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  • autumnblade75
    autumnblade75 Posts: 1,661 Member
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    Is there a reason you can't go to bed earlier so that you can wake early and still get enough sleep? I'll admit to skimming some of the responses, so I missed it if this was addressed.
  • paperpudding
    paperpudding Posts: 9,092 Member
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    Is there a reason you can't go to bed earlier so that you can wake early and still get enough sleep? I'll admit to skimming some of the responses, so I missed it if this was addressed.


    yes this may be a thing OP could sometimes do, or may be not ( I dont know all her life details) - but her husband has to compromise too, not all the onus be on her to change her lifestyle to make it work for him.
    Which is what your post seems to be suggesting.

  • autumnblade75
    autumnblade75 Posts: 1,661 Member
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    Is there a reason you can't go to bed earlier so that you can wake early and still get enough sleep? I'll admit to skimming some of the responses, so I missed it if this was addressed.


    yes this may be a thing OP could sometimes do, or may be not ( I dont know all her life details) - but her husband has to compromise too, not all the onus be on her to change her lifestyle to make it work for him.
    Which is what your post seems to be suggesting.

    I don't disagree that he could compromise, too. I am only asking if this is a possibility. For him to compromise, OP will need to communicate more effectively that this is a big deal. If she'd prefer to keep making all the sacrifices, at least she needn't be sleep deprived (if her lifestyle allows for an earlier bedtime).
  • autumnblade75
    autumnblade75 Posts: 1,661 Member
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    Is there a reason you can't go to bed earlier so that you can wake early and still get enough sleep? I'll admit to skimming some of the responses, so I missed it if this was addressed.

    I like this solution if it means she gets to stop doing all the other "good wife" stuff she probably does in the evening (preparing dinner, cleaning up the kitchen, maybe getting a load of laundry done, etc.) Finish work and head to bed (or drive home and head to bed if she's not #WorkingFromHome).

    Is division of labor the question, or was it "How can I be intimate on his schedule, but not sleep deprived?" I know everyone here is tackling all the women's lib issues that they've inferred - but can we consider it simply from a time management perspective?
  • autumnblade75
    autumnblade75 Posts: 1,661 Member
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    Is there a reason you can't go to bed earlier so that you can wake early and still get enough sleep? I'll admit to skimming some of the responses, so I missed it if this was addressed.

    I like this solution if it means she gets to stop doing all the other "good wife" stuff she probably does in the evening (preparing dinner, cleaning up the kitchen, maybe getting a load of laundry done, etc.) Finish work and head to bed (or drive home and head to bed if she's not #WorkingFromHome).

    Is division of labor the question, or was it "How can I be intimate on his schedule, but not sleep deprived?" I know everyone here is tackling all the women's lib issues that they've inferred - but can we consider it simply from a time management perspective?


    again you seem to be implying it is her who needs to change - her time management that needs improving.

    No I dont think the question is How can she make all the sacrifices to suit him? - or at least it shouldnt be.

    Compromise and both peoples needs being considered equally - I didnt think that was a women's lib issue, (or at least was a very basic one that we had long moved past) - just a basic relationship premise.

    I've had some time to read the rest of the thread more thoroughly, so I see more of why you feel that the husband is the one who needs to change. Maybe. We haven't heard his side of the story.

    Something certainly should change. If she's not going to be firm about her unwillingness to meet his time schedule, there's no reason to continue to do it without the full night of sleep. If she WANTS to keep cleaning the kitchen and cleaning the skidmarks from his underwear, too - she could shift that to the morning, since she's not going back to sleep, anyway. If she doesn't want to be saddled with all those traditional women's chores, she should speak up about that, too. But just to be clear, I do see that as a separate issue from trying to figure out how to keep him satisfied while still getting a good night's sleep.
  • kshama2001
    kshama2001 Posts: 27,996 Member
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    Is there a reason you can't go to bed earlier so that you can wake early and still get enough sleep? I'll admit to skimming some of the responses, so I missed it if this was addressed.

    I like this solution if it means she gets to stop doing all the other "good wife" stuff she probably does in the evening (preparing dinner, cleaning up the kitchen, maybe getting a load of laundry done, etc.) Finish work and head to bed (or drive home and head to bed if she's not #WorkingFromHome).

