Pcp suggested Mediterranean & plant based diet really need more ideas

So Im 41, i dont want to diet never have. I just want to learn how to eat healthy which i do know how for the most part..i lost 53 lbs last year put 30 on since covid19 down 20lbs now.my labs all cleared accept my cholesterol which was 135. My pcp suggested plant based since that lab. And earlier this year she mentioned Mediterranean diet. Now im not against it at all and being a woman with PCOS i need to make it work being thats more curable with a diabetic diet....so husband and are doing these kind of things now. Just this pass week i made quinoa blackbeans tomatoes onions hummus banana peppers and it was yum. He made cabbage with tomatoes with onions and roast. We decided to back off meat for a moment so we bought morning glory crumbles to make a sheppard pit today. I eat two cups of spinach in my eggwhites with onions.. I guess im posting for more food ideas to eat as a family..something funny when i was pregnant with my now miracle daughter who is 4 now i couldnt eat red meat or veggies. And fast-forward to now she will eat veggies on pizza or potpies or in something but not really by itself. Accept broccoli and cheese pr spinach with ranch and onions
. so this task is with her in mind. We not necessarily trying to be vegan ..just trying to be healthy while losing. I hate greens he doesn't i love zucchini he doesn't lol some of it is funny
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  • Hi. I’m 42, been vegan all my adult life. Whether you want to be vegan or not, focusing your diet mostly around plants and whole grain will only be a good thing for you and your family’s long-term health.

    Check out https://www.bluezones.com/recipes/ you’ll find Mediterranean-inspired dishes there, along with other regions. While not exclusively vegetarian or vegan, the recipes focus on the eating habits of the world’s longest lived cultures, which happen to often be plant-focused.

    Good luck changing your eating habits for a happy, healthy future. 😀

    Omg omg thank you so much i appreciate you for the link.. We have being doing it somewhat but always with meat.. Don't know if we could do full vegan or anything because id still want my fish eggwhites and cheese lol although in lactose intolerant also.. So i truly appreciate you for this information. Being in our 40s with a 4 year old we just have to keep our health up.. All 4 of our sons with the oldest being mine are 26 23 20 and 18 grown and in they are in their om world 😂 so this is important
  • kshama2001
    kshama2001 Posts: 28,052 Member
    My mom basically eats Mediterranean style and struggles to stay above Underweight as she is very very active and does not eat a lot of calorie-dense foods. Her "good" (HDL) cholesterol is high.

    There may be lots of good Mediterranean Diet cookbooks available in your library system. (My libraries are closed to the public but have contactless pickup.)

    Meanwhile, 231 recipes here:

    https://www.allrecipes.com/recipes/16704/healthy-recipes/mediterranean-diet/
  • kshama2001 wrote: »
    My mom basically eats Mediterranean style and struggles to stay above Underweight as she is very very active and does not eat a lot of calorie-dense foods. Her "good" (HDL) cholesterol is high.

    There may be lots of good Mediterranean Diet cookbooks available in your library system. (My libraries are closed to the public but have contactless pickup.)

    Meanwhile, 231 recipes here:

    https://www.allrecipes.com/recipes/16704/healthy-recipes/mediterranean-diet/

    Omg i love you for sharing this with me my good. Cholesterol was low but ldl was above it not alot... Ive been trying to find ways instead of going to aladin or revs all the time i knew i should be able to do this myself the first few recipes look yum im 5'8 trying to get to 185 i doubt if i go to low i can not het out of the 200s
  • Try Copymethat. I don't think they are in the app store any longer, but it's an app that can (in Chrome) copy any recipe off the internet with one click. I use sites like Allrecipes or blogs and when I see one that looks good, I copy it, try it and, assuming I like it, it goes into my collection of recipes.

    I like Copymethat also because I can also add in my own personal recipes to my collection. It's the best internet tool I've found, by far, to add in new, healthy recipes.

    My wife and I eat Mediterranean and try to add in Plant Based recipes all the time. We're also trying to cut out added sugar. While we both lost well over 100 lbs combined, the weight has slowly crept back on her, mostly due to her sugar addiction. The doc wants her to lose a bit of weight again.

    Hi Mike thank you so much for sharing the copymethat id love to try it i usually email my recipes to me but that would soooo help me better track them... Thank you.... This is the first time since i lost weight that hubby and i are doing this together. We made a meatless sheppard pie today with morning glory crumbles. Came out nice... Im so in love with Mediterranean style.. I want to make more foods like it.. I hope your wife doesn't give up.. I swear that 30 crept up on me also...but after 3 months im down 20lbs... 41 will not go down like this lol
  • MikePfirrman
    MikePfirrman Posts: 3,307 Member
    edited November 2020
    Nykeyacox wrote: »
    Try Copymethat. I don't think they are in the app store any longer, but it's an app that can (in Chrome) copy any recipe off the internet with one click. I use sites like Allrecipes or blogs and when I see one that looks good, I copy it, try it and, assuming I like it, it goes into my collection of recipes.

    I like Copymethat also because I can also add in my own personal recipes to my collection. It's the best internet tool I've found, by far, to add in new, healthy recipes.

    My wife and I eat Mediterranean and try to add in Plant Based recipes all the time. We're also trying to cut out added sugar. While we both lost well over 100 lbs combined, the weight has slowly crept back on her, mostly due to her sugar addiction. The doc wants her to lose a bit of weight again.

    Hi Mike thank you so much for sharing the copymethat id love to try it i usually email my recipes to me but that would soooo help me better track them... Thank you.... This is the first time since i lost weight that hubby and i are doing this together. We made a meatless sheppard pie today with morning glory crumbles. Came out nice... Im so in love with Mediterranean style.. I want to make more foods like it.. I hope your wife doesn't give up.. I swear that 30 crept up on me also...but after 3 months im down 20lbs... 41 will not go down like this lol

    Oh, she won't give up. She's a fighter. Thank you.

    If you load it, you'll likely have to use a Chrome browser, then go to copymethat.com and sign up. Since it's not in the app store any longer, that's how you have to do it now. With one click (in the Chrome browser), you can copy any recipe to your collection. It's so user friendly. Even expensive apps that charge don't rival this.

    They have a premium and it's like $25 for a lifetime (super cheap) and helps with meal planning and shopping lists.

    Some other ideas -- Oh She Glows Cookbook is wonderful (the one with the carrots on the cover). My favorite plant based (and gluten/dairy free) cookbook. Ambitious Kitchen (a blogger) is another favorite of mine. Her Thai Cashew Quinoa Salad is to die for. Amazing. I also like Minimalist Baker's blog a lot. She's also very healthy with all her recipes.

    There's a FB group too for Mediterranean as well. Remember, Mediterranean isn't about all Med flavors, it's more about what you're not eating -- overly processed foods, refined grains, red meats, fried foods. It's more about the style of cooking than eating Italian and Greek. That Thai Quinoa Salad is very Mediterranean Diet -- lots of whole grains, fresh veggies, EVOO and fresh lime juice.
  • Nykeyacox wrote: »
    Try Copymethat. I don't think they are in the app store any longer, but it's an app that can (in Chrome) copy any recipe off the internet with one click. I use sites like Allrecipes or blogs and when I see one that looks good, I copy it, try it and, assuming I like it, it goes into my collection of recipes.

    I like Copymethat also because I can also add in my own personal recipes to my collection. It's the best internet tool I've found, by far, to add in new, healthy recipes.

    My wife and I eat Mediterranean and try to add in Plant Based recipes all the time. We're also trying to cut out added sugar. While we both lost well over 100 lbs combined, the weight has slowly crept back on her, mostly due to her sugar addiction. The doc wants her to lose a bit of weight again.

    Hi Mike thank you so much for sharing the copymethat id love to try it i usually email my recipes to me but that would soooo help me better track them... Thank you.... This is the first time since i lost weight that hubby and i are doing this together. We made a meatless sheppard pie today with morning glory crumbles. Came out nice... Im so in love with Mediterranean style.. I want to make more foods like it.. I hope your wife doesn't give up.. I swear that 30 crept up on me also...but after 3 months im down 20lbs... 41 will not go down like this lol

    Oh, she won't give up. She's a fighter. Thank you.

