I hate whole foods
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What do you like to eat, specifically? Just eat that, but less of it.9
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JoelAguirre94 wrote: »I've watched people on YouTube and read articles that say that the best way to loose weight is eating only whole foods.
The best way (the ONLY way) is to eat fewer calories than you burn. It doesn't matter what you eat. You could eat nothing but twinkies and lose weight (it has been done). I would not recommend a twinkie diet but would also recommend you start ignoring the crap you find on youtube from people trying to sell you something.
Eat a variety of food - just make sure it is less than you burn (MFP will handle this for you). Eat what you like. Try to get enough protein and healthy fats. Don't worry about the rest.
FWIW - I eat chocolate ice cream and drink Mt DEW almost every day. As long as it fits in your calorie goal (and doesn't make the majority of you diet), anything acceptable.15 -
JoelAguirre94 wrote: »I've watched people on YouTube and read articles that say that the best way to loose weight is eating only whole foods.
YouTube is, overall, a terrible source for nutritional information.16 -
What do you like to eat?1
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JoelAguirre94 wrote: »I like chicken and ground beef. I hate lettuce. I like bread. I get the impression that chicken and ground beef aren't considered whole foods.
You can lose weight eating chicken and ground beef. Most people would consider chicken whole food, I think; and ground beef isn't far from it, at most. People will differ on whether ground beef is a whole food.
But who cares? You can eat chicken, ground beef, and bread and still lose weight, as long as your calories are at the right level (and quite a range of levels will be OK, as long as at least slightly fewer calories than you burn, and enough that you don't lose weight so fast it's dangerous.
Which foods you eat is more for nutrition/health and so you feel full on fewer calories.
You personally get to decide which foods help you feel full. It's different for different people.
Nutrition means getting enough protein and fat, plus vitamins, minerals and some other stuff like that. Chicken and ground beef have protein, and fat, so good there.
Are there any vegetables or fruits you like? It's good to get a variety, but they don't need to be exotic, and it's fine to eat the kind that are steam-in-bag, for ease. Potatoes count, as one. (Especially good if you eat the skin.) Potato chips/fries tend to be high in fat so hard to fit into calorie goal in meaningful portions very often and still get good nutrition, but you can figure out whether they fit in for you. Do you like any others, like carrots, peas, tomatoes (even tomato sauce is fine), green beans, etc? Apples (even applesauce), bananas, oranges? It doesn't have to be fancy exotic stuff.
Lettuce is 100% optional. Most lettuce isn't super-duper high in nutrition, despite being a whole food. Yes, it has some nutrients (especially the vitamin/mineral stuff), but some people like it because they think it tastes good, is filling for them personally, and has hardly any calories.
Really, for weight loss, whole foods don't matter, unless you personally need some in order to feel full.
Even for nutrition and health, you don't have to eat entirely and only whole foods.
What? I thought to eat whole foods Aunt Granny we had to learn to use the suns energy directly as fuel?!?! lol
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RockingWithLJ wrote: »moonangel12 wrote: »I have successfully lost 30 lbs this year with plenty of Cheetos and chocolate in my logs
I physically feel better NOT eating them, but weight loss is 100% possible with the foods you currently eat, no matter what they are, as long as you are in a deficit.
I hate this thinking. How you fuel your body and what nutrition you give it is everything to a healthy lifestyle... Keeping a crap diet but eating less of it is just a crummy way to live and will cause malnutrition..
Can I ask how it would cause malnutrition? What if I ate 2000 calories of highly nutritious foods, but 500-800 not so nutritious ones. Do my little treats cancel out the other foods? So for example if I ate exactly what you eat plus an ice cream bar, why wouldn't we have the same nutrition? I would have more calories and might be happier, but I fail to see the difference.12 -
JoelAguirre94 wrote: »I've watched people on YouTube and read articles that say that the best way to loose weight is eating only whole foods.
For most people, getting to a healthy weight, and staying there, makes a far bigger improvement in their health (and future health risk) than does specific food choices.
I'm assuming you're not eating in some highly unusual, extremely non-nutritious way** right now. Just eat that, but less, to hit your calorie goal. If you log your food, watch your food diary and see what "costs" you more calories than the good you get out of it (taste, filling, etc.). Eat less of those things, more of something you like that fits better. That's all there is to it.
