderation. But most commercial foods are filled with chemicals and preservatives that are worse than the actual food and counter-balance any healthy food you eat. I think it’s really pre-packaged food that’s the most dangerous and causing so much obesity, diabetes, heart problems and cancer in current times.
And you completely ignored the context that he provided in his response... I would recommend that you go back and re-read it - especially the part about how having already met his daily nutritional needs, it doesn't really matter what you eat after that... taking in extra vitamins, etc does not mean you have a better outcome (and in a LOT of cases, it can create a much worse outcome).
And the dark chocolate thing... makes me laugh every time I read it... to get any meaningful amount of all those wonderful antioxidents and hidden nutrients, you would have to eat loads of it - like in the rage of several ounces a day.
As for the bolded... you are entitled to believe what ever you want to believe, but that does not make it the truth.16 -
AliciaHollywood wrote: »RockingWithLJ wrote: »moonangel12 wrote: »I have successfully lost 30 lbs this year with plenty of Cheetos and chocolate in my logs I physically feel better NOT eating them, but weight loss is 100% possible with the foods you currently eat, no matter what they are, as long as you are in a deficit.
I hate this thinking. How you fuel your body and what nutrition you give it is everything to a healthy lifestyle... Keeping a crap diet but eating less of it is just a crummy way to live and will cause malnutrition..
She DIDN'T mention that's all she ate. I eat regular ice cream, chips and chocolate everyday. It's planned and measured. But I also endure I eat enough protein, carbs and fat to balance everything out along with getting the correct RDA for vitamins and minerals. You can eat whatever you want to once you meet your bodies RDA and health needs as long as you're not going over calorie limit.
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You can’t really eat “anything you want” within the boundaries you mention and be as healthy as you could be. There is hidden extra nutrition in so many common “superfoods.” Eating 100 calories of a hamburger bun and a multi-vitamin vs 100 calories of blueberries is a very different thing. Blueberries, one of the healthiest foods you can eat (preferably organic) supply all sorts of micronutrients and antioxidants that you can’t get even in vitamin supplements. Food can be medicine supplying you with cancer and disease fighting nutrients, help your skin and hair and have so many wonderful benefits. I spend a lot of time googling food nutrition and focus on eating the most nutritious food possible. I find that I hardly ever crave unhealthy food because I feel so much better when I eat high nutrient food. Once you learn what amazing things certain foods can do for you, it feels so good to know that you are taking care of your only body the best way you can!
Dark chocolate with a high cacao content is actually really healthy in moderation and even a superfood with many hidden nutrients so if that’s what you eat, great! But chips are mostly full of preservatives and chemicals and most commercial ice cream also has tons of additives and chemicals. If you made your ice cream in an ice cream maker or better yet, frozen yogurt, or made your own chips from scratch or bought organic low salt chips with only healthy ingredients, that would be fine in moderation. But most commercial foods are filled with chemicals and preservatives that are worse than the actual food and counter-balance any healthy food you eat. I think it’s really pre-packaged food that’s the most dangerous and causing so much obesity, diabetes, heart problems and cancer in current times.
I understand that these are things that you legitimately believe, but what is the evidence that someone isn't as healthy as they can be while sometimes eating ice cream or chocolate in the context of a diet that provides the right amount of calories and meets their nutritional needs?
What is the evidence for the claim that commercial foods will "counter-balance" the "healthy" food that one eats?
Evidence matters and I'm not aware of any evidence that actually demonstrates those claims.
The example of a diet consisting of a hamburger bun and a vitamin or blueberries is kinda ridiculous. In reality, most of us are eating a variety of foods, including fresh fruits and vegetables. Having a piece of bread as part of a meal doesn't mean I'm not also having blueberries. It's not an either/or.16 -
AliciaHollywood wrote: »RockingWithLJ wrote: »moonangel12 wrote: »I have successfully lost 30 lbs this year with plenty of Cheetos and chocolate in my logs I physically feel better NOT eating them, but weight loss is 100% possible with the foods you currently eat, no matter what they are, as long as you are in a deficit.
I hate this thinking. How you fuel your body and what nutrition you give it is everything to a healthy lifestyle... Keeping a crap diet but eating less of it is just a crummy way to live and will cause malnutrition..