    If you load it, you'll likely have to use a Chrome browser, then go to copymethat.com and sign up. Since it's not in the app store any longer, that's how you have to do it now. With one click (in the Chrome browser), you can copy any recipe to your collection. It's so user friendly. Even expensive apps that charge don't rival this.

    They have a premium and it's like $25 for a lifetime (super cheap) and helps with meal planning and shopping lists.

    Some other ideas -- Oh She Glows Cookbook is wonderful (the one with the carrots on the cover). My favorite plant based (and gluten/dairy free) cookbook. Ambitious Kitchen (a blogger) is another favorite of mine. Her Thai Cashew Quinoa Salad is to die for. Amazing. I also like Minimalist Baker's blog a lot. She's also very healthy with all her recipes.

    There's a FB group too for Mediterranean as well. Remember, Mediterranean isn't about all Med flavors, it's more about what you're not eating -- overly processed foods, refined grains, red meats, fried foods. It's more about the style of cooking than eating Italian and Greek. That Thai Quinoa Salad is very Mediterranean Diet -- lots of whole grains, fresh veggies, EVOO and fresh lime juice.

    OH my word i appreciate you so much for taking the time to provide all this information for me... I will so try to find the Thai Cashew Quinoa Salad. I have only experience ALadins and Rev Mediterranean so i have now tapped into anything else out there. Im somewhat a picky eater so when i found something i liked at these two places the flavors were mind boggling. So i mean no disrespect in how i am referring to the Diet. I just know its healthy items that i enjoy and i would like to learn how to turn it into a dish. Im kind of on a budget although i am married we are a one income household as my husband has medical issues Depression being one of them, So he has been out of work since 2015. So its hurtful to learn if you want to be healthy it cost so much to do it. But anything i can find on line will suit me so i will look on facebook also to find this group. THank you so much from the bottom of my heart
  • snowflake954
    snowflake954 Posts: 8,399 Member
    Nykeyacox wrote: »
    Try Copymethat. I don't think they are in the app store any longer, but it's an app that can (in Chrome) copy any recipe off the internet with one click. I use sites like Allrecipes or blogs and when I see one that looks good, I copy it, try it and, assuming I like it, it goes into my collection of recipes.

    I like Copymethat also because I can also add in my own personal recipes to my collection. It's the best internet tool I've found, by far, to add in new, healthy recipes.

    My wife and I eat Mediterranean and try to add in Plant Based recipes all the time. We're also trying to cut out added sugar. While we both lost well over 100 lbs combined, the weight has slowly crept back on her, mostly due to her sugar addiction. The doc wants her to lose a bit of weight again.

    Hi Mike thank you so much for sharing the copymethat id love to try it i usually email my recipes to me but that would soooo help me better track them... Thank you.... This is the first time since i lost weight that hubby and i are doing this together. We made a meatless sheppard pie today with morning glory crumbles. Came out nice... Im so in love with Mediterranean style.. I want to make more foods like it.. I hope your wife doesn't give up.. I swear that 30 crept up on me also...but after 3 months im down 20lbs... 41 will not go down like this lol

    Oh, she won't give up. She's a fighter. Thank you.

    If you load it, you'll likely have to use a Chrome browser, then go to copymethat.com and sign up. Since it's not in the app store any longer, that's how you have to do it now. With one click (in the Chrome browser), you can copy any recipe to your collection. It's so user friendly. Even expensive apps that charge don't rival this.

    They have a premium and it's like $25 for a lifetime (super cheap) and helps with meal planning and shopping lists.

    Some other ideas -- Oh She Glows Cookbook is wonderful (the one with the carrots on the cover). My favorite plant based (and gluten/dairy free) cookbook. Ambitious Kitchen (a blogger) is another favorite of mine. Her Thai Cashew Quinoa Salad is to die for. Amazing. I also like Minimalist Baker's blog a lot. She's also very healthy with all her recipes.

    There's a FB group too for Mediterranean as well. Remember, Mediterranean isn't about all Med flavors, it's more about what you're not eating -- overly processed foods, refined grains, red meats, fried foods. It's more about the style of cooking than eating Italian and Greek. That Thai Quinoa Salad is very Mediterranean Diet -- lots of whole grains, fresh veggies, EVOO and fresh lime juice.

    I beg to differ Mike--I live in Italy. The Med diet is UNESCO sponsered. You can change it up anyway you want, eat Asian, Cuban, South American, and eat healthily, but it's not Mediterranean.
  • Oliveciabatta
    Oliveciabatta Posts: 294 Member
    Anytime I'm in the med I'm always shocked how much fish and seafood they eat. There's the fresh tomatoes and fruit and vegetables we think of straight away but it still gets me the huge variety of fish on offer.
  • lemurcat2
    lemurcat2 Posts: 7,885 Member
    edited November 2020
    Nykeyacox wrote: »
    Try Copymethat. I don't think they are in the app store any longer, but it's an app that can (in Chrome) copy any recipe off the internet with one click. I use sites like Allrecipes or blogs and when I see one that looks good, I copy it, try it and, assuming I like it, it goes into my collection of recipes.

    I like Copymethat also because I can also add in my own personal recipes to my collection. It's the best internet tool I've found, by far, to add in new, healthy recipes.

    My wife and I eat Mediterranean and try to add in Plant Based recipes all the time. We're also trying to cut out added sugar. While we both lost well over 100 lbs combined, the weight has slowly crept back on her, mostly due to her sugar addiction. The doc wants her to lose a bit of weight again.

    Hi Mike thank you so much for sharing the copymethat id love to try it i usually email my recipes to me but that would soooo help me better track them... Thank you.... This is the first time since i lost weight that hubby and i are doing this together. We made a meatless sheppard pie today with morning glory crumbles. Came out nice... Im so in love with Mediterranean style.. I want to make more foods like it.. I hope your wife doesn't give up.. I swear that 30 crept up on me also...but after 3 months im down 20lbs... 41 will not go down like this lol

    Oh, she won't give up. She's a fighter. Thank you.

    If you load it, you'll likely have to use a Chrome browser, then go to copymethat.com and sign up. Since it's not in the app store any longer, that's how you have to do it now. With one click (in the Chrome browser), you can copy any recipe to your collection. It's so user friendly. Even expensive apps that charge don't rival this.

    They have a premium and it's like $25 for a lifetime (super cheap) and helps with meal planning and shopping lists.

    Some other ideas -- Oh She Glows Cookbook is wonderful (the one with the carrots on the cover). My favorite plant based (and gluten/dairy free) cookbook. Ambitious Kitchen (a blogger) is another favorite of mine. Her Thai Cashew Quinoa Salad is to die for. Amazing. I also like Minimalist Baker's blog a lot. She's also very healthy with all her recipes.

    There's a FB group too for Mediterranean as well. Remember, Mediterranean isn't about all Med flavors, it's more about what you're not eating -- overly processed foods, refined grains, red meats, fried foods. It's more about the style of cooking than eating Italian and Greek. That Thai Quinoa Salad is very Mediterranean Diet -- lots of whole grains, fresh veggies, EVOO and fresh lime juice.

    I beg to differ Mike--I live in Italy. The Med diet is UNESCO sponsered. You can change it up anyway you want, eat Asian, Cuban, South American, and eat healthily, but it's not Mediterranean.

    Agreed. Med is about specific ingredients and foods common in the Mediterranean. One can eat healthfully (blue zones type diet is what I think we are really talking about) with local foods from anywhere, but I wouldn't call Thai food or quinoa Mediterranean. I eat according to blue zones principles mostly, and somewhat Med, but in that my location and climate is far from the Mediterranean (Chicago), I don't eat a Med diet. I do use lots of olives and olive oil, but also cook with butter, avocado oil, and coconut oil, for example. And I eat lots of avocados and try to eat locally when possible (we are almost out of that season), but again this climate is not Med and has other food patterns, and I don't mean non home cooking, as I normally cook at home from mostly whole foods.

