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  • NovusDiesNovusDies Member, Premium Posts: 8,754 Member Member, Premium Posts: 8,754 Member
    heybales wrote: »
    NovusDies wrote: »
    If it's not weird for people to photograph and post on social media their overly indulgent restaurant meals, then I have no second thoughts calorie counting my food.
    @psychod787 I need more 'gym' friends - how to find them when gyms are locked down?

    It is weird for people to post their meals but I still won't give it a second thought calorie counting.

    I am not sure why someone needs to even comment on the health and fitness process of another person. The calorie counting people accept but getting up super early in the morning still catches comments all the time. What difference does it make to you what time I get up? I am not better than you for getting up early, I am just different. If I had more discipline I could exercise later in the day without fear of talking myself out of it. I get up early so I do not have to be as disciplined not because I am more disciplined.

    That is a beautiful way to put it.

    Sure beats the "I like getting up early and working out, makes a nice start to the day, and sure is better than working out later like all you lazy-a** people do."

    For some odd reason the latter comes off wrong.

    Oh, I almost got inspired couple weeks ago to get up early after missing my evening workout due to errand timing, sadly that was about 1:30 am and easily talked myself out of it.

    I have found that for me I will enjoy exercise and active pursuits more if I clear what I consider the minimums each morning. Once the requirement is done the rest is gravy. If I do not get the morning stuff out of the way then I feel like it hovers over me all day. I feel it draining me without even doing the work.

    It is a better start do the day for me because I get an early "win" for my goals and the relief of it being done. But that is mental. I suppose it is better start physically too but that is not really my top priority.

    I count calories because it is the easiest way for me to control intake with maximum level of confidence. I get up early because it is the easiest way for me to maintain my fitness habits.

    Going a harder way to prove I am disciplined is a surefire way to deplete my discipline. Even making it as easy as possible is a test of discipline some days. I embrace easy.

    I currently have zero interest in trying intuitive eating. I see no advantage in proving I can do it. I will rest easier not even trying. That may change in 5 years or it may not. I am committed to 5 years though. Then future me can take it from there.
  • bmeadows380bmeadows380 Member Posts: 2,931 Member Member Posts: 2,931 Member
    AnnPT77 wrote: »
    NovusDies wrote: »
    If it's not weird for people to photograph and post on social media their overly indulgent restaurant meals, then I have no second thoughts calorie counting my food.
    @psychod787 I need more 'gym' friends - how to find them when gyms are locked down?

    It is weird for people to post their meals but I still won't give it a second thought calorie counting.

    I am not sure why someone needs to even comment on the health and fitness process of another person. The calorie counting people accept but getting up super early in the morning still catches comments all the time. What difference does it make to you what time I get up? I am not better than you for getting up early, I am just different. If I had more discipline I could exercise later in the day without fear of talking myself out of it. I get up early so I do not have to be as disciplined not because I am more disciplined.

    Some people routinely question the decency or rationality of people with different habits or tastes than themselves. It's bizarre to me.

    I'm a long-term night owl. I can't begin to count how many times I've been asked "what do you dooooo in the middle of the night"? The answer is stuff like read books, fold laundry, work out, or whatever else the heck they do in the morning while I'm still happily sleeping. Do they suspect I'm sacrificing goats in my basement?!?

    It would surprise me if the reactions, at the margin, were different when it comes to differences in dietary patterns, workout choices, methods of weight management, or pretty much any other area where people vary in their preferences or choices.

    'nother night owl here, too. I routinely start my Christmas baking at around 10 pm at night and finish up around 2 am. I've been known to be vacuuming and mopping my house at midnight, and once, I even started spring cleaning around 1 AM.

    I'm just starting to really sleep well around 5 AM, which is why I despise when I have to get up at that time. That is one benefit of the forced work from home - I can stay in bed to at least 6:30 and sometimes 7 AM because the commute time is gone!

