Does a personal trainer have to look in absolute top-shape?
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show them you can run a mile in 7 mins flat, that will give you a sure client contract.
dang thats all you gotta do? im in! ha0 -
2. If you prefer smaller muscles and/or slightly higher body fat (22% vs. 18%), just say that. It's a preference not a definition of what is feminine and what is not.
That's a great way to put it. Although people will use their preference to make their own definition of what is or isn't feminine.
What makes a good pt is their education, years of experience, and success rates of clients. Having a "tip-top shape body" can serve as a great marketing tool, but is not always an indicator of whether that trainer will help you reach your goal.
On another note, If you are a human being, you have muscles, male or female. So when people say "I like women with muscles" Or "women with muscles are sexy" it sounds ridiculous. It's just like me saying, "I like men with penises". Adding a descriptor like "defined" muscles or "wide" would be better indicators of preference for attractiveness.0 -
Its all about specific trainers!
Trainers for weight loss don't have to be in the best shape. I know a few who are out of shape, but still are successfull! Possibly because of "their" weight loss story!
Group Fitness Trainers HAVE to be in shape to show moves to the class and be on beat with the song!
Body Builder Trainers should be.......well Body Builders (Never seen one otherwise, could be wrong)
Cross fit trainers should be in or have been in descent cardio shape!
Les Mills Trainers should be in good cardio shape as they teach in front of classes.
The list goes on and on!
And to answer your question, as I am in the PT field....it mainly is about how good you can comunicate to be successful! Then after that, is how good your product is (success of the client)
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I really think some of y'all should look around on YouTube at some of the best lifters in the world. You'll find that a lot of them are not shredded. But if you think they couldn't help YOU get that way, you'd be wrong. It's been pointed out already, but not all trainers are bodybuilders. A lot of them don't give a crap about diet when it comes to their own lifestyle. They care primarily about lifting more weight. They're different than you. They get to have different goals for themselves.
Frankly, I'd see a benefit in having a trainer who knows how to do different things. Just because someone looks good doesn't mean they're going to be able to help you. One of my childhood friends is a trainer. She looks awesome. But her idea of strength training is Les Mills. I'm not down with that.0 -
How in the world you could think this is not sexy & feminine is beyond me..........:huh:
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I wouldn't hire a trainer unless they look how I'd like to look. If they don't practice what they preach, how can you trust them? I want more muscle, so there's no way I'd hire a soft looking trainer!0
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Here's what I mean: After watching multiple exercise videos, including Jillian Michaels, I have noticed that the female trainers have so much muscle... Once I get into shape, I still want a perfectly feminine figure. I'm not expecting to make six figures a year by making workout videos. My question is this: Can I a female personal trainer still be successful at training (with a speciality in either weight loss or maintaining weight) while still maintaining a slender, feminine figure?
Does this question make sense?
Thanks!
I've seen all sorts of different looks with trainers but of course all fit. The main thing is having a personality that motivates and helps the clients with their fitness needs. The more you start to get in shape and the more you look into becoming a personal trainer your view on muscles (I'm assuming thats the beef you have) might change anyways when you discover the overall benefits from having muscles. Good luck on your journey
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In for fit trainers. Ill fitting trainers hurt. :grumble:
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when i started lifting the bulk of my information came from this man:
in addition to that i think that jillian micheals is overrated.
prove that you are knowledgable and you will get your clients.
shallow people are a pain to train anyway.0 -
How in the world you could think this is not sexy & feminine is beyond me..........:huh:
I wish I could look as terrific as Jillian!0 -
Muscles on women are HOT.
Would love a women like Andreia Brazier any day of the week.
what a coinkidink!! because that looks almost exactly like MY body! except to avoid having rabid men and women follow me everywhere i go because i'm so damn hot, i just keep a handy layer of fat covering my abs at all time. so i'm more approachable.
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when i started lifting the bulk of my information came from this man:
in addition to that i think that jillian micheals is overrated.
prove that you are knowledgable and you will get your clients.
shallow people are a pain to train anyway.
