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  • TwistedSassetteTwistedSassette Member, Premium Posts: 2,245 Member Member, Premium Posts: 2,245 Member
    It sounds like maybe you're saying that your Garmin is double counting calories when you do Zumba - counting some calories for the actual Zumba but also giving you a higher calorie burn for the extra steps it counts during Zumba class?
    I would try going into your exercise diary and checking what adjustment is coming across from your Garmin (I have an Apple Watch, so mine appears as "MFP iOS calorie adjustment" - I assume you'd see something similar for your Garmin). Just click on the little information flag next to it and you'll see how it's calculated - here's an example of mine for my iOS adjustment:
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    If you think this is giving you too much credit, delete the entry (there's a little red button on the right to do this). Then make sure your Zumba activity is showing the right amount of calories (if it looks a bit high still, you can click on it and edit the calorie burn to that 3-400 range that seems more accurate).
    I'm no expert on Garmins, but I suspect that it's not recognising that it's double-counting on your activity.
  • standy73standy73 Member Posts: 10 Member Member Posts: 10 Member
    Thanks guys, yes i definitely wasnt eating the extra mow i know is 300-400 ishhh what do they mean
    “eat back”? They said eat all 1500! Whats eat back all bout??
  • goal06082021goal06082021 Member Posts: 524 Member Member Posts: 524 Member
    standy73 wrote: »
    Thanks guys, yes i definitely wasnt eating the extra mow i know is 300-400 ishhh what do they mean
    “eat back”? They said eat all 1500! Whats eat back all bout??

    It means eat the calories you burned exercising.

    Suppose your budget for the day is 1500 calories. If you eat 1500 calories and then burn 300 calories exercising, your net calorie intake for the day is actually 1200. So, you need to eat 300 more calories, to bring your net intake to 1500.

    MFP's method expects you to eat back calories burned doing purposeful exercise, so that your net intake is whatever number it gives you. Not doing that results in a higher deficit than MFP calculated for you, which may not be a safe or sustainable rate of loss. Side effects of eating too little range from "feeling kind of crappy" to literal organ failure, so, y'know, don't do that.
  • RGv2RGv2 Member Posts: 5,782 Member Member Posts: 5,782 Member
    standy73 wrote: »
    Thanks guys, yes i definitely wasnt eating the extra mow i know is 300-400 ishhh what do they mean
    “eat back”? They said eat all 1500! Whats eat back all bout??

    You're making it harder than it needs to be. When you put your stats and activity level, MFP calculates about how much it takes for you to maintain (TDEE/Maintenance). Then when you put in your weekly goal of loss it figures out how many calories to take off your TDEE to lose your goal.

    So, hypothetically: A person puts in all of their info and gets a TDEE of 2000 calories with the goal to lose 1lb per week (-500 calories) for a goal of 1500.

    2000 TDEE - 500 cal deficit = 1500 daily calories to lose 1lb per week.

    Now, lets say this person has a gym session that burns 300 calories. Now, that TDEE goes up by 300.

    2000 + 300 = 2300 calories new TDEE.

    Now, the goal is still to lose 1lb a week, so:

    2300 - 500 = 1800 daily calories to lose 1lb per week. That's what it means by "eat back" your exercise calories.
  • standy73standy73 Member Posts: 10 Member Member Posts: 10 Member
    Okay so ATM i am doing x2 60min zumba classs... in my MFP goals it still has me as ‘LIGHTLY ACTIVE’ and 1450cals
    Shoukd i change it to MOT VERY ACTIVE?? 1240calories🤔🤔
  • goal06082021goal06082021 Member Posts: 524 Member Member Posts: 524 Member
    OK, so let's try simplifying this.

    One. Stop wearing your Garmin, it's muddying the waters here in a way that is not serving your goals.

    Two. Go through the guided setup again. When you get to the Activity Level question, base your answer on what you do all day BESIDES Zumba. If you work outside the home, what kind of job do you have? If you don't work outside the home, about how many waking hours per day do you spend sitting down?

    Once you have that reconfigured, eat that many calories every day, plus however many you burn doing Zumba (or half or 75% of those calories, since MFP tends to overestimate). An hour of sustained high-intensity cardio will burn 400-500 calories on average; probably good to err on the side of underestimating, so let's call it 350 calories per Zumba sesh, that's 500-700 extra calories per day on top of your MFP goal that you should eat.

    Do that for 4-6 weeks and see what the data say.
  • standy73standy73 Member Posts: 10 Member Member Posts: 10 Member
    ThankU
    I have stopped sync’g now i know its BS really🤔
    I still record what im eating makes me accountable.
    Just seems these calorie counting cant be trusted! Only things certain is the scanning on products i know for certain if im correct👍🏼 But i visited docs also said 1500 was way too high originally had activity set to ‘very active’ =1500 cals i DIDNT drop ANY weight! (Wk1-4)
    Lowered activity to ‘lightly active’ =1490 still NO CHANGE to weight (wk4-6)
    TODAY I thought may ill change activity to ‘not very active’
    =1200cals...
    SEE WHAT HAPPENS NOW
  • goal06082021goal06082021 Member Posts: 524 Member Member Posts: 524 Member
    standy73 wrote: »
    ThankU
    I have stopped sync’g now i know its BS really🤔
    I still record what im eating makes me accountable.
    Just seems these calorie counting cant be trusted! Only things certain is the scanning on products i know for certain if im correct👍🏼 But i visited docs also said 1500 was way too high originally had activity set to ‘very active’ =1500 cals i DIDNT drop ANY weight! (Wk1-4)
    Lowered activity to ‘lightly active’ =1490 still NO CHANGE to weight (wk4-6)
    TODAY I thought may ill change activity to ‘not very active’
    =1200cals...
    SEE WHAT HAPPENS NOW

    You haven't been doing any of this long enough to know if it's working. What did you base your "very active" activity level on originally?
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