    Cool site: https://oldwayspt.org/traditional-diets

    I eat a ton of fish, but more commonly salmon, trout, halibut, and Alaskan cod (I grew up in AK).
  • Oliveciabatta
    Oliveciabatta Posts: 294 Member
    The butter oil thing. It seems there is a definite north/south European spilt on this. Everywhere north of Germany eats butter, everywhere South of Germany, olive oil.

    Maybe try adding some more unusual fish prawns, squid, shellfish? In Portugal and Spain salt cod is practically a kitchen staple.
  • lynn_glenmont
    lynn_glenmont Posts: 10,093 Member
    xtineart wrote: »
    The butter oil thing. It seems there is a definite north/south European spilt on this. Everywhere north of Germany eats butter, everywhere South of Germany, olive oil.

    Maybe try adding some more unusual fish prawns, squid, shellfish? In Portugal and Spain salt cod is practically a kitchen staple.

    Not surprising. Olive trees aren't native to northern Europe. Also, historically, lots of lard and other animal carcass fats in the cooking of more northern parts of Europe, as opposed to just butter.
  • Nykeyacox wrote: »
    Try Copymethat. I don't think they are in the app store any longer, but it's an app that can (in Chrome) copy any recipe off the internet with one click. I use sites like Allrecipes or blogs and when I see one that looks good, I copy it, try it and, assuming I like it, it goes into my collection of recipes.

    I like Copymethat also because I can also add in my own personal recipes to my collection. It's the best internet tool I've found, by far, to add in new, healthy recipes.

    My wife and I eat Mediterranean and try to add in Plant Based recipes all the time. We're also trying to cut out added sugar. While we both lost well over 100 lbs combined, the weight has slowly crept back on her, mostly due to her sugar addiction. The doc wants her to lose a bit of weight again.

    Hi Mike thank you so much for sharing the copymethat id love to try it i usually email my recipes to me but that would soooo help me better track them... Thank you.... This is the first time since i lost weight that hubby and i are doing this together. We made a meatless sheppard pie today with morning glory crumbles. Came out nice... Im so in love with Mediterranean style.. I want to make more foods like it.. I hope your wife doesn't give up.. I swear that 30 crept up on me also...but after 3 months im down 20lbs... 41 will not go down like this lol

    Oh, she won't give up. She's a fighter. Thank you.

    If you load it, you'll likely have to use a Chrome browser, then go to copymethat.com and sign up. Since it's not in the app store any longer, that's how you have to do it now. With one click (in the Chrome browser), you can copy any recipe to your collection. It's so user friendly. Even expensive apps that charge don't rival this.

    They have a premium and it's like $25 for a lifetime (super cheap) and helps with meal planning and shopping lists.

    Some other ideas -- Oh She Glows Cookbook is wonderful (the one with the carrots on the cover). My favorite plant based (and gluten/dairy free) cookbook. Ambitious Kitchen (a blogger) is another favorite of mine. Her Thai Cashew Quinoa Salad is to die for. Amazing. I also like Minimalist Baker's blog a lot. She's also very healthy with all her recipes.

    There's a FB group too for Mediterranean as well. Remember, Mediterranean isn't about all Med flavors, it's more about what you're not eating -- overly processed foods, refined grains, red meats, fried foods. It's more about the style of cooking than eating Italian and Greek. That Thai Quinoa Salad is very Mediterranean Diet -- lots of whole grains, fresh veggies, EVOO and fresh lime juice.

    I beg to differ Mike--I live in Italy. The Med diet is UNESCO sponsered. You can change it up anyway you want, eat Asian, Cuban, South American, and eat healthily, but it's not Mediterranean.

    I appreciate your comment Snow flake,,,, With the thought that i have to try to eat plant based or really i want to learn how to make some awesome dishes with the same flavors ive had from the two places but im so open to just learning to make healthy flavorable dishes, until i went to the places i didnt know i would like Tomatoes cucumbers hummus red onions blackbeans ,, so really i just want to learn this stuff lol ,, Ive made a nice Quinoa dish recently that i just listed in this i believe,,, ive made a stuffed zucchini before to but now we have been trying morning glory meatless stuff as well
  • lemurcat2 wrote: »
    Nykeyacox wrote: »
    Try Copymethat. I don't think they are in the app store any longer, but it's an app that can (in Chrome) copy any recipe off the internet with one click. I use sites like Allrecipes or blogs and when I see one that looks good, I copy it, try it and, assuming I like it, it goes into my collection of recipes.

    I like Copymethat also because I can also add in my own personal recipes to my collection. It's the best internet tool I've found, by far, to add in new, healthy recipes.

    My wife and I eat Mediterranean and try to add in Plant Based recipes all the time. We're also trying to cut out added sugar. While we both lost well over 100 lbs combined, the weight has slowly crept back on her, mostly due to her sugar addiction. The doc wants her to lose a bit of weight again.

    Hi Mike thank you so much for sharing the copymethat id love to try it i usually email my recipes to me but that would soooo help me better track them... Thank you.... This is the first time since i lost weight that hubby and i are doing this together. We made a meatless sheppard pie today with morning glory crumbles. Came out nice... Im so in love with Mediterranean style.. I want to make more foods like it.. I hope your wife doesn't give up.. I swear that 30 crept up on me also...but after 3 months im down 20lbs... 41 will not go down like this lol

    Oh, she won't give up. She's a fighter. Thank you.

    If you load it, you'll likely have to use a Chrome browser, then go to copymethat.com and sign up. Since it's not in the app store any longer, that's how you have to do it now. With one click (in the Chrome browser), you can copy any recipe to your collection. It's so user friendly. Even expensive apps that charge don't rival this.

    They have a premium and it's like $25 for a lifetime (super cheap) and helps with meal planning and shopping lists.

    Some other ideas -- Oh She Glows Cookbook is wonderful (the one with the carrots on the cover). My favorite plant based (and gluten/dairy free) cookbook. Ambitious Kitchen (a blogger) is another favorite of mine. Her Thai Cashew Quinoa Salad is to die for. Amazing. I also like Minimalist Baker's blog a lot. She's also very healthy with all her recipes.

    There's a FB group too for Mediterranean as well. Remember, Mediterranean isn't about all Med flavors, it's more about what you're not eating -- overly processed foods, refined grains, red meats, fried foods. It's more about the style of cooking than eating Italian and Greek. That Thai Quinoa Salad is very Mediterranean Diet -- lots of whole grains, fresh veggies, EVOO and fresh lime juice.

    I beg to differ Mike--I live in Italy. The Med diet is UNESCO sponsered. You can change it up anyway you want, eat Asian, Cuban, South American, and eat healthily, but it's not Mediterranean.

    Agreed. Med is about specific ingredients and foods common in the Mediterranean. One can eat healthfully (blue zones type diet is what I think we are really talking about) with local foods from anywhere, but I wouldn't call Thai food or quinoa Mediterranean. I eat according to blue zones principles mostly, and somewhat Med, but in that my location and climate is far from the Mediterranean (Chicago), I don't eat a Med diet. I do use lots of olives and olive oil, but also cook with butter, avocado oil, and coconut oil, for example. And I eat lots of avocados and try to eat locally when possible (we are almost out of that season), but again this climate is not Med and has other food patterns, and I don't mean non home cooking, as I normally cook at home from mostly whole foods.

    Cool site: https://oldwayspt.org/traditional-diets

    I eat a ton of fish, but more commonly salmon, trout, halibut, and Alaskan cod (I grew up in AK).

    I am kind of a picky eater but id love the cod, Salmon ive been scared of it seems to fish and i like haddock but never had the others listed i doubt i would because i dont like catfish,,,, I cook with butter and olive oil i never tried the other oils you mention... Im back of red meats and pork a bit and now that i came to my senses i am back off of fried foods
  • xtineart wrote: »
    The butter oil thing. It seems there is a definite north/south European spilt on this. Everywhere north of Germany eats butter, everywhere South of Germany, olive oil.

