Pcp suggested Mediterranean & plant based diet really need more ideas
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Portugal is also med on the south and the diet very similar to Spain.3
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I don't think I've put this in the thread yet, so OP, check out this site: 101cookbooks. Vegetarian recipes and you can focus on specific ingredients. Very helpful and the recipes are delicious and appealing and focused on season, which I love.1
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I know what you mean geographically
but the Portuguese diet is what you could certainly class as Mediterranean. Let's be honest just being on the actual med doesn't mean your diet is going to be one people want to follow, not too may libyan ir albanian cook books out there. Others have suggested thai is med style which is bending it s but far. Portugal is the same mainly fish, olive oil fresh fruit and veg as spain. You wouldn't say they follow an Atlantic diet.
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WOW Everyone I am just reading all the opinions and Ideas, Sorry i have been working But i thank you all for taking the time to time chime in on the conversation. I am going to try to respond to you all as i am now sitting at work lol And when i get home my husband has the laptop and my 4 year old wants my attention so this is the time for me to view and learn something lol1
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I know what you mean geographically
but the Portuguese diet is what you could certainly class as Mediterranean. Let's be honest just being on the actual med doesn't mean your diet is going to be one people want to follow, not too may libyan ir albanian cook books out there. Others have suggested thai is med style which is bending it s but far. Portugal is the same mainly fish, olive oil fresh fruit and veg as spain. You wouldn't say they follow an Atlantic diet.
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Thank you for your comment ,, Honestly I would like to just find out how to make flavorable meals with Veggies quinoa or what have you. I only know the labanese, mediterranean or arabic foods because i work at a hospital and its diverse and of course potlocks and what have you. I love Diversity and learning ways to make things flavorable and healthy from different cultures, will i try everything no but if its appealing to me i will2 -
I don't think I've put this in the thread yet, so OP, check out this site: 101cookbooks. Vegetarian recipes and you can focus on specific ingredients. Very helpful and the recipes are delicious and appealing and focused on season, which I love.
OMG Thank you so much I will try that maybe thats what i should have asked, But im not trying to be vegetarian just at this time this is working for me1 -
Why don't you also look to the east and southern med. Most people default Mediterranean as italian/Spanish when it takes in Greece, lebanon, Israel, Portugal and even North Africa. Lots of things like vegetable tagines, spinach, pomegranate and pine nuts. Dried fruit and spiced dishes and chilli or yoghurt sauces. All very healthy and very validly Mediterranean food 😋. Personally I love Greek and Turkish food. Grilled Chicken kebabs with herby yoghurt sauce and olives yum.
What you are mentioning sounds yum. i wish i had more friends from different cultures... Most people i have been meeting solely at work so thats how i have been able to experience different things0 -
snowflake954 wrote: »MikePfirrman wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »MikePfirrman wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »MikePfirrman wrote: »MikePfirrman wrote: »Try Copymethat. I don't think they are in the app store any longer, but it's an app that can (in Chrome) copy any recipe off the internet with one click. I use sites like Allrecipes or blogs and when I see one that looks good, I copy it, try it and, assuming I like it, it goes into my collection of recipes.
I like Copymethat also because I can also add in my own personal recipes to my collection. It's the best internet tool I've found, by far, to add in new, healthy recipes.
My wife and I eat Mediterranean and try to add in Plant Based recipes all the time. We're also trying to cut out added sugar. While we both lost well over 100 lbs combined, the weight has slowly crept back on her, mostly due to her sugar addiction. The doc wants her to lose a bit of weight again.
Hi Mike thank you so much for sharing the copymethat id love to try it i usually email my recipes to me but that would soooo help me better track them... Thank you.... This is the first time since i lost weight that hubby and i are doing this together. We made a meatless sheppard pie today with morning glory crumbles. Came out nice... Im so in love with Mediterranean style.. I want to make more foods like it.. I hope your wife doesn't give up.. I swear that 30 crept up on me also...but after 3 months im down 20lbs... 41 will not go down like this lol
Oh, she won't give up. She's a fighter. Thank you.
If you load it, you'll likely have to use a Chrome browser, then go to copymethat.com and sign up. Since it's not in the app store any longer, that's how you have to do it now. With one click (in the Chrome browser), you can copy any recipe to your collection. It's so user friendly. Even expensive apps that charge don't rival this.
They have a premium and it's like $25 for a lifetime (super cheap) and helps with meal planning and shopping lists.
