Strange change in canned pumpkin calories
Noreenmarie1234
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I have been buying this brand for over 10 years and it always had 40 calories per half cup (123g).
Now they changed the nutrition facts to be 1/2c (130g) to be 70 calories.
So it went from 40 calories for 123g to 67 calories for 123g.
I just find this very strange since the ingredients are exactly the same. It makes me wonder if they are using butternut squash or some type of higher calorie pumpkin. It tastes exactly the same. This brand I have always liked because it is a little less dense than Libby's, is lighter in color, and has a more mild pumpkin flavor.
Also strange because every brand of canned pumpkin I have ever bought was always 40-50 calories per 122g.
It isn't a big deal as it isn't a huge difference for most people but weirdos like myself who sometimes eats 3c a day that is an extra 165 calories a day.
Anyone have any idea? I wonder if it has to do with what they are actually making it out of and I wish I could find out what type of "pumpkin" they are using.
Now they changed the nutrition facts to be 1/2c (130g) to be 70 calories.
So it went from 40 calories for 123g to 67 calories for 123g.
I just find this very strange since the ingredients are exactly the same. It makes me wonder if they are using butternut squash or some type of higher calorie pumpkin. It tastes exactly the same. This brand I have always liked because it is a little less dense than Libby's, is lighter in color, and has a more mild pumpkin flavor.
Also strange because every brand of canned pumpkin I have ever bought was always 40-50 calories per 122g.
It isn't a big deal as it isn't a huge difference for most people but weirdos like myself who sometimes eats 3c a day that is an extra 165 calories a day.
Anyone have any idea? I wonder if it has to do with what they are actually making it out of and I wish I could find out what type of "pumpkin" they are using.
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I can't speak to the change in calories, but be thankful that you found canned pumpkin. I tried to buy some last week to make pumpkin cookies and saw only empty shelves. There was a sign that said there was a supply chain problem that led to a shortage. Apparently, last year was a bad year for the pumpkin crop, and they use last year's crop to make this year's canned pumpkin.
Side note: I cooked sweet potatoes instead to make my cookies, and I couldn't taste the difference.3 -
SuzySunshine99 wrote: »I can't speak to the change in calories, but be thankful that you found canned pumpkin. I tried to buy some last week to make pumpkin cookies and saw only empty shelves. There was a sign that said there was a supply chain problem that led to a shortage. Apparently, last year was a bad year for the pumpkin crop, and they use last year's crop to make this year's canned pumpkin.
Side note: I cooked sweet potatoes instead to make my cookies, and I couldn't taste the difference.
I order 6 packs of #10 (6lb 6oz) containers online from webstaurant in bulk, lol.
It is always out of stock or crazy high price on amazon and my grocery store always goes out of stock as well. Last year there was a shortage and they didn't have canned pumpkin for almost a month! 0 -
If you can't see/taste/"feel" (texture) any difference, I would be inclined to assume the new label is an error.0
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Why don’t you call or email the company and ask them. It’s worth a try.
I just heard a story on the news that there is a pumpkin shortage this year because of all of the excess rain in the southern states. I’m pretty sure they were referring to Jack-o-Latern pumpkins, but it probably hold true for the varieties we eat.6 -
Why don’t you call or email the company and ask them. It’s worth a try.
I just heard a story on the news that there is a pumpkin shortage this year because of all of the excess rain in the southern states. I’m pretty sure they were referring to Jack-o-Latern pumpkins, but it probably hold true for the varieties we eat.
I did and they said "We update our facts regularly, what is on the label is correct". So not too helpful lol.
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So, do you just eat the pumpkin by itself?0
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Maybe it’s real pumpkin and that’s the difference. I know a couple years ago there was a controversy about canned pumpkin really being a different type of squash in spite of what the label says. That may account for the calorie difference. 🤷🏻♀️2
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Noreenmarie1234 wrote: »Why don’t you call or email the company and ask them. It’s worth a try.
I just heard a story on the news that there is a pumpkin shortage this year because of all of the excess rain in the southern states. I’m pretty sure they were referring to Jack-o-Latern pumpkins, but it probably hold true for the varieties we eat.
I did and they said "We update our facts regularly, what is on the label is correct". So not too helpful lol.
Actually, that is helpful. Maybe they are now using a more accurate method for measuring the calories and have corrected their labeling. If they say that what is currently on the label is correct, I would believe them and assume previous versions were inaccurate.4 -
SuzySunshine99 wrote: »Noreenmarie1234 wrote: »Why don’t you call or email the company and ask them. It’s worth a try.
