February 2023 Monthly Running Challenge
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SummerSkier wrote: »Looks like perfect weather. Nice speedy run. Supposed to rain the next few days here but not this morning! Yesterday at lunch I tripped over something and altho I did not fall I banged my instep arch on my other shoe and twisted my knee a little. I am going to start ranking my injuries on a scale I think of 1-10 where 10 is NEED CRUTCHES and DRUGS and HOSPITAL and 1 is WHERE DID THAT BRUISE come from? I rank these at about a 3 and expect to do my @AlphaHowls imitation and ignore them to run today. I did skip tennis yesterday evening and my walk but decided that maybe icing is not always best as our body might NEED the extra blood flow for recovery.
Im a bit behind on posting but I think I will still make my 100 miles for Feb (I think that's my goal) Altho this past ice storm was not as bad as '21 I was still without power from Wed mid afternoon to Sat late. I have ordered a generator and some other things to help mitigate because I realized Austin has just gotten TOO big for the response to individuals to be as quick as it used to be. On the other hand, my insurance USAA is sending me a check for the contents of my refrigerator which were ruined no questions asked.
@SummerSkier ouch 😣 hope knee is okay0 -
eleanorhawkins wrote: »@tarun_yadavA yes but think looooong trail run mentality. You're going slow, in fact some climbs you're going slower than a wander round the shops, and you've been going for hours. Pizza sounds like heaven in those circumstances hahaha.
I've always thought races on F1 and other motor racing tracks sound cool. We used to be quite into F1 before. Races at airports also catch my attention. Never done any of either. Closest was a 5k at the huge marina in the cith where the cruise ships dock. That was great fun, it was at sunset and organised but the National Police force, and they 'chased' us with a helicopter with a spotlight. That makes you run faster!
@quilteryoyo that quilt is stunning! I used to do a lot of cross stitch in the days before I spent most of my free time running around.
Think all this pizza 🍕 talk... Think my post Marathon evening dinner might well be pizza! ☺️
I haven't had a single drop of alcohol or eaten meat since NYE 😐
(Only vice has been sweet tooth - so do eat a bit of chocolate after dinner before bed!)
As for the F1 track... Provided I'm not too zombied out/tense, and I remember (!), I'll take pictures!5 -
@ScienceofTeaching I'm originally from Western PA, and learned to hand quilt there, although I live far from there now. Welcome!
@Quilteryoyo Nice log cabin! I set up my quilt frame in my room so I could feel useful while unable to run. I'm currently working on someone's grandma's UFO (UnFinished Object) that was in a box of fabric someone gave me. It's not my favorite design, but I'm sure I'll like it more when it's done, and will probably sell or gift it.
@tarun_yadavA I just now caught that the marathon is a 11x looped course 😱. So a big WELCOME to you as well - you've officially joined the "crazy" subset of this group. That's a good thing, I think.eleanorhawkins wrote: »I'm reading a trail running 'manual' atm by a woman who considers it perfectly acceptable to take a pizza on a run for fuel. She recommends folding it in half to stop the toppings falling off and then cutting it into bite-sized pieces!
Health update on meI was starting to see improvement, then overdid it and relapsed, and am now trying to dig back out. Added some new treatment at the clinic and they put me on a diet that basically eliminates everything good. So no pizza for at least 4 different reasons (flour, yeast, dairy and meat, and there's probably sugar in the sauce, so make that 5 reasons). Bleh. There may be a sliver of hope on the way from a researcher in Belgium who is wrapping up a study using light therapy for long covid patients, and is expanding to letting others try it in other locations. I'll get a light to try, and he'll get more data. It's very interesting stuff.
The air quality is so bad that the national weather service sent an alert to refrain from outdoor activity, which I received as I was going out the door to head to the lake. The air really was stinky, so I wore a buff folded over as a mask while I hacked away at the ice.Yes, you can see (and taste) the air.8 -
@SummerSkier wrote: »....... I am going to start ranking my injuries on a scale I think of 1-10 where 10 is NEED CRUTCHES and DRUGS and HOSPITAL and 1 is WHERE DID THAT BRUISE come from? I rank these at about a 3 and expect to do my @AlphaHowls imitation and ignore them to run today. I did skip tennis yesterday evening and my walk but decided that maybe icing is not always best as our body might NEED the extra blood flow for recovery.