Honestly, there are people on YouTube saying all kinds of nutty things (flat earthers, and whatnot). Ignore them.
Now, I'm not saying the "eat whole foods" people are the same as flat earthers. It's fine and can be very healthy to eat all whole foods, as long as the foods add up to good overall nutrition. (It's possible to eat all whole foods and still have an unhealthy overall diet, BTW.) But it's not even remotely necessary to eat whole foods and nothing else in order to have a reasonably healthy diet.
And it's 100% not necessary to eat whole foods in order to lose weight. You could lose weight eating nothing but spoonfuls of white sugar, as long as added up to fewer calories than you're burning. Something tells me you don't want to do that anyway. It certainly wouldn't be a a good idea for nutrition or health, and you'd probably be profoundly hungry all the time . . . but if you stuck to it, you'd lose weight, at least until malnutrition kicked in enough to make you sick (which it would eventually, if you ate *only* sugar . . . which I'm sure you won't).
** For example, there was a fad YouTuber pushing eating pretty much only bananas (which *are* a whole food). That's not good nutrition. If you eat in an average sort of way now, and haven't had major nutritional deficiencies, it's fine to keep eating those things, just fewer calories.2 -
JoelAguirre94 wrote: »I've watched people on YouTube and read articles that say that the best way to loose weight is eating only whole foods.
They're wrong.
The best way -- only way long term -- to lose weight is to consumer fewer calories than your body uses.7 -
lynn_glenmont wrote: »JoelAguirre94 wrote: »I've watched people on YouTube and read articles that say that the best way to loose weight is eating only whole foods.
They're wrong.
The best way -- only way long term -- to lose weight is to consumer fewer calories than your body uses.
True... so true, buuttt there are easier ways and harder ways to do that...5 -
RockingWithLJ wrote: »moonangel12 wrote: »I have successfully lost 30 lbs this year with plenty of Cheetos and chocolate in my logs I physically feel better NOT eating them, but weight loss is 100% possible with the foods you currently eat, no matter what they are, as long as you are in a deficit.
I hate this thinking. How you fuel your body and what nutrition you give it is everything to a healthy lifestyle... Keeping a crap diet but eating less of it is just a crummy way to live and will cause malnutrition..
She DIDN'T mention that's all she ate. I eat regular ice cream, chips and chocolate everyday. It's planned and measured. But I also endure I eat enough protein, carbs and fat to balance everything out along with getting the correct RDA for vitamins and minerals. You can eat whatever you want to once you meet your bodies RDA and health needs as long as you're not going over calorie limit.
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You can’t really eat “anything you want” within the boundaries you mention and be as healthy as you could be. There is hidden extra nutrition in so many common “superfoods.” Eating 100 calories of a hamburger bun and a multi-vitamin vs 100 calories of blueberries is a very different thing. Blueberries, one of the healthiest foods you can eat (preferably organic) supply all sorts of micronutrients and antioxidants that you can’t get even in vitamin supplements. Food can be medicine supplying you with cancer and disease fighting nutrients, help your skin and hair and have so many wonderful benefits. I spend a lot of time googling food nutrition and focus on eating the most nutritious food possible. I find that I hardly ever crave unhealthy food because I feel so much better when I eat high nutrient food. Once you learn what amazing things certain foods can do for you, it feels so good to know that you are taking care of your only body the best way you can!
Dark chocolate with a high cacao content is actually really healthy in moderation and even a superfood with many hidden nutrients so if that’s what you eat, great! But chips are mostly full of preservatives and chemicals and most commercial ice cream also has tons of additives and chemicals. If you made your ice cream in an ice cream maker or better yet, frozen yogurt, or made your own chips from scratch or bought organic low salt chips with only healthy ingredients, that would be fine in moderation. But most commercial foods are filled with chemicals and preservatives that are worse than the actual food and counter-balance any healthy food you eat. I think it’s really pre-packaged food that’s the most dangerous and causing so much obesity, diabetes, heart problems and cancer in current times.5 -
AliciaHollywood wrote: »RockingWithLJ wrote: »moonangel12 wrote: »I have successfully lost 30 lbs this year with plenty of Cheetos and chocolate in my logs I physically feel better NOT eating them, but weight loss is 100% possible with the foods you currently eat, no matter what they are, as long as you are in a deficit.