I just heard a story on the news that there is a pumpkin shortage this year because of all of the excess rain in the southern states. I’m pretty sure they were referring to Jack-o-Latern pumpkins, but it probably hold true for the varieties we eat.
I did and they said "We update our facts regularly, what is on the label is correct". So not too helpful lol.
Actually, that is helpful. Maybe they are now using a more accurate method for measuring the calories and have corrected their labeling. If they say that what is currently on the label is correct, I would believe them and assume previous versions were inaccurate.
And all the other labels for other brands of canned pumpkin that agree with the previous label, and the USDA database that agrees with the old label, are all inaccurate too?1 -
lynn_glenmont wrote: »SuzySunshine99 wrote: »Noreenmarie1234 wrote: »Why don’t you call or email the company and ask them. It’s worth a try.
I just heard a story on the news that there is a pumpkin shortage this year because of all of the excess rain in the southern states. I’m pretty sure they were referring to Jack-o-Latern pumpkins, but it probably hold true for the varieties we eat.
I did and they said "We update our facts regularly, what is on the label is correct". So not too helpful lol.
Actually, that is helpful. Maybe they are now using a more accurate method for measuring the calories and have corrected their labeling. If they say that what is currently on the label is correct, I would believe them and assume previous versions were inaccurate.
And all the other labels for other brands of canned pumpkin that agree with the previous label, and the USDA database that agrees with the old label, are all inaccurate too?
Yes, this is exactly why I found it so strange!0 -
SuzySunshine99 wrote: »Noreenmarie1234 wrote: »Why don’t you call or email the company and ask them. It’s worth a try.
I just heard a story on the news that there is a pumpkin shortage this year because of all of the excess rain in the southern states. I’m pretty sure they were referring to Jack-o-Latern pumpkins, but it probably hold true for the varieties we eat.
I did and they said "We update our facts regularly, what is on the label is correct". So not too helpful lol.
Actually, that is helpful. Maybe they are now using a more accurate method for measuring the calories and have corrected their labeling. If they say that what is currently on the label is correct, I would believe them and assume previous versions were inaccurate.
If they are now accurate, I wonder if Libby and all other canned pumpkin was really wrong then as well. That is why I found it so weird because the 40-50 is standard across every other brand out there and every other source.0 -
missysippy930 wrote: »Maybe it’s real pumpkin and that’s the difference. I know a couple years ago there was a controversy about canned pumpkin really being a different type of squash in spite of what the label says. That may account for the calorie difference. 🤷🏻♀️
That is what I assumed, maybe they changed the type of pumpkin they used or something. Maybe they always used something more high calorie in the mix like acorn squash etc because they are still technically considered a "pumpkin".
Maybe they didn't calculate the nutrition for what they were really using all along. Maybe they just used the generic acceptable nutrition facts for traditional pumpkin. (Whatever type that is calculated from)0 -
joyanna2016 wrote: »So, do you just eat the pumpkin by itself?
LOL, no! I make "pumpkin pudding" by mixing 1c in with 1 box of SF jello pudding + 2c water, truvia, and cinnamon. It is delicious high volume dessert. I usually eat 2-3 bowls of this a night. Yes, I know I am strange, but I have been eating it nightly for over 10 years now, I just love it.
I also sometimes mix 1c with yogurt, truvia, cinnamon sometimes or make pumpkin oatmeal.5 -
Noreenmarie1234 wrote: »missysippy930 wrote: »Maybe it’s real pumpkin and that’s the difference. I know a couple years ago there was a controversy about canned pumpkin really being a different type of squash in spite of what the label says. That may account for the calorie difference. 🤷🏻♀️
That is what I assumed, maybe they changed the type of pumpkin they used or something. Maybe they always used something more high calorie in the mix like acorn squash etc because they are still technically considered a "pumpkin".
Maybe they didn't calculate the nutrition for what they were really using all along. Maybe they just used the generic acceptable nutrition facts for traditional pumpkin. (Whatever type that is calculated from)
Hmmm...it is a mystery...
This weekend, I was at a botanical garden where a worker was setting up a display for fall. There were all different colors and sizes of pumpkin and gourd-looking things that she was arranging. She told me they were ALL pumpkins, which are different from gourds (and a lot of other random pumpkin facts as I slowly tried to back away).
I was always under the impression that there was just one variety of pumpkin that is used for canned pumpkin, but maybe that's not the case. Maybe is it a different variety.
Or maybe some crops of pumpkins end up with a higher natural sugar content...that could affect calories.4 -
Meh. 20 calories is so minor I wouldn't spend a lot of time on this.