Some other ideas -- Oh She Glows Cookbook is wonderful (the one with the carrots on the cover). My favorite plant based (and gluten/dairy free) cookbook. Ambitious Kitchen (a blogger) is another favorite of mine. Her Thai Cashew Quinoa Salad is to die for. Amazing. I also like Minimalist Baker's blog a lot. She's also very healthy with all her recipes.
There's a FB group too for Mediterranean as well. Remember, Mediterranean isn't about all Med flavors, it's more about what you're not eating -- overly processed foods, refined grains, red meats, fried foods. It's more about the style of cooking than eating Italian and Greek. That Thai Quinoa Salad is very Mediterranean Diet -- lots of whole grains, fresh veggies, EVOO and fresh lime juice.
Well then why is it called "Thai" Quinoa Salad? And what is this "Remember, Mediterranean isn't about all Med flavors"? Who is making this stuff up? Talk to your Italian friends and ask what they think. You are making up your own Med diet. Call it something else. Italians are VERY proud of the Mediterranean diet. Nobody here asks how to do it. Even children know what to eat here. There's a cartoon I was watching with my grandson today called "Trulli Tales" with children cooking and talking about flavors--those lovely Med flavors.
Again, I still respectfully disagree. If you want to start getting that picky, historically, Italy only had goat, sheep and A2/A2 cows. Northern Europe is where the A2/A1 genetic variant came in. So technically, if Italian cow cheese isn't A2/A2, it's not really historically Mediterranean. I get that the Med region markets itself as things grown here or from here, but even that isn't 100% accurate. Kraft Mozz cheese is worlds away from historic Italian cheese. Greece only ate sheep and goat cheese. Cow feta is an absolute abomination, but it's mainly what we have here in the US.
The Mediterranean region also includes North Africa, Greece, Turkey, Spain, Lebanese (my favorite) and others. To me, style is more important. But to each their own.
I'd rather be clearer, to the OP, that what you eat is more important than if it's considered Italian or not. And when a doc says, "eat more Mediterranean...", they are more concerned with substance than details of what part of the world the food comes from.
No one has to eat Italian to eat Med, but I disagree with you. Yes, the Mediterranean is all the countries mentioned, but it's not Thailand. When I'm in the States I substitute for what I can't get, but...hey, the flavors are important. That's what makes the Med what it is. You can eat healthily with cusines from all over the world, but calling Indian( for example), French is not correct. I don't think that's nitpicking.
Well, Wikipedia and the Mayo Clinic disagree with you. I said that Thai recipe (though Thai might be a misnomer for it) was Med compliant, and it is. I never said all Thai cooking is all Mediterranean. I also said the Mediterranean is more about style of cooking and that's confirmed below.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mediterranean_cuisine
The cooking of the area is not to be confused with the Mediterranean diet, made popular because of the apparent health benefits of a diet rich in olive oil, wheat and other grains, fruits, vegetables, and a certain amount of seafood, but low in meat and dairy products. Mediterranean cuisine encompasses the ways that these and other ingredients, including meat, are dealt with in the kitchen, whether they are health-giving or not.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mediterranean_diet
The Mediterranean diet as a nutritional recommendation is different from the cultural practices that UNESCO listed in 2010 under the heading "Mediterranean diet" on the Representative List of the Intangible Cultural Heritage of Humanity: "a set of skills, knowledge, rituals, symbols and traditions concerning crops, harvesting, fishing, animal husbandry, conservation, processing, cooking, and particularly the sharing and consumption of food", not as a particular set of foods. Its sponsors include Croatia, Cyprus, Greece, Italy, Morocco, Spain and Portugal.[12][13]
https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/nutrition-and-healthy-eating/in-depth/mediterranean-diet/art-20047801
What is the Mediterranean diet?
The Mediterranean diet is a way of eating based on the traditional cuisine of countries bordering the Mediterranean Sea. While there is no single definition of the Mediterranean diet, it is typically high in vegetables, fruits, whole grains, beans, nut and seeds, and olive oil.
The main components of Mediterranean diet include:
Daily consumption of vegetables, fruits, whole grains and healthy fats
Weekly intake of fish, poultry, beans and eggs
Moderate portions of dairy products
Limited intake of red meat
Other important elements of the Mediterranean diet are sharing meals with family and friends, enjoying a glass of red wine and being physically active.
Plant based, not meat based
The foundation of the Mediterranean diet is vegetables, fruits, herbs, nuts, beans and whole grains. Meals are built around these plant-based foods. Moderate amounts of dairy, poultry and eggs are also central to the Mediterranean Diet, as is seafood. In contrast, red meat is eaten only occasionally.