She DIDN'T mention that's all she ate. I eat regular ice cream, chips and chocolate everyday. It's planned and measured. But I also endure I eat enough protein, carbs and fat to balance everything out along with getting the correct RDA for vitamins and minerals. You can eat whatever you want to once you meet your bodies RDA and health needs as long as you're not going over calorie limit.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
You can’t really eat “anything you want” within the boundaries you mention and be as healthy as you could be. There is hidden extra nutrition in so many common “superfoods.” Eating 100 calories of a hamburger bun and a multi-vitamin vs 100 calories of blueberries is a very different thing. Blueberries, one of the healthiest foods you can eat (preferably organic) supply all sorts of micronutrients and antioxidants that you can’t get even in vitamin supplements. Food can be medicine supplying you with cancer and disease fighting nutrients, help your skin and hair and have so many wonderful benefits. I spend a lot of time googling food nutrition and focus on eating the most nutritious food possible. I find that I hardly ever crave unhealthy food because I feel so much better when I eat high nutrient food. Once you learn what amazing things certain foods can do for you, it feels so good to know that you are taking care of your only body the best way you can!
Dark chocolate with a high cacao content is actually really healthy in moderation and even a superfood with many hidden nutrients so if that’s what you eat, great! But chips are mostly full of preservatives and chemicals and most commercial ice cream also has tons of additives and chemicals. If you made your ice cream in an ice cream maker or better yet, frozen yogurt, or made your own chips from scratch or bought organic low salt chips with only healthy ingredients, that would be fine in moderation. But most commercial foods are filled with chemicals and preservatives that are worse than the actual food and counter-balance any healthy food you eat. I think it’s really pre-packaged food that’s the most dangerous and causing so much obesity, diabetes, heart problems and cancer in current times.
While I like your zeal. The folks above me are right. One problem is food availability. Some folks can't afford certain foods. Now, does that mean one can't eat healthy on a budget? No. The next is time. Does a single parent with possibly 2 jobs have time to make homemade icecream? Probably not. Does that mean they can't have a little commercial icecream of they used their slow cooker to make a meal or meals for their family? Truth is there is a middle ground some people have to walk. Obesity, diabetes, and cancer kind of walk hand in hand. Its probably not the "chemicals". Its most likely a surplus of calories that push diabetes and maybe cancer. Obesity, for sure. Unless you believe Dr. Fung. Then it's all insulin!🤣13 -
AliciaHollywood wrote: »RockingWithLJ wrote: »moonangel12 wrote: »I have successfully lost 30 lbs this year with plenty of Cheetos and chocolate in my logs I physically feel better NOT eating them, but weight loss is 100% possible with the foods you currently eat, no matter what they are, as long as you are in a deficit.
I hate this thinking. How you fuel your body and what nutrition you give it is everything to a healthy lifestyle... Keeping a crap diet but eating less of it is just a crummy way to live and will cause malnutrition..
She DIDN'T mention that's all she ate. I eat regular ice cream, chips and chocolate everyday. It's planned and measured. But I also endure I eat enough protein, carbs and fat to balance everything out along with getting the correct RDA for vitamins and minerals. You can eat whatever you want to once you meet your bodies RDA and health needs as long as you're not going over calorie limit.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
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Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
You can’t really eat “anything you want” within the boundaries you mention and be as healthy as you could be. There is hidden extra nutrition in so many common “superfoods.” Eating 100 calories of a hamburger bun and a multi-vitamin vs 100 calories of blueberries is a very different thing. Blueberries, one of the healthiest foods you can eat (preferably organic) supply all sorts of micronutrients and antioxidants that you can’t get even in vitamin supplements. Food can be medicine supplying you with cancer and disease fighting nutrients, help your skin and hair and have so many wonderful benefits. I spend a lot of time googling food nutrition and focus on eating the most nutritious food possible. I find that I hardly ever crave unhealthy food because I feel so much better when I eat high nutrient food. Once you learn what amazing things certain foods can do for you, it feels so good to know that you are taking care of your only body the best way you can!