Hmm, I like this, going to think about this scale a bit.
WIP10 - Ambulance, hospital, Urgent care....pine box
9 - Is that a bone sticking out? Can I tell what color I was wearing before the blood?
8 - Do I know who I am, or what the hello I was doing?
7 - Searing and Sharp pain, swimmy headed, why are people looking at me weird?
6 - Sharp pain? Can I walk it out?
5 - "It's just a flesh wound!" "You can make it"
4 - I can get up on my own, but holy hot sauce I am going to feel that later!
3 - Well, crap, I tore my tan (scrape)
2 - Clothes not torn, just a scratch, scrape
1 - where did that bruise come from?
HAHAHAH! I just thought we need a decision tree!
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A decision tree... hmmm these are pretty decent. In light of those ratings I think mine was a 4 yesterday.. LOL10 - Ambulance, hospital, Urgent care....pine box
9 - Is that a bone sticking out? Can I tell what color I was wearing before the blood?
8 - Do I know who I am, or what the hello I was doing?
7 - Searing and Sharp pain, swimmy headed, why are people looking at me weird?
6 - Sharp pain? Can I walk it out?
5 - "It's just a flesh wound!" "You can make it"
4 - I can get up on my own, but holy hot sauce I am going to feel that later!
3 - Well, crap, I tore my tan (scrape)
2 - Clothes not torn, just a scratch, scrape
1 - where did that bruise come from?
@polskagirl01 well crapola on the fatique returning. I hope the light therapy ends up to help! Makes me so sad to see you struggling and just feels like you got an unfair shake out of this. That air is horrific. I would be wearing a respirator I think if I had to go out in it. Stay safe!
Snuck a 4 miler in. I thought the injury to the instep/arch would be more significant based on the puffiness yesterday afternoon but as usually y achilles heal - the knee aches more and the arch is fine. Anyway, 24 hrs in now so I feel like I got a reprieve ... I hate having to wait 24 hrs to see how bad things are anymore...
HAHAHAH! I just thought we need a decision tree!4 -
@SummerSkier thanks. Other than the 30 minutes outside at the lake, I stayed inside with my air purifiers. And I actually have a mask designed for smog with a little built in draw fan and filter. You plug it in to recharge like a phone. I didn't use it today though.2
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@SummerSkier I think you've composed an excellent decision tree.
I'm originally from Erie, PA, so it's nice to be with some western PA peeps ..5 -
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I must copy the decision tree!
@SummerSkier glad it isn't too bad!
@polskagirl01 ugh, I was worried you would relapse at the time. Fingers crossed the light is of some use, and ****&/€!!! diet. The book is by Claire Maxted, former editor of UK Trail Running magazine. She has a YouTube channel Wild Ginger Running. I find her rather annoying, but she does have some good advice and in my book anyone who believes in pizza can't be too bad!
Talking of pizza, @tarun_yadavA there is no valid post-marathon meal that does not involve pizza. That would be a sin. End of story.
Life suddenly got crazy for me, my daughter is suffering from crippling anxiety to such an extent that she almost cannot leave the house without ending up in a heap on the floor. She's getting help but it's very early days, and it's so very draining. She's adamant she can't take the pressure of school (final exams are in June) and wants to quit. Now, to top it off, she has a flu bug. I had talked her into coming with us at the weekend and staying in the hotel room with her dad while I race, and maybe going to a pizza buffet place on the way home. So who knows what will happen, whether she'll be up to that, or I'll go alone, or I won't be able to go. I'm downing shots of echinacea and propolis hoping to dodge the germs, anyway.
Also, I found a map and profile of the race online. This will definitely be a training run with aid stations, and it will definitely be character building! 13 climbs, including a mile and a half long one at 14% near the beginning, 4 or 5 at 11-12% along the way, and a nice (sarcasm there) mile and a bit at 15% almost at the end!
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@SummerSkier @ScienceofTeaching Too many injuries here as of late! Hope y’all are on the mend.
