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This Infuriates Me
springlering62
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This is a protein bar brand I really like. Went to check out their cookies, which are headlined on Amazon as having 16gr protein. Yay!
Well, folks, this is why we drill down into the details when logging food.
I can’t tell you how mad and frustrated this kind of nutrition labeling makes me. Come ON,folks!!!!
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Wow! That is really bad.
It's ridiculous, a serving size 1/3 of a cookie ... well that just takes the biscuit (sorry couldn't resist the pun) It is totally disingenuous when food manufacturers do this.
There is a jar of simmer sauce I get occasionally, when cooked with chicken it makes about 3-4 modest portions, but on the label, it says there are 7 servings per jar. Not as bad as a third of a cookie, but it always irritates me.
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So each whole cookie is 390 cal.???? Yikes!! These better be dinner plate sized.
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Man, that's a high calorie cookie. Might be time to change to another.
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So funny that "healthy" cookie is more calories than a cheeseburger from McDonald's.
CICO is so important and so is label knowledge.10 -
So each whole cookie is 390 cal.???? Yikes!! These better be dinner plate sized.
400, per the package.
For that “price” I can eat a fresh baked saucer sized peanut butter cookie from Lidl’s bakery that really is worth it, lol. Or three servings of chocolate graham crackers.
I don’t get it. This brand’s (Nugo) protein bars are reasonable calories and clearly labeled. And probably tastier than this protein cookie? What’s the deal with all these protein cookie brands? Do they just play on the mindset of “oh it’s a protein cookie it must be healthy?” Or is a protein cookie that stellar that I’m missing out on something?
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Well all grain-based bakery products technically have protein.
I mean, my regular multigrain English Muffin has 6g. Those cookies are pretty bad in the numbers. Look at the fat!2 -
who the hell eats 1/3 of a cookie? oh my lord LOL5
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I question the whole fake protein market. But, those candy bars are just . . uh . . stupid.3
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I've never had supplements except B12 and D3.
If a professional contest winning bodybuilder like Robert Cheeke creates a successful career with no protein supplements, why should I need any?0 -
Never heard of the guy and I'm an avid follower of bodybuilding since the 80's. If he was that successful, I would have likely heard of him.I've never had supplements except B12 and D3.
If a professional contest winning bodybuilder like Robert Cheeke creates a successful career with no protein supplements, why should I need any?
Also comparing yourself to another individual that commits himself to bodybuilding competitions is SO MUCH DIFFERENT.
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You get more protein in their regular cookie than you do in their protein cookie
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Never heard of the guy and I'm an avid follower of bodybuilding since the 80's. If he was that successful, I would have likely heard of him.I've never had supplements except B12 and D3.
If a professional contest winning bodybuilder like Robert Cheeke creates a successful career with no protein supplements, why should I need any?
Also comparing yourself to another individual that commits himself to bodybuilding competitions is SO MUCH DIFFERENT.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
I've never compared myself to him. I just said if someone who builds muscle for a career doesn't need them, why I should need them that I don't build muscles?
Here, I used Google for you...I think he even wrote 6 or 7 books about bodybuilding.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Cheeke0 -
Omg, that's insane! This is why it is actually so important to track calories for weight loss. So many fad "diet" foods are super high in calories. I always check the nutrition label before trying out a new product (although I realize you probably couldn't see it online and such) because of that fact. Hopefully you can find an alternative yummy snack!2
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So it's really a fat bar with a decent amount of protein.
Kind of like when people say peanut butter is a good protein food. No, good fat food with some protein and carbs.10 -
So it's really a fat bar with a decent amount of protein.
Kind of like when people say peanut butter is a good protein food. No, good fat food with some protein and carbs.
And just for the record, I could have 4.2 tablespoons (69g+) of my favorite peanut butter for the calories in that "protein cookie", and get 16.8g of protein. Your comparison is apt. 😆8 -
Never heard of the guy and I'm an avid follower of bodybuilding since the 80's. If he was that successful, I would have likely heard of him.I've never had supplements except B12 and D3.
If a professional contest winning bodybuilder like Robert Cheeke creates a successful career with no protein supplements, why should I need any?
Also comparing yourself to another individual that commits himself to bodybuilding competitions is SO MUCH DIFFERENT.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
I've never compared myself to him. I just said if someone who builds muscle for a career doesn't need them, why I should need them that I don't build muscles?