Dark chocolate with a high cacao content is actually really healthy in moderation and even a superfood with many hidden nutrients so if that’s what you eat, great! But chips are mostly full of preservatives and chemicals and most commercial ice cream also has tons of additives and chemicals. If you made your ice cream in an ice cream maker or better yet, frozen yogurt, or made your own chips from scratch or bought organic low salt chips with only healthy ingredients, that would be fine in moderation. But most commercial foods are filled with chemicals and preservatives that are worse than the actual food and counter-balance any healthy food you eat. I think it’s really pre-packaged food that’s the most dangerous and causing so much obesity, diabetes, heart problems and cancer in current times.
Wow! Way to demonize food and the people who enjoy the "unhealthy" stuff! And you sure love that "superfood" buzzword, huh?
Good job there!
Gotta tell ya, tho, my ne1 experience is pretty much living off boxed and processed foods and, yet, not obese, not diabetic or pre-diabetic (even with a family member having been diabetic), no heart problems (even with my dad dying of a heart attack), and no cancer.
@Aliciahollywood I just read your profile and you *really* need to work on your mindset because you're buying into the you need to be model thin to be happy bs. I live in LA too and your thinking is what's going to lead into an eating disorder. Being thin because you live in LA is just utter crap. And it doesn't make you any healthier because you can be TOO thin.
I was actually going to delete my whole comment but then it got a like and a couple hugs so I didn't have the heart but I'm saying this with concern, eat a snickers bar. Please. Just one snickers bar.
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You're making some assumptions about what niner's "anything you want" is.AliciaHollywood wrote: »RockingWithLJ wrote: »moonangel12 wrote: »I have successfully lost 30 lbs this year with plenty of Cheetos and chocolate in my logs I physically feel better NOT eating them, but weight loss is 100% possible with the foods you currently eat, no matter what they are, as long as you are in a deficit.
I hate this thinking. How you fuel your body and what nutrition you give it is everything to a healthy lifestyle... Keeping a crap diet but eating less of it is just a crummy way to live and will cause malnutrition..
She DIDN'T mention that's all she ate. I eat regular ice cream, chips and chocolate everyday. It's planned and measured. But I also endure I eat enough protein, carbs and fat to balance everything out along with getting the correct RDA for vitamins and minerals. You can eat whatever you want to once you meet your bodies RDA and health needs as long as you're not going over calorie limit.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
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Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
You can’t really eat “anything you want” within the boundaries you mention and be as healthy as you could be.
And if you meant that "you" as "general you" not just niner, you're making some truly super-sized assumptions.There is hidden extra nutrition in so many common “superfoods.” Eating 100 calories of a hamburger bun and a multi-vitamin vs 100 calories of blueberries is a very different thing. Blueberries, one of the healthiest foods you can eat (preferably organic) supply all sorts of micronutrients and antioxidants that you can’t get even in vitamin supplements. Food can be medicine supplying you with cancer and disease fighting nutrients, help your skin and hair and have so many wonderful benefits. I spend a lot of time googling food nutrition and focus on eating the most nutritious food possible. I find that I hardly ever crave unhealthy food because I feel so much better when I eat high nutrient food. Once you learn what amazing things certain foods can do for you, it feels so good to know that you are taking care of your only body the best way you can!
Please stop telling us how we will feel, and how we think. You're making assumptions. You don't know. You're wrong. Period.
It's great to talk about yourself, what you do, and how great you feel - people for whom that resonates will come along with your ideas. I even agree with *some* of what you're saying, in a personal sense . . . but the way you talk about it is undermining your case, if you really want to persuade others to your way of thinking, who don't already agree.
Further, you keep talking about "certain foods" and "superfoods" and such, and focusing on what people ought *not* to eat: Do you understand that you can eat 100% superfoods and still be undernourished, or still become overweight? Your previous remarks make it seem as if you don't.
Dark chocolate with a high cacao content is actually really healthy in moderation and even a superfood with many hidden nutrients so if that’s what you eat, great! But chips are mostly full of preservatives and chemicals and most commercial ice cream also has tons of additives and chemicals. If you made your ice cream in an ice cream maker or better yet, frozen yogurt, or made your own chips from scratch or bought organic low salt chips with only healthy ingredients, that would be fine in moderation.
