Im too fat for the scale to have stopped moving!
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But you wouldn't. You may gain a little, but if you're eating at what should be a 1000 calorie deficit and increase your calories by 300 a day, that should still be a 700 calorie deficit, right? So how are you going to gain weight long term eating fewer calories than your body is burning?
It's the initial change your body has to adjust to. If you increased your calories very gradually (add 50-100 to each day for a week, then 50-100 more for a week, and so on). You probably wouldn't see any actual weight gain at all.
But I already did, my body just cant handle 2000 calories.
No, you did not.
What I'm suggesting, if you think you need to increase your calories from 1500, is for you to start by eating 1550 each day for a week. Then eat 1600 each day for 7 days; then 1650; then 1700. Only increase by 50 calories every WEEK.
If you've only been at a "plateau" for 2 weeks, I don't understand how you're claiming you've attempted to increase your calorie intake slowly in addition to giving your body a chance to adjust. Doing so could easily take 2 months.
I admit I'm a little frustrated with your automatic dismissal of the responses you're getting here. Why bother asking for help and suggestions if you're going to shoot down the advice you get without even trying it?
Because I cant up my calories. Theres no way I can eat 2000 calories without eating crappy food, therefore making the calorie count higher.0 -
I'm sorry but I have to agree with LittleSpy. If you haven't moved in two weeks how have you given the higher calorie intake a chance? Several people have posted that you need to give it time and gradually increase. Might be worth just giving a shot. I mean this in the nicest way possible and truely want you to do well in this journey. Trust me, it too me FOREVER to wrap my head around the fact that eating more is a good thing. You have to think about it is as the current weight you are at you were previously conusimg way more calories to maintain that weight. So you may have gained a pound but it's not what you eating or a true gain I'm sure. Its most likely water retention. Either from food or exercise. Your muscles retain water after an intense workout. It seems like you are getting some really intense workouts so this could very well be the case for you. Carbs are definitely going to hinder the weight loss as well. If you switch out those carbs for fruits and veggies I bet you would start seeing a change. Again, this is what has worked for me. But my best suggestion is to try something new and give it a real chance to work.0
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OK maybe I can help you guys out, I had lapband sugery , so I can not physically eat all those calories without having my food be bad. I can understand if you guys cant understand that, but I need to find a different way to lose the weight, but thanks for all your help anyways :-)0
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But you wouldn't. You may gain a little, but if you're eating at what should be a 1000 calorie deficit and increase your calories by 300 a day, that should still be a 700 calorie deficit, right? So how are you going to gain weight long term eating fewer calories than your body is burning?
It's the initial change your body has to adjust to. If you increased your calories very gradually (add 50-100 to each day for a week, then 50-100 more for a week, and so on). You probably wouldn't see any actual weight gain at all.
But I already did, my body just cant handle 2000 calories.
No, you did not.
What I'm suggesting, if you think you need to increase your calories from 1500, is for you to start by eating 1550 each day for a week. Then eat 1600 each day for 7 days; then 1650; then 1700. Only increase by 50 calories every WEEK.
If you've only been at a "plateau" for 2 weeks, I don't understand how you're claiming you've attempted to increase your calorie intake slowly in addition to giving your body a chance to adjust. Doing so could easily take 2 months.
I admit I'm a little frustrated with your automatic dismissal of the responses you're getting here. Why bother asking for help and suggestions if you're going to shoot down the advice you get without even trying it?
Because I cant up my calories. Theres no way I can eat 2000 calories without eating crappy food, therefore making the calorie count higher.
I understand the predicament, but unfortunately we all have to find a way to do that. Because one day all of us will be on maintenance calories and have to eat more than we currently are. Upping it 50 calories a week might also help you find small ways to increase your calories in a healthy manner. Because you won't be adding 500 calories at once you'll have to keep the additions small and therefore it wouldn't be a huge gap to fill in.
Baby steps. 50 calories a week is less than 1 boiled egg. and only a little more than 3.5 oz of carrots.
Baby steps.0 -
Um, yes there is and it does NOT have to be "crappy food". Looks like you have a lot of friends on here...I would start looking at different food diaries to get some ideas. After doing a fantastic job, I would hate to see you self sabotage. YOU CAN DO THIS.But you wouldn't. You may gain a little, but if you're eating at what should be a 1000 calorie deficit and increase your calories by 300 a day, that should still be a 700 calorie deficit, right? So how are you going to gain weight long term eating fewer calories than your body is burning?