Well Mike--you are so wrong here that I can only say--eat your "Mediterranean" --Thai, Chinese, Mexican, Russian, Swedish, Scottish, as you will. The Mayo clinic should be calling their diet something else. All good ideas, all great cusines, but confusing as crap for people that really know what it is, and what it tastes like. Sad.
No disrespect meant at all, but I spent over a year on the Mediterranean Diet FB page clearing up misconceptions. The number one misconception about this isn't about the Cuisines, it's about the style. People that were misinformed, confusing cuisine with cooking style/principles, believing incorrectly that eating pasta and pizza was the Mediterranean Diet. Eating modern day Italian and Greek loaded with cow's cheese is not the Mediterranean Diet.3 -
I think what snowflake and I are taking issue with is the fact that the term Mediterranean diet is used in a way that has nothing to do with the various cuisines of the Mediterranean. It's needlessly confusing and to me seems kind of bizarre in that Mediterranean has a meaning. Also, the same eating pattern is typically discussed without trying to connect it to the Mediterranean region in some way (as using the term necessarily does). If one is talking about a way of eating that can be done with simply traditional American-style cooking or Asian or Latin American or some mix based on whatever your seasons and local ingredients and so on are, why call it Mediterranean, when that has a distinct different meaning. Telling people in the Mediterranean that Thai dishes or quinoa or whatever are traditionally Mediterranean makes no sense, and of course as you note there are plenty of dishes from the various Mediterranean cuisines that don't fit the pattern of the diet.
It's a bit of a pet peeve of mine, and I think it's because it's somewhat trendy for people to want to say they eat Mediterranean in some cases.
For the sake of the OP, I do agree that her doctor is talking about a healthy eating pattern (which can be reasonably well defined by looking at, say, the Harvard healthy eating pyramid, or any of the oldways patterns, including, say, the Asian one), and not Mediterranean cuisine. I would agree that your dish and the way of eating you are talking about are consistent with that type of eating pattern. But I don't think it helps to further the confusion the term Mediterranean causes, which is why I eat a diet that is focused on vegetables, fruits, whole-food starches and some whole grains, cook a good amount with olive oil (and love olives), and eat lots of fish while generally eating less red meat and including meatless days, but don't call how I eat Mediterranean, since it tends to be more focused on a variety of dishes (often Americanized or fusion in style) made with US-sourced ingredients most often, and of course subject to my particular climate (which is US midwestern).
Thank you so much for your post Love, Honestly So i work for a hospital also no im not a nurse or doctor but i have been here 13 years. The Mediterranean diet has been mentioned by the endocrinology department, the nutritionist and pcp. Honestly when it is mentioned to me i only see the list of foods they say but now no one says how to cook them.. My husband and i for the last week or to have been making meatless meals with Morning star crumbles like sheppard pie and chili,, i made the quinoa meal based on the ingredients from the Rev Restaurant i go to and love it. But i dont want us to have to stick to just one thing i want to learn this.. We have heard things about some fish like Whiting, pearch, catfish, I try salmon but its to fishy for me so we have eaten Cod, Haddock and orange roughy which im on the fence. it was okay and trying to stay back from red meat pork. I want to make meals My Daughter husband and i can enjoy while be healthy,,, I appreciate you all for responding2 -
snowflake954 wrote: »northviewvintage wrote: »She's my favorite. I make this all the time!
https://youtu.be/lGX8m8lAzOs
Actually this is very close to how we cook here. The idea is simple flavors. OP you can use this recipe and if you don't like eggplant, substitute zucchini.
OMG i never had eggplant but ive been wanting to try it but scared,, I love Zucchini i have made zucchini bites, and stuffed zucchini, i like stuffed peppers but when i found a bug in it i was done,, yup i have a bug Phobia lol1 -
If you get a chance, try Ethiopian food or Moroccan cuisine. Ethiopia isn't technically on the Mediterranean, but it's certainly plant based with limited meat and delicious. Loaded with veggies and fermented teff bread. Awesome stuff. Moroccan is wonderful. Spicy, fragrant and citrus loaded.3
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snowflake954 wrote: »I think what snowflake and I are taking issue with is the fact that the term Mediterranean diet is used in a way that has nothing to do with the various cuisines of the Mediterranean. It's needlessly confusing and to me seems kind of bizarre in that Mediterranean has a meaning. Also, the same eating pattern is typically discussed without trying to connect it to the Mediterranean region in some way (as using the term necessarily does). If one is talking about a way of eating that can be done with simply traditional American-style cooking or Asian or Latin American or some mix based on whatever your seasons and local ingredients and so on are, why call it Mediterranean, when that has a distinct different meaning. Telling people in the Mediterranean that Thai dishes or quinoa or whatever are traditionally Mediterranean makes no sense, and of course as you note there are plenty of dishes from the various Mediterranean cuisines that don't fit the pattern of the diet.
