Am I just Broken? (Is lipo my only hope?)
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I looked over your previous posts (from 2012). It sounded like you were successful up to a point: what were doing that worked to lose weight? What happened when you gained it all back?
To me it sounds like you're not really dedicated yet. Take a moment to think about why you really want to lose weight/get healthy/reach your goals.
I would agree that you should be eating more calories. How much more is up to you (I wouldn't recommend less than 1500/day).
You also need to exercise more. I would suggest at least 30 min 5x a week.
Last: stop drinking on a daily basis. I have nothing against alcohol but I would suggest you cut back to 3-4 drinks on the weekend and stay away from it during the week.
It's a LONG and SLOW process for the most part. Some weeks are good, some are bad, you just have to keep going. Also take pictures and measure to track progress- don't put so much emphasis on the scale.
I wish you the best of luck. You CAN do it! Find something and stick with it. It's not so much about what you do- it's giving 100% to the program you choose.0 -
Lol sorry if my low cal intake is... Shocking. Im using the set point method of appiete supression (consuming 150-300 cals of tastless cals a day) this completely kills any hunger i have until dinner time.
My typical day
1Tbls of coconut oil (120)
1 1/2 scoops of whey protien powder in water or coffee (165)
1 tbls of coconut oil (120)
1/2 can of refried beans 320 cals
Steak 520
1 tbls of grape seed oil 120
1.5 vodka on the rocks 69
That is a prettty typical meal for me the obly variant is my dinner i purposely chose my highest calorie meal for this example.0 -
6'2" male and you are eating 1000-1500 calories a day? EAT MORE!
^^^ THIS!!!!!!!0 -
A cheat day once a week can erase a weekly deficit, depending on what you're consuming during your cheat day.
I'd suggest eating at a reasonable deficit for an entire month, no "cheat days" but one day a week at maintenance would be fine, and then report back.
Log everything. Weigh and measure it.0 -
Lol sorry if my low cal intake is... Shocking. Im using the set point method of appiete supression (consuming 150-300 cals of tastless cals a day) this completely kills any hunger i have until dinner time.
My typical day
1Tbls of coconut oil (120)
1 1/2 scoops of whey protien powder in water or coffee (165)
1 tbls of coconut oil (120)
1/2 can of refried beans 320 cals
Steak 520
1 tbls of grape seed oil 120
1.5 vodka on the rocks 69
That is a prettty typical meal for me the obly variant is my dinner i purposely chose my highest calorie meal for this example.
What kind of life is this?
Do you enjoy eating like this?
I'm sorry, but life is for living and having fun, and enjoying things... starving yourself and drinking every day does not seem like a lot of fun.
Not trying to be judgy, but hun, you sound like you need to seek help - this is not healthy.0 -
Lol sorry if my low cal intake is... Shocking. Im using the set point method of appiete supression (consuming 150-300 cals of tastless cals a day) this completely kills any hunger i have until dinner time.
What? I'm not understanding what you are doing to suppress your appetite? That's what's not working. You need to eat more. I know all you ever hear is eat less and move more to lose weight. It's not true. I eat 1688 a day, I work out 3-4 times a week, 30-45 each time (2x kickboxing, 3x couch to 5k). I'm losing weight. Lately I've just been eating the 1688 and haven't worked out as much because I've been working lots of OT and I'm preparing for a race.
But you can eat what your body NEEDS and still lose weight.0 -
Do this and you *will* lose weight:
1) Three meals a day: breakfast, lunch, and dinner. That's it. No snacks, and no "in between" meals.
2) Give up sugar. No sugar in coffee, soda, or on cereal. Give up fruit juice -- it's mainly just another form of sugar. Water is the only liquid you need.
3) In the beginning, establish a very regulated moderate calorie diet. Don't follow any sort of fad. Just pick a selection of foods that add up to a normal balanced diet -- whole grains, veggies, fruit, dairy, a little meat, etc. But start out by having exactly the same three meals each day -- the same foods and the same amounts. Weigh the portions on a scale. Consider frozen dinners. Healthy Choice, Lean Cuisine, Kashi, Smart Ones and probably other brands have several that are low in calories and saturated fat, 25% daily value or less of sodium, and high in fiber.