It's the initial change your body has to adjust to. If you increased your calories very gradually (add 50-100 to each day for a week, then 50-100 more for a week, and so on). You probably wouldn't see any actual weight gain at all.
But I already did, my body just cant handle 2000 calories.
No, you did not.
What I'm suggesting, if you think you need to increase your calories from 1500, is for you to start by eating 1550 each day for a week. Then eat 1600 each day for 7 days; then 1650; then 1700. Only increase by 50 calories every WEEK.
If you've only been at a "plateau" for 2 weeks, I don't understand how you're claiming you've attempted to increase your calorie intake slowly in addition to giving your body a chance to adjust. Doing so could easily take 2 months.
I admit I'm a little frustrated with your automatic dismissal of the responses you're getting here. Why bother asking for help and suggestions if you're going to shoot down the advice you get without even trying it?
Because I cant up my calories. Theres no way I can eat 2000 calories without eating crappy food, therefore making the calorie count higher.0 -
How does having a lap band prevent you from eating HEALTHY food and not crappy food? I am seriously confused.OK maybe I can help you guys out, I had lapband sugery , so I can not physically eat all those calories without having my food be bad. I can understand if you guys cant understand that, but I need to find a different way to lose the weight, but thanks for all your help anyways :-)0 -
How does having a lap band prevent you from eating HEALTHY food and not crappy food? I am seriously confused.OK maybe I can help you guys out, I had lapband sugery , so I can not physically eat all those calories without having my food be bad. I can understand if you guys cant understand that, but I need to find a different way to lose the weight, but thanks for all your help anyways :-)0 -
We have already gone over the science behind increased calorie intact. Let's try completely unscientific metaphors now. Right now you are starving your body, it is a poor African orphan who no matter how badly wants some food it just can't get any. Now one day the UN comes and gives this child (aka your body) a whole loaf of bread. Boy is that child happy now! But does he scarf it all down in one go? No, he SAVORS every single bite of that loaf. He portions it out so the lovely enjoyment lasts longer. That is what your body is doing when you increase your calorie count. It holds on to them and savors them.
Now we give that child a loaf of bread EVERY day. Do you think by the 3rd week this child is still savoring every bite of his bread? Probably not, he knows there will just be another one tomorrow.
This is what we are trying to get you to do. You need to teach your body that you are not going through a famine. That there is in fact more than enough food around to survive and it can relax on the survival instincts and start letting those calories slide here and there because there will always be more tomorrow.
Do it for the starving African child!
(Now for some more of that science ... mmmm science)
Your body takes one form of energy and converts it to another just like almost everything else in the world. There are two laws that govern all the energy in the universe. Those are the laws of thermodynamics.
The first law of thermodynamics states that you can not create or destroy energy. This is seen in everything from photosynthesis to nuclear bombs. It always holds true. The second law is a little more complex and involves isolated systems and entropy but it basically states that no system is 100% efficient this includes your body.
If we look at only the first law it would seem that if you don't burn the calories you eat then you will store them as fat. This is the general "accepted" view of calorie counting but it is in fact wrong because that breaks the 2nd law.
It is this law that states that there is always a waste by product in all systems. This means that you don't burn every calorie you put in your body, some of them are changed to waste energy and some of it is quite simply discarded through your bodies wastes. With this law you can begin to see that your body doesn't have to "burn" or "store" all calories put in (but it does have to do something with them as per law 1).
Thus increasing your calorie intact allows your body to get sloppy with the over storage of calories and it begins simply discarding them or running a more inefficient conversion. So the actual calorie "storage" is less even though calorie "intake" increased.
Now please realize this is all in balance and you can't just shoot your calorie intake through the roof hoping it won't keep any of them. The universe is constantly trying to balance out including your body.
Helpful at all?