So, if I read labels, and buy ice cream that contains what I would put into it when I make it myself, or chips that have what I would put in when I make them myself . . . why or how would the ones I purchased pre-made differ?But most commercial foods are filled with chemicals and preservatives that are worse than the actual food and counter-balance any healthy food you eat. I think it’s really pre-packaged food that’s the most dangerous and causing so much obesity, diabetes, heart problems and cancer in current times.
Unhealthy foods** are unhealthy, but generally they don't cancel out healthy foods**. In saying that, you're making a remarkable claim . . . that requires remarkable proof.
(** I'm yielding, for the moment, to terms that I personally find remarkably unhelpful to getting proper nutrition.)
And, having been alive and adult all through the genesis of the obesity crisis . . . well, the idea that it's all about pre-packaged food, or additives - that really doesn't hold water, IMO.
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I'm like Ann is describing. I eat probably 80 to 90% whole foods. I'm celiac and my wife is allergic to cow dairy. Neither of us believes in eliminating whole groups of foods if we don't have to. Personally, I strongly believe that it can lead to other issues (my wife didn't eat any dairy for 3 years and she started having reactions to some nuts before we went back to sheep and goat cheese).
For me, the few packaged/processed things we eat is a nice break. It gets really old making everything from scratch. Last night, we had GF Chicken Nuggets from Trader Joes with a nice kale and berry salad with homemade dressing. The wife said, "I like your version of chicken nuggets much better". But I didn't have to cook that much and we balanced out eating breaded nuggets (made in the oven to lesson more oil) with vegetables and berries and a fresh dressing that I made with olive oil, frozen berries, garlic, fresh lime juice, APV and a little maple syrup to sweeten it.
I actually can't eat a lot of this stuff as the Xanthan Gum in everything GF messes with my stomach. But occasionally, is this going to destroy my health? I don't think so. When I go to the doc, they tell me that my numbers, for 55, are ideal. I'm healthier now than in my 30s. Just older.6 -
AliciaHollywood wrote: »You can’t really eat “anything you want” within the boundaries you mention and be as healthy as you could be. There is hidden extra nutrition in so many common “superfoods.” Eating 100 calories of a hamburger bun and a multi-vitamin vs 100 calories of blueberries is a very different thing. Blueberries, one of the healthiest foods you can eat (preferably organic) supply all sorts of micronutrients and antioxidants that you can’t get even in vitamin supplements. Food can be medicine supplying you with cancer and disease fighting nutrients, help your skin and hair and have so many wonderful benefits. I spend a lot of time googling food nutrition and focus on eating the most nutritious food possible. I find that I hardly ever crave unhealthy food because I feel so much better when I eat high nutrient food. Once you learn what amazing things certain foods can do for you, it feels so good to know that you are taking care of your only body the best way you can!
Dark chocolate with a high cacao content is actually really healthy in moderation and even a superfood with many hidden nutrients so if that’s what you eat, great! But chips are mostly full of preservatives and chemicals and most commercial ice cream also has tons of additives and chemicals. If you made your ice cream in an ice cream maker or better yet, frozen yogurt, or made your own chips from scratch or bought organic low salt chips with only healthy ingredients, that would be fine in moderation. But most commercial foods are filled with chemicals and preservatives that are worse than the actual food and counter-balance any healthy food you eat. I think it’s really pre-packaged food that’s the most dangerous and causing so much obesity, diabetes, heart problems and cancer in current times.
This is orthorexia in a nutshell.
Ah, but what kind of nut? It had better be the most nutritionally correct nut, otherwise I won't be optimally healthy.
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AliciaHollywood wrote: »You can’t really eat “anything you want” within the boundaries you mention and be as healthy as you could be. There is hidden extra nutrition in so many common “superfoods.” Eating 100 calories of a hamburger bun and a multi-vitamin vs 100 calories of blueberries is a very different thing. Blueberries, one of the healthiest foods you can eat (preferably organic) supply all sorts of micronutrients and antioxidants that you can’t get even in vitamin supplements. Food can be medicine supplying you with cancer and disease fighting nutrients, help your skin and hair and have so many wonderful benefits. I spend a lot of time googling food nutrition and focus on eating the most nutritious food possible. I find that I hardly ever crave unhealthy food because I feel so much better when I eat high nutrient food. Once you learn what amazing things certain foods can do for you, it feels so good to know that you are taking care of your only body the best way you can!