@tarun_yadavA I agree with @eleanorhawkins that pizza is the ultimate post race food! I also have it frequently after my long runs. I find that about about 10-12 miles, I really crave pizza afterwards.
@eleanorhawkins You find races with the craziest elevation! Character building sounds like a good way to describe that one. Sorry to hear your daughter’s anxiety is so bad right now. Mental health challenges are so hard, especially with our kids. Mine has had some rough months this last year (though currently is not in a terrible place) and my husband and I have really struggled with how best to help them. It’s so hard. Hugs to you!3 -
February total: 22.4/125 miles
2/1: 3.1 miles
2/3: 5.2 miles
2/4: 9 miles
2/6: 5.1 miles
I went to my first Pilates class Sunday and I am still sore! Yesterday was easy miles, and I am so grateful for that. My glutes were so sore there is no way I could have mustered speed. I’m supposed to go do some speed work (400m repeats) today, but mentally I’m having a hard time getting out the door. I didn’t get a great night’s sleep and teenager woes have me stressed out.
Teenager woes…My kid was brought home by the cops at 2am this morning. They left the house a bit before midnight and were walking around the neighborhood, in the general direction of a friend’s house. So, we think they might have arranged with this friend to meet up. The constable saw them and brought them home. So today my husband I spent a bit of time figuring out how many times they have snuck out (looks like once before) and what we can lock down to make it harder to get away with. We have a basic level smart home system. Locks, alarm, cameras, various sensors all controlled by an app. They have control of quite a bit using their own code so they could come in and out as needed and not need keys. So we are working through all the permissions and figuring out how to make it so that they can’t disarm the alarm at night but still be able to unlock doors, etc. Our bedroom is at the back of the house so even though the system tells you when a door is opened, it’s too far away for us to hear it during the night. They obviously figured that out. I think we got it sorted out but it’s just so annoying that I can’t just trust them to freaking GO TO BED!!5 -
You're doing great @spl8 !
Nice run @Scott6255 ! Just go with the flow!
Great running @kgirlhart . Hope you enjoyed your rest day today.
Smart to take the day off @ScienceofTeaching ! I hope the swelling goes down and it feels better tomorrow. What do you teach?
@tarun_yadavA That will be a little chilly, but you have been running in worse. Great run today! You are going to do great come Sunday. Thanks re the quilt. I was thinking about a few weeks back, maybe it was when you ran the marathon distance, that you were complaining about having to dodge all the people. I hope you don't have that issue for the entire distance. Hopefully not! But you got in some good practice, if that is the case.
@SummerSkier I think you are doing great, considering your weather so far this month. I love USAA insurance, but they won't insure my house because I'm in the country and there is no fire hydrant nearby. I hope your knee feels better tomorrow. Probably a good idea to skip tennis.
Thanks @eleanorhawkins . Love your pun about "running around." So sorry about your daughter's anxiety and getting the flu. I hope she gets the help she needs and gets better soon and hope you dodge the flu and have a good race on Sunday. That course sounds brutal. Do we have a way to track you during your race?
@polskagirl01 Thanks. I have a friend who restores old quilts. She does a fantastic job. I'm not sure I would be very good at that. You'll have to post a picture after you finish the UFO. What is causing the air quality to be so poor? Is that normal. I'm sorry you had a set back with the long CoVID. You are a trouper for hanging in there and doing what you can every day. I hope the light therapy works. I'm sure it is a certain wavelength. Do you know what it is?
@martaindale You're doing great with your running. I guess being sore after Palates means that it did you some good. Sorry about your teenager woes. It sounds like you and DH are handling it well.
It was really nice out here again this afternoon - mostly sunny and 61F (16.1C). I did driveway laps again. This is a cut back week, so the plan called for a 30 min easy run. I ran 2.25 miles in 30:33 min for an average pace of 13:35 min/mile. I had intended to keep my HR under 130, but when, during the warm up walk it got up to 127, I knew that wasn't going to happen, unless I walked the whole thing. So, I ran by feel today (did walk up the hills). My avg HR was 141 with a max of 155 bpm. I also walked a mile total for warm up and cool down.