*I am not a doctor the laws of thermodynamics are physical laws (aka Physics)0 -
OK maybe I can help you guys out, I had lapband sugery , so I can not physically eat all those calories without having my food be bad. I can understand if you guys cant understand that, but I need to find a different way to lose the weight, but thanks for all your help anyways :-)
Maybe I'm stupid but what does lapband have to do with not being able to eat good or bad food? 2000 calories is 2000 calories good or bad food. I would think more healthy food would go down better then greasey fast food.0 -
How does having a lap band prevent you from eating HEALTHY food and not crappy food? I am seriously confused.OK maybe I can help you guys out, I had lapband sugery , so I can not physically eat all those calories without having my food be bad. I can understand if you guys cant understand that, but I need to find a different way to lose the weight, but thanks for all your help anyways :-)
If i ate 2000 calories in healthy food, that would be alot of food! my body physically cant eat that much. I would throw up. pretty simple. Like i said, i can understand if you dont get it :-)0 -
We have already gone over the science behind increased calorie intact. Let's try completely unscientific metaphors now. Right now you are starving your body, it is a poor African orphan who no matter how badly wants some food it just can't get any. Now one day the UN comes and gives this child (aka your body) a whole loaf of bread. Boy is that child happy now! But does he scarf it all down in one go? No, he SAVORS every single bite of that loaf. He portions it out so the lovely enjoyment lasts longer. That is what your body is doing when you increase your calorie count. It holds on to them and savors them.
Now we give that child a loaf of bread EVERY day. Do you think by the 3rd week this child is still savoring every bite of his bread? Probably not, he knows there will just be another one tomorrow.
This is what we are trying to get you to do. You need to teach your body that you are not going through a famine. That there is in fact more than enough food around to survive and it can relax on the survival instincts and start letting those calories slide here and there because there will always be more tomorrow.
Do it for the starving African child!
LOL!!! love it.0 -
OK maybe I can help you guys out, I had lapband sugery , so I can not physically eat all those calories without having my food be bad. I can understand if you guys cant understand that, but I need to find a different way to lose the weight, but thanks for all your help anyways :-)
I would think more healthy food would go down better then greasey fast food.
Totally wrong.0 -
How does having a lap band prevent you from eating HEALTHY food and not crappy food? I am seriously confused.OK maybe I can help you guys out, I had lapband sugery , so I can not physically eat all those calories without having my food be bad. I can understand if you guys cant understand that, but I need to find a different way to lose the weight, but thanks for all your help anyways :-)
If i ate 2000 calories in healthy food, that would be alot of food! my body physically cant eat that much. I would throw up. pretty simple. Like i said, i can understand if you dont get it :-)
No, I get it. I get the fact that you are seriously misinformed.
I feel terrible telling you that--but with the awesome success you've had to date, I feel that you are self sabotaging yourself and are avoiding doing the right things for the wrong reasons.
I'm out--Good luck.0 -
OK maybe I can help you guys out, I had lapband sugery , so I can not physically eat all those calories without having my food be bad. I can understand if you guys cant understand that, but I need to find a different way to lose the weight, but thanks for all your help anyways :-)
I would think more healthy food would go down better then greasey fast food.
Totally wrong.
I guess your experience with lapband is completely different then others I know who have been through it. I hope you figure out what works best for you.0 -
Anyways, thanks everything for their suggestions :-)0
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How does having a lap band prevent you from eating HEALTHY food and not crappy food? I am seriously confused.OK maybe I can help you guys out, I had lapband sugery , so I can not physically eat all those calories without having my food be bad. I can understand if you guys cant understand that, but I need to find a different way to lose the weight, but thanks for all your help anyways :-)
If i ate 2000 calories in healthy food, that would be alot of food! my body physically cant eat that much. I would throw up. pretty simple. Like i said, i can understand if you dont get it :-)
Calories are not a physical representation of the volume of food. They are a measurement of the dormant energy lieing in the food.
Take a look at backpacking meals. Those things are chalked full of calories in a relatively small package. Same with energy bars.
You don't have to consume lots of food to get lots of calories. And similarly all high calorie food is not in fact unhealthy food.0 -
OK maybe I can help you guys out, I had lapband sugery , so I can not physically eat all those calories without having my food be bad. I can understand if you guys cant understand that, but I need to find a different way to lose the weight, but thanks for all your help anyways :-)
I would think more healthy food would go down better then greasey fast food.
Totally wrong.
I agree do not start eating more food. Like you stated you are still fat enough for you body to lose weight without increasing calories.... To go back to the starving kid. If you keep feeding your body the same amount of calories daily it has to let some of the fat go eventually. Have you ever seen any fat kids in Africa. Nope! Reason because they have no food so eventually your body will let go of the fat.