    Maybe try adding some more unusual fish prawns, squid, shellfish? In Portugal and Spain salt cod is practically a kitchen staple.

    I like cooking with butt lol although i guess thats america issue and why most over weight with Fried food but i try to use light butter.....Oh gosh i so have to google Fish prawns ,,, only shell fish i eat is shrimp but ive been trying to back off since its high in sodium
  • MikePfirrman
    MikePfirrman Posts: 3,307 Member
    edited November 2020
    lemurcat2 wrote: »
    Nykeyacox wrote: »
    Try Copymethat. I don't think they are in the app store any longer, but it's an app that can (in Chrome) copy any recipe off the internet with one click. I use sites like Allrecipes or blogs and when I see one that looks good, I copy it, try it and, assuming I like it, it goes into my collection of recipes.

    I like Copymethat also because I can also add in my own personal recipes to my collection. It's the best internet tool I've found, by far, to add in new, healthy recipes.

    My wife and I eat Mediterranean and try to add in Plant Based recipes all the time. We're also trying to cut out added sugar. While we both lost well over 100 lbs combined, the weight has slowly crept back on her, mostly due to her sugar addiction. The doc wants her to lose a bit of weight again.

    Hi Mike thank you so much for sharing the copymethat id love to try it i usually email my recipes to me but that would soooo help me better track them... Thank you.... This is the first time since i lost weight that hubby and i are doing this together. We made a meatless sheppard pie today with morning glory crumbles. Came out nice... Im so in love with Mediterranean style.. I want to make more foods like it.. I hope your wife doesn't give up.. I swear that 30 crept up on me also...but after 3 months im down 20lbs... 41 will not go down like this lol

    Oh, she won't give up. She's a fighter. Thank you.

    If you load it, you'll likely have to use a Chrome browser, then go to copymethat.com and sign up. Since it's not in the app store any longer, that's how you have to do it now. With one click (in the Chrome browser), you can copy any recipe to your collection. It's so user friendly. Even expensive apps that charge don't rival this.

    They have a premium and it's like $25 for a lifetime (super cheap) and helps with meal planning and shopping lists.

    Some other ideas -- Oh She Glows Cookbook is wonderful (the one with the carrots on the cover). My favorite plant based (and gluten/dairy free) cookbook. Ambitious Kitchen (a blogger) is another favorite of mine. Her Thai Cashew Quinoa Salad is to die for. Amazing. I also like Minimalist Baker's blog a lot. She's also very healthy with all her recipes.

    There's a FB group too for Mediterranean as well. Remember, Mediterranean isn't about all Med flavors, it's more about what you're not eating -- overly processed foods, refined grains, red meats, fried foods. It's more about the style of cooking than eating Italian and Greek. That Thai Quinoa Salad is very Mediterranean Diet -- lots of whole grains, fresh veggies, EVOO and fresh lime juice.

    I beg to differ Mike--I live in Italy. The Med diet is UNESCO sponsered. You can change it up anyway you want, eat Asian, Cuban, South American, and eat healthily, but it's not Mediterranean.

    Agreed. Med is about specific ingredients and foods common in the Mediterranean. One can eat healthfully (blue zones type diet is what I think we are really talking about) with local foods from anywhere, but I wouldn't call Thai food or quinoa Mediterranean. I eat according to blue zones principles mostly, and somewhat Med, but in that my location and climate is far from the Mediterranean (Chicago), I don't eat a Med diet. I do use lots of olives and olive oil, but also cook with butter, avocado oil, and coconut oil, for example. And I eat lots of avocados and try to eat locally when possible (we are almost out of that season), but again this climate is not Med and has other food patterns, and I don't mean non home cooking, as I normally cook at home from mostly whole foods.

    Cool site: https://oldwayspt.org/traditional-diets

    I eat a ton of fish, but more commonly salmon, trout, halibut, and Alaskan cod (I grew up in AK).

    I respectfully disagree. The Thai quinoa salad I make is entirely from EVOO, fresh veggies and the exact bottom of the pyramid on the Oldways site. There is absolutely nothing on that site that says that the ingredients, such as nuts, legumes, vegetables have to be of a certain variety. If there is, I'd love to see it.

    EVOO, cashews, quinoa (a seed), red pepper, chick peas, green onion, red onion, Rice Wine Vinegar, peanut butter (legume), kale, lime juice. I add honey to the dressing.

    Here's one recipe on Oldways site that is similar to what the Thai Quinoa Salad is and it's listed, by Oldways, as a Mediterranean Diet compliant recipe.

    https://oldwayspt.org/recipes/tomatoes-stuffed-peanut-quinoa

    Regardless if it's legit enough Mediterranean for some, eating high volumes of vegetables, EVOO, less red meat (and less meat in general), more fiber, more nuts and whole grains along with fresh fruit is the concept. If you do that, you'll be great whether or not you consider that Mediterranean compliant. But it is certainly plant based either way.

    Here's that recipe. I add some chopped kale to it and sweeten with Maple Syrup usually.

    https://www.ambitiouskitchen.com/crunchy-cashew-thai-quinoa-salad-with-ginger-peanut-dressing/
  • snowflake954
    snowflake954 Posts: 8,399 Member
    Nykeyacox wrote: »
    Try Copymethat. I don't think they are in the app store any longer, but it's an app that can (in Chrome) copy any recipe off the internet with one click. I use sites like Allrecipes or blogs and when I see one that looks good, I copy it, try it and, assuming I like it, it goes into my collection of recipes.

    I like Copymethat also because I can also add in my own personal recipes to my collection. It's the best internet tool I've found, by far, to add in new, healthy recipes.

    My wife and I eat Mediterranean and try to add in Plant Based recipes all the time. We're also trying to cut out added sugar. While we both lost well over 100 lbs combined, the weight has slowly crept back on her, mostly due to her sugar addiction. The doc wants her to lose a bit of weight again.

    Hi Mike thank you so much for sharing the copymethat id love to try it i usually email my recipes to me but that would soooo help me better track them... Thank you.... This is the first time since i lost weight that hubby and i are doing this together. We made a meatless sheppard pie today with morning glory crumbles. Came out nice... Im so in love with Mediterranean style.. I want to make more foods like it.. I hope your wife doesn't give up.. I swear that 30 crept up on me also...but after 3 months im down 20lbs... 41 will not go down like this lol

    Oh, she won't give up. She's a fighter. Thank you.

    If you load it, you'll likely have to use a Chrome browser, then go to copymethat.com and sign up. Since it's not in the app store any longer, that's how you have to do it now. With one click (in the Chrome browser), you can copy any recipe to your collection. It's so user friendly. Even expensive apps that charge don't rival this.

    They have a premium and it's like $25 for a lifetime (super cheap) and helps with meal planning and shopping lists.

    Some other ideas -- Oh She Glows Cookbook is wonderful (the one with the carrots on the cover). My favorite plant based (and gluten/dairy free) cookbook. Ambitious Kitchen (a blogger) is another favorite of mine. Her Thai Cashew Quinoa Salad is to die for. Amazing. I also like Minimalist Baker's blog a lot. She's also very healthy with all her recipes.

    There's a FB group too for Mediterranean as well. Remember, Mediterranean isn't about all Med flavors, it's more about what you're not eating -- overly processed foods, refined grains, red meats, fried foods. It's more about the style of cooking than eating Italian and Greek. That Thai Quinoa Salad is very Mediterranean Diet -- lots of whole grains, fresh veggies, EVOO and fresh lime juice.