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@shanaber and @martaindale so sorry for you and your kids. That is such a gut wrenching feeling to see them in such dispair. You never outgrow being a parent 😔
@SummerSkier and @AlphaHowls I really like the pain scale 😁
@polskagirl01 I hope you can find some answers. The light therapy sounds interesting.
Cold and rainy here. Got 8 miles on the treadmill.
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I stayed on my 16 week 5k running plan.
Here in week two I am doing :23 min run walks. It feels good to have about 10 days of continuity.5 -
@tarun_yadavA Just noticed your weather forecast. That looks like great racing weather!Mmmm... pizza. Is it okay to crave pizza even on very slow 4-mile runs?
Absolutely!quilteryoyo wrote: »@martaindale … Sorry about your teenager woes. It sounds like you and DH are handling it well.
I wouldn’t say that. In the midst of it, it feels like whatever we do is the wrong thing. Or rather that there isn’t really a good way to handle it. We’re just trying to make it to that magical point where everyone keeps telling us that they will become a normal human being again (early 20’s or so I’m told). Idk if all 3 of us will make it until then.4 -
February total: 27.9/125 miles
2/1: 3.1 miles
2/3: 5.2 miles
2/4: 9 miles
2/6: 5.1 miles
2/7: 5.5 miles
First speed work in a few months, 9 x 400m at 5k pace. I surprised myself by hitting my splits pretty much spot on. 400m repeats is a tough workout, but I was able to keep it consistent and I wasn’t working too hard to get to my 5k pace. I guess I am pretty well recovered, so that’s good.4 -
martaindale wrote: »@tarun_yadavA Just noticed your weather forecast. That looks like great racing weather!Mmmm... pizza. Is it okay to crave pizza even on very slow 4-mile runs?
Absolutely!quilteryoyo wrote: »@martaindale … Sorry about your teenager woes. It sounds like you and DH are handling it well.
I wouldn’t say that. In the midst of it, it feels like whatever we do is the wrong thing. Or rather that there isn’t really a good way to handle it. We’re just trying to make it to that magical point where everyone keeps telling us that they will become a normal human being again (early 20’s or so I’m told). Idk if all 3 of us will make it until then.
I cannot agree more with everything said here!
The only way is pizza.
And we feel exactly the same about our teenager woes. I saw the school counsellor yesterday and she told me the only bad way to handle these things is not to care. Early 20s?? Dammit, for some reason we keep telling ourselves it was gonna be 18.
@quilteryoyo no tracking. Right now there are 91 runners. It's a tiny village thing. Should be very authentic, not sure if that means awesome or horrific in this case6 -
Morning all
Another 7K!
@eleanorhawkins - OMG... So sorry to hear about your daughter. 😔
@eleanorhawkins @spl8 @martaindale - I guess, pizza 🍕 it is!!! ☺️
@quilteryoyo - I think I should be okay on Sunday, RE: people. We'll all be running!
My rant the other day was more around City running. Pedestrians, Traffic lights, people loitering, on their phones not looking... Dog walkers. The worst. OMG. Little fufu, rats on leashes, the long leashes, taking up most of the pavement. Lol. Don't think I'll have that problem! Lol7 -
@martaindale and @eleanorhawkins I am really sorry to hear about your kid issues. I hope that things get better/easier soon! I agree that the most important thing is to care and be there, but it can't be easy!
@polskagirl01 Sorry to hear that you are feeling bad again! I really hope that your new treatment helps! What is up with the air quality? That sucks too. Why is it so poor at the moment? I hope everything improves soon!
@eleanorhawkins That sounds like quite a mountain run and only 91 participants! The hills definitely add in multiple layers of difficulty, especially when they are so steep. The city I live in doesn't really have many hills, much less mountains, so I am definitely under-trained there. There are a couple bigger hills I could drive to, but I am always in a time crunch to get my run in, so I usually run in places that are along the routes I have to drive anyways! What about this marathon you are training for? Will there be hills/mountains in that race too?