It's a bit of a pet peeve of mine, and I think it's because it's somewhat trendy for people to want to say they eat Mediterranean in some cases.
For the sake of the OP, I do agree that her doctor is talking about a healthy eating pattern (which can be reasonably well defined by looking at, say, the Harvard healthy eating pyramid, or any of the oldways patterns, including, say, the Asian one), and not Mediterranean cuisine. I would agree that your dish and the way of eating you are talking about are consistent with that type of eating pattern. But I don't think it helps to further the confusion the term Mediterranean causes, which is why I eat a diet that is focused on vegetables, fruits, whole-food starches and some whole grains, cook a good amount with olive oil (and love olives), and eat lots of fish while generally eating less red meat and including meatless days, but don't call how I eat Mediterranean, since it tends to be more focused on a variety of dishes (often Americanized or fusion in style) made with US-sourced ingredients most often, and of course subject to my particular climate (which is US midwestern).
Lemur--kudos to you. You explained it better than I could. After eating Mediterranean for 35 yrs, I guess I don't know anything, sigh (for some people). Wikipedia is the expert here. When the Med diet was accepted as paternity of humanity, it was celebrated all over the Mediterranean. Boy were we dumb--didn't realize the name would be stolen to act as "click-bait".
OP, I'm not meaning to put you off. The American idea of Med is: everything goes. So, with this definition, just check out plant based recipes, ditch the butter (as much as possible), eat lean meats, and try to expand your fish intake (there are may different types and ways to cook them--experiment). We, actually, eat cheeses and dairy from cow, goat, and buffalo milk. Most of high quality cheeses aren't easy to find in the States. Legumes are also cheap and basic, and there again, you can find great recipes online. We do eat pasta, breads, and pizza, and usually not whole grain. If you'd like ideas go to the thread "What do your meals look like? Show me pictures" or there is a produce thread. Lots of good stuff in there from all over the world.
I would recommend cooking yourself as much as possible. If you can't, read the labels carefully. Wishing you the best and success with your weight loss.
Thank you so much i understand where you are coming from as well and yes id love to cook more than processed food or Take out thats the idea. I have an air fryer we dont fry anything in oil but i use olive oil when baking, Thanks for all of the support and information i really appreciate you0 -
MikePfirrman wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »MikePfirrman wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »MikePfirrman wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »MikePfirrman wrote: »MikePfirrman wrote: »Try Copymethat. I don't think they are in the app store any longer, but it's an app that can (in Chrome) copy any recipe off the internet with one click. I use sites like Allrecipes or blogs and when I see one that looks good, I copy it, try it and, assuming I like it, it goes into my collection of recipes.
I like Copymethat also because I can also add in my own personal recipes to my collection. It's the best internet tool I've found, by far, to add in new, healthy recipes.
My wife and I eat Mediterranean and try to add in Plant Based recipes all the time. We're also trying to cut out added sugar. While we both lost well over 100 lbs combined, the weight has slowly crept back on her, mostly due to her sugar addiction. The doc wants her to lose a bit of weight again.
Hi Mike thank you so much for sharing the copymethat id love to try it i usually email my recipes to me but that would soooo help me better track them... Thank you.... This is the first time since i lost weight that hubby and i are doing this together. We made a meatless sheppard pie today with morning glory crumbles. Came out nice... Im so in love with Mediterranean style.. I want to make more foods like it.. I hope your wife doesn't give up.. I swear that 30 crept up on me also...but after 3 months im down 20lbs... 41 will not go down like this lol
Oh, she won't give up. She's a fighter. Thank you.
If you load it, you'll likely have to use a Chrome browser, then go to copymethat.com and sign up. Since it's not in the app store any longer, that's how you have to do it now. With one click (in the Chrome browser), you can copy any recipe to your collection. It's so user friendly. Even expensive apps that charge don't rival this.
They have a premium and it's like $25 for a lifetime (super cheap) and helps with meal planning and shopping lists.