When people don't look fit and you don't know their history or experience or never seen them train, you will be shallow. Yeah, depends on what you're training for, but I wouldn't pay someone if I'm in better shape than them and I'm training for aesthetics.
A fit trainer is motivating in itself.0 -
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This is like saying you can't have a male OBGYN because he wouldn't have the right parts.
Why can't there be a fat out of shape trainer that is awesome. They are training you. Not them.
Also, when I got to the barber, I look for who has the worst haircut and go to them. You know they didn't do that to themselves. So I say go to the worst looking trainer. Same rules apply.0 -
How in the world you could think this is not sexy & feminine is beyond me..........:huh:
So, let me get this right.....if my opinion happens to be that I DON'T find Jillian Michaels sexy (et al), that's somehow unacceptable? Nice fostering of group think. Feel free to pile on as you see fit.....0 -
Always an interesting topic. : ) Does a music teacher need to be a professional or star? A writing teacher need to be a best seller? How about a sports team coach? If they were really that good wouldnt they be making the millions instead of training the guy that does.
Of course PT's have to have a good presentation to get clients to trust them but a lot of what they do is teaching and motivation and knowing the most effective methods to get the results their clients are looking for.
There are plenty of PT's that look amazing that are teaching a bunch of garbage or not getting results for their clients.0 -
In for giggles!!!!!
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I thought I was done with this, but you know what - I'm not.
OP - I would NEVER, EVER, EVER hire a trainer who tried to push what THEY thought was the ideal figure. Which you very obviously would, since you think my ideal is unfeminine.
Grow up.
Wow, way to berate someone for not sharing your ideals. I don't think it's the OP that needs to grow up. How utterly pathetic. I think it's perfectly clear what the OP meant, perhaps she didn't phrase it the best way, but let's all have a massive overreaction.
If she thinks your ideal is unfeminine, so what? It's not your place to tell her what she should find feminine or otherwise.
AMEN!!! Sorry you beat me to it, but THANK YOU for articulating my thoughts exactly. Hate to say it but the meathead clique on here seems to be believe that the only TRUE definition of "healthy", "feminine", etc is to be huge and/or ripped....otherwise you're somehow less-than successful. Sorry, I hate to break it to you (collectively), but the final result of "success" is purely subjective, and can include anything up to (or including) that dynamic. I did the "unga bunga, me wanna bench 400 pounds" phase back in high school, and it's not for me anymore. If that's what floats your boat, so be it.....but not everyone sees it as th be-all and end-all (nor should you be sanctimonious enough to berate folks for believing otherwise). "Trim" is FINE, and not every woman needs to look like a powerlifting dude with t*ts and long hair.....0 -
I thought I was done with this, but you know what - I'm not.
OP - I would NEVER, EVER, EVER hire a trainer who tried to push what THEY thought was the ideal figure. Which you very obviously would, since you think my ideal is unfeminine.
Grow up.
Wow, way to berate someone for not sharing your ideals. I don't think it's the OP that needs to grow up. How utterly pathetic. I think it's perfectly clear what the OP meant, perhaps she didn't phrase it the best way, but let's all have a massive overreaction.
If she thinks your ideal is unfeminine, so what? It's not your place to tell her what she should find feminine or otherwise.
AMEN!!! Sorry you beat me to it, but THANK YOU for articulating my thoughts exactly. Hate to say it but the meathead clique on here seems to be believe that the only TRUE definition of "healthy", "feminine", etc is to be huge and/or ripped....otherwise you're somehow less-than successful. Sorry, I hate to break it to you (collectively), but the final result of "success" is purely subjective, and can include anything up to (or including) that dynamic. I did the "unga bunga, me wanna bench 400 pounds" phase back in high school, and it's not for me anymore. If that's what floats your boat, so be it.....but not everyone sees it as th be-all and end-all (nor should you be sanctimonious enough to berate folks for believing otherwise). "Trim" is FINE, and not every woman needs to look like a powerlifting dude with t*ts and long hair.....