    Well then why is it called "Thai" Quinoa Salad? And what is this "Remember, Mediterranean isn't about all Med flavors"? Who is making this stuff up? Talk to your Italian friends and ask what they think. You are making up your own Med diet. Call it something else. Italians are VERY proud of the Mediterranean diet. Nobody here asks how to do it. Even children know what to eat here. There's a cartoon I was watching with my grandson today called "Trulli Tales" with children cooking and talking about flavors--those lovely Med flavors.
  • lemurcat2
    lemurcat2 Posts: 7,885 Member
    The Mediterranean region is extremely diverse, but it does contain a collection of specific cuisines based on historical ways of eating and local ingredients. I don't consider it respectful to twist the term to mean basically a kind of healthy way of eating, no matter what cultural dishes and ingredients are involved.

    One can eat healthfully of course without one actually eating dishes that come culturally from some part of the Mediterranean. I think what you are talking about I would call a blue zones pattern of eating or simply a standard, basic healthy way of eating. It sounds more like the healthy eating pattern recommended by the Dietary Guidelines or the Harvard healthy eating pyramid, and--again--not specifically Mediterranean. It's how I eat too, and I expect it's really what the doctor was recommending. I again just don't see why one would want to claim dishes that have nothing to do with any traditional Mediterranean based cuisines to be Mediterranean.
  • lemurcat2
    lemurcat2 Posts: 7,885 Member
    edited November 2020
    Nykeyacox wrote: »
    lemurcat2 wrote: »
    Nykeyacox wrote: »
    Try Copymethat. I don't think they are in the app store any longer, but it's an app that can (in Chrome) copy any recipe off the internet with one click. I use sites like Allrecipes or blogs and when I see one that looks good, I copy it, try it and, assuming I like it, it goes into my collection of recipes.

    I like Copymethat also because I can also add in my own personal recipes to my collection. It's the best internet tool I've found, by far, to add in new, healthy recipes.

    My wife and I eat Mediterranean and try to add in Plant Based recipes all the time. We're also trying to cut out added sugar. While we both lost well over 100 lbs combined, the weight has slowly crept back on her, mostly due to her sugar addiction. The doc wants her to lose a bit of weight again.

    Hi Mike thank you so much for sharing the copymethat id love to try it i usually email my recipes to me but that would soooo help me better track them... Thank you.... This is the first time since i lost weight that hubby and i are doing this together. We made a meatless sheppard pie today with morning glory crumbles. Came out nice... Im so in love with Mediterranean style.. I want to make more foods like it.. I hope your wife doesn't give up.. I swear that 30 crept up on me also...but after 3 months im down 20lbs... 41 will not go down like this lol

    Oh, she won't give up. She's a fighter. Thank you.

    If you load it, you'll likely have to use a Chrome browser, then go to copymethat.com and sign up. Since it's not in the app store any longer, that's how you have to do it now. With one click (in the Chrome browser), you can copy any recipe to your collection. It's so user friendly. Even expensive apps that charge don't rival this.

    They have a premium and it's like $25 for a lifetime (super cheap) and helps with meal planning and shopping lists.

    Some other ideas -- Oh She Glows Cookbook is wonderful (the one with the carrots on the cover). My favorite plant based (and gluten/dairy free) cookbook. Ambitious Kitchen (a blogger) is another favorite of mine. Her Thai Cashew Quinoa Salad is to die for. Amazing. I also like Minimalist Baker's blog a lot. She's also very healthy with all her recipes.

    There's a FB group too for Mediterranean as well. Remember, Mediterranean isn't about all Med flavors, it's more about what you're not eating -- overly processed foods, refined grains, red meats, fried foods. It's more about the style of cooking than eating Italian and Greek. That Thai Quinoa Salad is very Mediterranean Diet -- lots of whole grains, fresh veggies, EVOO and fresh lime juice.

    I beg to differ Mike--I live in Italy. The Med diet is UNESCO sponsered. You can change it up anyway you want, eat Asian, Cuban, South American, and eat healthily, but it's not Mediterranean.

    Agreed. Med is about specific ingredients and foods common in the Mediterranean. One can eat healthfully (blue zones type diet is what I think we are really talking about) with local foods from anywhere, but I wouldn't call Thai food or quinoa Mediterranean. I eat according to blue zones principles mostly, and somewhat Med, but in that my location and climate is far from the Mediterranean (Chicago), I don't eat a Med diet. I do use lots of olives and olive oil, but also cook with butter, avocado oil, and coconut oil, for example. And I eat lots of avocados and try to eat locally when possible (we are almost out of that season), but again this climate is not Med and has other food patterns, and I don't mean non home cooking, as I normally cook at home from mostly whole foods.

    Cool site: https://oldwayspt.org/traditional-diets

    I eat a ton of fish, but more commonly salmon, trout, halibut, and Alaskan cod (I grew up in AK).

    I am kind of a picky eater but id love the cod, Salmon ive been scared of it seems to fish and i like haddock but never had the others listed i doubt i would because i dont like catfish,,,, I cook with butter and olive oil i never tried the other oils you mention... Im back of red meats and pork a bit and now that i came to my senses i am back off of fried foods

    None of the fishes I mentioned are anything like catfish. I recommend trying some trout--you might be surprised.
  • MikePfirrman
    MikePfirrman Posts: 3,307 Member
    edited November 2020
    Nykeyacox wrote: »
    Try Copymethat. I don't think they are in the app store any longer, but it's an app that can (in Chrome) copy any recipe off the internet with one click. I use sites like Allrecipes or blogs and when I see one that looks good, I copy it, try it and, assuming I like it, it goes into my collection of recipes.

    I like Copymethat also because I can also add in my own personal recipes to my collection. It's the best internet tool I've found, by far, to add in new, healthy recipes.

    My wife and I eat Mediterranean and try to add in Plant Based recipes all the time. We're also trying to cut out added sugar. While we both lost well over 100 lbs combined, the weight has slowly crept back on her, mostly due to her sugar addiction. The doc wants her to lose a bit of weight again.

    Hi Mike thank you so much for sharing the copymethat id love to try it i usually email my recipes to me but that would soooo help me better track them... Thank you.... This is the first time since i lost weight that hubby and i are doing this together. We made a meatless sheppard pie today with morning glory crumbles. Came out nice... Im so in love with Mediterranean style.. I want to make more foods like it.. I hope your wife doesn't give up.. I swear that 30 crept up on me also...but after 3 months im down 20lbs... 41 will not go down like this lol

    Oh, she won't give up. She's a fighter. Thank you.

    If you load it, you'll likely have to use a Chrome browser, then go to copymethat.com and sign up. Since it's not in the app store any longer, that's how you have to do it now. With one click (in the Chrome browser), you can copy any recipe to your collection. It's so user friendly. Even expensive apps that charge don't rival this.

    They have a premium and it's like $25 for a lifetime (super cheap) and helps with meal planning and shopping lists.

    Some other ideas -- Oh She Glows Cookbook is wonderful (the one with the carrots on the cover). My favorite plant based (and gluten/dairy free) cookbook. Ambitious Kitchen (a blogger) is another favorite of mine. Her Thai Cashew Quinoa Salad is to die for. Amazing. I also like Minimalist Baker's blog a lot. She's also very healthy with all her recipes.

    There's a FB group too for Mediterranean as well. Remember, Mediterranean isn't about all Med flavors, it's more about what you're not eating -- overly processed foods, refined grains, red meats, fried foods. It's more about the style of cooking than eating Italian and Greek. That Thai Quinoa Salad is very Mediterranean Diet -- lots of whole grains, fresh veggies, EVOO and fresh lime juice.

    Well then why is it called "Thai" Quinoa Salad? And what is this "Remember, Mediterranean isn't about all Med flavors"? Who is making this stuff up? Talk to your Italian friends and ask what they think. You are making up your own Med diet. Call it something else. Italians are VERY proud of the Mediterranean diet. Nobody here asks how to do it. Even children know what to eat here. There's a cartoon I was watching with my grandson today called "Trulli Tales" with children cooking and talking about flavors--those lovely Med flavors.