Dark chocolate with a high cacao content is actually really healthy in moderation and even a superfood with many hidden nutrients so if that’s what you eat, great! But chips are mostly full of preservatives and chemicals and most commercial ice cream also has tons of additives and chemicals. If you made your ice cream in an ice cream maker or better yet, frozen yogurt, or made your own chips from scratch or bought organic low salt chips with only healthy ingredients, that would be fine in moderation. But most commercial foods are filled with chemicals and preservatives that are worse than the actual food and counter-balance any healthy food you eat. I think it’s really pre-packaged food that’s the most dangerous and causing so much obesity, diabetes, heart problems and cancer in current times.
This is orthorexia in a nutshell.
Ah, but what kind of nut? It had better be the most nutritionally correct nut, otherwise I won't be optimally healthy.
I call it something else but....runs to look up orthorexia...oh, god, yeah. Why did I think that was over exercising?
I still call it something else.
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I think the problems with Alicia’s comment have been thoroughly pointed out, so I’m gonna jump back to OP’s question in case they’re coming back to read the answers.
OP, what types of food do you like? Do you know how to cook?
Like others said, it’s not necessary to eat in a certain way, you just have to eat less than you burn. To do that, plug all your stats into MFP honestly, go through the guided setup, and then log everything you eat, making sure you hit the calorie number MFP gives you.
You mentioned liking chicken, ground beef and bread. What about things like tomato, berries, fruits, pasta, rice, cucumbers, shrimp, fish?
You could make meals as simple as a chicken breast, some cherry tomatoes and a piece of bread. Or even ditch the tomatoes if you don’t like them. It doesn’t have to be fancy or include salad/lettuce.7 -
Moderation. Balance. Foods you like that are (somewhat) healthy.
I'm a junk food junkie. Actually I'm simply a food junkie. If it can be eaten, I'm there.
In truth, I'd prefer all those Twinkies, ice cream, cookies and cakes, to berries, veggies, avocado and fish. BUT I try to maintain a healthier balance than that. IMO there is no magic 100% wholesome diet that fits everyone's needs and wants. Sure, you could just eat 100% healthy foods and maybe still be lacking that specific vitamin or mineral your specific body needs more of or shouldn't have as much of. And I do actually like fish, avocado, berries, etc.; I just simply prefer junk food.
But in finding a sustainable happy balance, I count calories and moderate what I feel I can healthfully fit into my day.
Maybe OP can search for substitutes of things they like that would make him happy? Whatever you choose to fit into your daily eating needs to be threefold, help you lose weight(IF your need/desire is there and it's within calorie count), is moderately healthy(IOW man does not live on sugar alone) AND makes you happy(so you could do it long term).2 -
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Sorry OP, but I had to chuckle at some of what you have said here.
As others have already pointed out, CICO is king for weight loss. You don’t have to eat lettuce or broccoli or drink special shakes etc.
Take what you want to eat and weigh and measure it. I hope you eat more than chop meat and chicken as that will certainly lead to malnutrition if you LITERALLY eat nothing else.
Enter your current weight in mfp, goal weight, how much you want to lose per week, etc (been awhile since I filled all that in so I don’t remember exactly). MFP will give you a daily calorie intake to lose that amount a week (.5, 1, etc). Weigh your foods on a food scale, eat at the calories MFP gives you and you lose weight. No YouTube videos advocating for “Whole Foods” diets.
I love Chinese and pizza. I love chocolate and ice cream. I lose weight every week eating those things because I work them into my allotted calories. Sometimes I do so by exercising more to give myself a bigger deficit to play around with.
Stop thinking that you “can’t” lose weight because you don’t want to eat rabbit food 😜5 -
AliciaHollywood wrote: »You can’t really eat “anything you want” within the boundaries you mention and be as healthy as you could be. There is hidden extra nutrition in so many common “superfoods.” Eating 100 calories of a hamburger bun and a multi-vitamin vs 100 calories of blueberries is a very different thing. Blueberries, one of the healthiest foods you can eat (preferably organic) supply all sorts of micronutrients and antioxidants that you can’t get even in vitamin supplements. Food can be medicine supplying you with cancer and disease fighting nutrients, help your skin and hair and have so many wonderful benefits. I spend a lot of time googling food nutrition and focus on eating the most nutritious food possible. I find that I hardly ever crave unhealthy food because I feel so much better when I eat high nutrient food. Once you learn what amazing things certain foods can do for you, it feels so good to know that you are taking care of your only body the best way you can!