Some other ideas -- Oh She Glows Cookbook is wonderful (the one with the carrots on the cover). My favorite plant based (and gluten/dairy free) cookbook. Ambitious Kitchen (a blogger) is another favorite of mine. Her Thai Cashew Quinoa Salad is to die for. Amazing. I also like Minimalist Baker's blog a lot. She's also very healthy with all her recipes.
There's a FB group too for Mediterranean as well. Remember, Mediterranean isn't about all Med flavors, it's more about what you're not eating -- overly processed foods, refined grains, red meats, fried foods. It's more about the style of cooking than eating Italian and Greek. That Thai Quinoa Salad is very Mediterranean Diet -- lots of whole grains, fresh veggies, EVOO and fresh lime juice.
Well then why is it called "Thai" Quinoa Salad? And what is this "Remember, Mediterranean isn't about all Med flavors"? Who is making this stuff up? Talk to your Italian friends and ask what they think. You are making up your own Med diet. Call it something else. Italians are VERY proud of the Mediterranean diet. Nobody here asks how to do it. Even children know what to eat here. There's a cartoon I was watching with my grandson today called "Trulli Tales" with children cooking and talking about flavors--those lovely Med flavors.
Again, I still respectfully disagree. If you want to start getting that picky, historically, Italy only had goat, sheep and A2/A2 cows. Northern Europe is where the A2/A1 genetic variant came in. So technically, if Italian cow cheese isn't A2/A2, it's not really historically Mediterranean. I get that the Med region markets itself as things grown here or from here, but even that isn't 100% accurate. Kraft Mozz cheese is worlds away from historic Italian cheese. Greece only ate sheep and goat cheese. Cow feta is an absolute abomination, but it's mainly what we have here in the US.
The Mediterranean region also includes North Africa, Greece, Turkey, Spain, Lebanese (my favorite) and others. To me, style is more important. But to each their own.
I'd rather be clearer, to the OP, that what you eat is more important than if it's considered Italian or not. And when a doc says, "eat more Mediterranean...", they are more concerned with substance than details of what part of the world the food comes from.
No one has to eat Italian to eat Med, but I disagree with you. Yes, the Mediterranean is all the countries mentioned, but it's not Thailand. When I'm in the States I substitute for what I can't get, but...hey, the flavors are important. That's what makes the Med what it is. You can eat healthily with cusines from all over the world, but calling Indian( for example), French is not correct. I don't think that's nitpicking.
Well, Wikipedia and the Mayo Clinic disagree with you. I said that Thai recipe (though Thai might be a misnomer for it) was Med compliant, and it is. I never said all Thai cooking is all Mediterranean. I also said the Mediterranean is more about style of cooking and that's confirmed below.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mediterranean_cuisine
The cooking of the area is not to be confused with the Mediterranean diet, made popular because of the apparent health benefits of a diet rich in olive oil, wheat and other grains, fruits, vegetables, and a certain amount of seafood, but low in meat and dairy products. Mediterranean cuisine encompasses the ways that these and other ingredients, including meat, are dealt with in the kitchen, whether they are health-giving or not.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mediterranean_diet
The Mediterranean diet as a nutritional recommendation is different from the cultural practices that UNESCO listed in 2010 under the heading "Mediterranean diet" on the Representative List of the Intangible Cultural Heritage of Humanity: "a set of skills, knowledge, rituals, symbols and traditions concerning crops, harvesting, fishing, animal husbandry, conservation, processing, cooking, and particularly the sharing and consumption of food", not as a particular set of foods. Its sponsors include Croatia, Cyprus, Greece, Italy, Morocco, Spain and Portugal.[12][13]
https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/nutrition-and-healthy-eating/in-depth/mediterranean-diet/art-20047801
What is the Mediterranean diet?
The Mediterranean diet is a way of eating based on the traditional cuisine of countries bordering the Mediterranean Sea. While there is no single definition of the Mediterranean diet, it is typically high in vegetables, fruits, whole grains, beans, nut and seeds, and olive oil.
The main components of Mediterranean diet include:
Daily consumption of vegetables, fruits, whole grains and healthy fats
Weekly intake of fish, poultry, beans and eggs
Moderate portions of dairy products
Limited intake of red meat
Other important elements of the Mediterranean diet are sharing meals with family and friends, enjoying a glass of red wine and being physically active.
Plant based, not meat based
The foundation of the Mediterranean diet is vegetables, fruits, herbs, nuts, beans and whole grains. Meals are built around these plant-based foods. Moderate amounts of dairy, poultry and eggs are also central to the Mediterranean Diet, as is seafood. In contrast, red meat is eaten only occasionally.