    Is division of labor the question, or was it "How can I be intimate on his schedule, but not sleep deprived?" I know everyone here is tackling all the women's lib issues that they've inferred - but can we consider it simply from a time management perspective?


    again you seem to be implying it is her who needs to change - her time management that needs improving.

    No I dont think the question is How can she make all the sacrifices to suit him? - or at least it shouldnt be.

    Compromise and both peoples needs being considered equally - I didnt think that was a women's lib issue, (or at least was a very basic one that we had long moved past) - just a basic relationship premise.

    I've had some time to read the rest of the thread more thoroughly, so I see more of why you feel that the husband is the one who needs to change. Maybe. We haven't heard his side of the story.

    Something certainly should change. If she's not going to be firm about her unwillingness to meet his time schedule, there's no reason to continue to do it without the full night of sleep. If she WANTS to keep cleaning the kitchen and cleaning the skidmarks from his underwear, too - she could shift that to the morning, since she's not going back to sleep, anyway. If she doesn't want to be saddled with all those traditional women's chores, she should speak up about that, too. But just to be clear, I do see that as a separate issue from trying to figure out how to keep him satisfied while still getting a good night's sleep.

    I'm female and agree that this might be able to be solved from a time management issue as well. I had been wondering why she couldn't just go to bed earlier and assumed there was a reason for it. If it's just chores, sure, those could be moved to the morning.
  • autumnblade75
    autumnblade75 Posts: 1,661 Member
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    kshama2001 wrote: »
    Is there a reason you can't go to bed earlier so that you can wake early and still get enough sleep? I'll admit to skimming some of the responses, so I missed it if this was addressed.

    I like this solution if it means she gets to stop doing all the other "good wife" stuff she probably does in the evening (preparing dinner, cleaning up the kitchen, maybe getting a load of laundry done, etc.) Finish work and head to bed (or drive home and head to bed if she's not #WorkingFromHome).

    Is division of labor the question, or was it "How can I be intimate on his schedule, but not sleep deprived?" I know everyone here is tackling all the women's lib issues that they've inferred - but can we consider it simply from a time management perspective?


    again you seem to be implying it is her who needs to change - her time management that needs improving.

    No I dont think the question is How can she make all the sacrifices to suit him? - or at least it shouldnt be.

    Compromise and both peoples needs being considered equally - I didnt think that was a women's lib issue, (or at least was a very basic one that we had long moved past) - just a basic relationship premise.

    I've had some time to read the rest of the thread more thoroughly, so I see more of why you feel that the husband is the one who needs to change. Maybe. We haven't heard his side of the story.

    Something certainly should change. If she's not going to be firm about her unwillingness to meet his time schedule, there's no reason to continue to do it without the full night of sleep. If she WANTS to keep cleaning the kitchen and cleaning the skidmarks from his underwear, too - she could shift that to the morning, since she's not going back to sleep, anyway. If she doesn't want to be saddled with all those traditional women's chores, she should speak up about that, too. But just to be clear, I do see that as a separate issue from trying to figure out how to keep him satisfied while still getting a good night's sleep.

    I'm female and agree that this might be able to be solved from a time management issue as well. I had been wondering why she couldn't just go to bed earlier and assumed there was a reason for it. If it's just chores, sure, those could be moved to the morning.

    why should it be a time management issue on her part that requires her to reorder her life? why exactly can't he do the same?

    Well, he could. If she can convince him to work in the intimacy on her schedule. I didn't see where OP asked for that, though. Whole separate issue.
  • kshama2001
    kshama2001 Posts: 27,996 Member
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    kshama2001 wrote: »
    Is there a reason you can't go to bed earlier so that you can wake early and still get enough sleep? I'll admit to skimming some of the responses, so I missed it if this was addressed.

    I like this solution if it means she gets to stop doing all the other "good wife" stuff she probably does in the evening (preparing dinner, cleaning up the kitchen, maybe getting a load of laundry done, etc.) Finish work and head to bed (or drive home and head to bed if she's not #WorkingFromHome).

    Is division of labor the question, or was it "How can I be intimate on his schedule, but not sleep deprived?" I know everyone here is tackling all the women's lib issues that they've inferred - but can we consider it simply from a time management perspective?


    again you seem to be implying it is her who needs to change - her time management that needs improving.

    No I dont think the question is How can she make all the sacrifices to suit him? - or at least it shouldnt be.