Here, I used Google for you...I think he even wrote 6 or 7 books about bodybuilding.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Cheeke
Have you seen his nutrition recommendations?
"Bottom line, nutrition is the most important aspect of bodybuilding. Things to consider....each day consume approx 1.5 grams of protein per pound of bodyweight....take in 3,500-6,000 calories per day focusing on quality bodybuilding foods....drink a gallon of water or more each day...stay consistent with your nutrition program....consume 6-10 meals per day eating every 2-3 hours....combine protein, carbs, fat, and water with each of those meals....use supplements to enhance nutritional balance ensuring a complete and effective nutrition program."
Whether his supplements include protein or not isn't clear but he certainly isn't anti-supplementation in general. It's worth pointing out someone eating a very large volume of food is far less likely to need to supplement their protein.
But most people on here aren't eating a very large volume of food. Just like if you are sub-optimal on B12 or D3 why shouldn't someone supplement to hit optimal levels for protein?8 -
Never heard of the guy and I'm an avid follower of bodybuilding since the 80's. If he was that successful, I would have likely heard of him.I've never had supplements except B12 and D3.
If a professional contest winning bodybuilder like Robert Cheeke creates a successful career with no protein supplements, why should I need any?
Also comparing yourself to another individual that commits himself to bodybuilding competitions is SO MUCH DIFFERENT.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
I've never compared myself to him. I just said if someone who builds muscle for a career doesn't need them, why I should need them that I don't build muscles?
Here, I used Google for you...I think he even wrote 6 or 7 books about bodybuilding.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Cheeke
Have you seen his nutrition recommendations?
"Bottom line, nutrition is the most important aspect of bodybuilding. Things to consider....each day consume approx 1.5 grams of protein per pound of bodyweight....take in 3,500-6,000 calories per day focusing on quality bodybuilding foods....drink a gallon of water or more each day...stay consistent with your nutrition program....consume 6-10 meals per day eating every 2-3 hours....combine protein, carbs, fat, and water with each of those meals....use supplements to enhance nutritional balance ensuring a complete and effective nutrition program."
Whether his supplements include protein or not isn't clear but he certainly isn't anti-supplementation in general. It's worth pointing out someone eating a very large volume of food is far less likely to need to supplement their protein.
But most people on here aren't eating a very large volume of food. Just like if you are sub-optimal on B12 or D3 why shouldn't someone supplement to hit optimal levels for protein?
I didn't say he didn't eat lots of proteins and when he started he used to supplement it. Now he sells it so if course he recommends it, but he quit using them.
There are reasons for everything. I supplement B12 because I don't eat meat. I supplement D3 because I work overnight. Bodybuilders supplement proteins because they have to build massive muscle structure (which I still think it's not healthy).
I read here people getting excessive protein just to suppress hunger. Maybe I'm wrong and I got the wrong impression that many people main focus is high amount of protein.0 -
Never heard of the guy and I'm an avid follower of bodybuilding since the 80's. If he was that successful, I would have likely heard of him.I've never had supplements except B12 and D3.
If a professional contest winning bodybuilder like Robert Cheeke creates a successful career with no protein supplements, why should I need any?
Also comparing yourself to another individual that commits himself to bodybuilding competitions is SO MUCH DIFFERENT.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
I've never compared myself to him. I just said if someone who builds muscle for a career doesn't need them, why I should need them that I don't build muscles?
Here, I used Google for you...I think he even wrote 6 or 7 books about bodybuilding.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Cheeke
Have you seen his nutrition recommendations?
"Bottom line, nutrition is the most important aspect of bodybuilding. Things to consider....each day consume approx 1.5 grams of protein per pound of bodyweight....take in 3,500-6,000 calories per day focusing on quality bodybuilding foods....drink a gallon of water or more each day...stay consistent with your nutrition program....consume 6-10 meals per day eating every 2-3 hours....combine protein, carbs, fat, and water with each of those meals....use supplements to enhance nutritional balance ensuring a complete and effective nutrition program."
Whether his supplements include protein or not isn't clear but he certainly isn't anti-supplementation in general. It's worth pointing out someone eating a very large volume of food is far less likely to need to supplement their protein.
But most people on here aren't eating a very large volume of food. Just like if you are sub-optimal on B12 or D3 why shouldn't someone supplement to hit optimal levels for protein?
I didn't say he didn't eat lots of proteins and when he started he used to supplement it. Now he sells it so if course he recommends it, but he quit using them.