Well Mike--you are so wrong here that I can only say--eat your "Mediterranean" --Thai, Chinese, Mexican, Russian, Swedish, Scottish, as you will. The Mayo clinic should be calling their diet something else. All good ideas, all great cusines, but confusing as crap for people that really know what it is, and what it tastes like. Sad.
No disrespect meant at all, but I spent over a year on the Mediterranean Diet FB page clearing up misconceptions. The number one misconception about this isn't about the Cuisines, it's about the style. People that were misinformed, confusing cuisine with cooking style/principles, believing incorrectly that eating pasta and pizza was the Mediterranean Diet. Eating modern day Italian and Greek loaded with cow's cheese is not the Mediterranean Diet.
I love how informative you all are,,, And i am telling you guys i now get why its an issue,, and ill try to stop saying im eating Mediterranean lol I just want to eat as healthy as possible, and try to be low carb, so pizza i try to do like once a month if i have to get it..but thank you for the information1 -
snowflake954 wrote: »MikePfirrman wrote: »MikePfirrman wrote: »Try Copymethat. I don't think they are in the app store any longer, but it's an app that can (in Chrome) copy any recipe off the internet with one click. I use sites like Allrecipes or blogs and when I see one that looks good, I copy it, try it and, assuming I like it, it goes into my collection of recipes.
I like Copymethat also because I can also add in my own personal recipes to my collection. It's the best internet tool I've found, by far, to add in new, healthy recipes.
My wife and I eat Mediterranean and try to add in Plant Based recipes all the time. We're also trying to cut out added sugar. While we both lost well over 100 lbs combined, the weight has slowly crept back on her, mostly due to her sugar addiction. The doc wants her to lose a bit of weight again.
Hi Mike thank you so much for sharing the copymethat id love to try it i usually email my recipes to me but that would soooo help me better track them... Thank you.... This is the first time since i lost weight that hubby and i are doing this together. We made a meatless sheppard pie today with morning glory crumbles. Came out nice... Im so in love with Mediterranean style.. I want to make more foods like it.. I hope your wife doesn't give up.. I swear that 30 crept up on me also...but after 3 months im down 20lbs... 41 will not go down like this lol
Oh, she won't give up. She's a fighter. Thank you.
If you load it, you'll likely have to use a Chrome browser, then go to copymethat.com and sign up. Since it's not in the app store any longer, that's how you have to do it now. With one click (in the Chrome browser), you can copy any recipe to your collection. It's so user friendly. Even expensive apps that charge don't rival this.
They have a premium and it's like $25 for a lifetime (super cheap) and helps with meal planning and shopping lists.
Some other ideas -- Oh She Glows Cookbook is wonderful (the one with the carrots on the cover). My favorite plant based (and gluten/dairy free) cookbook. Ambitious Kitchen (a blogger) is another favorite of mine. Her Thai Cashew Quinoa Salad is to die for. Amazing. I also like Minimalist Baker's blog a lot. She's also very healthy with all her recipes.
There's a FB group too for Mediterranean as well. Remember, Mediterranean isn't about all Med flavors, it's more about what you're not eating -- overly processed foods, refined grains, red meats, fried foods. It's more about the style of cooking than eating Italian and Greek. That Thai Quinoa Salad is very Mediterranean Diet -- lots of whole grains, fresh veggies, EVOO and fresh lime juice.
I beg to differ Mike--I live in Italy. The Med diet is UNESCO sponsered. You can change it up anyway you want, eat Asian, Cuban, South American, and eat healthily, but it's not Mediterranean.
Agreed. Med is about specific ingredients and foods common in the Mediterranean. One can eat healthfully (blue zones type diet is what I think we are really talking about) with local foods from anywhere, but I wouldn't call Thai food or quinoa Mediterranean. I eat according to blue zones principles mostly, and somewhat Med, but in that my location and climate is far from the Mediterranean (Chicago), I don't eat a Med diet. I do use lots of olives and olive oil, but also cook with butter, avocado oil, and coconut oil, for example. And I eat lots of avocados and try to eat locally when possible (we are almost out of that season), but again this climate is not Med and has other food patterns, and I don't mean non home cooking, as I normally cook at home from mostly whole foods.
Cool site: https://oldwayspt.org/traditional-diets
I eat a ton of fish, but more commonly salmon, trout, halibut, and Alaskan cod (I grew up in AK).