I hate this thinking. How you fuel your body and what nutrition you give it is everything to a healthy lifestyle... Keeping a crap diet but eating less of it is just a crummy way to live and will cause malnutrition..
She DIDN'T mention that's all she ate. I eat regular ice cream, chips and chocolate everyday. It's planned and measured. But I also endure I eat enough protein, carbs and fat to balance everything out along with getting the correct RDA for vitamins and minerals. You can eat whatever you want to once you meet your bodies RDA and health needs as long as you're not going over calorie limit.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
You can’t really eat “anything you want” within the boundaries you mention and be as healthy as you could be. There is hidden extra nutrition in so many common “superfoods.” Eating 100 calories of a hamburger bun and a multi-vitamin vs 100 calories of blueberries is a very different thing. Blueberries, one of the healthiest foods you can eat (preferably organic) supply all sorts of micronutrients and antioxidants that you can’t get even in vitamin supplements. Food can be medicine supplying you with cancer and disease fighting nutrients, help your skin and hair and have so many wonderful benefits. I spend a lot of time googling food nutrition and focus on eating the most nutritious food possible. I find that I hardly ever crave unhealthy food because I feel so much better when I eat high nutrient food. Once you learn what amazing things certain foods can do for you, it feels so good to know that you are taking care of your only body the best way you can!
Dark chocolate with a high cacao content is actually really healthy in moderation and even a superfood with many hidden nutrients so if that’s what you eat, great! But chips are mostly full of preservatives and chemicals and most commercial ice cream also has tons of additives and chemicals. If you made your ice cream in an ice cream maker or better yet, frozen yogurt, or made your own chips from scratch or bought organic low salt chips with only healthy ingredients, that would be fine in moderation. But most commercial foods are filled with chemicals and preservatives that are worse than the actual food and counter-balance any healthy food you eat. I think it’s really pre-packaged food that’s the most dangerous and causing so much obesity, diabetes, heart problems and cancer in current times.
And you completely ignored the context that he provided in his response... I would recommend that you go back and re-read it - especially the part about how having already met his daily nutritional needs, it doesn't really matter what you eat after that... taking in extra vitamins, etc does not mean you have a better outcome (and in a LOT of cases, it can create a much worse outcome).
And the dark chocolate thing... makes me laugh every time I read it... to get any meaningful amount of all those wonderful antioxidents and hidden nutrients, you would have to eat loads of it - like in the rage of several ounces a day.
As for the bolded... you are entitled to believe what ever you want to believe, but that does not make it the truth.16 -
AliciaHollywood wrote: »RockingWithLJ wrote: »moonangel12 wrote: »I have successfully lost 30 lbs this year with plenty of Cheetos and chocolate in my logs I physically feel better NOT eating them, but weight loss is 100% possible with the foods you currently eat, no matter what they are, as long as you are in a deficit.
I hate this thinking. How you fuel your body and what nutrition you give it is everything to a healthy lifestyle... Keeping a crap diet but eating less of it is just a crummy way to live and will cause malnutrition..
She DIDN'T mention that's all she ate. I eat regular ice cream, chips and chocolate everyday. It's planned and measured. But I also endure I eat enough protein, carbs and fat to balance everything out along with getting the correct RDA for vitamins and minerals. You can eat whatever you want to once you meet your bodies RDA and health needs as long as you're not going over calorie limit.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
You can’t really eat “anything you want” within the boundaries you mention and be as healthy as you could be. There is hidden extra nutrition in so many common “superfoods.” Eating 100 calories of a hamburger bun and a multi-vitamin vs 100 calories of blueberries is a very different thing. Blueberries, one of the healthiest foods you can eat (preferably organic) supply all sorts of micronutrients and antioxidants that you can’t get even in vitamin supplements. Food can be medicine supplying you with cancer and disease fighting nutrients, help your skin and hair and have so many wonderful benefits. I spend a lot of time googling food nutrition and focus on eating the most nutritious food possible. I find that I hardly ever crave unhealthy food because I feel so much better when I eat high nutrient food. Once you learn what amazing things certain foods can do for you, it feels so good to know that you are taking care of your only body the best way you can!
