Introducing oatmeal
lisa1225anne
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I havent had oatmeal in 1 year because of the high carbohydrates and sugar. This past week i went to Pounds Transformation weightloss clinic and bought oatmeal with apples & cinnamon. Has 10 carbs, 2 g sugar, 15 g protein & 110 calories. The rest of the day i ate green salad with rolled turkey & cheese. Regular store oatmeal has over 30 g of carbohydrates!
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There is not a way to "remove" carbs from a grain. A serving (40g) of whole rolled oats is 27g of carbs. Now, if they added sugar to your store brand that would account for some of the carbs, but if your new type of oats is just oats? Then maybe the portion is a lot smaller than 40g.
Some weight loss products just cut the portion in half and that would cause lowered numbers. By those stats it looks like they lowered the oats and added protein powder?8 -
Do some research on oatmeal. I think you will be surprised.1
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lisa1225anne wrote: »I havent had oatmeal in 1 year because of the high carbohydrates and sugar. This past week i went to Pounds Transformation weightloss clinic and bought oatmeal with apples & cinnamon. Has 10 carbs, 2 g sugar, 15 g protein & 110. The rest of the day i ate green salad with rolled turkey & cheese. Regular store oatmeal has over 30 g of carbohydrates!
That must be a tiny portion of oatmeal...or it's not really oatmeal, because there's no way a serving of actual oatmeal is only 10 carbs and 15 grams of protein...especially with an apple.
Oatmeal is actually really good for you...there's nothing wrong with carbs and oats are a nice whole grain choice of quality carbohydrates.
ETA:; whole grain oats aren't high in sugar...they don't even have sugar at all. The carbohydrates in oats are fiber and starch...no sugar.13 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »lisa1225anne wrote: »I havent had oatmeal in 1 year because of the high carbohydrates and sugar. This past week i went to Pounds Transformation weightloss clinic and bought oatmeal with apples & cinnamon. Has 10 carbs, 2 g sugar, 15 g protein & 110. The rest of the day i ate green salad with rolled turkey & cheese. Regular store oatmeal has over 30 g of carbohydrates!
That must be a tiny portion of oatmeal...or it's not really oatmeal, because there's no way a serving of actual oatmeal is only 10 carbs and 15 grams of protein...especially with an apple.
Oatmeal is actually really good for you...there's nothing wrong with carbs and oats are a nice whole grain choice of quality carbohydrates.
It's oats with soy protein mixed in, along with being a smaller portion size (most oats serving sizes I see are 40g, this is just under 29). https://poundstransformation.store/collections/default-category-food-products-breakfast/products/pounds-apple-cinnamon-oatmeal4 -
Went to the website. 1 packet is 29.5 grams. Soy protein and milk protein isolate are the second and third ingredients. Instant oats are, at least, the first.
But, God, $11.99 for 7 packets?
*hugs her $1.99 tub of Quaker oats*15 -
Went to the website. 1 packet is 29.5 grams. Soy protein and milk protein isolate are the second and third ingredients. Instant oats are, at least, the first.
But, God, $11.99 for 7 packets?
*hugs her $1.99 tub of Quaker oats*
Huh, put that way, sounds like it would be much cheaper overall to just buy oats and protein powder.12 -
You're paying a huge premium for two common foods (oats and protein powder) mixed together and not even because you want more protein, but just to "dilute" the carbohydrates. 30 grams of carbohydrates is a perfectly reasonable amount. Carb phobia is one of the silliest diet fads of our times.18
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janejellyroll wrote: »You're paying a huge premium for two common foods (oats and protein powder) mixed together and not even because you want more protein, but just to "dilute" the carbohydrates. 30 grams of carbohydrates is a perfectly reasonable amount. Carb phobia is one of the silliest diet fads of our times.
I wonder when protein will become the new villain. Before it was fat, now it's carbs, perhaps protein is next.6 -
RelCanonical wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »You're paying a huge premium for two common foods (oats and protein powder) mixed together and not even because you want more protein, but just to "dilute" the carbohydrates. 30 grams of carbohydrates is a perfectly reasonable amount. Carb phobia is one of the silliest diet fads of our times.
I wonder when protein will become the new villain. Before it was fat, now it's carbs, perhaps protein is next.
I don't think that will ever happen.0 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »RelCanonical wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »You're paying a huge premium for two common foods (oats and protein powder) mixed together and not even because you want more protein, but just to "dilute" the carbohydrates. 30 grams of carbohydrates is a perfectly reasonable amount. Carb phobia is one of the silliest diet fads of our times.