No one is saying that "benching 400lbs" and being huge/ripped is the only way.
I only see people here being offended by OP's "definition" of feminine. NO ONE else defined what feminine is for everyone.
You're in a fit at the posters for what the OP actually did, not them.
Can you please quote some who said this? Because I see zero posts that state this and you're claiming it happened.. Did I miss it somewhere?Hate to say it but the meathead clique on here seems to be believe that the only TRUE definition of "healthy", "feminine", etc is to be huge and/or ripped....otherwise you're somehow less-than successful.0 -
I thought I was done with this, but you know what - I'm not.
OP - I would NEVER, EVER, EVER hire a trainer who tried to push what THEY thought was the ideal figure. Which you very obviously would, since you think my ideal is unfeminine.
Grow up.
Wow, way to berate someone for not sharing your ideals. I don't think it's the OP that needs to grow up. How utterly pathetic. I think it's perfectly clear what the OP meant, perhaps she didn't phrase it the best way, but let's all have a massive overreaction.
If she thinks your ideal is unfeminine, so what? It's not your place to tell her what she should find feminine or otherwise.
AMEN!!! Sorry you beat me to it, but THANK YOU for articulating my thoughts exactly. Hate to say it but the meathead clique on here seems to be believe that the only TRUE definition of "healthy", "feminine", etc is to be huge and/or ripped....otherwise you're somehow less-than successful. Sorry, I hate to break it to you (collectively), but the final result of "success" is purely subjective, and can include anything up to (or including) that dynamic. I did the "unga bunga, me wanna bench 400 pounds" phase back in high school, and it's not for me anymore. If that's what floats your boat, so be it.....but not everyone sees it as th be-all and end-all (nor should you be sanctimonious enough to berate folks for believing otherwise). "Trim" is FINE, and not every woman needs to look like a powerlifting dude with t*ts and long hair.....
and everyone who tries to increase their physiological capabilities must be a caveman? also i think you meant *bodybuilding dude*. powerlifters usually have quite high BF-percentages.0 -
I thought I was done with this, but you know what - I'm not.
OP - I would NEVER, EVER, EVER hire a trainer who tried to push what THEY thought was the ideal figure. Which you very obviously would, since you think my ideal is unfeminine.
Grow up.
Wow, way to berate someone for not sharing your ideals. I don't think it's the OP that needs to grow up. How utterly pathetic. I think it's perfectly clear what the OP meant, perhaps she didn't phrase it the best way, but let's all have a massive overreaction.
If she thinks your ideal is unfeminine, so what? It's not your place to tell her what she should find feminine or otherwise.
AMEN!!! Sorry you beat me to it, but THANK YOU for articulating my thoughts exactly. Hate to say it but the meathead clique on here seems to be believe that the only TRUE definition of "healthy", "feminine", etc is to be huge and/or ripped....otherwise you're somehow less-than successful. Sorry, I hate to break it to you (collectively), but the final result of "success" is purely subjective, and can include anything up to (or including) that dynamic. I did the "unga bunga, me wanna bench 400 pounds" phase back in high school, and it's not for me anymore. If that's what floats your boat, so be it.....but not everyone sees it as th be-all and end-all (nor should you be sanctimonious enough to berate folks for believing otherwise). "Trim" is FINE, and not every woman needs to look like a powerlifting dude with t*ts and long hair.....
No one is saying that "benching 400lbs" and being huge/ripped is the only way.
I only see people here being offended by OP's "definition" of feminine. NO ONE else defined what feminine is for everyone.
You're in a fit at the posters for what the OP actually did, not them.
Can you please quote some who said this? Because I see zero posts that state this and you're claiming it happened.. Did I miss it somewhere?Hate to say it but the meathead clique on here seems to be believe that the only TRUE definition of "healthy", "feminine", etc is to be huge and/or ripped....otherwise you're somehow less-than successful.
