Introducing oatmeal
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corinasue1143 wrote: »It also has xantham. I don’t Use xantham, so I don’t know, but isn’t that used to bulk up volume, per volume eaters thread?
Or am I mistaken?
It's a thickener. It'll make the oatmeal a little less watery.0 -
RelCanonical wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »You're paying a huge premium for two common foods (oats and protein powder) mixed together and not even because you want more protein, but just to "dilute" the carbohydrates. 30 grams of carbohydrates is a perfectly reasonable amount. Carb phobia is one of the silliest diet fads of our times.
I wonder when protein will become the new villain. Before it was fat, now it's carbs, perhaps protein is next.
Read some of the really bad vegan *advocacy* sites. It's already here, if you visit the right (wrong?) neighborhoods.
Having a sub-convo on another thread about Dr. Greger (the quack behind the ironically-named nutritionfacts web site) talking about how leucine - y'know, a key amino acid needed for better muscle protein synthesis? - will shorten your lifespan. 🙄 (Don't believe me? https://nutritionfacts.org/2015/06/16/living-longer-by-reducing-leucine-intake/).
Other readers: I have nothing against veganism. I'm a vegetarian - 46 years now. I have something against anti-scientific idiots.
Da fahq is wrong with you? Why are you going to turn your response into a personal attack?
Greger is a person who does not provide sound evidence-based advice, IMO (which is not an expert professional one, I freely admit). As far as I know, terms of service permit me to make baldly critical statements about 3rd parties who position themselves as experts. If you disagree, feel free to flag my post for terms of service review by the moderators. I will take the results like a grown-up. I am not attacking nor have I criticized you, or any other user posting here. Strictly speaking, the phrase you bolded is about "really bad vegan *advocacy* sites" not specifically Greger (though I did criticize him personally in the preceding paragraph).
This is a site that IMO provides better nutritional advice for vegans: https://veganhealth.org/ . Feel free to criticize it in whatever way you find appropriate. (I'm very unlikely to flag the result, if you do, even if there's a personal attack on me involved. For example, I've not flagged the post I'm responding to. (No idea whether anyone else will, but if it happens, it wasn't me, guaranteed.))
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OP, do you have insulin resistance or diabetes, or some similar health condition? Those can require a person to manage carbs carefully, I know. Beyond that, some people find carbs spike appetite, and that's reason enough for an individual to limit them.
Beyond that - and I mention this because it sounds like you've missed eating oatmeal - restricting carbs isn't universally essential for weight loss, nutrition, or health, as others have observed.
I love oatmeal, eat 30g of the whole rolled oats (cooked) pretty much every day, with fixins, and have eaten them all the way through losing 50 pounds, and 5 years of maintaining a healthy weight since.
The oats itself has (per MFP database) 20.3g carbs, and 0.3g sugar (inherent in the oats, not added). (But by the time I add my maintenance-calories fixins and sides, the whole meal has 79g carbs, and 41g sugars (12.5g added sugar, in the form of blackstrap molasses that brings a lot of potassium and iron plus other good things with it, the rest of the sugars inherent). I do put some extra seeds in it, and more molasses, than I did while losing weight, because those calories cuts for weight loss have to come from somewhere.) Oatmeal is delicious and filling, for me.
Either way, I'm glad you've found an oatmeal that satisfies you, and meets your nutritional goals. Finding the ways to stay full and happy, while managing calories and nutrition, is kind of where the magic is. Good show! 🙂3 -
RelCanonical wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »You're paying a huge premium for two common foods (oats and protein powder) mixed together and not even because you want more protein, but just to "dilute" the carbohydrates. 30 grams of carbohydrates is a perfectly reasonable amount. Carb phobia is one of the silliest diet fads of our times.
I wonder when protein will become the new villain. Before it was fat, now it's carbs, perhaps protein is next.
It already is for some in the WFPB community (many of those who cite the China Study are anti protein or at least pro limiting protein (not just from animal sources, but total amount)).
Yep, you will see stuff like "People eat too much protein" frequently in those circles.2 -
RelCanonical wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »You're paying a huge premium for two common foods (oats and protein powder) mixed together and not even because you want more protein, but just to "dilute" the carbohydrates. 30 grams of carbohydrates is a perfectly reasonable amount. Carb phobia is one of the silliest diet fads of our times.
I wonder when protein will become the new villain. Before it was fat, now it's carbs, perhaps protein is next.
Read some of the really bad vegan *advocacy* sites. It's already here, if you visit the right (wrong?) neighborhoods.
Having a sub-convo on another thread about Dr. Greger (the quack behind the ironically-named nutritionfacts web site) talking about how leucine - y'know, a key amino acid needed for better muscle protein synthesis? - will shorten your lifespan. 🙄 (Don't believe me? https://nutritionfacts.org/2015/06/16/living-longer-by-reducing-leucine-intake/).