    Again, I still respectfully disagree. If you want to start getting that picky, historically, Italy only had goat, sheep and A2/A2 cows. Northern Europe is where the A2/A1 genetic variant came in. So technically, if Italian cow cheese isn't A2/A2, it's not really historically Mediterranean. I get that the Med region markets itself as things grown here or from here, but even that isn't 100% accurate. Kraft Mozz cheese is worlds away from historic Italian cheese. Greece only ate sheep and goat cheese. Cow feta is an absolute abomination, but it's mainly what we have here in the US.

    The Mediterranean region also includes North Africa, Greece, Turkey, Spain, Lebanese (my favorite) and others. To me, style is more important. But to each their own.

    I'd rather be clearer, to the OP, that what you eat is more important than if it's considered Italian or not. And when a doc says, "eat more Mediterranean...", they are more concerned with substance than details of what part of the world the food comes from.
  • snowflake954
    snowflake954 Posts: 8,399 Member
    She's my favorite. I make this all the time!
    https://youtu.be/lGX8m8lAzOs

    Actually this is very close to how we cook here. The idea is simple flavors. OP you can use this recipe and if you don't like eggplant, substitute zucchini.
  • snowflake954
    snowflake954 Posts: 8,399 Member
    Nykeyacox wrote: »
    Try Copymethat. I don't think they are in the app store any longer, but it's an app that can (in Chrome) copy any recipe off the internet with one click. I use sites like Allrecipes or blogs and when I see one that looks good, I copy it, try it and, assuming I like it, it goes into my collection of recipes.

    I like Copymethat also because I can also add in my own personal recipes to my collection. It's the best internet tool I've found, by far, to add in new, healthy recipes.

    My wife and I eat Mediterranean and try to add in Plant Based recipes all the time. We're also trying to cut out added sugar. While we both lost well over 100 lbs combined, the weight has slowly crept back on her, mostly due to her sugar addiction. The doc wants her to lose a bit of weight again.

    Hi Mike thank you so much for sharing the copymethat id love to try it i usually email my recipes to me but that would soooo help me better track them... Thank you.... This is the first time since i lost weight that hubby and i are doing this together. We made a meatless sheppard pie today with morning glory crumbles. Came out nice... Im so in love with Mediterranean style.. I want to make more foods like it.. I hope your wife doesn't give up.. I swear that 30 crept up on me also...but after 3 months im down 20lbs... 41 will not go down like this lol

    Oh, she won't give up. She's a fighter. Thank you.

    If you load it, you'll likely have to use a Chrome browser, then go to copymethat.com and sign up. Since it's not in the app store any longer, that's how you have to do it now. With one click (in the Chrome browser), you can copy any recipe to your collection. It's so user friendly. Even expensive apps that charge don't rival this.

    They have a premium and it's like $25 for a lifetime (super cheap) and helps with meal planning and shopping lists.

    Some other ideas -- Oh She Glows Cookbook is wonderful (the one with the carrots on the cover). My favorite plant based (and gluten/dairy free) cookbook. Ambitious Kitchen (a blogger) is another favorite of mine. Her Thai Cashew Quinoa Salad is to die for. Amazing. I also like Minimalist Baker's blog a lot. She's also very healthy with all her recipes.

    There's a FB group too for Mediterranean as well. Remember, Mediterranean isn't about all Med flavors, it's more about what you're not eating -- overly processed foods, refined grains, red meats, fried foods. It's more about the style of cooking than eating Italian and Greek. That Thai Quinoa Salad is very Mediterranean Diet -- lots of whole grains, fresh veggies, EVOO and fresh lime juice.

    Well then why is it called "Thai" Quinoa Salad? And what is this "Remember, Mediterranean isn't about all Med flavors"? Who is making this stuff up? Talk to your Italian friends and ask what they think. You are making up your own Med diet. Call it something else. Italians are VERY proud of the Mediterranean diet. Nobody here asks how to do it. Even children know what to eat here. There's a cartoon I was watching with my grandson today called "Trulli Tales" with children cooking and talking about flavors--those lovely Med flavors.

    Again, I still respectfully disagree. If you want to start getting that picky, historically, Italy only had goat, sheep and A2/A2 cows. Northern Europe is where the A2/A1 genetic variant came in. So technically, if Italian cow cheese isn't A2/A2, it's not really historically Mediterranean. I get that the Med region markets itself as things grown here or from here, but even that isn't 100% accurate. Kraft Mozz cheese is worlds away from historic Italian cheese. Greece only ate sheep and goat cheese. Cow feta is an absolute abomination, but it's mainly what we have here in the US.

    The Mediterranean region also includes North Africa, Greece, Turkey, Spain, Lebanese (my favorite) and others. To me, style is more important. But to each their own.

    I'd rather be clearer, to the OP, that what you eat is more important than if it's considered Italian or not. And when a doc says, "eat more Mediterranean...", they are more concerned with substance than details of what part of the world the food comes from.

    No one has to eat Italian to eat Med, but I disagree with you. Yes, the Mediterranean is all the countries mentioned, but it's not Thailand. When I'm in the States I substitute for what I can't get, but...hey, the flavors are important. That's what makes the Med what it is. You can eat healthily with cusines from all over the world, but calling Indian( for example), French is not correct. I don't think that's nitpicking.
  • MikePfirrman
    MikePfirrman Posts: 3,307 Member
    To the OP, I like @snowflake954 and @lemurcat2 -- don't let my disagreement detract from what's important. Sorry.
  • MikePfirrman
    MikePfirrman Posts: 3,307 Member
    edited November 2020
    Nykeyacox wrote: »
    Try Copymethat. I don't think they are in the app store any longer, but it's an app that can (in Chrome) copy any recipe off the internet with one click. I use sites like Allrecipes or blogs and when I see one that looks good, I copy it, try it and, assuming I like it, it goes into my collection of recipes.

    I like Copymethat also because I can also add in my own personal recipes to my collection. It's the best internet tool I've found, by far, to add in new, healthy recipes.

    My wife and I eat Mediterranean and try to add in Plant Based recipes all the time. We're also trying to cut out added sugar. While we both lost well over 100 lbs combined, the weight has slowly crept back on her, mostly due to her sugar addiction. The doc wants her to lose a bit of weight again.

    Hi Mike thank you so much for sharing the copymethat id love to try it i usually email my recipes to me but that would soooo help me better track them... Thank you.... This is the first time since i lost weight that hubby and i are doing this together. We made a meatless sheppard pie today with morning glory crumbles. Came out nice... Im so in love with Mediterranean style.. I want to make more foods like it.. I hope your wife doesn't give up.. I swear that 30 crept up on me also...but after 3 months im down 20lbs... 41 will not go down like this lol

    Oh, she won't give up. She's a fighter. Thank you.

    If you load it, you'll likely have to use a Chrome browser, then go to copymethat.com and sign up. Since it's not in the app store any longer, that's how you have to do it now. With one click (in the Chrome browser), you can copy any recipe to your collection. It's so user friendly. Even expensive apps that charge don't rival this.

    They have a premium and it's like $25 for a lifetime (super cheap) and helps with meal planning and shopping lists.

    Some other ideas -- Oh She Glows Cookbook is wonderful (the one with the carrots on the cover). My favorite plant based (and gluten/dairy free) cookbook. Ambitious Kitchen (a blogger) is another favorite of mine. Her Thai Cashew Quinoa Salad is to die for. Amazing. I also like Minimalist Baker's blog a lot. She's also very healthy with all her recipes.

    There's a FB group too for Mediterranean as well. Remember, Mediterranean isn't about all Med flavors, it's more about what you're not eating -- overly processed foods, refined grains, red meats, fried foods. It's more about the style of cooking than eating Italian and Greek. That Thai Quinoa Salad is very Mediterranean Diet -- lots of whole grains, fresh veggies, EVOO and fresh lime juice.

    Well then why is it called "Thai" Quinoa Salad? And what is this "Remember, Mediterranean isn't about all Med flavors"? Who is making this stuff up? Talk to your Italian friends and ask what they think. You are making up your own Med diet. Call it something else. Italians are VERY proud of the Mediterranean diet. Nobody here asks how to do it. Even children know what to eat here. There's a cartoon I was watching with my grandson today called "Trulli Tales" with children cooking and talking about flavors--those lovely Med flavors.