Seriously? Read back the past 3 pages in this thread (let alone DOZENS of others), and tell me you don't see at least a dozen postings (male and female) tantamount to "me like muscles". Just look at how badly the OP was ripped for simply IMPLYING her perception/opinion that being muscular/ripped might not be "feminine". Heaven forbid someone actually articulate that a woman doesn't NEED to look like, and see what happens. Better yet, put it side by side with any one of these:
and conduct a poll on which body style is “preferred’. Granted, it wouldn’t be scientific but, based on the subtle (and not so subtle) undertones around here, I have a pretty good guess not only which would win, but that it wouldn’t even be close.
Sorry, there’s a group think/pack mentality on these forums that beats anyone down who doesn’t ascribe to the belief that: 1) boobs are bad (i.e. sign of somehow being fat/out of shape), 2) muscles are the ONLY way to go (as if people don’t/can't have other goals), and 3) if you disagree any in way with the collective mindset (and *gasp* articulate an OPINION) you are wrong/to be shamed.0 -
I thought I was done with this, but you know what - I'm not.
OP - I would NEVER, EVER, EVER hire a trainer who tried to push what THEY thought was the ideal figure. Which you very obviously would, since you think my ideal is unfeminine.
Grow up.
Wow, way to berate someone for not sharing your ideals. I don't think it's the OP that needs to grow up. How utterly pathetic. I think it's perfectly clear what the OP meant, perhaps she didn't phrase it the best way, but let's all have a massive overreaction.
If she thinks your ideal is unfeminine, so what? It's not your place to tell her what she should find feminine or otherwise.
AMEN!!! Sorry you beat me to it, but THANK YOU for articulating my thoughts exactly. Hate to say it but the meathead clique on here seems to be believe that the only TRUE definition of "healthy", "feminine", etc is to be huge and/or ripped....otherwise you're somehow less-than successful. Sorry, I hate to break it to you (collectively), but the final result of "success" is purely subjective, and can include anything up to (or including) that dynamic. I did the "unga bunga, me wanna bench 400 pounds" phase back in high school, and it's not for me anymore. If that's what floats your boat, so be it.....but not everyone sees it as th be-all and end-all (nor should you be sanctimonious enough to berate folks for believing otherwise). "Trim" is FINE, and not every woman needs to look like a powerlifting dude with t*ts and long hair.....
and everyone who tries to increase their physiological capabilities must be a caveman?
Not at all. But when 1) it becomes the ONLY end to the process, and 2) a person is somehow less-than for not ascribing to the almighty barbell/benchpress/squat rack as THE means to achieving "fitness", it's a problem.....0 -
People are of course allowed to have their own preferences on body type, the type they want and the type they are most attracted to. What is WRONG is using your own preference to try to define a word such as "feminine", by doing so you insult others that do not share the same preferences as you.0
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How in the world you could think this is not sexy & feminine is beyond me..........:huh:
I like and find very feminine her body... it's her face I don't like...:P
But I guess this is even more about personal preferences0 -
I like and find very feminine her body... it's her face I don't like...:P
But I guess this is even more about personal preferences
funny i was just thinking that its her face that makes her look like a dude...
@TatonkaSorry, there’s a group think/pack mentality on these forums that beats anyone down who doesn’t ascribe to the belief that: 1) boobs are bad (i.e. sign of somehow being fat/out of shape), 2) muscles are the ONLY way to go (as if people don’t/can't have other goals), and 3) if you disagree any in way with the collective mindset (and *gasp* articulate an OPINION) you are wrong/to be shamed.
i think you are very mistaken. the ladies on here just don't like it when someone implies that they are less feminine if they have a little more muscle definition. its more about them, no one is saying that everyone else should look a specific way. why would they?
also i'm very sure your poll would not go the way you think it would. i for one would bed andreia brazier and kat dennings with equal pleasure if they where up to it. believe me: there is no "collective mindset".0 -
Having worked with a female trainer who is ripped I can say that I wouldn't work with one that wasn't. Oh and she was plenty feminine-I saw her in a bridesmaid dress and she looked beautiful, soft, feminine and amazing in her dress. She never made me feel as if I had to be ripped either and took the time out to praise me and tell me I looked amazing and was doing great work. I stayed with her for a long time because she was inspirational, amazing at her job and I admired her as a woman.0
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Harsh, OP was just asking if she needs to be muscly to be respected as a trainer because she'd like that career but her preferences lie with less muscly a body.