This is how the lap band caused you to lose weight in the 1st place. IF you have tried everything else and I mean everyt thing else for pleatues, then it may mean you need to increase calories, but I highly doubt it.
Your body is just resisting change. It may take time and expermintation but hang in there the weight will come off again.0 -
Bellanean,
Congrats on your progress so far! Great job!
I'd just like to suggest some healthy, high calorie options for you... all of which are favorites of mine and WISH I could more of them! Avocados, olive oil, nuts (unsalted) and natural nut butters (also unsalted if available): almond butter, peanut butter.
Just a tablespoon of almond butter can add 100 calories!0 -
Bellanean,
Congrats on your progress so far! Great job!
I'd just like to suggest some healthy, high calorie options for you... all of which are favorites of mine and WISH I could more of them! Avocados, olive oil, nuts (unsalted) and natural nut butters (also unsalted if available): almond butter, peanut butter.
Just a tablespoon of almond butter can add 100 calories!
Oh thank you, your so sweet! Ya I try to add olive oil to my cooking to get more calories when im short! haha. I never tried almond butter, I will have to check this out, thank you soo very much!0 -
OK maybe I can help you guys out, I had lapband sugery , so I can not physically eat all those calories without having my food be bad. I can understand if you guys cant understand that, but I need to find a different way to lose the weight, but thanks for all your help anyways :-)
I would think more healthy food would go down better then greasey fast food.
Totally wrong.
I agree do not start eating more food. Like you stated you are still fat enough for you body to lose weight without increasing calories.... To go back to the starving kid. If you keep feeding your body the same amount of calories daily it has to let some of the fat go eventually. Have you ever seen any fat kids in Africa. Nope! Reason because they have no food so eventually your body will let go of the fat.
This is how the lap band caused you to lose weight in the 1st place. IF you have tried everything else and I mean everyt thing else for pleatues, then it may mean you need to increase calories, but I highly doubt it.
Your body is just resisting change. It may take time and expermintation but hang in there the weight will come off again.
Im working on every other suggestion but raising my calories this week! Thanks, your a sweet heart!0 -
OK maybe I can help you guys out, I had lapband sugery , so I can not physically eat all those calories without having my food be bad. I can understand if you guys cant understand that, but I need to find a different way to lose the weight, but thanks for all your help anyways :-)
I would think more healthy food would go down better then greasey fast food.
Totally wrong.
I agree do not start eating more food. Like you stated you are still fat enough for you body to lose weight without increasing calories.... To go back to the starving kid. If you keep feeding your body the same amount of calories daily it has to let some of the fat go eventually. Have you ever seen any fat kids in Africa. Nope! Reason because they have no food so eventually your body will let go of the fat.
This is how the lap band caused you to lose weight in the 1st place. IF you have tried everything else and I mean everyt thing else for pleatues, then it may mean you need to increase calories, but I highly doubt it.
Your body is just resisting change. It may take time and expermintation but hang in there the weight will come off again.
Im working on every other suggestion but raising my calories this week! Thanks, your a sweet heart!
I hope it only takes one week!
That would be great! But sometimes stalls take longer to break. My longest stall was almost 2 months and it was 5 months after my RNY-WLS. 0 -
OK maybe I can help you guys out, I had lapband sugery , so I can not physically eat all those calories without having my food be bad. I can understand if you guys cant understand that, but I need to find a different way to lose the weight, but thanks for all your help anyways :-)
I would think more healthy food would go down better then greasey fast food.
Totally wrong.
I agree do not start eating more food. Like you stated you are still fat enough for you body to lose weight without increasing calories.... To go back to the starving kid. If you keep feeding your body the same amount of calories daily it has to let some of the fat go eventually. Have you ever seen any fat kids in Africa. Nope! Reason because they have no food so eventually your body will let go of the fat.
This is how the lap band caused you to lose weight in the 1st place. IF you have tried everything else and I mean everyt thing else for pleatues, then it may mean you need to increase calories, but I highly doubt it.
Your body is just resisting change. It may take time and expermintation but hang in there the weight will come off again.
Im working on every other suggestion but raising my calories this week! Thanks, your a sweet heart!
I hope it only takes one week! That would be great! But sometimes stalls take longer to break. My longest stall was almost 2 months and it was 5 months after my RNY-WLS.
omg 2 months! I would cry so hard! haha. Im almost 3 months out.0
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