    Again, I still respectfully disagree. If you want to start getting that picky, historically, Italy only had goat, sheep and A2/A2 cows. Northern Europe is where the A2/A1 genetic variant came in. So technically, if Italian cow cheese isn't A2/A2, it's not really historically Mediterranean. I get that the Med region markets itself as things grown here or from here, but even that isn't 100% accurate. Kraft Mozz cheese is worlds away from historic Italian cheese. Greece only ate sheep and goat cheese. Cow feta is an absolute abomination, but it's mainly what we have here in the US.

    The Mediterranean region also includes North Africa, Greece, Turkey, Spain, Lebanese (my favorite) and others. To me, style is more important. But to each their own.

    I'd rather be clearer, to the OP, that what you eat is more important than if it's considered Italian or not. And when a doc says, "eat more Mediterranean...", they are more concerned with substance than details of what part of the world the food comes from.

    No one has to eat Italian to eat Med, but I disagree with you. Yes, the Mediterranean is all the countries mentioned, but it's not Thailand. When I'm in the States I substitute for what I can't get, but...hey, the flavors are important. That's what makes the Med what it is. You can eat healthily with cusines from all over the world, but calling Indian( for example), French is not correct. I don't think that's nitpicking.

    Well, Wikipedia and the Mayo Clinic disagree with you. I said that Thai recipe (though Thai might be a misnomer for it) was Med compliant, and it is. I never said all Thai cooking is all Mediterranean. I also said the Mediterranean is more about style of cooking and that's confirmed below.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mediterranean_cuisine

    The cooking of the area is not to be confused with the Mediterranean diet, made popular because of the apparent health benefits of a diet rich in olive oil, wheat and other grains, fruits, vegetables, and a certain amount of seafood, but low in meat and dairy products. Mediterranean cuisine encompasses the ways that these and other ingredients, including meat, are dealt with in the kitchen, whether they are health-giving or not.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mediterranean_diet

    The Mediterranean diet as a nutritional recommendation is different from the cultural practices that UNESCO listed in 2010 under the heading "Mediterranean diet" on the Representative List of the Intangible Cultural Heritage of Humanity: "a set of skills, knowledge, rituals, symbols and traditions concerning crops, harvesting, fishing, animal husbandry, conservation, processing, cooking, and particularly the sharing and consumption of food", not as a particular set of foods. Its sponsors include Croatia, Cyprus, Greece, Italy, Morocco, Spain and Portugal.[12][13]

    https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/nutrition-and-healthy-eating/in-depth/mediterranean-diet/art-20047801

    What is the Mediterranean diet?
    The Mediterranean diet is a way of eating based on the traditional cuisine of countries bordering the Mediterranean Sea. While there is no single definition of the Mediterranean diet, it is typically high in vegetables, fruits, whole grains, beans, nut and seeds, and olive oil.

    The main components of Mediterranean diet include:

    Daily consumption of vegetables, fruits, whole grains and healthy fats
    Weekly intake of fish, poultry, beans and eggs
    Moderate portions of dairy products
    Limited intake of red meat
    Other important elements of the Mediterranean diet are sharing meals with family and friends, enjoying a glass of red wine and being physically active.

    Plant based, not meat based
    The foundation of the Mediterranean diet is vegetables, fruits, herbs, nuts, beans and whole grains. Meals are built around these plant-based foods. Moderate amounts of dairy, poultry and eggs are also central to the Mediterranean Diet, as is seafood. In contrast, red meat is eaten only occasionally.
  • lemurcat2
    lemurcat2 Posts: 7,885 Member
    I think what snowflake and I are taking issue with is the fact that the term Mediterranean diet is used in a way that has nothing to do with the various cuisines of the Mediterranean. It's needlessly confusing and to me seems kind of bizarre in that Mediterranean has a meaning. Also, the same eating pattern is typically discussed without trying to connect it to the Mediterranean region in some way (as using the term necessarily does). If one is talking about a way of eating that can be done with simply traditional American-style cooking or Asian or Latin American or some mix based on whatever your seasons and local ingredients and so on are, why call it Mediterranean, when that has a distinct different meaning. Telling people in the Mediterranean that Thai dishes or quinoa or whatever are traditionally Mediterranean makes no sense, and of course as you note there are plenty of dishes from the various Mediterranean cuisines that don't fit the pattern of the diet.

    It's a bit of a pet peeve of mine, and I think it's because it's somewhat trendy for people to want to say they eat Mediterranean in some cases.

    For the sake of the OP, I do agree that her doctor is talking about a healthy eating pattern (which can be reasonably well defined by looking at, say, the Harvard healthy eating pyramid, or any of the oldways patterns, including, say, the Asian one), and not Mediterranean cuisine. I would agree that your dish and the way of eating you are talking about are consistent with that type of eating pattern. But I don't think it helps to further the confusion the term Mediterranean causes, which is why I eat a diet that is focused on vegetables, fruits, whole-food starches and some whole grains, cook a good amount with olive oil (and love olives), and eat lots of fish while generally eating less red meat and including meatless days, but don't call how I eat Mediterranean, since it tends to be more focused on a variety of dishes (often Americanized or fusion in style) made with US-sourced ingredients most often, and of course subject to my particular climate (which is US midwestern).
  • snowflake954
    snowflake954 Posts: 8,399 Member
    Nykeyacox wrote: »
    Try Copymethat. I don't think they are in the app store any longer, but it's an app that can (in Chrome) copy any recipe off the internet with one click. I use sites like Allrecipes or blogs and when I see one that looks good, I copy it, try it and, assuming I like it, it goes into my collection of recipes.

    I like Copymethat also because I can also add in my own personal recipes to my collection. It's the best internet tool I've found, by far, to add in new, healthy recipes.

    My wife and I eat Mediterranean and try to add in Plant Based recipes all the time. We're also trying to cut out added sugar. While we both lost well over 100 lbs combined, the weight has slowly crept back on her, mostly due to her sugar addiction. The doc wants her to lose a bit of weight again.

    Hi Mike thank you so much for sharing the copymethat id love to try it i usually email my recipes to me but that would soooo help me better track them... Thank you.... This is the first time since i lost weight that hubby and i are doing this together. We made a meatless sheppard pie today with morning glory crumbles. Came out nice... Im so in love with Mediterranean style.. I want to make more foods like it.. I hope your wife doesn't give up.. I swear that 30 crept up on me also...but after 3 months im down 20lbs... 41 will not go down like this lol

    Oh, she won't give up. She's a fighter. Thank you.

    If you load it, you'll likely have to use a Chrome browser, then go to copymethat.com and sign up. Since it's not in the app store any longer, that's how you have to do it now. With one click (in the Chrome browser), you can copy any recipe to your collection. It's so user friendly. Even expensive apps that charge don't rival this.

    They have a premium and it's like $25 for a lifetime (super cheap) and helps with meal planning and shopping lists.

    Some other ideas -- Oh She Glows Cookbook is wonderful (the one with the carrots on the cover). My favorite plant based (and gluten/dairy free) cookbook. Ambitious Kitchen (a blogger) is another favorite of mine. Her Thai Cashew Quinoa Salad is to die for. Amazing. I also like Minimalist Baker's blog a lot. She's also very healthy with all her recipes.

    There's a FB group too for Mediterranean as well. Remember, Mediterranean isn't about all Med flavors, it's more about what you're not eating -- overly processed foods, refined grains, red meats, fried foods. It's more about the style of cooking than eating Italian and Greek. That Thai Quinoa Salad is very Mediterranean Diet -- lots of whole grains, fresh veggies, EVOO and fresh lime juice.

    Well then why is it called "Thai" Quinoa Salad? And what is this "Remember, Mediterranean isn't about all Med flavors"? Who is making this stuff up? Talk to your Italian friends and ask what they think. You are making up your own Med diet. Call it something else. Italians are VERY proud of the Mediterranean diet. Nobody here asks how to do it. Even children know what to eat here. There's a cartoon I was watching with my grandson today called "Trulli Tales" with children cooking and talking about flavors--those lovely Med flavors.

