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Why is everyone so afraid of sugar?

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  • Posts: 117 Member
    I actually run into serious trouble when I try and limit my sugar...so I don't worry about it at all. I do try and keep my carbs in check but couldn't really care less about my "sugar" allowance because fruit for breakfast pretty much puts me at my limit at least according to MFP
  • Posts: 20 Member
    The problem is there is so much added Sugar in everything we eat. Too much sugar actually causes a fatty liver which can lead to cirrhosis of the liver just as alcohol does.
  • Posts: 241 Member
    Natural sugars are fine .. Everything in moderation!
  • Posts: 1,907 Member
    Sugar does not cause Diabetes.

    Yes, it does.

    http://www.plosone.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pone.0057873
  • Posts: 49,290 Member
    Unfortunately surplus of sugar does weaken your immune system and make you more susceptible to getting sick. I actually never get sick until I eat a lot of sugar in one day...then I almost get sick guaranteed the next!
    But what if I don't? Does that make your statement invalid? Or does this problem just lie with you?

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  • I no longer track mine. If 3 pieces of fruit a day is going to put me over I'm not willing to listen!

    I agree with this completely, it depends where your sugar comes from, i love eating fruit and im not eating cake or chocolate or candy so if i go over my sugar allownace i dont care because i know its from healthy foods!
  • Posts: 12,950 Member
    I just ate a cup of sugar and I HAVE THE POWER!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZ5LpwO-An4
  • Posts: 209 Member
    There are good reasons to limit sugar in the diet, though for people who are exercising a lot, when you get into eliminating nutrituous carbs--whole grains, pasta, fruit, potatoes--that's where it gets extreme. Much of the anti-sugar literature is writing from a cultural perspective and is linking sugar intake to obesity in certain cultures. I think that's fair enough, but when they go so far as to claim "sugar is toxic," it's to sell books, and so even people who are fit and active are brainwashed into believing that they will die early at the hands of 60cals of Gatorade they consume after an hour run, which they should be having anyways to prevent dehydration.
  • Posts: 49,290 Member
    Sugar isn't doesn't cause diabetes according to the American Diabetes Association. It is however linked to sugary drinks and being overweight.
    A linking or correlation doesn't imply that sugar is the actual cause. Genetics and lifestyle are much higher factors.

    http://www.diabetes.org/diabetes-basics/diabetes-myths/

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  • Posts: 46 Member

    http://www.doctoroz.com/videos/balance-your-blood-sugar-lose-weight

    It's all over the internet, if you bothered to read..or ask any nutrition doctor about insulin and hormones.
    And it's from my personal experience, no matter what cardio or weight training i will do 2 days after my cheat days, i won't loose weight. Staying at a caloric deficit and meeting your macro nutrients goals is not all that matters if you eat finetti or some other poison.

    The main reason for me not eating high sugar processed items is because i have to work 3 days to get back, and my energy levels will go down abruptly after that sugar is out of my system.
  • Posts: 473 Member
    I'm STUNNED at the OP's naivety.

    It's all over PUB-MED and all medical journals. It's all over nutritional journals, websites, etc. It's all over Youtube -- there must be hundreds of videoed lectures on there by MDs and specialists, dieticians and scientists, all explaining what is wrong with eating sugar. There are dozens of books on the subject as well.

    The OP must have her tongue firmly in her cheek, or has just woken up from a 25-year coma!

    The MOST important thing to remember about sugar is that YMMV!
  • Posts: 16,913 Member

    It's all over the internet, if you bothered to read...
    And it's from my personal experience, no matter what cardio or weight training i will do 2 days after my cheat days, i won't loose weight.

    And you let me down. This thread once again disappoints.

    I eat ice cream and cookies every night, I eat sugary cereal, and I eat a fair amount of chocolate. I still lose weight, an maintain an average on 1 pound a week. My experience is just a valid as yours, right?
  • Posts: 46 Member
    Luckily for me i'm a mezomorph and i really loose weight constantly, like 100-120g per day, so yeah, i know what i'm talking about.
  • Posts: 46 Member
    I'm STUNNED at the OP's naivety.

    It's all over PUB-MED and all medical journals. It's all over nutritional journals, websites, etc. It's all over Youtube -- there must be hundreds of videoed lectures on there by MDs and specialists, dieticians and scientists, all explaining what is wrong with eating sugar. There are dozens of books on the subject as well.

    The OP must have her tongue firmly in her cheek, or has just woken up from a 25-year coma!

    The MOST important thing to remember about sugar is that YMMV!

    LMAO :))
  • Posts: 16,913 Member
    Luckyly for me i'm a mezomorph and i really loose weight constantly, like 100-120g per day, so yeah, i know what i'm talking about.

    I take it back. Thread is delivering.
  • Posts: 16,913 Member
    I'm STUNNED at the OP's naivety.

    It's all over PUB-MED and all medical journals. It's all over nutritional journals, websites, etc. It's all over Youtube -- there must be hundreds of videoed lectures on there by MDs and specialists, dieticians and scientists, all explaining what is wrong with eating sugar. There are dozens of books on the subject as well.

    The OP must have her tongue firmly in her cheek, or has just woken up from a 25-year coma!

    The MOST important thing to remember about sugar is that YMMV!

    Like eggs. And butter. Or was it margarine? Butter? ...bread?
  • Posts: 46 Member

    And you let me down. This thread once again disappoints.

    I eat ice cream and cookies every night, I eat sugary cereal, and I eat a fair amount of chocolate. I still lose weight, an maintain an average on 1 pound a week. My experience is just a valid as yours, right?