4) Weigh yourself every day on a 0.2 lb. accuracy scale. Your weight will fluctuate, but with a constant diet it should trend down over every two or three days. If it doesn't, eliminate items from your diet or reduce the size of portions until your weight does go down. (If you don't have a 0.2 lb. accuracy scale, I'd recommend the EatSmart Precision Plus Digital Scale, which is sold on Amazon.) Don't obsess over the scale — let it be your friend and point the way to a weight losing diet.
5) When you have achieved a weight losing diet, then you can start making adjustments to add variety, but make sure that you keep losing weight.
6) Do regular daily exercise
I would rather be fat than have a daily diet of that stuff.0 -
You want help and advice on what to do to help you lose weight. That's what we are all giving. Your calorie intake isn't 'shocking' but it's a little shocking to think you think you'll lose weight that way. I'm not trying to be mean, horrible, just being honest.0
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Lol sorry if my low cal intake is... Shocking. Im using the set point method of appiete supression (consuming 150-300 cals of tastless cals a day) this completely kills any hunger i have until dinner time.
My typical day
1Tbls of coconut oil (120)
1 1/2 scoops of whey protien powder in water or coffee (165)
1 tbls of coconut oil (120)
1/2 can of refried beans 320 cals
Steak 520
1 tbls of grape seed oil 120
1.5 vodka on the rocks 69
That is a prettty typical meal for me the obly variant is my dinner i purposely chose my highest calorie meal for this example.
Yeah, I'd be doing vodka also if I had a daily diet like this. :huh:0 -
Lol sorry if my low cal intake is... Shocking. Im using the set point method of appiete supression (consuming 150-300 cals of tastless cals a day) this completely kills any hunger i have until dinner time.
My typical day
1Tbls of coconut oil (120)
1 1/2 scoops of whey protien powder in water or coffee (165)
1 tbls of coconut oil (120)
1/2 can of refried beans 320 cals
Steak 520
1 tbls of grape seed oil 120
1.5 vodka on the rocks 69
That is a prettty typical meal for me the obly variant is my dinner i purposely chose my highest calorie meal for this example.
It's not working, is it? If it was, you wouldn't be on here asking why it isn't working. This much LESS isn't better, it isn't effective, and it is bad for you. So why don't you do it the healthy way?0 -
If what you're doing isn't working, DO SOMETHING ELSE. At this point, anything anybody has suggested is better than what you are doing.
Options:
- The regular MFP plan with 1 lb per week weight loss
- In place of a road map
- IIFYM
Pick any one of these and come back in a month. If you haven't lost 4 lbs, I will personally send you a check for $10.0 -
Lol sorry if my low cal intake is... Shocking. Im using the set point method of appiete supression (consuming 150-300 cals of tastless cals a day) this completely kills any hunger i have until dinner time.
My typical day
1Tbls of coconut oil (120)
1 1/2 scoops of whey protien powder in water or coffee (165)
1 tbls of coconut oil (120)
1/2 can of refried beans 320 cals
Steak 520
1 tbls of grape seed oil 120
1.5 vodka on the rocks 69
That is a prettty typical meal for me the obly variant is my dinner i purposely chose my highest calorie meal for this example.
Okay, I'm betting your cheat day is pretty impressive in terms of calories and you're erasing your deficit. If I ate this food every day, I'd eat 6k plus on my "cheat day" and go absolutely insane. Because this diet would destroy my will to live.
Also, vodka is 64 calories an ounce. If you're having 1.5, 69 calories is not correct.0 -
I actually really enjoy it im not hungry at all and my dinners are my favorite meals! Steaks, salmon, brocoloi beans! The apiete supression is a result of the coconut oil. If you take a tbls spoon of it holding your nose (like you would medicine) an hour before you eat anything! (Usually do it with my daily vitmians in the morning) it completely eliminates all your feelings of hunger I am in know way starving i have plenty of energy) my vodka is bc I enjoy sipping on it while i watch madmen
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I actually really enjoy it im not hungry at all and my dinners are my favorite meals! Steaks, salmon, brocoloi beans!
Well, of course it's your favorite meal. It's your ONLY meal.0 -
You're not broken yet but you will be if you keep that kind of eating up. Refried beans are loaded with sodium as well which makes you retain water.
Do any of the three VorJoshigan suggested and add a strength training program in addition to more cardio exercise. Or if nothing else look at the food pyramid for daily serving suggestions of fruits, vegetables, and meat.0 -
Lol i ment my favorite meal as in my favorite foods!