There are reasons for everything. I supplement B12 because I don't eat meat. I supplement D3 because I work overnight. Bodybuilders supplement proteins because they have to build massive muscle structure (which I still think it's not healthy).
I read here people getting excessive protein just to suppress hunger. Maybe in wrong and I got the wrong impression that many people main focus is high amount of protein.
And other people raise their protein levels because it helps preserve existing muscle mass during weight loss, or because they are older and protein absorbtion isn't as good, or because they have high exercise levels, or because they want to maximise the benefits of their exercise - all just as valid reasons as you trying to get your D3 up to optimal.
Not seeing the big issue that this piece of confectionary has pea protein rather than someone eating peas, just like I don't see any issue with people choosing whey protein instead of drinking lots of milk.
If you don't need or want to supplement protein that's absolutely fine, I very rarely do now because I have a big calorie allowance and get plenty from my food but when I was dieting whey protein was a very calorie efficient method to hit optimal levels.4 -
Never heard of the guy and I'm an avid follower of bodybuilding since the 80's. If he was that successful, I would have likely heard of him.I've never had supplements except B12 and D3.
If a professional contest winning bodybuilder like Robert Cheeke creates a successful career with no protein supplements, why should I need any?
Also comparing yourself to another individual that commits himself to bodybuilding competitions is SO MUCH DIFFERENT.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
I've never compared myself to him. I just said if someone who builds muscle for a career doesn't need them, why I should need them that I don't build muscles?
Here, I used Google for you...I think he even wrote 6 or 7 books about bodybuilding.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Cheeke
Have you seen his nutrition recommendations?
"Bottom line, nutrition is the most important aspect of bodybuilding. Things to consider....each day consume approx 1.5 grams of protein per pound of bodyweight....take in 3,500-6,000 calories per day focusing on quality bodybuilding foods....drink a gallon of water or more each day...stay consistent with your nutrition program....consume 6-10 meals per day eating every 2-3 hours....combine protein, carbs, fat, and water with each of those meals....use supplements to enhance nutritional balance ensuring a complete and effective nutrition program."
Whether his supplements include protein or not isn't clear but he certainly isn't anti-supplementation in general. It's worth pointing out someone eating a very large volume of food is far less likely to need to supplement their protein.
But most people on here aren't eating a very large volume of food. Just like if you are sub-optimal on B12 or D3 why shouldn't someone supplement to hit optimal levels for protein?
I didn't say he didn't eat lots of proteins and when he started he used to supplement it. Now he sells it so if course he recommends it, but he quit using them.
There are reasons for everything. I supplement B12 because I don't eat meat. I supplement D3 because I work overnight. Bodybuilders supplement proteins because they have to build massive muscle structure (which I still think it's not healthy).
I read here people getting excessive protein just to suppress hunger. Maybe I'm wrong and I got the wrong impression that many people main focus is high amount of protein.
What do you consider a high amount of protein?3 -
I often say here that I eat high protein for satiety sake. However, it’s also for muscle. I may not look like much, but it’s muscle underneath these days and I want to preserve it- and hopefully build some more.
I prefer getting my protein via meats, dairy etc. I can’t bear to drink protein supplements, but a lot of folks here swear by them. Bully for them.
I’ve broken down and begun keeping (Nugo) protein bars in the house because
* in all honesty, the chocolate chip mint is as good as any candy bar
* better for my diabetic husband and keeps him full and happy
* they don’t tear up our stomachs like other brands
* I’m trying to gain a pound or two now
* even I, Reformed Queen of Sweets, balk at potentially eating more than one pricey protein bar a day.
Oh, the irony, I say to you in my best dramatic voice, since I used to obliviously scarf a not-so-small daily fortune in candies and cookies. I bet Little Debbie, Mars and Hershey’s stock dropped when I stopped paying daily visits to the grocery store.
My doctor prescribed a very specific brand of sublingual (dissolved under the tongue for better absorption) OTC B12 tabs three or four years ago when I kept going to her complaining of exhaustion. Immediate relief.
Unfortunately, either production shut down because of covid, or more likely, demand skyrocketed because of same. I can’t find “my” brand anywhere right now and am fixing to start a bottle of a different one shortly. Fingers crossed. That’s the one supplement I feel has really made a noticeable difference in my life.7 -
springlering62 wrote: »I often say here that I eat high protein for satiety sake. However, it’s also for muscle. I may not look like much, but it’s muscle underneath these days and I want to preserve it- and hopefully build some more.