I wonder when protein will become the new villain. Before it was fat, now it's carbs, perhaps protein is next.
I don't think that will ever happen.
You have more faith in humanity than me.10 -
RelCanonical wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »You're paying a huge premium for two common foods (oats and protein powder) mixed together and not even because you want more protein, but just to "dilute" the carbohydrates. 30 grams of carbohydrates is a perfectly reasonable amount. Carb phobia is one of the silliest diet fads of our times.
I wonder when protein will become the new villain. Before it was fat, now it's carbs, perhaps protein is next.
We could start a rumor!
"Protein absorption is sooooooo slow. Who wants that? Carbs are so much better for you. Especially when it's from chocolate."*
*We may or may not have received a gift tower of chocolate from a client yesterday and I may or may not have scarfed down 600 calories worth before paying attention to calories I didn't really have because of the cookies another client sent Monday.
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lisa1225anne wrote: »Regular store oatmeal has over 30 g of carbohydrates!
As others have noted, the carbs, protein, cals (and fat), as well as sugar, depend on what you add.
I'm not into oats at the moment, but at one time it was my favorite breakfast (and I lost weight just fine eating it). Mine (Bob's Red Mill steel cut oats) had 170 cals and 31 carbs, 5 g protein, 1 g sugar in one serving (which is what I usually ate). I typically added some blueberries or strawberries (which added carbs and specifically sugar) plus protein powder (which added about 110 cals and 20 g of protein). Sorry, neither the carbs, the sugar (a subset of carbs), nor the cals horrify me.
I switched just because I tend to change my favorite breakfast after a while.1 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »ETA:; whole grain oats aren't high in sugar...they don't even have sugar at all. The carbohydrates in oats are fiber and starch...no sugar.
They have a tiny bit of inherent sugar, although I'm sure that's not what OP is all worried about.2 -
RelCanonical wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »You're paying a huge premium for two common foods (oats and protein powder) mixed together and not even because you want more protein, but just to "dilute" the carbohydrates. 30 grams of carbohydrates is a perfectly reasonable amount. Carb phobia is one of the silliest diet fads of our times.
I wonder when protein will become the new villain. Before it was fat, now it's carbs, perhaps protein is next.
It already is for some in the WFPB community (many of those who cite the China Study are anti protein or at least pro limiting protein (not just from animal sources, but total amount)).2 -
northviewvintage wrote: »How to Eat Oatmeal · 19 November 2001
When it comes to mornings I am a confident coffee-drinker, cigarette-smoker and pill-swallower; I am also a task-avoider, phone-ignorer and a staunch advocate of delayed rising. In negotiating the vast expanse of time that falls before noon I am also preoccupied with breakfast.
With the exception of kedgeree and white cake muffins, I like all known forms of breakfast, but I like oatmeal most.
There’s no point pretending that oatmeal is anything but a dour grain stigmatised by centuries of Scottish poverty and the feedbags of horses. But it must be eaten – for health and spiritual well-being – and it must be eaten right.
What you will need: a coffee cup, a clean cotton cloth, a bowl, a spoon, a heavy-bottomed pot (with lid) and a stove, water, salt, brown sugar, cream, and of course oatmeal: none of this ‘quick’ folderol in a cardboard tube or (for heaven’s sake!) instant nukable crap in foil packets with flavourings of fruit and spice. You will need oats. Rolled oats. You can buy them bulk, or in a bag, for not much money. You will need already to have consumed some of your morning coffee: this is careful work and you can’t make oatmeal in a haze.
Decide how many souls deserve your oatmeal this morning (it may only be you, it may only be you), and with the coffee cup measure out (cold!) water from the tap: two cupsful for each person, into the pot. When the water is measured out, dip your cup into the pot and steal some back. Onto the fire. Between your thumb and forefinger take a pinch from the ramekin of sea salt beside the stove and add to the water. (Should you not have a ramekin of sea salt beside the stove, you don’t deserve oatmeal.)
While the water heats, carefully dry out the coffee cup with the cloth, making sure not to leave a hint of moisture behind. Just as the water boils, add oatmeal, one cupful per person, in a gentle, rocking side-to-side pour (had you not dried the inside of the cup, there would be a sticky mess of oat crumbs inside, but because you did there’s only a dusting of oat flour, see? So much better).
With your spoon, stir. Turn the fire down to its weakest point, leave off the lid and go open the paper. Do not set a timer or consult the wall clock, because you are honing instinct. When all water has been absorbed, after, say, two front-page articles, turn off the fire, put on the lid, and read one more front-page article.