Yesterday I took a rest day because the kindergarten was closed and I had two kids at home. Today I got in 9km. I tried speeding up parts of it, but my leg still hurts and I kept thinking of the decision tree @AlphaHowls and @SummerSkier. While I was running I was thinking I was a 3, but after reviewing it again, I think my mind wants it to be a 2/3, but my leg feels more like a 6 when I accelerate. I am thinking the best thing at this point would be to actually not run at an accelerated pace (even though I really really really want to!). So tomorrow, base run it is. I might also make do it on the treadmill to make sure my legs aren't too cold. I really hope that this problem goes away soon!
It was oh so cold here again today. When I went out -5 Celsius. BUT, the sun was shining, and it has hardly made an appearance these last weeks, so that was really nice.
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quilteryoyo wrote: »@polskagirl01 Thanks. I have a friend who restores old quilts. She does a fantastic job. I'm not sure I would be very good at that. You'll have to post a picture after you finish the UFO. What is causing the air quality to be so poor? Is that normal. I'm sorry you had a set back with the long CoVID. You are a trouper for hanging in there and doing what you can every day. I hope the light therapy works. I'm sure it is a certain wavelength. Do you know what it is?
There's a loooong complicated explanation... but briefly, the lights are Red(660) and Near-Infared(830). This is NOT the same as infared. The wavelength used has a long track record of being safe, but it's of course all still in the testing phase. They know that covid breaks a certain element in the electron transport chain in the cells (think mitochondria and energy production), and they know that that particular element responds to this specific type of light for healing, but whether we can fix the chain just by shining the light on ourselves, remains to be seen. The in-person study hasn't been "unblinded" yet.
If you like to read pages and pages of scientific explanation, check it out over at ltcovid.com
But if you get lost there, I also came across a podcast on how light is used to treat other conditions - search for the "Huberman Lab" podcast, 4/18/22 "Using Light..."
@eleanorhawkins I'm sorry to hear about the teenager anxiety. It's hard enough being that age, without adding in anxiety (and added pandemics, lockdowns, and exams). The exams at the end of high school are a huge stressor for kids in Poland, too. It's TOO big a deal, in my opinion. So big hugs to you and her if she's accepting hugs, and I hope you're able to get quality help and coping strategies for her.martaindale wrote: »I wouldn’t say that. In the midst of it, it feels like whatever we do is the wrong thing. Or rather that there isn’t really a good way to handle it. We’re just trying to make it to that magical point where everyone keeps telling us that they will become a normal human being again (early 20’s or so I’m told). Idk if all 3 of us will make it until then.
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You're killing that treadmill @Scott6255 !
Great consistency @chris_in_cal !
@martaindale It's too bad that kids don't come with an "owners" manual. Maybe the fact that the police brought them home had a bigger impact on them than they show to you. AND, at least that let you know what was going on so you can address it. Deep breath and do what you feel is best. That's all you can do. I feel that as long as things are done in love, it'll work out. Great running yesterday and glad to see that you have recovered so well.
@eleanorhawkins "It's a tiny village thing. Should be very authentic, not sure if that means awesome or horrific in this case "
Hahaha You are going to do great and I look forward to hearing all about it.
Great run @tarun_yadavA ! "Little fufu, rats on leashes." You are right. It will be a lot better and hopefully all the runners will allow those of you who are so speedy the right of way.
@Laurz9191 Sorry your leg is giving you so many issues. Take is easy and hopefully it will heal quickly and you can get back to that speed work. Enjoy the sunshine.
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2-1 4k slooowww; resistance band training
2-2 golf swing training
2-3 3 k treadmill; resistance band training
2-4 golf swing training
2-5 4k slow
2-6 4k slow; resistance band training
2-7 golf swing training
2-8 4k slow; resistance band training
February total: 19 k
February goal: 50 k
Cloudy, mid 30s F, with no wind. A pleasant morning to run!!!5 -
martaindale wrote: »I went to my first Pilates class Sunday and I am still sore! Yesterday was easy miles, and I am so grateful for that. My glutes were so sore there is no way I could have mustered speed.
It might be the same with Pilates, I used to practice yoga a lot. It is kind of remarkable where I do pose #1 on day #1, and day #2 I am wrecked.