I prefer getting my protein via meats, dairy etc. I can’t bear to drink protein supplements, but a lot of folks here swear by them. Bully for them.
I’ve broken down and begun keeping (Nugo) protein bars in the house because
* in all honesty, the chocolate chip mint is as good as any candy bar
* better for my diabetic husband and keeps him full and happy
* they don’t tear up our stomachs like other brands
* I’m trying to gain a pound or two now
* even I, Reformed Queen of Sweets, balk at potentially eating more than one pricey protein bar a day.
Oh, the irony, I say to you in my best dramatic voice, since I used to obliviously scarf a not-so-small daily fortune in candies and cookies. I bet Little Debbie, Mars and Hershey’s stock dropped when I stopped paying daily visits to the grocery store.
My doctor prescribed a very specific brand of sublingual (dissolved under the tongue for better absorption) OTC B12 tabs three or four years ago when I kept going to her complaining of exhaustion. Immediate relief.
Unfortunately, either production shut down because of covid, or more likely, demand skyrocketed because of same. I can’t find “my” brand anywhere right now and am fixing to start a bottle of a different one shortly. Fingers crossed. That’s the one supplement I feel has really made a noticeable difference in my life.
I guess maybe I'll have to try these Nugo bars because I keep hoping to find an easy and quick protein fix, and every bat I have tried is...lacking. I just bought some No Cows yesterday after getting suckered in by flavor descriptions, and not only are they awful, but they also have the weirdest texture.0 -
dragon_girl26 wrote: »springlering62 wrote: »I often say here that I eat high protein for satiety sake. However, it’s also for muscle. I may not look like much, but it’s muscle underneath these days and I want to preserve it- and hopefully build some more.
I prefer getting my protein via meats, dairy etc. I can’t bear to drink protein supplements, but a lot of folks here swear by them. Bully for them.
I’ve broken down and begun keeping (Nugo) protein bars in the house because
* in all honesty, the chocolate chip mint is as good as any candy bar
* better for my diabetic husband and keeps him full and happy
* they don’t tear up our stomachs like other brands
* I’m trying to gain a pound or two now
* even I, Reformed Queen of Sweets, balk at potentially eating more than one pricey protein bar a day.
Oh, the irony, I say to you in my best dramatic voice, since I used to obliviously scarf a not-so-small daily fortune in candies and cookies. I bet Little Debbie, Mars and Hershey’s stock dropped when I stopped paying daily visits to the grocery store.
My doctor prescribed a very specific brand of sublingual (dissolved under the tongue for better absorption) OTC B12 tabs three or four years ago when I kept going to her complaining of exhaustion. Immediate relief.
Unfortunately, either production shut down because of covid, or more likely, demand skyrocketed because of same. I can’t find “my” brand anywhere right now and am fixing to start a bottle of a different one shortly. Fingers crossed. That’s the one supplement I feel has really made a noticeable difference in my life.
I guess maybe I'll have to try these Nugo bars because I keep hoping to find an easy and quick protein fix, and every bat I have tried is...lacking. I just bought some No Cows yesterday after getting suckered in by flavor descriptions, and not only are they awful, but they also have the weirdest texture.
Nugo dark chocolate covered pretzel is the best!2 -
Yes springerling62, B12 is important. It supports all our nervous system. I wish more doctors would check it like they did to you. Natural absorption after you turn 50-60 years old is reduced and a sublingual supplement gets straight into your system.0
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I second the Nugo bars the dark chocolate pretzel tastes great, so does the vanilla. I consider them a treat, I could eat a candy bar go get my chocolate fix, but these have the added protein which I why I like them: they also keep me pretty satisfied for a while so they are good on the go for me.0
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I second the Nugo bars the dark chocolate pretzel tastes great, so does the vanilla. I consider them a treat, I could eat a candy bar go get my chocolate fix, but these have the added protein which I why I like them: they also keep me pretty satisfied for a while so they are good on the go for me.
Since this is the third vote for Nugo I'll have to give then a whirl and report back.2 -
Ok...reporting back because my Nugo dark chocolate pretzel bars just arrived from Amazon...and they are surprisingly awesome for a protein bar, and chalky texture free! MFP has not led me astray...thanks for the recommendation!3
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