I mean, I use a digital food scale for lettuce, so it's not like I don't track as many calories as I possibly can, but pumpkin is such a nutritious food and you enjoy it, so I say just use the new calories and take that whopping 20 calorie hit.
I figure I make 200 calories a day in mistakes, minimum. It all works out.1 -
I'm jealous. I tried to find pumpkin puree at 2 major grocery stores this past week, neither had it in stock.0
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Pumpkin has been hard to find since March in my large metro area.
I've had the best luck buying the organic at Safeway or organic pumpkin baby food. I don't usually buy organic, but needs must.0 -
nanastaci2020 wrote: »I'm jealous. I tried to find pumpkin puree at 2 major grocery stores this past week, neither had it in stock.
I was in Trader Joe's this morning, and they had a ton of it. If you have one near you, you could check there. They might have different suppliers than other grocery stores.2 -
cmriverside wrote: »Meh. 20 calories is so minor I wouldn't spend a lot of time on this.
I mean, I use a digital food scale for lettuce, so it's not like I don't track as many calories as I possibly can, but pumpkin is such a nutritious food and you enjoy it, so I say just use the new calories and take that whopping 20 calorie hit.
I figure I make 200 calories a day in mistakes, minimum. It all works out.
But, the Nancy Drew in me wants to know WHY! Besides, I'd rather fret about this than the things I really should be worried about. 6 -
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Noreenmarie1234 wrote: »Why don’t you call or email the company and ask them. It’s worth a try.
I just heard a story on the news that there is a pumpkin shortage this year because of all of the excess rain in the southern states. I’m pretty sure they were referring to Jack-o-Latern pumpkins, but it probably hold true for the varieties we eat.
I did and they said "We update our facts regularly, what is on the label is correct". So not too helpful lol.
Have the macros changed? It would appear to me that in the past they were maybe using carbs less the fiber...if I take out the fiber and multiply 4x8 (sugars) + 4x3 (protein) I get 36 calories, which I would presume they just rounded to 40.
If I use total carbs (14x4)+(4x3) I get 68 which I presume they are rounding to 70.
Otherwise, it is possible that they had the product re-tested resulting in a different macro count and thus different calorie amount. According to a friend of mine who works in the packaged food industry, it's pretty common to regularly re-test product and usually at least every 10 years or so. With new food labeling requirements rolling out, a lot of products are being re-tested right now from what he's told me.2 -
I wonder if before, they didn't count the fiber -- and estimated the calorie total after subtracting the fiber calories.
I'm sorry if someone already mentioned this, by the way -- I am still reading through the comments!
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cwolfman13 wrote: »Noreenmarie1234 wrote: »Why don’t you call or email the company and ask them. It’s worth a try.
I just heard a story on the news that there is a pumpkin shortage this year because of all of the excess rain in the southern states. I’m pretty sure they were referring to Jack-o-Latern pumpkins, but it probably hold true for the varieties we eat.
I did and they said "We update our facts regularly, what is on the label is correct". So not too helpful lol.
Have the macros changed? It would appear to me that in the past they were maybe using carbs less the fiber...if I take out the fiber and multiply 4x8 (sugars) + 4x3 (protein) I get 36 calories, which I would presume they just rounded to 40.
If I use total carbs (14x4)+(4x3) I get 68 which I presume they are rounding to 70.
Otherwise, it is possible that they had the product re-tested resulting in a different macro count and thus different calorie amount. According to a friend of mine who works in the packaged food industry, it's pretty common to regularly re-test product and usually at least every 10 years or so. With new food labeling requirements rolling out, a lot of products are being re-tested right now from what he's told me.
Ah, yes -- It appears someone already did address this!! I am sorry - again
Great critical thinkers here, by the way.
Side note that doesn't matter: (8*4)+(3*4) would be 44 (I think..) Math class is in my past!! Haha0 -
Your recipe sounds great. I am so trying it! It would be a welcome relief from lemon yogurt pudding every night.
I do have to wonder, though. If the vet recommending I give the dogs pumpkin purée for constipation........that’s a lot of it you’re going through, my friend.1 -
No insight; just chiming in.
I have a can of Whole Foods generic pumpkin puree that is probably a few years old. The label agrees with what is currently on the website:
I may have to try it with yogurt (and pumpkin pie spice.)
I was going to say I will hoard my two cans, but realized they are in stock at my local Whole Foods.