After a year of practice, doing pose #1 for ten minutes, and I still don't quite feel warmed up.
Back in the day, throwing out five junk miles of running and I would finish up think I should do a *real* long run. Whereas today, If I attempted a five mile run It's possible I could run/walk/crawl my way through it, but would be wrecked for the next week.
For me, your story teaches me the value of keep a wide variety of activities and movements. Kind of like an anti "over use" injury. A little bit of use of everything is what I hope to keep up.
I'm happy to hear you went to that class.3 -
I continue to have an achy mid-back when I do my wuns, despite my yoga and pre- and post- run dynamic stretching. I suspect my form is not great. And I need to work on my core strength. Anyone have suggestions.
Good luck with the marathon @tarun_yadavA. With all those laps you should treat it like a looong track meet.
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Thanks folks!
I meant to comment on the pilates @martaindale. Serious core work in there! I went to classes fir a while way back when I was still twice the size I am now. Keep thinking I should get back into that, but I wouldn't want to drop yoga to make time for it, so for now yoga wins.
@chris_in_cal I was thinking that just this morning during a particular yoga session I hadn't done lately, it felt so easy though I remembered it as a tough one.
@spl8 definitely work on core, maybe give pilates a go too? What about your shoes? Are they new, or old? Shoes can make a surprising difference ti a lot of things if they're not right for you, or if they're worn out.
I may have a little problem... there's a chance I could win a place at the Seville marathon, but it's on the 19th. If I do, and if I'm unable to convince myself that it would be a terrible terrible terrible idea, my legs could end up really hating me! I would 'Jeff' run-walk and hope to make the 6 hour cut-off time. But, it's a long way and I'm nowhere near marathon ready...
Talking of the other marathon, @laurz9191 , it's classed as a rural race meaning it's countryside and mostly dirt, some hills but no mountains. It's advertised as having about 550m of elevation, though my coach won it last year and according to his strava it was more like 700. The official profile I found shows 15 hills but the steepest are 5% and the longest ones are about a mile. The cool thing is it runs through the vineyards. Google Sherry marathon to see what I'm on about and why I need to start drinking in preparation lol
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Same cold rain today. Running late and had to stop to make dinner, so only 7 treadmill miles. I hope I don't wear this thing out 😉
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@eleanorhawkins my initial vote is no on the marathon this time, train and do the next marathon when you're better prepared. But the disclaimer is this: if the mountain race you're training for is going to take you more than 6 hours of hard exertion to complete, and if it goes ok, and if you can wait and assess your level of readiness/crazy a few days after that race... maybe yes? Maybe you're already set on it though in which case I'll cheer you on either way.3
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polskagirl01 wrote: »@eleanorhawkins my initial vote is no on the marathon this time, train and do the next marathon when you're better prepared. But the disclaimer is this: if the mountain race you're training for is going to take you more than 6 hours of hard exertion to complete, and if it goes ok, and if you can wait and assess your level of readiness/crazy a few days after that race... maybe yes? Maybe you're already set on it though in which case I'll cheer you on either way.
My common sense is also no... especially as the longest I've gone recently was 24k (though there was over 1000m of elevation on that). Plus... a week after a race (albeit a C-race that I'm totally treating as a long training run with aid stations and company). I know. It's a disaster waiting to happen.
If I'm 'unlucky' and win this place I think the last day I can formalise the inscription is Monday, when I'm likely to be sore from Sunday, so that may be enough to stop me! I have a post-race session booked with the evil physio for Wednesday anyway.
But then the disclaimers are... I would be taking it very very slowly, in fact aiming to get as close to last place as possible, just to say I've conquered the distance. It's said to be the flattest marathon in Europe. I've done over 5 and a quarter hours (albeit 4 months ago) with a lot of hills. It would be so cool!
Having said that, I went out for an hour shake-out this morning and deliberately targeted the pace I'd need, constantly asking myself if I could do that for another 5 hours in a row. 8 out of 10 brain cells said "*kitten* no!"4 -
Morning all.
Today's 7K! Last one now before Sunday!
(Will go for a 1M trot on Saturday in between stretches just to make sure everything is in order and no 'seizing up' on the day!)6
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