AnnPT77 wrote: » What wunderkindking said, with the addition that if going to bed hungry impairs sleep quality, that could be a negative for weight loss. It's nothing magical: It's that poor or inadequate sleep causes more fatigue (especially in the later part of the next day); fatigue can trigger cravings (the body seeking energy) and reduce ability to resist those cravings. Same effect, of course, if eating before bed interferes with sleep. Good sleep, and enough of it, is a plus for weight loss.
Xellercin wrote: » There's a difference between needing more food and having food cravings and hunger pangs.If you are used to snacking at night and suddenly stop, then you will feel voraciously hungry even if you've eaten double your necessary calories for the day. The sensation of grumbly tummy hunger isnt actually connected to any need for food, it's connected to your eating routine and it's your stomach preparing for an influx of expected food. When I ate on a predictable schedule for work, I got vicious hunger pangs about 20 minutes before my expected meal, like clockwork every day. Actual, serious need for calories tends to manifest for as fatigue, sometimes lightheadedness or nausea, and generally feeling crappy. If you go to bed without enough calories for the day, you won't mega burn calories, your system will just slowly downregulate how much energy it expends and you will burn less and less as you feel less and less energy. If you do to bed with hunger pangs, but you've eaten enough for the day, then as long as you keep not eating at night, eventually your stomach will stop preparing for snacks at night and you will feel less hungry. I do IF, so I stop eating most days at 2pm. My body is used to this, so I don't have much hunger in the evening. You would think because I don't eat at all in the evening that I would be more hungry, but my stomach doesn't expect food, so it doesn't get hungry. Understanding the difference between feeling "hungry" and actually needing food is a huge cornerstone to understanding eating.Interesting fact, eating a meal actually triggers hunger. A lot of us IF folks know this, we're usually most hungry just a few hours after eating. If you can get past those few hours of cravings, and you've eaten enough food that day, the hunger and cravings disappear. So eating actually self perpetuates. Each time you eat, you trigger the brain to eat again in a few hours. It's not because you need more food, it's because the system is programmed that way.That's why if you have a massive 2000 calorie brunch, you're still famished again by dinner time. So long story short, no, your sensation of hunger before bed has absolutely no impact on your calories burned. In fact, your hunger has shockingly little relationship to your need for calories.
AnnPT77 wrote: » Xellercin wrote: » There's a difference between needing more food and having food cravings and hunger pangs.If you are used to snacking at night and suddenly stop, then you will feel voraciously hungry even if you've eaten double your necessary calories for the day. The sensation of grumbly tummy hunger isnt actually connected to any need for food, it's connected to your eating routine and it's your stomach preparing for an influx of expected food. When I ate on a predictable schedule for work, I got vicious hunger pangs about 20 minutes before my expected meal, like clockwork every day. Actual, serious need for calories tends to manifest for as fatigue, sometimes lightheadedness or nausea, and generally feeling crappy. If you go to bed without enough calories for the day, you won't mega burn calories, your system will just slowly downregulate how much energy it expends and you will burn less and less as you feel less and less energy. If you do to bed with hunger pangs, but you've eaten enough for the day, then as long as you keep not eating at night, eventually your stomach will stop preparing for snacks at night and you will feel less hungry. I do IF, so I stop eating most days at 2pm. My body is used to this, so I don't have much hunger in the evening. You would think because I don't eat at all in the evening that I would be more hungry, but my stomach doesn't expect food, so it doesn't get hungry. Understanding the difference between feeling "hungry" and actually needing food is a huge cornerstone to understanding eating.Interesting fact, eating a meal actually triggers hunger. A lot of us IF folks know this, we're usually most hungry just a few hours after eating. If you can get past those few hours of cravings, and you've eaten enough food that day, the hunger and cravings disappear. So eating actually self perpetuates. Each time you eat, you trigger the brain to eat again in a few hours. It's not because you need more food, it's because the system is programmed that way.That's why if you have a massive 2000 calorie brunch, you're still famished again by dinner time. So long story short, no, your sensation of hunger before bed has absolutely no impact on your calories burned. In fact, your hunger has shockingly little relationship to your need for calories. The bolded things are utterly not at all how I experience hunger, appetite, cravings - not even close This makes me think these things are not universal. Will they be true for OP? I have no idea.
sijomial wrote: » Yes it's true that going to bed hungry will have you burning mostly fat overnight. But it's also true that going to bed not hungry will have you burning mostly fat overnight. Just like if you take away the hunger aspect and think of recently fed or not instead - still using fat for the vast majority of your energy needs while sleeping. Because we humans run predominantly on fat while sleeping. The lower your activity level the higher proportion of fat being used. Personally it's not until I'm cycling at a fairly brisk pace that carbs start to overtake fat as the predominant fuel. You are burning fat all day and all night and the only "forcing" required to have a net loss of body fat is to manage your calorie deficit over time. No hunger isn't "good", it's making a hard job harder, minimise it rather than seek out ways to suffer.
SallyKaPow wrote: » In my head, if I go to bed hungry, my body will burn fat for energy all night. What does the panel think? Probably true or a load of nonsense?
lnagrsia wrote: » AnnPT77 wrote: » What wunderkindking said, with the addition that if going to bed hungry impairs sleep quality, that could be a negative for weight loss. It's nothing magical: It's that poor or inadequate sleep causes more fatigue (especially in the later part of the next day); fatigue can trigger cravings (the body seeking energy) and reduce ability to resist those cravings. Same effect, of course, if eating before bed interferes with sleep. Good sleep, and enough of it, is a plus for weight loss. I went to bed hungry last night, like I really wanted to eat something but I actually slept sooo good then I have in a while!