    Compromise and both peoples needs being considered equally - I didnt think that was a women's lib issue, (or at least was a very basic one that we had long moved past) - just a basic relationship premise.

    I've had some time to read the rest of the thread more thoroughly, so I see more of why you feel that the husband is the one who needs to change. Maybe. We haven't heard his side of the story.

    Something certainly should change. If she's not going to be firm about her unwillingness to meet his time schedule, there's no reason to continue to do it without the full night of sleep. If she WANTS to keep cleaning the kitchen and cleaning the skidmarks from his underwear, too - she could shift that to the morning, since she's not going back to sleep, anyway. If she doesn't want to be saddled with all those traditional women's chores, she should speak up about that, too. But just to be clear, I do see that as a separate issue from trying to figure out how to keep him satisfied while still getting a good night's sleep.

    I'm female and agree that this might be able to be solved from a time management issue as well. I had been wondering why she couldn't just go to bed earlier and assumed there was a reason for it. If it's just chores, sure, those could be moved to the morning.

    why should it be a time management issue on her part that requires her to reorder her life? why exactly can't he do the same?

    FTR, my first point on this thread was that she should have a SERIOUS talk with him and that I thought she hadn't been clear in the past.

    She sounded clear in her OP that bed time intimacy was a non-starter for him and that he is constrained by his 5 AM work start time.

    Rereading the OP I see she likes to work out in the evenings and hates working out in the AM.

    Over the decades, I've had all sorts of sleep and workout schedules. Working third shift (overnight) is now a Hard No. But I did try it for a few months. Due to his 5 AM work start, I think she should try going to bed earlier and working out in the AM for a few months. If that doesn't work, they can negotiate.
  • Diatonic12
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  • psychod787
    psychod787 Posts: 4,088 Member
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    kshama2001 wrote: »
    Is there a reason you can't go to bed earlier so that you can wake early and still get enough sleep? I'll admit to skimming some of the responses, so I missed it if this was addressed.

    I like this solution if it means she gets to stop doing all the other "good wife" stuff she probably does in the evening (preparing dinner, cleaning up the kitchen, maybe getting a load of laundry done, etc.) Finish work and head to bed (or drive home and head to bed if she's not #WorkingFromHome).

    Is division of labor the question, or was it "How can I be intimate on his schedule, but not sleep deprived?" I know everyone here is tackling all the women's lib issues that they've inferred - but can we consider it simply from a time management perspective?


    again you seem to be implying it is her who needs to change - her time management that needs improving.

    No I dont think the question is How can she make all the sacrifices to suit him? - or at least it shouldnt be.

    Compromise and both peoples needs being considered equally - I didnt think that was a women's lib issue, (or at least was a very basic one that we had long moved past) - just a basic relationship premise.

    I've had some time to read the rest of the thread more thoroughly, so I see more of why you feel that the husband is the one who needs to change. Maybe. We haven't heard his side of the story.

    Something certainly should change. If she's not going to be firm about her unwillingness to meet his time schedule, there's no reason to continue to do it without the full night of sleep. If she WANTS to keep cleaning the kitchen and cleaning the skidmarks from his underwear, too - she could shift that to the morning, since she's not going back to sleep, anyway. If she doesn't want to be saddled with all those traditional women's chores, she should speak up about that, too. But just to be clear, I do see that as a separate issue from trying to figure out how to keep him satisfied while still getting a good night's sleep.

    I'm female and agree that this might be able to be solved from a time management issue as well. I had been wondering why she couldn't just go to bed earlier and assumed there was a reason for it. If it's just chores, sure, those could be moved to the morning.

    According to medical professionals, most people need 7 to 9 hours of sleep a night. If he's waking her up at 3:30 a.m., she would need to go to bed between 6:30 and 8:30 p.m. My impression is she's working a normal day-shift schedule. Back when we were all commuting, lots of people I know were not even home by 6:30 p.m. For best sleep, it's generally recommended that you have about an hour without a lot of activity or screen time before sleep. Obviously I don't know all the specifics of her situation, but she has specifically said that exercising in the morning does not work for her. So that's pushing her back two hours from whenever she gets home before going to bed.

    So her husband is asking her to either do without a full night of rest, or to move her exercise to the morning when that doesn't work for her.

    The amount of sleep needed is very individual. Some need 5-6 and do well. Others need 7 or more....