Today's Eyeopener!!

paperpudding

LeeDahlen38 wrote: »

JbanX: You diabetic?? Just curious. Everyones situation is different. Diabetics biggest enemy is Bread and Potatoes.. (If you're trying to manage without insulin shots. Keep this in mind please before you poopoo someone. You see whats in front of the curtain. Not backstage.

I don't think all diabetics biggest enemy is bread and potatoes.

And anyway your OP didn't mention diabetes - so naturally people were not responding to context that was not included.

mom22dogs

LeeDahlen38 wrote: »

JbanX: You diabetic?? Just curious. Everyones situation is different. Diabetics biggest enemy is Bread and Potatoes.. (If you're trying to manage without insulin shots. Keep this in mind please before you poopoo someone. You see whats in front of the curtain. Not backstage.

My mother is diabetic, and eats bread and potatoes regularly. That isn't the enemy. The worst thing a diabetic can do is eat too much food, period, which results in too many calories. Arguably, a lot of people can eat tons of potatoes and bread, but eating a proper amount is fine. Chicken, eaten in high enough quantity, can spike blood sugar.

cmriverside

paperpudding wrote: »

LeeDahlen38 wrote: »

JbanX: You diabetic?? Just curious. Everyones situation is different. Diabetics biggest enemy is Bread and Potatoes.. (If you're trying to manage without insulin shots. Keep this in mind please before you poopoo someone. You see whats in front of the curtain. Not backstage.

I don't think all diabetics biggest enemy is bread and potatoes.

And anyway your OP didn't mention diabetes - so naturally people were not responding to context that was not included.

This is one of those page two reveals ::nods::...


...and potatoes or bread are not disallowed for Diabetes, but that does add a bit of context to the OP.

Lee, you have to state stuff like that!!

MargaretYakoda

LeeDahlen38 wrote: »

JbanX: You diabetic?? Just curious. Everyones situation is different. Diabetics biggest enemy is Bread and Potatoes.. (If you're trying to manage without insulin shots. Keep this in mind please before you poopoo someone. You see whats in front of the curtain. Not backstage.

Honestly?
A diabetic’s worst enemy is misinformation.

From telling them something is OK to eat because “it doesn’t have any sugar!” when honey was used to make it (something I have personally experienced more than once) to telling people the foods they love are an “enemy”

I am diabetic.

So is my husband. And other family members.

There are different reasons for someone to develop diabetes. Developing diabetes is not always related to being overweight.

But once someone is diabetic, yes, diet is key to managing your blood glucose levels.
Since there are different reasons behind why people develop diabetes, and different people react differently to foods, the most important thing to do is figure out which specific foods elevate the individual diabetic’s glucose levels.
This is crucial information to managing diabetes.

Not telling every diabetic that potatoes and bread are “the enemy”

I advise newly diagnosed diabetics to test the foods they eat to find out which specific foods spike them. It’s very easy to do, and doesn’t require anything other than the test strips and monitor they’ve already been given by their medical provider.
Or? Spend about $30 on a ReliOn brand monitor and some strips from Walmart.

The method: Test your blood glucose level. Eat just the thing you want to test. Take your insulin if that is part of your care regimen.
Wait an hour and forty five minutes to two hours.
Test again.
If your blood glucose has returned to a normal level? Or is within a few points? You can eat that food with no worries.
If your blood glucose remains elevated (above 130 in my opinion but the American Diabetic Association will say 150) then avoid that food.

This method works for every diabetic. And is much better than telling people they can’t eat more than a tablespoon of potatoes.

TakeTheLongWayHome

MargaretYakoda

MargaretYakoda wrote: »

LeeDahlen38 wrote: »

JbanX: You diabetic?? Just curious. Everyones situation is different. Diabetics biggest enemy is Bread and Potatoes.. (If you're trying to manage without insulin shots. Keep this in mind please before you poopoo someone. You see whats in front of the curtain. Not backstage.

Honestly?
A diabetic’s worst enemy is misinformation.

From telling them something is OK to eat because “it doesn’t have any sugar!” when honey was used to make it (something I have personally experienced more than once) to telling people the foods they love are an “enemy”

I am diabetic.

So is my husband. And other family members.

There are different reasons for someone to develop diabetes. Developing diabetes is not always related to being overweight.

But once someone is diabetic, yes, diet is key to managing your blood glucose levels.
Since there are different reasons behind why people develop diabetes, and different people react differently to foods, the most important thing to do is figure out which specific foods elevate the individual diabetic’s glucose levels.
This is crucial information to managing diabetes.

Not telling every diabetic that potatoes and bread are “the enemy”

I advise newly diagnosed diabetics to test the foods they eat to find out which specific foods spike them. It’s very easy to do, and doesn’t require anything other than the test strips and monitor they’ve already been given by their medical provider.
Or? Spend about $30 on a ReliOn brand monitor and some strips from Walmart.

The method: Test your blood glucose level. Eat just the thing you want to test. Take your insulin if that is part of your care regimen.
Wait an hour and forty five minutes to two hours.
Test again.
If your blood glucose has returned to a normal level? Or is within a few points? You can eat that food with no worries.
If your blood glucose remains elevated (above 130 in my opinion but the American Diabetic Association will say 150) then avoid that food.

This method works for every diabetic. And is much better than telling people they can’t eat more than a tablespoon of potatoes.

I would love it if the disagree-er could express what exactly they disagree with in my comment. Then we could have a nice, educational discussion.

As it stands, I see nothing in my comment here that is unwise or counter factual. If I am wrong in some way, I’m very interested in learning to do better.

SezxyStef

LeeDahlen38 wrote: »

JbanX: You diabetic?? Just curious. Everyones situation is different. Diabetics biggest enemy is Bread and Potatoes.. (If you're trying to manage without insulin shots. Keep this in mind please before you poopoo someone. You see whats in front of the curtain. Not backstage.

naw....

when I talked to my diabetic brother....the one who's had it since he was 6....

starches aren't his worst enemy...as a matter of fact he needs a set number of grams to be ok.

what his worst enemy(s) are things like taking his insulin and having to wait too long to eat....yah that can kill him....literally...I've seen him in insulin shock before...it's not pretty.

or someone not being totally informed on what is and isn't good for a diabetic...aka misinformation. Like bread and potatoes are his worst enemy...*shrugs*

JBanx256

LeeDahlen38 wrote: »

JbanX: You diabetic?? Just curious. Everyones situation is different. Diabetics biggest enemy is Bread and Potatoes.. (If you're trying to manage without insulin shots. Keep this in mind please before you poopoo someone. You see whats in front of the curtain. Not backstage.

No, but since there was zero mention diabetes in your initial post, congrats on moving the goalposts.

I didn't "poopoo" anyone (and neither did anyone else); you're just getting defensive and getting your back up because people (quite rightfully) disagree with you. The forums, as with life in general, there is something to be said for learning to accept some constructive criticism and actually listen to what others (who may be more knowledgeable and have more experience than you) have to say.