I am kind of a picky eater but id love the cod, Salmon ive been scared of it seems to fish and i like haddock but never had the others listed i doubt i would because i dont like catfish,,,, I cook with butter and olive oil i never tried the other oils you mention... Im back of red meats and pork a bit and now that i came to my senses i am back off of fried foods
None of the fishes I mentioned are anything like catfish. I recommend trying some trout--you might be surprised.
I asked my husband if he has a trout,,, He likes catfish i dont but i get what you are saying i just never had the fishes that you mentioned0 -
I don't think I've put this in the thread yet, so OP, check out this site: 101cookbooks. Vegetarian recipes and you can focus on specific ingredients. Very helpful and the recipes are delicious and appealing and focused on season, which I love.
OMG Thank you so much I will try that maybe thats what i should have asked, But im not trying to be vegetarian just at this time this is working for me
I'm not vegetarian either (I made a delicious vinegar chicken recipe last night someone here got me inspired about), but I do like to try vegetarian dishes. This site is good as you can search by vegetable and get lots of ideas, and the recipes are delicious and usually have photos, which I love.2 -
I don't think I've put this in the thread yet, so OP, check out this site: 101cookbooks. Vegetarian recipes and you can focus on specific ingredients. Very helpful and the recipes are delicious and appealing and focused on season, which I love.
OMG Thank you so much I will try that maybe thats what i should have asked, But im not trying to be vegetarian just at this time this is working for me
I'm not vegetarian either (I made a delicious vinegar chicken recipe last night someone here got me inspired about), but I do like to try vegetarian dishes. This site is good as you can search by vegetable and get lots of ideas, and the recipes are delicious and usually have photos, which I love.
Im looking at it right now im so excited you have no idea lol ,,,, That meal you made sounds good to ,, I need to learn how to make moist chicken in the oven mine tends to dry unless i make it with cream of chicken soup or cream of celery im not a fan of broth.... i know airfrying will make it cruchy.. i wish i had a flat grill but i have a george foremen grill but that can dry it out to1 -
I know what you mean geographically
but the Portuguese diet is what you could certainly class as Mediterranean. Let's be honest just being on the actual med doesn't mean your diet is going to be one people want to follow, not too may libyan ir albanian cook books out there. Others have suggested thai is med style which is bending it s but far. Portugal is the same mainly fish, olive oil fresh fruit and veg as spain. You wouldn't say they follow an Atlantic diet.
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I wish to apologize to you. You are right--Portugal and Spain are included. I spent part of the afternoon doing a bit of research. I also wish to thank you because our difference of opinion caused me to do some looking and I found some interesting information5 -
The Mediterranean diet is outlined by certain criteria and countries and diets are evaluated by them to decide if they fit into the Mediterranean diet. It's called Mediterranean Adherence Index--MAD. This opens up the designation of the Mediterranean to those countries not located there, but are judged compliant according to a scale used by the researchers.
Also found some information that may help the OP. It tells us what the Med diet is NOT, according to criteria. I'm adding a screenshot because I'm not great at the computer.
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I don't think I've put this in the thread yet, so OP, check out this site: 101cookbooks. Vegetarian recipes and you can focus on specific ingredients. Very helpful and the recipes are delicious and appealing and focused on season, which I love.
OMG Thank you so much I will try that maybe thats what i should have asked, But im not trying to be vegetarian just at this time this is working for me
I'm not vegetarian either (I made a delicious vinegar chicken recipe last night someone here got me inspired about), but I do like to try vegetarian dishes. This site is good as you can search by vegetable and get lots of ideas, and the recipes are delicious and usually have photos, which I love.
Im looking at it right now im so excited you have no idea lol ,,,, That meal you made sounds good to ,, I need to learn how to make moist chicken in the oven mine tends to dry unless i make it with cream of chicken soup or cream of celery im not a fan of broth.... i know airfrying will make it cruchy.. i wish i had a flat grill but i have a george foremen grill but that can dry it out to
If you have a Foreman grill that can be a great way to cook boneless fish. I recommend checking out (it will be in libraries) or buying used Mark Bittman's how to cook fish book. It's how I learned to cook fish and got ideas about new ones to try.1 -
For those (like me) who hate to read pages of stuff, the gist of it is that olive oil has properties that other oils don't have, and therefore is a keystone. Soy products, such as soy sauce, are not Med ingredients. Avocado is also not part of the Med diet. Quinoa and tofu are also not Med ingredients. The spices and flavors from the region are part of the diet--as I said, you need the flavors. The diet is simple and based on local produce and seasons. Going to farmers markets is to be encouraged. The diet is to be promoted as inexpensive. For people that don't have access to olive oil that can be a problem, but they are to try the best alternatives. Red wine is a big part of the diet, but only a glass at meals.