Dark chocolate with a high cacao content is actually really healthy in moderation and even a superfood with many hidden nutrients so if that’s what you eat, great! But chips are mostly full of preservatives and chemicals and most commercial ice cream also has tons of additives and chemicals. If you made your ice cream in an ice cream maker or better yet, frozen yogurt, or made your own chips from scratch or bought organic low salt chips with only healthy ingredients, that would be fine in moderation. But most commercial foods are filled with chemicals and preservatives that are worse than the actual food and counter-balance any healthy food you eat. I think it’s really pre-packaged food that’s the most dangerous and causing so much obesity, diabetes, heart problems and cancer in current times.
I understand that these are things that you legitimately believe, but what is the evidence that someone isn't as healthy as they can be while sometimes eating ice cream or chocolate in the context of a diet that provides the right amount of calories and meets their nutritional needs?
What is the evidence for the claim that commercial foods will "counter-balance" the "healthy" food that one eats?
Evidence matters and I'm not aware of any evidence that actually demonstrates those claims.
The example of a diet consisting of a hamburger bun and a vitamin or blueberries is kinda ridiculous. In reality, most of us are eating a variety of foods, including fresh fruits and vegetables. Having a piece of bread as part of a meal doesn't mean I'm not also having blueberries. It's not an either/or.16 -
AliciaHollywood wrote: »RockingWithLJ wrote: »moonangel12 wrote: »I have successfully lost 30 lbs this year with plenty of Cheetos and chocolate in my logs I physically feel better NOT eating them, but weight loss is 100% possible with the foods you currently eat, no matter what they are, as long as you are in a deficit.
I hate this thinking. How you fuel your body and what nutrition you give it is everything to a healthy lifestyle... Keeping a crap diet but eating less of it is just a crummy way to live and will cause malnutrition..
She DIDN'T mention that's all she ate. I eat regular ice cream, chips and chocolate everyday. It's planned and measured. But I also endure I eat enough protein, carbs and fat to balance everything out along with getting the correct RDA for vitamins and minerals. You can eat whatever you want to once you meet your bodies RDA and health needs as long as you're not going over calorie limit.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
You can’t really eat “anything you want” within the boundaries you mention and be as healthy as you could be. There is hidden extra nutrition in so many common “superfoods.” Eating 100 calories of a hamburger bun and a multi-vitamin vs 100 calories of blueberries is a very different thing. Blueberries, one of the healthiest foods you can eat (preferably organic) supply all sorts of micronutrients and antioxidants that you can’t get even in vitamin supplements. Food can be medicine supplying you with cancer and disease fighting nutrients, help your skin and hair and have so many wonderful benefits. I spend a lot of time googling food nutrition and focus on eating the most nutritious food possible. I find that I hardly ever crave unhealthy food because I feel so much better when I eat high nutrient food. Once you learn what amazing things certain foods can do for you, it feels so good to know that you are taking care of your only body the best way you can!
Dark chocolate with a high cacao content is actually really healthy in moderation and even a superfood with many hidden nutrients so if that’s what you eat, great! But chips are mostly full of preservatives and chemicals and most commercial ice cream also has tons of additives and chemicals. If you made your ice cream in an ice cream maker or better yet, frozen yogurt, or made your own chips from scratch or bought organic low salt chips with only healthy ingredients, that would be fine in moderation. But most commercial foods are filled with chemicals and preservatives that are worse than the actual food and counter-balance any healthy food you eat. I think it’s really pre-packaged food that’s the most dangerous and causing so much obesity, diabetes, heart problems and cancer in current times.
While I like your zeal. The folks above me are right. One problem is food availability. Some folks can't afford certain foods. Now, does that mean one can't eat healthy on a budget? No. The next is time. Does a single parent with possibly 2 jobs have time to make homemade icecream? Probably not. Does that mean they can't have a little commercial icecream of they used their slow cooker to make a meal or meals for their family? Truth is there is a middle ground some people have to walk. Obesity, diabetes, and cancer kind of walk hand in hand. Its probably not the "chemicals". Its most likely a surplus of calories that push diabetes and maybe cancer. Obesity, for sure. Unless you believe Dr. Fung. Then it's all insulin!🤣13 -
AliciaHollywood wrote: »RockingWithLJ wrote: »moonangel12 wrote: »I have successfully lost 30 lbs this year with plenty of Cheetos and chocolate in my logs I physically feel better NOT eating them, but weight loss is 100% possible with the foods you currently eat, no matter what they are, as long as you are in a deficit.