Dark chocolate with a high cacao content is actually really healthy in moderation and even a superfood with many hidden nutrients so if that’s what you eat, great! But chips are mostly full of preservatives and chemicals and most commercial ice cream also has tons of additives and chemicals. If you made your ice cream in an ice cream maker or better yet, frozen yogurt, or made your own chips from scratch or bought organic low salt chips with only healthy ingredients, that would be fine in moderation. But most commercial foods are filled with chemicals and preservatives that are worse than the actual food and counter-balance any healthy food you eat. I think it’s really pre-packaged food that’s the most dangerous and causing so much obesity, diabetes, heart problems and cancer in current times.
This is orthorexia in a nutshell.
Ah, but what kind of nut? It had better be the most nutritionally correct nut, otherwise I won't be optimally healthy.
I call it something else but....runs to look up orthorexia...oh, god, yeah. Why did I think that was over exercising?
I still call it something else.
Obsessive exercise is generally called exercise bulimia, I believe.
With apologies to OP for the slight digression**, in case others may not be familiar, these are signs and symptoms of orthorexia according to the National Eating Disorders Association:* Compulsive checking of ingredient lists and nutritional labels
* An increase in concern about the health of ingredients
* Cutting out an increasing number of food groups (all sugar, all carbs, all dairy, all meat, all animal products)
* An inability to eat anything but a narrow group of foods that are deemed ‘healthy’ or ‘pure’
* Unusual interest in the health of what others are eating
* Spending hours per day thinking about what food might be served at upcoming events
* Showing high levels of distress when ‘safe’ or ‘healthy’ foods aren’t available
* Obsessive following of food and ‘healthy lifestyle’ blogs on Twitter and Instagram
* Body image concerns may or may not be present
Source: https://www.nationaleatingdisorders.org/learn/by-eating-disorder/other/orthorexia
IMU, it's not officially listed (yet) in the DSM (Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders–IV (DSM-IV) of the American Psychiatric Association (APA)), but is widely recognized as a potential issue - the question is whether it stands on its own diagnostically, as I understand it, vs. is an expression/subtype of a larger disorder category, in that the criteria overlap with things like anorexia nervosa and OCD.
** IMO, it's at least slightly relevant to the original question and our answers, because the idea that there are foods "good for dieting" and others "not good" can, for people who are vulnerable to this type of thinking, be an on-ramp to a disordered relationship with food, if not a full eating disorder. Clearly, all of us categorize foods in various ways, and that's not *inherently* disordered. Certain habits of mind or personality, though, can predispose a small number of vulnerable individuals to taking that thinking to an extreme, toward compulsion and disorder.7 -
I pretty much only eat entrees with three or less ingredients. Salmon steak, sauteed in butter, oyster sauce. Shrimp steamed with lobster base on basmati rice. Dry aged burger with sauteed onions, mushrooms and grilled tomato - oops! that's 4. It happens. I pretty much never eat any frozen meals in a box although I have nothing against them. They just taste like crap. And, not much take away. Oh, and I have desert about every other day: Klondike Bar, chocolate candy bar, brownie (PAnera Brownie has 400 calories so it get split in half. All this nonsense about rabbit food and goofy concoctions is off putting to me.7
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I'm not a big lettuce eater either, soI have vege munchies with a low calorie ranch dip. My choices: baby carrots, broccoli, cauliflower, tomatoes, cucumbers and a few that I don't dip, such as olives, pickles (not many due to salt), a hunk of sourdough french bread. I especially like this when I made pulled pork or slow roasted beef (deep pit style) served with pico or salsa. It all fits in my carb restricted diet quite easily.0
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JoelAguirre94 wrote: »I like chicken and ground beef. I hate lettuce. I like bread. I get the impression that chicken and ground beef aren't considered whole foods.
I hate lettuce too 👊 I'm losing weight on chicken and ground beef and all kinds of foods, some of which are probably considered "whole" others which are not.
You can do this.1
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