I know it sounds a little silly but I mean I really truly am not hungry or lacking energy i just spent 4 hours doing hard work (setting up an entire bbq for 500 people with heavy lifting and moving and i had plenty of energy!) 0 -
-Try getting calories from actual food instead of vodka and coconut oil
-MFP should give you enough calories to work with every day that you don't need a "cheat" meal
-Eat the calories MFP recommends
-Exercise more
-Seriously, eat real food.0 -
Stop trying to make it more complicated than it is. "Set point method of appetite suppression" - what the heck?
Listen to what people are telling you about accurately recording cals in and cals out. Eat at a reasonable deficiit. Give the program time.0 -
Lol sorry if my low cal intake is... Shocking. Im using the set point method of appiete supression (consuming 150-300 cals of tastless cals a day) this completely kills any hunger i have until dinner time.
My typical day
1Tbls of coconut oil (120)
1 1/2 scoops of whey protien powder in water or coffee (165)
1 tbls of coconut oil (120)
1/2 can of refried beans 320 cals
Steak 520
1 tbls of grape seed oil 120
1.5 vodka on the rocks 69
That is a prettty typical meal for me the obly variant is my dinner i purposely chose my highest calorie meal for this example.
So basically you are doing it all wrong and think you are "broken"? Follow the standard guideline of calories in v. calories out - eat 20% less than your TDEE. You don't need to cut carbs, and certainly don't need to do this BS. And stop drinking every day (4oz of vodka is more like 280 cals...and mad men doesn't come on every day). Do this for a month and come back and tell us how well it worked now that you weren't following some gimmick.0 -
Tyler. You are not a failure or a loser or hopeless or any of those things you describe. Failure depends upon your definition of success. As the Wizard of Oz said (in the Wizard Of Oz): 'No man is a failure who has friends'.
So... if there is just ONE person (or animal) who cares about you and is your friend, in this world, then you are (whether you like it or not) a success. Perspective.
Good luck on your journey :-)
Jenny xxx0 -
two weeks really isn't enough time the weight isn't going to melt off and it will take time. I would eat more if I was you and I would still eat some carbs...im pretty sure the alcohol has carbs in it to just not the kind you want and having a cheat day makes you feel like you are depriving yourself. Plus you don't wanna cheat a whole day, more like enjoy a favorite meal or snack you normally wouldn't have.0
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Lol i ment my favorite meal as in my favorite foods! I know it sounds a little silly but I mean I really truly am not hungry or lacking energy i just spent 4 hours doing hard work (setting up an entire bbq for 500 people with heavy lifting and moving and i had plenty of energy!)
not trying to be a jerk, but why ask for advice if you're not going to listen to any of it?0 -
Lol i ment my favorite meal as in my favorite foods! I know it sounds a little silly but I mean I really truly am not hungry or lacking energy i just spent 4 hours doing hard work (setting up an entire bbq for 500 people with heavy lifting and moving and i had plenty of energy!)
not trying to be a jerk, but why ask for advice if you're not going to listen to any of it?
It wouldn't feel like MFP without people doing that...0 -
This.Lol sorry if my low cal intake is... Shocking. Im using the set point method of appiete supression (consuming 150-300 cals of tastless cals a day) this completely kills any hunger i have until dinner time.
My typical day
1Tbls of coconut oil (120)
1 1/2 scoops of whey protien powder in water or coffee (165)
1 tbls of coconut oil (120)
1/2 can of refried beans 320 cals
Steak 520
1 tbls of grape seed oil 120
1.5 vodka on the rocks 69
That is a prettty typical meal for me the obly variant is my dinner i purposely chose my highest calorie meal for this example.
What kind of life is this?
Do you enjoy eating like this?
I'm sorry, but life is for living and having fun, and enjoying things... starving yourself and drinking every day does not seem like a lot of fun.
Not trying to be judgy, but hun, you sound like you need to seek help - this is not healthy.
I find "foods that I like in reasonable portions" to be an effective appetite supressant.
Also, if you're not logging your 'cheat day' you might be eating at a surplus by the end of the week. If you're going to do a cheat day you need to ensure you actually log everything and maintain a deficit over the course of a week, which would probably be in the ballpark of 14,000-15,000 calories per week.0 -
Lol i ment my favorite meal as in my favorite foods! I know it sounds a little silly but I mean I really truly am not hungry or lacking energy i just spent 4 hours doing hard work (setting up an entire bbq for 500 people with heavy lifting and moving and i had plenty of energy!)
not trying to be a jerk, but why ask for advice if you're not going to listen to any of it?