I make Cranberry Pumpkin Muffins. I add about 1/8 navel orange (including rind):
http://www.ahealthyme.com/Library/Recipes/30,225311 -
Noreenmarie1234 wrote: »joyanna2016 wrote: »So, do you just eat the pumpkin by itself?
LOL, no! I make "pumpkin pudding" by mixing 1c in with 1 box of SF jello pudding + 2c water, truvia, and cinnamon. It is delicious high volume dessert. I usually eat 2-3 bowls of this a night. Yes, I know I am strange, but I have been eating it nightly for over 10 years now, I just love it.
I also sometimes mix 1c with yogurt, truvia, cinnamon sometimes or make pumpkin oatmeal.
Try making it with pumpkin purée, sf vanilla pudding, sugar free cool whip and 1 tsp pumpkin pie spice. I got the recipe here years ago. So good!1 -
springlering62 wrote: »Your recipe sounds great. I am so trying it! It would be a welcome relief from lemon yogurt pudding every night.
I do have to wonder, though. If the vet recommending I give the dogs pumpkin purée for constipation........that’s a lot of it you’re going through, my friend.
LOL, I have always been really regular I think my body has adjusted to my crazy high fiber intake. Imagine back in the day when I was eating 4-5 quest bars a day on top of it!
I hope you like it! It is my favorite night snack. I like it with butterscotch, white chocolate, vanilla, or cheesecake pudding the best.missysippy930 wrote: »Noreenmarie1234 wrote: »joyanna2016 wrote: »So, do you just eat the pumpkin by itself?
LOL, no! I make "pumpkin pudding" by mixing 1c in with 1 box of SF jello pudding + 2c water, truvia, and cinnamon. It is delicious high volume dessert. I usually eat 2-3 bowls of this a night. Yes, I know I am strange, but I have been eating it nightly for over 10 years now, I just love it.
I also sometimes mix 1c with yogurt, truvia, cinnamon sometimes or make pumpkin oatmeal.
Try making it with pumpkin purée, sf vanilla pudding, sugar free cool whip and 1 tsp pumpkin pie spice. I got the recipe here years ago. So good!
Yes! I add tons of cinnamon and truvia because I like it super sweet. It tastes like pumpkin pie filling to me.0 -
kshama2001 wrote: »No insight; just chiming in.
I have a can of Whole Foods generic pumpkin puree that is probably a few years old. The label agrees with what is currently on the website:
I may have to try it with yogurt (and pumpkin pie spice.)
I was going to say I will hoard my two cans, but realized they are in stock at my local Whole Foods.
I make Cranberry Pumpkin Muffins. I add about 1/8 navel orange (including rind):
http://www.ahealthyme.com/Library/Recipes/30,22531
I always add a lot of sweetener too because I have a sweet tooth. Sugar free pumpkin spice, caramel or vanilla syrup is great to add too.
Exactly, every other brand seems to agree with the previous facts.0 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »Noreenmarie1234 wrote: »Why don’t you call or email the company and ask them. It’s worth a try.
I just heard a story on the news that there is a pumpkin shortage this year because of all of the excess rain in the southern states. I’m pretty sure they were referring to Jack-o-Latern pumpkins, but it probably hold true for the varieties we eat.
I did and they said "We update our facts regularly, what is on the label is correct". So not too helpful lol.
Have the macros changed? It would appear to me that in the past they were maybe using carbs less the fiber...if I take out the fiber and multiply 4x8 (sugars) + 4x3 (protein) I get 36 calories, which I would presume they just rounded to 40.
If I use total carbs (14x4)+(4x3) I get 68 which I presume they are rounding to 70.
Otherwise, it is possible that they had the product re-tested resulting in a different macro count and thus different calorie amount. According to a friend of mine who works in the packaged food industry, it's pretty common to regularly re-test product and usually at least every 10 years or so. With new food labeling requirements rolling out, a lot of products are being re-tested right now from what he's told me.
Ahhh, that makes sense and could definitely explain it!! It seems right since it adds up to the "new" calorie count. I think this is what happened. This was the previous label.
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SuzySunshine99 wrote: »cmriverside wrote: »Meh. 20 calories is so minor I wouldn't spend a lot of time on this.
I mean, I use a digital food scale for lettuce, so it's not like I don't track as many calories as I possibly can, but pumpkin is such a nutritious food and you enjoy it, so I say just use the new calories and take that whopping 20 calorie hit.
I figure I make 200 calories a day in mistakes, minimum. It all works out.
But, the Nancy Drew in me wants to know WHY! Besides, I'd rather fret about this than the things I really should be worried about.
LOL same here, exactly the reason I made this thread! 0
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