Qualifying for COVID vaccine solely on BMI

paperpudding

It is still there.
Closed for posting in but still readable.

ccrdragon

There was this one (that was closed):
https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10827226/covid19-to-vaccinate-or-to-not-vaccinate#latest

But there was another that got even more heated than the one above and it is nowhere to be found...

NovusDies

I have never been concerned about getting covid. I have always been concerned about spreading it. Not just that someone might get sick or worse because of me but because of all the other impacts this is having like economy and mental health. People can't be visited in the hospital. Some people went more than a year without having direct contact with their loved ones in nursing homes and other care facilities.

I could not get mine as soon as it was opened up to me because I was recovering from a surgery and I had a sinus infection. Well I could have gotten it, but chose not to because at that exact moment it was unwise. As soon as things were clear though I did go and get my first shot and I am due for my second one next week.

Also my lack of concern about what happens to me if I get the virus extends to what happens to me in getting the unapproved vaccine. Since a lot of people will be worried, it makes sense for me to get it and do my part to increase the numbers in the vaccinated column.

NorthCascades

Busy911 wrote: »

lemurcat2 wrote: »

Doesn't seem relevant to a discussion of vaccines.

Why do you think the vaccine is more risky than getting covid?

It's incredibly relevant because the drug hasn't been tested and even for drugs which are 'tested' and 'safe' there are problems which arise which no one can foresee. Why do you think the vaccine is less risky than Covid?

So far there are more than 1.2 billion doses of the vaccine in humans all over the world and it hasn't killed one of them.

So far covid has infected about 1/10 that number and killed 3.2 million people.

I think the vaccine is less risky than covid because I'm informed.

Let's talk about long term side effects. The vaccines are not known to cause any, that doesn't mean they won't. Covid is known to cause long term side effects in people it didn't kill, including diabetes and many others. nature.com/articles/s41586-021-03553-9_reference.pdf

paperpudding

yes simple observational skills tell me the vaccine is less risky than the disease -

are hospital filling with people following vaccine issues?

What is the death toll from vaccine issues?

I accept that there have been fatalities likely to be from the vaccine and I accept the vaccine is not risk free - I am not claiming the level of risk is zero.

But clearly the risk level is FAR FAR less than the level from the disease itself.

AnnPT77

NorthCascades wrote: »

Busy911 wrote: »

lemurcat2 wrote: »

Doesn't seem relevant to a discussion of vaccines.

Why do you think the vaccine is more risky than getting covid?

It's incredibly relevant because the drug hasn't been tested and even for drugs which are 'tested' and 'safe' there are problems which arise which no one can foresee. Why do you think the vaccine is less risky than Covid?

So far there are more than 1.2 billion doses of the vaccine in humans all over the world and it hasn't killed one of them.

So far covid has infected about 1/10 that number and killed 3.2 million people.

I think the vaccine is less risky than covid because I'm informed.

Let's talk about long term side effects. The vaccines are not known to cause any, that doesn't mean they won't. Covid is known to cause long term side effects in people it didn't kill, including diabetes and many others. nature.com/articles/s41586-021-03553-9_reference.pdf

Welllllll . . . the blood clots are a "maybe it killed a few people" thing. For sure not very many people, but possibly some. It will take a while to be sure.

The virus has killed many, many, many people; and disabled many more others partially or severely.

The relative risk calculation is in favor of taking the vax, any of the standard multi-country-approved vaxxes. Dramatically. No question.

NorthCascades

Serves me right for making absolute statements. 🙂

Do we know for sure the vaccines are causing the blood clots? It's so rare it could plausibly just be blood clots?

AnnPT77

NorthCascades wrote: »

Serves me right for making absolute statements. 🙂

Do we know for sure the vaccines are causing the blood clots? It's so rare it could plausibly just be blood clots?

I haven't seen a definitive confirmation, but it seems to be a strong suspicion. They're a weird, really rare kind of blood clots with low platelet counts alongside. That's part of the problem: The standard treatments for more common blood clot types make this type worse, and with incorrect treatment, death is more likely.

NorthCascades

Yeah I agree it's very suggestive and suspicious.