Note, as you scoop into the bowl, how the oat grains have puffed up to a lovely fat creamy consistency. Sprinkle brown sugar on, then pour cream (do it the other way around, you don’t deserve oatmeal).
--Dean Allen
Good copypasta right here.4 -
RelCanonical wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »You're paying a huge premium for two common foods (oats and protein powder) mixed together and not even because you want more protein, but just to "dilute" the carbohydrates. 30 grams of carbohydrates is a perfectly reasonable amount. Carb phobia is one of the silliest diet fads of our times.
I wonder when protein will become the new villain. Before it was fat, now it's carbs, perhaps protein is next.
Read some of the really bad vegan *advocacy* sites. It's already here, if you visit the right (wrong?) neighborhoods.
Having a sub-convo on another thread about Dr. Greger (the quack behind the ironically-named nutritionfacts web site) talking about how leucine - y'know, a key amino acid needed for better muscle protein synthesis? - will shorten your lifespan. 🙄 (Don't believe me? https://nutritionfacts.org/2015/06/16/living-longer-by-reducing-leucine-intake/).
Other readers: I have nothing against veganism. I'm a vegetarian - 46 years now. I have something against anti-scientific idiots.12 -
RelCanonical wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »You're paying a huge premium for two common foods (oats and protein powder) mixed together and not even because you want more protein, but just to "dilute" the carbohydrates. 30 grams of carbohydrates is a perfectly reasonable amount. Carb phobia is one of the silliest diet fads of our times.
I wonder when protein will become the new villain. Before it was fat, now it's carbs, perhaps protein is next.
Read some of the really bad vegan *advocacy* sites. It's already here, if you visit the right (wrong?) neighborhoods.
Having a sub-convo on another thread about Dr. Greger (the quack behind the ironically-named nutritionfacts web site) talking about how leucine - y'know, a key amino acid needed for better muscle protein synthesis? - will shorten your lifespan. 🙄 (Don't believe me? https://nutritionfacts.org/2015/06/16/living-longer-by-reducing-leucine-intake/).
Other readers: I have nothing against veganism. I'm a vegetarian - 46 years now. I have something against anti-scientific idiots.
Da fahq is wrong with you? Why are you going to turn your response into a personal attack?2 -
From Samuel Johnson's Dictionary of the English Language:
"Oats. n.s. [aten, Saxon.] A grain, which in England is generally given to horses, but in Scotland supports the people."8 -
It also has xantham. I don’t Use xantham, so I don’t know, but isn’t that used to bulk up volume, per volume eaters thread?
Or am I mistaken?
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From Samuel Johnson's Dictionary of the English Language:
"Oats. n.s. [aten, Saxon.] A grain, which in England is generally given to horses, but in Scotland supports the people."
Decades ago, I belonged to a food coop, came home with a 25# bag of oats, and my then-husband said, "Are we getting a horse?"10 -
corinasue1143 wrote: »It also has xantham. I don’t Use xantham, so I don’t know, but isn’t that used to bulk up volume, per volume eaters thread?
Or am I mistaken?
It's a thickener. It'll make the oatmeal a little less watery.0 -
RelCanonical wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »You're paying a huge premium for two common foods (oats and protein powder) mixed together and not even because you want more protein, but just to "dilute" the carbohydrates. 30 grams of carbohydrates is a perfectly reasonable amount. Carb phobia is one of the silliest diet fads of our times.
I wonder when protein will become the new villain. Before it was fat, now it's carbs, perhaps protein is next.
Read some of the really bad vegan *advocacy* sites. It's already here, if you visit the right (wrong?) neighborhoods.
Having a sub-convo on another thread about Dr. Greger (the quack behind the ironically-named nutritionfacts web site) talking about how leucine - y'know, a key amino acid needed for better muscle protein synthesis? - will shorten your lifespan. 🙄 (Don't believe me? https://nutritionfacts.org/2015/06/16/living-longer-by-reducing-leucine-intake/).
Other readers: I have nothing against veganism. I'm a vegetarian - 46 years now. I have something against anti-scientific idiots.
Da fahq is wrong with you? Why are you going to turn your response into a personal attack?
Greger is a person who does not provide sound evidence-based advice, IMO (which is not an expert professional one, I freely admit). As far as I know, terms of service permit me to make baldly critical statements about 3rd parties who position themselves as experts. If you disagree, feel free to flag my post for terms of service review by the moderators. I will take the results like a grown-up. I am not attacking nor have I criticized you, or any other user posting here. Strictly speaking, the phrase you bolded is about "really bad vegan *advocacy* sites" not specifically Greger (though I did criticize him personally in the preceding paragraph).