This is the internet, where people go expecting strangers to reinforce their per-conceived ideas, just like their friends. Then when they receive genuine, open advice and criticism, complain that people are mean.0 -
Lol i ment my favorite meal as in my favorite foods! I know it sounds a little silly but I mean I really truly am not hungry or lacking energy i just spent 4 hours doing hard work (setting up an entire bbq for 500 people with heavy lifting and moving and i had plenty of energy!)
not trying to be a jerk, but why ask for advice if you're not going to listen to any of it?
I'm going to say this and then I'm out. Washing my hands of this. I'm going to be completely honest, which I'm sure you'll take it as "she's being mean to me" because I am NOT going to coddle you, sugar coat it or tell you what you want to hear.
You are not broken. You will be with your continued eating habits and it'll be that much harder to ever get any of it off because you will have messed your metabolism up so bad, it won't know what to do.
You asked for help, you asked for advice, yet you continually ignore it. You are choosing to stay the way you are. You don't want it bad enough. When you do want it bad enough then you will actually listen and consider taking what we all have said under advisement.
I've lost 44 lbs EATING FOOD. REAL FOOD. No short cuts, no quick fixes, eating foods I love and want to eat. Whatever I want to eat/drink. So yeah, I must not know anything about this at all.
So go ahead, keep doing what your doing which is obviously not working and I'll continue playing the worlds smallest violin for you over here. Because you don't want help. You want someone to tell you what you want to hear, which is keep doing what you're doing or even eat less. So there, it's been said, though that is NOT my advice.
The definition of insanity is to keep doing the exact same thing you have been doing and expect different results.
So go ahead. Keep at it.0 -
Jesus. Some of you vultures need to give the kid a break.
People can be vulnerable. It's both wise and kind to judge a person's vulnerability before venting your anger and frustration on them.
Learn to control your own behaviour before attacking someone else for theirs.0 -
Jesus. Some of you vultures need to give the kid a break.
I think you should refine your term of vultures. This kid is 21 years old and is potentially starving, drinking and drinking himself into significant and possibly long term body damage.
People are being hard because he needs to know that someone his size and age cannot live how he is living without it being dangerous.
That isn't vulture. That is intervention.0 -
Jesus. Some of you vultures need to give the kid a break.
I think you should refine your term of vultures. This kid is 21 years old and is potentially starving, drinking and drinking himself into significant and possibly long term body damage.
People are being hard because he needs to know that someone his size and age cannot live how he is living without it being dangerous.
That isn't vulture. That is intervention.
Thank you.
Hildy, did you even read the 3 pages of this thread? Him wanting to know what he's doing wrong, we're all trying to give him advice on what he should be doing, which is basic taking care of himself advice. Every time he comes back with how he likes what he's doing now, but it's not working, but he likes it, and doesn't want to change it. I said in my last post that I was going to be honest and I was. I've actually been in his shoes before and you know what helped me? PEOPLE BEING BRUTALLY HONEST. Not the ones that said, "Oh there, there, it'll be alright, you're doing great!" You know who I appreciate more know than ever, those that were honest with me. No one here needs to be coddled, and I'm sorry if I didn't sugar coat what I said, which I said I wasn't going to. Nothing I said was out of anger or frustration. I said what he NEEDED to hear not what he wants to hear.
So maybe before you call someone a vulture or decide I'm mean and the kid needs to be cut a break, maybe you should actually look into the kids behavior first. Maybe see how much the kid is drinking day in and day out and starving himself. Yeah, let's just cut him a break and let him continue to harm himself. That's great advice.0 -
Juuuust clarify... Im not mad! I dont think you guys are being mean and im not vunerable x) im just a 21 year old guy whos been all over the dieting world and trying to just get something that will work and work long term i appreciate everything you guys have told me and i am completely open to your advice! I am big on self experimentation and will treat any solid plan you guys give me as such and treat it with an open mind id like to get to my ideal wieght and bf (185-200) 10-15% bf in six months. What do you think is a realistic caloric deficit to achieve this and keep in mind large amounts of exercise really isnt an option until the next year due to my last year of 21 units in college and a job! Thanks again for the help advice and motovation that im not broken! 0
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