    As for intuitive eating, well, intuitive eating got me where I was. Even after 3+ years of calorie counting and portion control, I know I cannot eyeball a proper serving size of anything. I also know that brain hunger is one of my biggest enemies and I need every weapon I can get my hands on to hold him at bay. Calorie counting helps - at the very least, I have a general idea of where I am and when I find myself in the red, the warning whistle goes off; without logging and a food scale, I would easily exceed maintenance every day and then some. So if logging every day is what it takes to keep from regaining all the weight again, then I'll log.

    Besides, I'm already considered a weird duck, so what's one more thing? lol
  • FutureFit2020FutureFit2020 Member Posts: 120 Member Member Posts: 120 Member

    I can't help to feel that people might find me weird for constantly track and might have to track calories behind his back if we do move in together. N


    Calorie counting can be a sign of an eating disorder. So I think a partner keeping a sort of vague eye open to that is fair enough, but once it becomes clear that you don't have an eating disorder..this is just your way of maintaining a healthy weight. It's no one's business and you should absolutely not feel you need to hide any aspect of your personality or your general habits.

    "No Bob, this is what makes me feel good and this is what makes me happy" should be all you need to say on the subject. Ever.

  • ahoy_m8ahoy_m8 Member Posts: 2,151 Member Member Posts: 2,151 Member
    Dunegirl15 wrote: »
    NovusDies wrote: »

    The second problem is that people see it as a nanny system. They do not want to feel that restriction. They feel more free when they can eat without logging. I had food freedom. It cost me all kinds of other freedom. I am not interested in food freedom anymore. But not everyone has travelled the extremes I have so even though I see logging as freeing, not everyone else will.

    Agree with this 100%. For me, logging is freedom.

    There is an old monastic wisdom that freedom can only be known within the context of discipline. Some may think freedom is indulging every whim, but then we become slaves to urges, unable to make & act on choices. Choices fall off the table. It's only self mastery through discipline that keeps all the choices within reach.

    The desert fathers/mothers described the spiritual domain, e.g. will you choose the compassionate action and whether you have the fortitude to act on that choice depends on a regular practice of considering others (vs. only thinking selfishly). But the wisdom applies easily to the physical domain. Do I want to run a 10k with a friend this Saturday? Well, if I don't have a daily running discipline, that may not be an option for me. Do I want the marshmallow now or two later? If I'm a slave to my urges, I don't really have the freedom to choose.
  • ahoy_m8ahoy_m8 Member Posts: 2,151 Member Member Posts: 2,151 Member
    Tanie98 wrote: »
    Have you been looked weird for counting calories?

    Have you been looked at weird for weight yo-yo or gaining it all back? I guess that is the choice for some of us.

  • NovusDiesNovusDies Member, Premium Posts: 8,754 Member Member, Premium Posts: 8,754 Member

    I can't help to feel that people might find me weird for constantly track and might have to track calories behind his back if we do move in together. N


    Calorie counting can be a sign of an eating disorder. So I think a partner keeping a sort of vague eye open to that is fair enough, but once it becomes clear that you don't have an eating disorder..this is just your way of maintaining a healthy weight. It's no one's business and you should absolutely not feel you need to hide any aspect of your personality or your general habits.

    "No Bob, this is what makes me feel good and this is what makes me happy" should be all you need to say on the subject. Ever.

    Really? It seems to me that a sign of an eating disorder would be food anxiety and/or compulsive behavior. If someone is calorie counting my first thought is that they want to take better care of themselves. I think watching them for an eating disorder is far-fetched without other signs.
  • J72FITJ72FIT Member Posts: 5,658 Member Member Posts: 5,658 Member
    ahoy_m8 wrote: »
    Tanie98 wrote: »
    Have you been looked weird for counting calories?

    Have you been looked at weird for weight yo-yo or gaining it all back? I guess that is the choice for some of us.

    At the end of the day you have to make yourself happy. If someone else thinks that's weird that's not your problem, that's their problem...
  • sardelsasardelsa Member Posts: 9,772 Member Member Posts: 9,772 Member
    There are people that are going to judge and question the things you do no matter what.

    Do what you need to do and ignore the rest.
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