I hate this thinking. How you fuel your body and what nutrition you give it is everything to a healthy lifestyle... Keeping a crap diet but eating less of it is just a crummy way to live and will cause malnutrition..
She DIDN'T mention that's all she ate. I eat regular ice cream, chips and chocolate everyday. It's planned and measured. But I also endure I eat enough protein, carbs and fat to balance everything out along with getting the correct RDA for vitamins and minerals. You can eat whatever you want to once you meet your bodies RDA and health needs as long as you're not going over calorie limit.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
You can’t really eat “anything you want” within the boundaries you mention and be as healthy as you could be. There is hidden extra nutrition in so many common “superfoods.” Eating 100 calories of a hamburger bun and a multi-vitamin vs 100 calories of blueberries is a very different thing. Blueberries, one of the healthiest foods you can eat (preferably organic) supply all sorts of micronutrients and antioxidants that you can’t get even in vitamin supplements. Food can be medicine supplying you with cancer and disease fighting nutrients, help your skin and hair and have so many wonderful benefits. I spend a lot of time googling food nutrition and focus on eating the most nutritious food possible. I find that I hardly ever crave unhealthy food because I feel so much better when I eat high nutrient food. Once you learn what amazing things certain foods can do for you, it feels so good to know that you are taking care of your only body the best way you can!
Dark chocolate with a high cacao content is actually really healthy in moderation and even a superfood with many hidden nutrients so if that’s what you eat, great! But chips are mostly full of preservatives and chemicals and most commercial ice cream also has tons of additives and chemicals. If you made your ice cream in an ice cream maker or better yet, frozen yogurt, or made your own chips from scratch or bought organic low salt chips with only healthy ingredients, that would be fine in moderation. But most commercial foods are filled with chemicals and preservatives that are worse than the actual food and counter-balance any healthy food you eat. I think it’s really pre-packaged food that’s the most dangerous and causing so much obesity, diabetes, heart problems and cancer in current times.
Wow! Way to demonize food and the people who enjoy the "unhealthy" stuff! And you sure love that "superfood" buzzword, huh?
Good job there!
Gotta tell ya, tho, my ne1 experience is pretty much living off boxed and processed foods and, yet, not obese, not diabetic or pre-diabetic (even with a family member having been diabetic), no heart problems (even with my dad dying of a heart attack), and no cancer.
@Aliciahollywood I just read your profile and you *really* need to work on your mindset because you're buying into the you need to be model thin to be happy bs. I live in LA too and your thinking is what's going to lead into an eating disorder. Being thin because you live in LA is just utter crap. And it doesn't make you any healthier because you can be TOO thin.
I was actually going to delete my whole comment but then it got a like and a couple hugs so I didn't have the heart but I'm saying this with concern, eat a snickers bar. Please. Just one snickers bar.
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You're making some assumptions about what niner's "anything you want" is.AliciaHollywood wrote: »RockingWithLJ wrote: »moonangel12 wrote: »I have successfully lost 30 lbs this year with plenty of Cheetos and chocolate in my logs I physically feel better NOT eating them, but weight loss is 100% possible with the foods you currently eat, no matter what they are, as long as you are in a deficit.
I hate this thinking. How you fuel your body and what nutrition you give it is everything to a healthy lifestyle... Keeping a crap diet but eating less of it is just a crummy way to live and will cause malnutrition..
She DIDN'T mention that's all she ate. I eat regular ice cream, chips and chocolate everyday. It's planned and measured. But I also endure I eat enough protein, carbs and fat to balance everything out along with getting the correct RDA for vitamins and minerals. You can eat whatever you want to once you meet your bodies RDA and health needs as long as you're not going over calorie limit.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
You can’t really eat “anything you want” within the boundaries you mention and be as healthy as you could be.