    It won't work forever, just you wait and hit that plateau, and we'll talk then. And in the mean time, i would loose the attitude ;)
  • Posts: 16,913 Member

    It won't work forever, just you wait and hit that plateau, and we'll talk then. ;)

    You're funny. I'm happily upping my calories (at 1825 now) because losing weight is barely a tertiary concern. I look and feel great, while enjoying my nightly ice cream, scale loss is meaningless. Your predictions of a plateau don't bother me, sorry to say, because I'll always trust science over nonsensical fear mongering.

    And I will certainly not be losing my attitude. I imagine my attitude is as much a part of me as your apparent joy in spreading silliness and not even attempting to back up your views with facts or logic.
  • Posts: 46 Member

    You're funny. I'm happily upping my calories (at 1825 now) because losing weight is barely a tertiary concern. I look and feel great, while enjoying my nightly ice cream, scale loss is meaningless. Your predictions of a plateau don't bother me, sorry to say, because I'll always trust science over nonsensical fear mongering.

    Heck, i'm not here to change your mind, you can enjoy yourself, do whatever you want (as the hodgetwins say) :)

    By the way... this? " I look and feel great" ...let other people decide, because that's just narcissism.
  • Posts: 16,913 Member

    Heck, i'm not here to change your mind, you can enjoy yourself, do whatever you want (as the hodgetwins say) :)

    I should hope not, since you've got zero evidence or proof or...anything to back up your views. I can't see you changing anyone's mind about anything with such an unsubstantiated platform.

    Why do you assume that it isn't other people who've told me I look great. How very rude of you to imply otherwise. Shame.
  • Posts: 46 Member

    I should hope not, since you've got zero evidence or proof or...anything to back up your views. I can't see you changing anyone's mind about anything with such an unsubstantiated platform.

    Yeah you're right i won't change ppl minds, it's better i go with your advice and tell everyone to eat icecream at night and **** :)) LMAO, i'm out, see ya and good luck, you're gonna need it.
  • Posts: 46 Member
    Why do you assume that it isn't other people who've told me I look great. How very rude of you to imply otherwise. Shame.

    Wasn't meant to be rude, just that your post indicated that you think that, not other people told you that, next time be more specific.

    P.S. The only evidence i got is me. And if you say i would of lost weight even with eating ice cream at night, oh dear friends how you are mistaken. It's like you're on the dark side, and cannot see the force entirely :))
  • Posts: 16,913 Member

    Yeah you're right i won't change ppl minds, it's better i go with your advice and tell everyone to eat icecream at night and **** :)) LMAO, i'm out, see ya and good luck, you're gonna need it.

    Well at least you are willing to admit your views aren't based in any real world logic.

    The first step is admittance. Good luck to you as well, I believe you'll be making strides in no time.
  • Posts: 46 Member
    We've been offtopic for quite a while so...let me share you guys my idea of the human body:

    The human body believes it needs things, but if we deprive it for an amount of time, it will stop demanding them, yes i'm talking about craves. While i know it's hard, i started depriving myself of sugar and cigarettes. Little did i know the cigarettes were the easy ones, so i quit smoking 2 years ago. As for the sugar part, i still eat let's say a cheese cake once in 2 weeks. I'm hoping in the future i will give up proccessed sugar altogether, in benefit of potasium, proteins and fruits.
  • Posts: 84 Member
    The posts above are really a bit silly. Confusion. Sugars ain't sugars (like the oil advertisement) . What the research is about is added sugar in our diets and most of this either sucrose (cane sugar - a disaccharide of glucose+fructose) or fructose. The independent, non industry funded peer reviewed science says that fructose is strongly addictive, is implicated in a range of metabolic syndrome diseases. Cardiovascular, diabetes, chronic kidney, cancer, fatty liver and dementia. Demonstrated in animal studies. But this research will take years in people and often can't be done due to ethics.(One can't do trials on humans knowing it might cause harm!) So the evidence comes mostly from large reviews where researchers measure what people eat, measure stuff. So the research can be challenged!

    Americans have over 15% of their average food as "added sugar." Fine to have 2 or 3 peices of added fruit per day. But a reasonable strategy is cut that added sugar out. Most importantly added fructose affects your appetite.

    You might want to listen to this podcast on Australian ABC National Radio. The radiologist got type 1 diabetes & followed conventional carb based program. Looked for alternatives as he was concerned about long term issues.

    http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/healthreport/low-carbohydrate-diet-to-manage-diabetes/4880362

    Happy to send the peer reviewed links of you want to message me.
  • Posts: 500 Member
    I avoid it. It makes me sick. Headaches, ringing ears, etc.
  • Posts: 1,683 Member
    I avoid it largely because without it I have more sustained and balanced energy levels without it, I sleep better without it, I manage my food intake better without craving it and because it puts my teeth on edge.

    I don't tell other people what to do and don't give two hoots what other people stuff down their gob, but I do think it's a bit patronising when people dismiss personal experience because you haven't bothered to attach two pages of scientific references to your post. :huh:
  • Posts: 174 Member
    Hey, everyone has to be afraid of something, right?

    Me? I'm afraid of killer clowns from outer space.

    Sugar? Not so much.

    tumblr_ln4oop7eYf1qaivaao1_500_zps94c6dee5.jpg

    ^ :laugh:
  • Well... I guess it's because most people nowadays assume that when something taste good, it's probably bad for you
  • Posts: 6,490 Member

    It won't work forever, just you wait and hit that plateau, and we'll talk then. And in the mean time, i would loose the attitude ;)

    Please tell me more about ice cream and plateaus. I'm truly curious as to your experience, as I've never had one of these famed plateaus. Sure, I've eaten at maintenance calories for periods of time, but I have never failed to lose weight for any period of time in a calorie deficit, regardless of ice cream or beer.

    I find it interesting that in one post you are promising failure, and in another you're saying that you're just different. Which is it? Are there scientific principles that are applicable to the general population or is everyone so different that science is a waste of time?
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