    Again, I still respectfully disagree. If you want to start getting that picky, historically, Italy only had goat, sheep and A2/A2 cows. Northern Europe is where the A2/A1 genetic variant came in. So technically, if Italian cow cheese isn't A2/A2, it's not really historically Mediterranean. I get that the Med region markets itself as things grown here or from here, but even that isn't 100% accurate. Kraft Mozz cheese is worlds away from historic Italian cheese. Greece only ate sheep and goat cheese. Cow feta is an absolute abomination, but it's mainly what we have here in the US.

    The Mediterranean region also includes North Africa, Greece, Turkey, Spain, Lebanese (my favorite) and others. To me, style is more important. But to each their own.

    I'd rather be clearer, to the OP, that what you eat is more important than if it's considered Italian or not. And when a doc says, "eat more Mediterranean...", they are more concerned with substance than details of what part of the world the food comes from.

    No one has to eat Italian to eat Med, but I disagree with you. Yes, the Mediterranean is all the countries mentioned, but it's not Thailand. When I'm in the States I substitute for what I can't get, but...hey, the flavors are important. That's what makes the Med what it is. You can eat healthily with cusines from all over the world, but calling Indian( for example), French is not correct. I don't think that's nitpicking.

    Well, Wikipedia and the Mayo Clinic disagree with you. I said that Thai recipe (though Thai might be a misnomer for it) was Med compliant, and it is. I never said all Thai cooking is all Mediterranean. I also said the Mediterranean is more about style of cooking and that's confirmed below.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mediterranean_cuisine

    The cooking of the area is not to be confused with the Mediterranean diet, made popular because of the apparent health benefits of a diet rich in olive oil, wheat and other grains, fruits, vegetables, and a certain amount of seafood, but low in meat and dairy products. Mediterranean cuisine encompasses the ways that these and other ingredients, including meat, are dealt with in the kitchen, whether they are health-giving or not.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mediterranean_diet

    The Mediterranean diet as a nutritional recommendation is different from the cultural practices that UNESCO listed in 2010 under the heading "Mediterranean diet" on the Representative List of the Intangible Cultural Heritage of Humanity: "a set of skills, knowledge, rituals, symbols and traditions concerning crops, harvesting, fishing, animal husbandry, conservation, processing, cooking, and particularly the sharing and consumption of food", not as a particular set of foods. Its sponsors include Croatia, Cyprus, Greece, Italy, Morocco, Spain and Portugal.[12][13]

    https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/nutrition-and-healthy-eating/in-depth/mediterranean-diet/art-20047801

    What is the Mediterranean diet?
    The Mediterranean diet is a way of eating based on the traditional cuisine of countries bordering the Mediterranean Sea. While there is no single definition of the Mediterranean diet, it is typically high in vegetables, fruits, whole grains, beans, nut and seeds, and olive oil.

    The main components of Mediterranean diet include:

    Daily consumption of vegetables, fruits, whole grains and healthy fats
    Weekly intake of fish, poultry, beans and eggs
    Moderate portions of dairy products
    Limited intake of red meat
    Other important elements of the Mediterranean diet are sharing meals with family and friends, enjoying a glass of red wine and being physically active.

    Plant based, not meat based
    The foundation of the Mediterranean diet is vegetables, fruits, herbs, nuts, beans and whole grains. Meals are built around these plant-based foods. Moderate amounts of dairy, poultry and eggs are also central to the Mediterranean Diet, as is seafood. In contrast, red meat is eaten only occasionally.

    Well Mike--you are so wrong here that I can only say--eat your "Mediterranean" --Thai, Chinese, Mexican, Russian, Swedish, Scottish, as you will. The Mayo clinic should be calling their diet something else. All good ideas, all great cusines, but confusing as crap for people that really know what it is, and what it tastes like. Sad.
  • snowflake954
    snowflake954 Posts: 8,399 Member
    lemurcat2 wrote: »
    I think what snowflake and I are taking issue with is the fact that the term Mediterranean diet is used in a way that has nothing to do with the various cuisines of the Mediterranean. It's needlessly confusing and to me seems kind of bizarre in that Mediterranean has a meaning. Also, the same eating pattern is typically discussed without trying to connect it to the Mediterranean region in some way (as using the term necessarily does). If one is talking about a way of eating that can be done with simply traditional American-style cooking or Asian or Latin American or some mix based on whatever your seasons and local ingredients and so on are, why call it Mediterranean, when that has a distinct different meaning. Telling people in the Mediterranean that Thai dishes or quinoa or whatever are traditionally Mediterranean makes no sense, and of course as you note there are plenty of dishes from the various Mediterranean cuisines that don't fit the pattern of the diet.

    It's a bit of a pet peeve of mine, and I think it's because it's somewhat trendy for people to want to say they eat Mediterranean in some cases.

    For the sake of the OP, I do agree that her doctor is talking about a healthy eating pattern (which can be reasonably well defined by looking at, say, the Harvard healthy eating pyramid, or any of the oldways patterns, including, say, the Asian one), and not Mediterranean cuisine. I would agree that your dish and the way of eating you are talking about are consistent with that type of eating pattern. But I don't think it helps to further the confusion the term Mediterranean causes, which is why I eat a diet that is focused on vegetables, fruits, whole-food starches and some whole grains, cook a good amount with olive oil (and love olives), and eat lots of fish while generally eating less red meat and including meatless days, but don't call how I eat Mediterranean, since it tends to be more focused on a variety of dishes (often Americanized or fusion in style) made with US-sourced ingredients most often, and of course subject to my particular climate (which is US midwestern).

    Lemur--kudos to you. You explained it better than I could. After eating Mediterranean for 35 yrs, I guess I don't know anything, sigh (for some people). Wikipedia is the expert here. When the Med diet was accepted as paternity of humanity, it was celebrated all over the Mediterranean. Boy were we dumb--didn't realize the name would be stolen to act as "click-bait".

    OP, I'm not meaning to put you off. The American idea of Med is: everything goes. So, with this definition, just check out plant based recipes, ditch the butter (as much as possible), eat lean meats, and try to expand your fish intake (there are may different types and ways to cook them--experiment). We, actually, eat cheeses and dairy from cow, goat, and buffalo milk. Most of high quality cheeses aren't easy to find in the States. Legumes are also cheap and basic, and there again, you can find great recipes online. We do eat pasta, breads, and pizza, and usually not whole grain. If you'd like ideas go to the thread "What do your meals look like? Show me pictures" or there is a produce thread. Lots of good stuff in there from all over the world.

    I would recommend cooking yourself as much as possible. If you can't, read the labels carefully. Wishing you the best and success with your weight loss.
  • Oliveciabatta
    Oliveciabatta Posts: 294 Member
    Why don't you also look to the east and southern med. Most people default Mediterranean as italian/Spanish when it takes in Greece, lebanon, Israel, Portugal and even North Africa. Lots of things like vegetable tagines, spinach, pomegranate and pine nuts. Dried fruit and spiced dishes and chilli or yoghurt sauces. All very healthy and very validly Mediterranean food 😋. Personally I love Greek and Turkish food. Grilled Chicken kebabs with herby yoghurt sauce and olives yum.
  • snowflake954
    snowflake954 Posts: 8,399 Member
    xtineart wrote: »
    Why don't you also look to the east and southern med. Most people default Mediterranean as italian/Spanish when it takes in Greece, lebanon, Israel, Portugal and even North Africa. Lots of things like vegetable tagines, spinach, pomegranate and pine nuts. Dried fruit and spiced dishes and chilli or yoghurt sauces. All very healthy and very validly Mediterranean food 😋. Personally I love Greek and Turkish food. Grilled Chicken kebabs with herby yoghurt sauce and olives yum.

    I'd suggest that you take a look at a map. Portugal is on the Atlantic. Spain is on the Tirrenean Sea.