And if you meant that "you" as "general you" not just niner, you're making some truly super-sized assumptions.There is hidden extra nutrition in so many common “superfoods.” Eating 100 calories of a hamburger bun and a multi-vitamin vs 100 calories of blueberries is a very different thing. Blueberries, one of the healthiest foods you can eat (preferably organic) supply all sorts of micronutrients and antioxidants that you can’t get even in vitamin supplements. Food can be medicine supplying you with cancer and disease fighting nutrients, help your skin and hair and have so many wonderful benefits. I spend a lot of time googling food nutrition and focus on eating the most nutritious food possible. I find that I hardly ever crave unhealthy food because I feel so much better when I eat high nutrient food. Once you learn what amazing things certain foods can do for you, it feels so good to know that you are taking care of your only body the best way you can!
Please stop telling us how we will feel, and how we think. You're making assumptions. You don't know. You're wrong. Period.
It's great to talk about yourself, what you do, and how great you feel - people for whom that resonates will come along with your ideas. I even agree with *some* of what you're saying, in a personal sense . . . but the way you talk about it is undermining your case, if you really want to persuade others to your way of thinking, who don't already agree.
Further, you keep talking about "certain foods" and "superfoods" and such, and focusing on what people ought *not* to eat: Do you understand that you can eat 100% superfoods and still be undernourished, or still become overweight? Your previous remarks make it seem as if you don't.
Dark chocolate with a high cacao content is actually really healthy in moderation and even a superfood with many hidden nutrients so if that’s what you eat, great! But chips are mostly full of preservatives and chemicals and most commercial ice cream also has tons of additives and chemicals. If you made your ice cream in an ice cream maker or better yet, frozen yogurt, or made your own chips from scratch or bought organic low salt chips with only healthy ingredients, that would be fine in moderation.
So, if I read labels, and buy ice cream that contains what I would put into it when I make it myself, or chips that have what I would put in when I make them myself . . . why or how would the ones I purchased pre-made differ?But most commercial foods are filled with chemicals and preservatives that are worse than the actual food and counter-balance any healthy food you eat. I think it’s really pre-packaged food that’s the most dangerous and causing so much obesity, diabetes, heart problems and cancer in current times.
Unhealthy foods** are unhealthy, but generally they don't cancel out healthy foods**. In saying that, you're making a remarkable claim . . . that requires remarkable proof.
(** I'm yielding, for the moment, to terms that I personally find remarkably unhelpful to getting proper nutrition.)
And, having been alive and adult all through the genesis of the obesity crisis . . . well, the idea that it's all about pre-packaged food, or additives - that really doesn't hold water, IMO.
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I'm like Ann is describing. I eat probably 80 to 90% whole foods. I'm celiac and my wife is allergic to cow dairy. Neither of us believes in eliminating whole groups of foods if we don't have to. Personally, I strongly believe that it can lead to other issues (my wife didn't eat any dairy for 3 years and she started having reactions to some nuts before we went back to sheep and goat cheese).
For me, the few packaged/processed things we eat is a nice break. It gets really old making everything from scratch. Last night, we had GF Chicken Nuggets from Trader Joes with a nice kale and berry salad with homemade dressing. The wife said, "I like your version of chicken nuggets much better". But I didn't have to cook that much and we balanced out eating breaded nuggets (made in the oven to lesson more oil) with vegetables and berries and a fresh dressing that I made with olive oil, frozen berries, garlic, fresh lime juice, APV and a little maple syrup to sweeten it.
I actually can't eat a lot of this stuff as the Xanthan Gum in everything GF messes with my stomach. But occasionally, is this going to destroy my health? I don't think so. When I go to the doc, they tell me that my numbers, for 55, are ideal. I'm healthier now than in my 30s. Just older.6 -
AliciaHollywood wrote: »You can’t really eat “anything you want” within the boundaries you mention and be as healthy as you could be. There is hidden extra nutrition in so many common “superfoods.” Eating 100 calories of a hamburger bun and a multi-vitamin vs 100 calories of blueberries is a very different thing. Blueberries, one of the healthiest foods you can eat (preferably organic) supply all sorts of micronutrients and antioxidants that you can’t get even in vitamin supplements. Food can be medicine supplying you with cancer and disease fighting nutrients, help your skin and hair and have so many wonderful benefits. I spend a lot of time googling food nutrition and focus on eating the most nutritious food possible. I find that I hardly ever crave unhealthy food because I feel so much better when I eat high nutrient food. Once you learn what amazing things certain foods can do for you, it feels so good to know that you are taking care of your only body the best way you can!