Other readers: I have nothing against veganism. I'm a vegetarian - 46 years now. I have something against anti-scientific idiots.
Da fahq is wrong with you? Why are you going to turn your response into a personal attack?
Have you read Greger? He earned that label.9 -
There is nothing wrong with carbs. Oatmeal is good for you in many ways. It has soluble fiber and doesn’t raise blood glucose the way some refined carbs do so even diabetics can eat it. You can buy unsweetened and then sweeten yourself.5
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Another twist is not sweetening it at all! I discovered savory oats thanks to MFP - cooked in chicken stock with sausage, mushrooms, garlic, onion, cheese, and an egg on top. The first bite played tricks on my brain, but oh so tasty!6
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I like raw rolled oats. Add about 1/3 to my otherwise too sweet breakfast cereal and milk. I think it aids digestion - at least for me.3
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moonangel12 wrote: »Another twist is not sweetening it at all! I discovered savory oats thanks to MFP - cooked in chicken stock with sausage, mushrooms, garlic, onion, cheese, and an egg on top. The first bite played tricks on my brain, but oh so tasty!
I agree! I vaguely remember a recipe I tried that had peas, parmesan cheese, and a few other things mixed in it. It was delicious...now I'm going to have to go dig it up. Thanks for that reminder!1 -
I like savory oats too -- never made it all that complicated, but added eggs (a bit runny over easy) and spinach and maybe some other veg. I also tried adding eggs, spinach, cauliflower, and blueberries, which was a bit weird but tasty.
Oats seem to me to work when rice or grits or some other grain would.4 -
Sounds like a typical diet industry rip off by charging an excessive amount of money for tiny amounts of food.
"Regular store oatmeal has over 30 g of carbohydrates!" - why is that an issue for you OP?
As someone who puts 60 - 80g of rolled oats into his porridge this seems a tiny amount and not warranting an exclamation mark.5 -
Plain oatmeal has no sugar in it but whether, it's plain or sugared, its all composed of carbs in 1 form or another and any excess carbs not used by the body eventually will be converted to fat.
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I love oatmeal 💟2
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I love oats and eat tonnes. I’m not a diabetic but can suffer from blood sugar issues, but bizarrely oats never give me a noticeable spike. They’re delicious, whether in porridge with milk, flapjack laden with sugar and butter as a treat, ground up and used in pancakes instead of flour... as part of a varied diet there is nothing wrong with them.1
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Just had a look at what my typical breakfast looks like.
It's basically non-liquid-y joghurt with raisins, oats for fill and even more to chew on, and the fruit of the day. Today it was green grapes. Lots of sugar, lots of carbs. Lots of chew on. Keeps me full for a while.
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moonangel12 wrote: »Another twist is not sweetening it at all! I discovered savory oats thanks to MFP - cooked in chicken stock with sausage, mushrooms, garlic, onion, cheese, and an egg on top. The first bite played tricks on my brain, but oh so tasty!
Oooh I haven’t tried this! I too am a savory oatmeal fan. I eat mine with 1/2 serving of cheddar cheese (weighed in grams of course) and a sunny side up egg on top. I add pepper, garlic powder, and paprika.
OP as I mentioned in your introductory thread, you don’t have to go low carb to lose weight, nor is it absolutely necessary for pre diabetes (which you said you had). I come from a family of diabetics and so does my husband and several family members inn both sides (including myself) were able to get back to normal blood sugars and out of the prediabetic category via weight loss and diet (in the sense of no longer eating every sweet in sight). None of those who were successful on either side of the family specifically limited carbs. This is of course, not scientific and you can do some research or speak to your doctor or dietician to decide if you can try that to get back to normal blood sugars, but trying to vastly restrict yourself if you don’t ABSOLUTELY need to will most likely backfire.1 -
Oats are a healthy, whole grain, whole food. I use a food processor and make oat flour out of oats. I also love over night oats, various mix ins. A very cheap and versatile food staple in my kitchen.2
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cmriverside wrote: »There is not a way to "remove" carbs from a grain. A serving (40g) of whole rolled oats is 27g of carbs. Now, if they added sugar to your store brand that would account for some of the carbs, but if your new type of oats is just oats? Then maybe the portion is a lot smaller than 40g.
Some weight loss products just cut the portion in half and that would cause lowered numbers. By those stats it looks like they lowered the oats and added protein powder?
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Thank you i thought of that too.... eating less oatmeal so the carbs dont add up.1
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Hi Lisa - I see on your other thread that you were avoiding carbs because you were diabetic but are no longer diabetic after losing weight - congrats!
I understand that you are still worried about carbs.
Perhaps you can get a referral to a registered dietitian who can ease you back into eating carbs?5
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