I don't think I'm eating enough.

avatiach

+1 to getting a food scale. It really helps calibrate portion sizes. I keep mine on grams rather than ounces.

paperpudding

I can agree that unpleasant hunger torture is not desirable. It gets better the longer you do it. This isn't my 1st rodeo though

The idea is to have a first and only rodeo ie to lose weight and keep it off.

Most people will do that far more successfully not pushing through some sort of hunger torture regime.

No need for it to get better the longer you do it - far better to have a sensible plan that doesn't involve white knuckling through self torture.

kshama2001

AnnPT77 wrote: »

Dan__Cote wrote: »

paperpudding wrote: »

Dan cote,

The aim is to lose weight long term and keep it off.

Making this a battle of willpower and forcing yourself to adhere to some sort of horrible unpleasant submission of hunger torture is most unlikely to result in long term success.

It might work for 11 days - but I doubt any of the long termers here found long term success with that sort of plan

And apple cider concoctions of any sort do nothing for weight loss.

I can agree that unpleasant hunger torture is not desirable. It gets better the longer you do it. This isn't my 1st rodeo though. I'm new to this forum, not the life. I've been bulking and cutting for the majority of the time since i was in my early 20s. It works for me. Apple cider vinegar doesn't directly make you lose weight. true. It just makes you not have hunger pangs for a while.

Actually, no, not universally. During weight loss, I drank apple cider vinegar daily for weeks at a time, and didn't drink it for other weeks at a time. (Reasons for starting and stopping had nothing to do with weight loss.) It had zero observable effect on my hunger or weight loss rate. I don't dispute that your experience is true for you, but you're on shaky ground when you tell other people how they will feel. They might, they might not. The research I've read on this point suggests minor effects, at most.

I use to use it during extended field training in the Army to keep hunger away, and I use it during cutting to do the same. It's best if most dieters don't follow my exact advice. It is extremely difficult to manage. Like with anyone's advice on here. Take what you like and leave the rest. Experiment. Try new things. Oh yeah, down another .4lbs since my original post. You don't NEED to burn 3600 calories to lose a pound of pure fat (insert mind-blown emoji). Hormones are powerful. The human body is complicated. To oversimplify such a complex subject that even "experts" don't know everything about is... Anywho, this has turned into a debate forum. Sorry.

back to the original subject.

Yes. 1200 calories seems realistic. Just move your body and drink a ton of water. Stay with it!

Yes, since 2016, also for reasons unrelated to weight loss, I've drank ACV daily. It has had zero affect on my weight or appetite.

tomcustombuilder

In 2009 I needed to lose 20 lbs so drank ACV and lot the weight but I'm sure the extra cardio and all the chicken breasts had nothing to do with it.

Hiawassee88

Courage is fire, but blowing smoke doesn't make wishes come true. You're very smart, Dan. I don't think you really believe these things, either. Some people might, but that's why the moderators hold fast to the boundaries. They care. I appreciate all of them.

This is definitely not my first rodeo with smokescreens.

aprilgranier

wow, it seems this thread took on a life of it's own. As a follow up to my original post, I will update ya'll. I DID end up increasing my calories a couple weeks ago because I was feeling weak. That in no way stalled my weight loss. I feel like it increased it, but there is no way to know if I would have lost anyway. I'm six weeks in, and down 10lbs, which seems like a very healthy and sustainable loss. I'm still very much in a calorie deficit, and I feel so much better. I'm currently eating 1500-1600 calories a day. I walk a minimum of 45 minutes a day and then either do some type of HotWorx yoga, isometrics, barre, etc. workout or another 45 minute walk, every day. My steps are averaging 12,000 a day. So, yes, this calorie goal is suiting me much better, and I feel better.

PAV8888

So, re importance of reasonable goal setting, as an abbreviation based SOLELY on the number of steps you average, you're coming in somewhere between active and very active in terms of TDEE estimators

Reminds me of the time someone explained to me when I was in the 230s and averaging over 10k steps a day that I wasn't actually sedentary regardless of how I thought of myself at the time.