This is a site that IMO provides better nutritional advice for vegans: https://veganhealth.org/ . Feel free to criticize it in whatever way you find appropriate. (I'm very unlikely to flag the result, if you do, even if there's a personal attack on me involved. For example, I've not flagged the post I'm responding to. (No idea whether anyone else will, but if it happens, it wasn't me, guaranteed.))
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OP, do you have insulin resistance or diabetes, or some similar health condition? Those can require a person to manage carbs carefully, I know. Beyond that, some people find carbs spike appetite, and that's reason enough for an individual to limit them.
Beyond that - and I mention this because it sounds like you've missed eating oatmeal - restricting carbs isn't universally essential for weight loss, nutrition, or health, as others have observed.
I love oatmeal, eat 30g of the whole rolled oats (cooked) pretty much every day, with fixins, and have eaten them all the way through losing 50 pounds, and 5 years of maintaining a healthy weight since.
The oats itself has (per MFP database) 20.3g carbs, and 0.3g sugar (inherent in the oats, not added). (But by the time I add my maintenance-calories fixins and sides, the whole meal has 79g carbs, and 41g sugars (12.5g added sugar, in the form of blackstrap molasses that brings a lot of potassium and iron plus other good things with it, the rest of the sugars inherent). I do put some extra seeds in it, and more molasses, than I did while losing weight, because those calories cuts for weight loss have to come from somewhere.) Oatmeal is delicious and filling, for me.
Either way, I'm glad you've found an oatmeal that satisfies you, and meets your nutritional goals. Finding the ways to stay full and happy, while managing calories and nutrition, is kind of where the magic is. Good show! 🙂3 -
RelCanonical wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »You're paying a huge premium for two common foods (oats and protein powder) mixed together and not even because you want more protein, but just to "dilute" the carbohydrates. 30 grams of carbohydrates is a perfectly reasonable amount. Carb phobia is one of the silliest diet fads of our times.
I wonder when protein will become the new villain. Before it was fat, now it's carbs, perhaps protein is next.
It already is for some in the WFPB community (many of those who cite the China Study are anti protein or at least pro limiting protein (not just from animal sources, but total amount)).
Yep, you will see stuff like "People eat too much protein" frequently in those circles.2 -
RelCanonical wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »You're paying a huge premium for two common foods (oats and protein powder) mixed together and not even because you want more protein, but just to "dilute" the carbohydrates. 30 grams of carbohydrates is a perfectly reasonable amount. Carb phobia is one of the silliest diet fads of our times.
I wonder when protein will become the new villain. Before it was fat, now it's carbs, perhaps protein is next.
Read some of the really bad vegan *advocacy* sites. It's already here, if you visit the right (wrong?) neighborhoods.
Having a sub-convo on another thread about Dr. Greger (the quack behind the ironically-named nutritionfacts web site) talking about how leucine - y'know, a key amino acid needed for better muscle protein synthesis? - will shorten your lifespan. 🙄 (Don't believe me? https://nutritionfacts.org/2015/06/16/living-longer-by-reducing-leucine-intake/).
Other readers: I have nothing against veganism. I'm a vegetarian - 46 years now. I have something against anti-scientific idiots.
Da fahq is wrong with you? Why are you going to turn your response into a personal attack?
Have you read Greger? He earned that label.9 -
There is nothing wrong with carbs. Oatmeal is good for you in many ways. It has soluble fiber and doesn’t raise blood glucose the way some refined carbs do so even diabetics can eat it. You can buy unsweetened and then sweeten yourself.5
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Another twist is not sweetening it at all! I discovered savory oats thanks to MFP - cooked in chicken stock with sausage, mushrooms, garlic, onion, cheese, and an egg on top. The first bite played tricks on my brain, but oh so tasty!6
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I like raw rolled oats. Add about 1/3 to my otherwise too sweet breakfast cereal and milk. I think it aids digestion - at least for me.3
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moonangel12 wrote: »Another twist is not sweetening it at all! I discovered savory oats thanks to MFP - cooked in chicken stock with sausage, mushrooms, garlic, onion, cheese, and an egg on top. The first bite played tricks on my brain, but oh so tasty!
I agree! I vaguely remember a recipe I tried that had peas, parmesan cheese, and a few other things mixed in it. It was delicious...now I'm going to have to go dig it up. Thanks for that reminder!1 -
I like savory oats too -- never made it all that complicated, but added eggs (a bit runny over easy) and spinach and maybe some other veg. I also tried adding eggs, spinach, cauliflower, and blueberries, which was a bit weird but tasty.
Oats seem to me to work when rice or grits or some other grain would.4
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