Intermittent Fasting

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  • neanderthin
    neanderthin Posts: 10,262 Member
    edited April 2
    LinsClarke2202 wrote: »
    Further I saw a video of a Dr saying that a 36:12burns belly fat specifically.
    I believe the Dr. might be suffering from a "brain cloud" and a sea voyage to the volcanic Island of Waponi Woo might be the only remedy, just kidding. :D

    Anyway, a 36 hour "alternate day fast" will burn adipose tissue for energy, and yes, some will be belly fat but it's not specifically just belly fat, that's not how it works and this happens anytime our energy reserves dip into our adipose and not just during a fast.

  • Aesop101
    Aesop101 Posts: 758 Member
    That visceral fat is stubborn.
  • AnnPT77
    AnnPT77 Posts: 34,610 Member
    Aesop101 wrote: »
    That visceral fat is stubborn.

    Visceral fat is on the inside of the body cavity, around the organs. IMU, it will often be among the first and easiest fat to be lost. That's a good thing, since it has some of the worst impact on health.

    Someone who has a lot of visceral fat may have some protruding belly from it pushing out from the inside . . . but usually what people call "belly fat" (or a pooch or the like) is fat on the abdomen, between the skin and the abdominal muscles, exterior to the body cavity. If it's there, it would be subcutaneous fat, not visceral fat.

    The exterior abdominal fat is often the last to go, for many people . . . in that sense, it may be considered stubborn. Some people won't be able to lose all they wish of it without other parts of their body looking/being too thin.
  • paperpudding
    paperpudding Posts: 9,302 Member
    LinsClarke2202 wrote: »
    This dr is right. But the point of fasting is to get into a calorie deficit. So intermittent fasting works.
    Further I saw a video of a Dr saying that a 36:12 burns belly fat specifically.

    The point of fasting seems to vary according to who is doing it, religious reasons etc

    However intermittent fasting, as far as working to lose weight goes, only gets you into a calorie deficit if you eat less than you burn - exactly the same as getting into a calorie deficit without intermittent fasting.
  • ddsb1111
    ddsb1111 Posts: 885 Member
    edited April 3
    I know one person in my life who does them as a substitute/self-treatment for her binge eating and she's always bouncing between euphoria and severe depression. It's dangerous, and addictive and I can clearly see from the outside how miserable she is all the time.

    This is why I recommend taking it slow when starting IF. I even consider 16/8 too much for most people at the beginning. It takes time to physically and mentally adapt to something as extreme as not eating for long periods of time.

    I find if you’re all or nothing with dieting, then you’re likely going to be all or nothing with IF, and they’re both a recipe for disaster. It can be a tool for weight loss, or another tool for disordered eating, but it’s certainly not a cure for either one.

    For the amount of people that misuse IF it’s a shame we don’t have a more active IF board to redirect and help more people faster. I’d be pinning stickies constantly. With YT being the “expert” it’s no wonder it’s like herding cats around here.
  • Aesop101
    Aesop101 Posts: 758 Member
    PAV8888 wrote: »
    You may hate me. Or think that I am an MFP meanie.

    But seriously @Aesop101 please take the time to go talk to a registered dietitian or someone who works with your board certified physician to provide you with health advice.

    You are 70 years old. 40 days ago you posted that you discovered Dr Fung and fasting and you are now talking about 45 hour and 18 hour fasts. 40 days in and already performing two day fasts is, at the very least... fast.

    Visceral fat is the FIRST to go from around your organs. It is not visible--your visible belly fat is subcutaneous. Too many fasts and too little protein can have actual organ failure implications.

    It's your organs... not mine. But I remind you that just because someone "feels" good it doesn't mean that they are objectively performing good! Remember back in the day when tipsy people felt "great" and "alert" and were "ready to drive" while everyone around them was arguing that they shouldn't?

    Sometimes feeling good means you're doing good. Sometimes it doesn't.

    But from where I am sitting, maybe I am wrong, but from where I am sitting, it SOUNDS like you are engaging in some serious self medical management based on less than stellar sources of information. And you are doing this while in the process of trying to manage more than one health problem if one assumes that CAT scans are not for fun.

    Don't be like an older friend of mine who only takes her blood pressure pills when she "feels like it", thus self managing herself into an early grave. Talk with your doctor and discuss IN FULL what you're doing.

    Take care.

    I appreciate your sincerity and it's very well written. I've found dieticians still pull out the food pyramid and the divided plate. The food pyramid should be retired. It was a marketing scheme promoted by only one man. The divided plate is terrible for us diabetics. They have one third of the plate just for carbs. The woman that is the director of nutrition at the American Diabetes association is obese! As one guy noted, it looks like she's following her own advice.

    I've seen several videos of people talking about diabetes. Fasting seems to be a common technique. The 45 hours I fasted was for a colonoscopy. Much of that was drinking some type of colon cleanse or swill as I call it. There's a channel out there called "Beating Diabetes", it's worth the watch.

    I'm not depressed in the slightest. I would ask your friend is she getting enough protein. Being a vegetarian will mess you up physically and mentally.

    Finally, my A1C had dropped to 6.3 from 14.7. My doctor was elated. She had a note to put me on insulin and tore it up in front of me.

    You are right about visceral fat, it does surround your organs deep in your belly.

    I fasted 18 hours today and made it to the wellness center to work out. Very last thing, fasting has happened all throughout history. It's part of our make up for survival.

    I still like your post though, well written and sincere.
  • PAV8888
    PAV8888 Posts: 14,304 Member
    edited April 6
    I am definitely glad your A1C has dropped down into the pre-diabetic range; i.e. heading in the right direction! :smiley:

    UGH: the swill!

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