General answer: "OMG DO YOU THINK I DON'T LOOK FEMININE YOU PIECE OF"0 -
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I thought I was done with this, but you know what - I'm not.
OP - I would NEVER, EVER, EVER hire a trainer who tried to push what THEY thought was the ideal figure. Which you very obviously would, since you think my ideal is unfeminine.
Grow up.
Wow, way to berate someone for not sharing your ideals. I don't think it's the OP that needs to grow up. How utterly pathetic. I think it's perfectly clear what the OP meant, perhaps she didn't phrase it the best way, but let's all have a massive overreaction.
If she thinks your ideal is unfeminine, so what? It's not your place to tell her what she should find feminine or otherwise.
AMEN!!! Sorry you beat me to it, but THANK YOU for articulating my thoughts exactly. Hate to say it but the meathead clique on here seems to be believe that the only TRUE definition of "healthy", "feminine", etc is to be huge and/or ripped....otherwise you're somehow less-than successful. Sorry, I hate to break it to you (collectively), but the final result of "success" is purely subjective, and can include anything up to (or including) that dynamic. I did the "unga bunga, me wanna bench 400 pounds" phase back in high school, and it's not for me anymore. If that's what floats your boat, so be it.....but not everyone sees it as th be-all and end-all (nor should you be sanctimonious enough to berate folks for believing otherwise). "Trim" is FINE, and not every woman needs to look like a powerlifting dude with t*ts and long hair.....
No one is saying that "benching 400lbs" and being huge/ripped is the only way.
I only see people here being offended by OP's "definition" of feminine. NO ONE else defined what feminine is for everyone.
You're in a fit at the posters for what the OP actually did, not them.
Can you please quote some who said this? Because I see zero posts that state this and you're claiming it happened.. Did I miss it somewhere?Hate to say it but the meathead clique on here seems to be believe that the only TRUE definition of "healthy", "feminine", etc is to be huge and/or ripped....otherwise you're somehow less-than successful.
Seriously? Read back the past 3 pages in this thread (let alone DOZENS of others), and tell me you don't see at least a dozen postings (male and female) tantamount to "me like muscles". Just look at how badly the OP was ripped for simply IMPLYING her perception/opinion that being muscular/ripped might not be "feminine". Heaven forbid someone actually articulate that a woman doesn't NEED to look like, and see what happens. Better yet, put it side by side with any one of these:
and conduct a poll on which body style is “preferred’. Granted, it wouldn’t be scientific but, based on the subtle (and not so subtle) undertones around here, I have a pretty good guess not only which would win, but that it wouldn’t even be close.
Sorry, there’s a group think/pack mentality on these forums that beats anyone down who doesn’t ascribe to the belief that: 1) boobs are bad (i.e. sign of somehow being fat/out of shape), 2) muscles are the ONLY way to go (as if people don’t/can't have other goals), and 3) if you disagree any in way with the collective mindset (and *gasp* articulate an OPINION) you are wrong/to be shamed.
I'm sorry that that has been your experience with these forums but I really disagree. The only time people act like that are because they are so sick of people calling other women's physiques that they have worked extremely hard for "unfeminine." It's thrown around all the time and people have their hackles up because of it.
You really expect a woman not to be offended by that? On a fitness site of all places? :huh:
Oh and edit: I've NEVER seen someone say boobs are bad. I think you just made that up. I think we all agree that we
bewbs. :drinker: 0 -
People are of course allowed to have their own preferences on body type, the type they want and the type they are most attracted to. What is WRONG is using your own preference to try to define a word such as "feminine", by doing so you insult others that do not share the same preferences as you.
This.
I don't see anyone insisting that to be feminine is to be muscular, none. People are just expressing their disagreement to the OP's notion that sporting well-defined muscles is not feminine.0
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