Therefore, someone like Lemur is doing an excellent job and actually does fit into the Med diet. So, check out your local produce, and hit the internet for recipes. Sometimes it helps to know what something is not.3 -
Helping you out, Snowflake. This link is a bit easier to read.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29117146/2 -
snowflake954 wrote: »The Mediterranean diet is outlined by certain criteria and countries and diets are evaluated by them to decide if they fit into the Mediterranean diet. It's called Mediterranean Adherence Index--MAD. This opens up the designation of the Mediterranean to those countries not located there, but are judged compliant according to a scale used by the researchers.
Also found some information that may help the OP. It tells us what the Med diet is NOT, according to criteria. I'm adding a screenshot because I'm not great at the computer.
Wow thank you so much for the information1 -
I don't think I've put this in the thread yet, so OP, check out this site: 101cookbooks. Vegetarian recipes and you can focus on specific ingredients. Very helpful and the recipes are delicious and appealing and focused on season, which I love.
OMG Thank you so much I will try that maybe thats what i should have asked, But im not trying to be vegetarian just at this time this is working for me
I'm not vegetarian either (I made a delicious vinegar chicken recipe last night someone here got me inspired about), but I do like to try vegetarian dishes. This site is good as you can search by vegetable and get lots of ideas, and the recipes are delicious and usually have photos, which I love.
Im looking at it right now im so excited you have no idea lol ,,,, That meal you made sounds good to ,, I need to learn how to make moist chicken in the oven mine tends to dry unless i make it with cream of chicken soup or cream of celery im not a fan of broth.... i know airfrying will make it cruchy.. i wish i had a flat grill but i have a george foremen grill but that can dry it out to
If you have a Foreman grill that can be a great way to cook boneless fish. I recommend checking out (it will be in libraries) or buying used Mark Bittman's how to cook fish book. It's how I learned to cook fish and got ideas about new ones to try.
Ok now thank you for that also i need to learn this if i decide not to eat red meat anymore .. Huggs1 -
One anecdotal fact about Medit diet I've heard recently. When that region people were asked questions on meat consumption, they always answered "NO". What they meant by this "NO"? That no beef they eate, but lamb, pork, chicken, duks they did not even considered being "Meat". But actually, when you watch Medit people eating their dishes, very often they eat poultry, lamb, fish. At least once a day they consume something like these. Which is axactly how we eat here, on USA soil. Ask people and you will see that many families eat meat once a day, having other mills during the rest of the day meatless.
The quastion, what do they eat with the meat? That will be completely different. That makes difference in our diets1 -
One anecdotal fact about Medit diet I've heard recently. When that region people were asked questions on meat consumption, they always answered "NO". What they meant by this "NO"? That no beef they eate, but lamb, pork, chicken, duks they did not even considered being "Meat". But actually, when you watch Medit people eating their dishes, very often they eat poultry, lamb, fish. At least once a day they consume something like these. Which is axactly how we eat here, on USA soil. Ask people and you will see that many families eat meat once a day, having other mills during the rest of the day meatless.
The quastion, what do they eat with the meat? That will be completely different. That makes difference in our diets
People who study the diet professionally know enough to break down the type of foods that people are consuming. They are just asking "Are you eating meat?" and taking "no" as a final answer. The QUANTITY of meat eaten is also an important factor. Americans eat, on average 3-5 ounces of meat per day (women being at the lower end, men being at the higher).3 -
Personally, while i think the Mediterranean Diet isna very good one, if you are focusing on whole foods (which can include red meat), consuming plenty of fruits and veggies, and whole grains, while losing weight and exercise, then you will be in a good place. Where i find people "fail", regardless of the diet they follow, is when they always look and strive to consume replacement foods consumed with their previous diet. For example, a 2000 calorie Mediterranean Diet pizza is likely not going to be beneficial outside of an occasional treat; similarly with baked goods.
Also, a greater focus should be on losing weight and exercise (especially weight training) as it improves your bodies ability to utilize nutrients.
Edited: missed a few words.1 -
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janejellyroll wrote: »
Yup--I don't get it either. I eat a 2000 cal Med Diet.1 -
janejellyroll wrote: »
I missed a few words. I updated them.1
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