hi

avamay31305

hi

Retroguy2000

You have definitely made changes to your lifestyle.

You'll start to lose weight with a calorie deficit. At least 500 per day.

paperpudding

or even 250 per day if you don't have a lot to lose

Retroguy2000

OP originally said they had gained 70 pounds in a year, with no lifestyle changes.

paperpudding

Ah, ok. none of that information is showing now.

sollyn23l2

paperpudding wrote: »

Ah, ok. none of that information is showing now.

Yah, they went in and deleted it. Wonder why that could be🫤

PAV8888

If the op doesn't want their post to exist they could go to the original post, "flag" it for moderation, and click on "report" choosing the report option: "this is my post and I want to delete it"

Retroguy2000

Not just this (OP just said they're 18 and gained 70 in a year, not much else), but also in the bodybuilding sub forum, someone posted a long post yesterday asking for programming advice.

I gave them a ton of info. There was no acknowledgment, no thanks... and they deleted their thread. It really puts me off ever helping anyone in future tbh.

snowflake954

Retroguy2000 wrote: »

Not just this (OP just said they're 18 and gained 70 in a year, not much else), but also in the bodybuilding sub forum, someone posted a long post yesterday asking for programming advice.

I gave them a ton of info. There was no acknowledgment, no thanks... and they deleted their thread. It really puts me off ever helping anyone in future tbh.

I'm very sorry this happened. I know you put a lot into your posts. We, who are regularly on here, know it and appreciate your time and advice.

AnnPT77

Retroguy2000 wrote: »

Not just this (OP just said they're 18 and gained 70 in a year, not much else), but also in the bodybuilding sub forum, someone posted a long post yesterday asking for programming advice.

I gave them a ton of info. There was no acknowledgment, no thanks... and they deleted their thread. It really puts me off ever helping anyone in future tbh.

Don't leave.

It's a minority. They're probably troubled in some way. It's not about you.

If all the helpful, knowledgeable people like you quit posting in the Community, the majority of people - ones who actually want help and benefit (even if they never post and only read) will only get the usual nonsense advice about body confusion/shocking, all HIIT all day, cut out all white foods to lose weight, do multi-day water fasts every week, blah blah blah.

Please don't leave.

Retroguy2000

Thanks for the support.

I'm probably going to consider a users post count in future, and maybe glance if they've actually come back to the site. All too often, people say they want help and say they intend to make changes, but they don't really. And that's their choice. That's fine. Don't waste other peoples time who are trying to help you though.

AnnPT77

Retroguy2000 wrote: »

Thanks for the support.

I'm probably going to consider a users post count in future, and maybe glance if they've actually come back to the site. All too often, people say they want help and say they intend to make changes, but they don't really. And that's their choice. That's fine. Don't waste other peoples time who are trying to help you though.

Retro, generally but especially when I was new here, I got a lot (a huge lot) of really useful information by reading posts that were answers to someone else's questions. Have you?

snowflake954

AnnPT77 wrote: »

Retroguy2000 wrote: »

Thanks for the support.

I'm probably going to consider a users post count in future, and maybe glance if they've actually come back to the site. All too often, people say they want help and say they intend to make changes, but they don't really. And that's their choice. That's fine. Don't waste other peoples time who are trying to help you though.

Retro, generally but especially when I was new here, I got a lot (a huge lot) of really useful information by reading posts that were answers to someone else's questions. Have you?

I agree with Ann---remember the lurkers. Some people don't post, but gather information just the same. It's not a waste to give good advice. You are appreciated.

PAV8888

I agree about the lurker count. I admit to having been frustrated more than once with responses disappearing either because the OP deleted their post or moderation deleted the post.

I am not going to claim that either or both have not had some effect on me and on my desire to post answers and the type of answers. Nor am I going to claim that the type of answers I give and or the frequency of answers I've deleted or completed have not morphed over time.

But I don't know that a perfect solution that is universal and correct 100% of the time does exist.

At the end of the day I benefited from the forums directly. I felt compelled to contribute as a result. But I also acknowledge that as things change that participation becomes variable.

This has been even more true since I started logging elsewhere a few years back when the deletion of old data for free accounts was an official thing.

That said level-headed and well thought out input can probably make a difference in the life of a stranger.

And I certainly feel positive about some of the memes I've pushed or contributed to over the years ... weight trend and patience, make sure you've got consistent measurements and correct based on results, make decisions that encourage long-term adherence.... and more along these lines 🤷‍♂️

kshama2001

Retroguy2000 wrote: »

Thanks for the support.

I'm probably going to consider a users post count in future, and maybe glance if they've actually come back to the site. All too often, people say they want help and say they intend to make changes, but they don't really. And that's their choice. That's fine. Don't waste other peoples time who are trying to help you though.

I'll answer interesting questions from low post count people for them or for the lurkers, but for the usual, "Halp! I can't lose weight and am doing everything right" questions I'll ask them to open their diary. If they are not willing to do that, I'm not willing to invest.

In over 11 years, I've only seen one person from whom I had enough information to agree that they were indeed logging accurately. I referred her to her doctor.

For everyone else, I've suspected (or been convinced, with enough info) that the problem lay somewhere here:

kshama2001

I was expecting a bunch of "Hi's" in this thread so am going to drop one in anyway despite it turning into a serious discussion:

AnnPT77

I figure if the OP does something like this case, it's legit to take the thread anywhere we want to.

I do get discouraged and am tempted to stop posting sometimes, despite feeling a debt to the Community for the help I've gotten over the long haul (most of it not from questions I asked!). (I feel like I owe some effort back.)

For me, though, what's dispiriting is not the cases where I invest in a reply and the OP bails. It's more the (IMO) toxic negativity that pops up very occasionally - people who don't contribute, but are insulting to others who do; complain that there's hive mind; claim "too many know-it-alls" when people disagree with their personal opinions; etc. That, and the level of persistent mythology that runs through popular press diet/fitness articles, advice from cheesy "influencers", etc., then pops up routinely here. That's discouraging.

I hate it when knowledgeable, helpful, thoughtful people leave (or stop posting), though. This has been IMO a really helpful, no-nonsense forum, but it seems like it slips slowly downhill when something happens that makes good people bail.

snowflake954

What I love about zombie threads is going through the old posts and seeing posters that I recognize from before. There were some great and knowledgeable people on here in the past. Gone. Not that there aren't any today, but it's a handful compared to before.

The boards used to be so interesting with all those people contributing. Kudos to those of you who remain and give your time and knowledge. It is appreciated.