Dark chocolate with a high cacao content is actually really healthy in moderation and even a superfood with many hidden nutrients so if that’s what you eat, great! But chips are mostly full of preservatives and chemicals and most commercial ice cream also has tons of additives and chemicals. If you made your ice cream in an ice cream maker or better yet, frozen yogurt, or made your own chips from scratch or bought organic low salt chips with only healthy ingredients, that would be fine in moderation. But most commercial foods are filled with chemicals and preservatives that are worse than the actual food and counter-balance any healthy food you eat. I think it’s really pre-packaged food that’s the most dangerous and causing so much obesity, diabetes, heart problems and cancer in current times.
This is orthorexia in a nutshell.
Ah, but what kind of nut? It had better be the most nutritionally correct nut, otherwise I won't be optimally healthy.
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AliciaHollywood wrote: »You can’t really eat “anything you want” within the boundaries you mention and be as healthy as you could be. There is hidden extra nutrition in so many common “superfoods.” Eating 100 calories of a hamburger bun and a multi-vitamin vs 100 calories of blueberries is a very different thing. Blueberries, one of the healthiest foods you can eat (preferably organic) supply all sorts of micronutrients and antioxidants that you can’t get even in vitamin supplements. Food can be medicine supplying you with cancer and disease fighting nutrients, help your skin and hair and have so many wonderful benefits. I spend a lot of time googling food nutrition and focus on eating the most nutritious food possible. I find that I hardly ever crave unhealthy food because I feel so much better when I eat high nutrient food. Once you learn what amazing things certain foods can do for you, it feels so good to know that you are taking care of your only body the best way you can!
Dark chocolate with a high cacao content is actually really healthy in moderation and even a superfood with many hidden nutrients so if that’s what you eat, great! But chips are mostly full of preservatives and chemicals and most commercial ice cream also has tons of additives and chemicals. If you made your ice cream in an ice cream maker or better yet, frozen yogurt, or made your own chips from scratch or bought organic low salt chips with only healthy ingredients, that would be fine in moderation. But most commercial foods are filled with chemicals and preservatives that are worse than the actual food and counter-balance any healthy food you eat. I think it’s really pre-packaged food that’s the most dangerous and causing so much obesity, diabetes, heart problems and cancer in current times.
This is orthorexia in a nutshell.
Ah, but what kind of nut? It had better be the most nutritionally correct nut, otherwise I won't be optimally healthy.
I call it something else but....runs to look up orthorexia...oh, god, yeah. Why did I think that was over exercising?
I still call it something else.
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I think the problems with Alicia’s comment have been thoroughly pointed out, so I’m gonna jump back to OP’s question in case they’re coming back to read the answers.
OP, what types of food do you like? Do you know how to cook?
Like others said, it’s not necessary to eat in a certain way, you just have to eat less than you burn. To do that, plug all your stats into MFP honestly, go through the guided setup, and then log everything you eat, making sure you hit the calorie number MFP gives you.
You mentioned liking chicken, ground beef and bread. What about things like tomato, berries, fruits, pasta, rice, cucumbers, shrimp, fish?
You could make meals as simple as a chicken breast, some cherry tomatoes and a piece of bread. Or even ditch the tomatoes if you don’t like them. It doesn’t have to be fancy or include salad/lettuce.7 -
Moderation. Balance. Foods you like that are (somewhat) healthy.
I'm a junk food junkie. Actually I'm simply a food junkie. If it can be eaten, I'm there.
In truth, I'd prefer all those Twinkies, ice cream, cookies and cakes, to berries, veggies, avocado and fish. BUT I try to maintain a healthier balance than that. IMO there is no magic 100% wholesome diet that fits everyone's needs and wants. Sure, you could just eat 100% healthy foods and maybe still be lacking that specific vitamin or mineral your specific body needs more of or shouldn't have as much of. And I do actually like fish, avocado, berries, etc.; I just simply prefer junk food.
But in finding a sustainable happy balance, I count calories and moderate what I feel I can healthfully fit into my day.
Maybe OP can search for substitutes of things they like that would make him happy? Whatever you choose to fit into your daily eating needs to be threefold, help you lose weight(IF your need/desire is there and it's within calorie count), is moderately healthy(IOW man does not live on sugar alone) AND makes you happy(so you could do it long term).2
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