Deep Ketosis

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  • neanderthin
    neanderthin Posts: 10,538 Member

    Yeah, OMAD doesn't work for me, maybe it's an age thing. I just can't eat enough food at one go to maintain weight and find myself hungry, so that just doesn't work. My diet relies not on calories, but satiety. So basically, eating until I'm full and to maintain my metabolism I have to eat twice a day, pretty basic really.

  • PiPDream01
    PiPDream01 Posts: 128 Member

    It's okay to do something that is hard

  • neanderthin
    neanderthin Posts: 10,538 Member

    "Out of difficulties grow miracles."

    — Jean de La Bruyère

  • PiPDream01
    PiPDream01 Posts: 128 Member

    An interesting question proposed on a podcast I was listening to yesterday was, there are hundreds of studies of fat lose, and obesity and weight loss. Studies that include different macro ratios. And all those studies have one thing on common calorie reduction and actually causes insulin drop. But this Doctor said we need to do the inverse of these studies and take a person of healthy weight and give them an exact same calorie surplus and different macro ratios and watch fat growth and this will help us understand more. Just a thought I think is interesting

  • PiPDream01
    PiPDream01 Posts: 128 Member

    Eating Burger patties and working on Spreadsheets 😁

  • PiPDream01
    PiPDream01 Posts: 128 Member

    Another interesting Idea, what is a balanced diet, what is the or what is your definition of a balanced diet? Just a thought exercise image living in 8 different places in the world would your definition and choices still be the same. Would it be based on meeting calorie needs, macro needs, micro nutrition, just thinking. IMO, we have to many choices to much verity and to easily of access to "food" Hmmmmmm

  • neanderthin
    neanderthin Posts: 10,538 Member
    edited March 10

    Historically, most humans consumed what was locally available, which often led to limited variety and we have survived and trived for over 3 million years. However, modern science now emphasizes a balanced diet because we have a much deeper understanding of nutrition and its impact on health and our shining example of what that health looks like is on full display. Maybe if we were the Zoo animals and the wildlife was in control maybe the sign would say, "please feed the animals" lol, cheers.

  • PiPDream01
    PiPDream01 Posts: 128 Member

    Hmmmm curious maybe species coevolved over 300,000 with the food in their environment? Like why are certain groups of people better adapted to eating certain foods or others have a bad reaction to it?

    Similar to maybe why are avocadoes toxic to dogs and can kill them but we eat them? not the same but similar

  • PiPDream01
    PiPDream01 Posts: 128 Member

    WoW I think Super Size Me should be mandatory viewing 🤣 what a crazy film

  • PiPDream01
    PiPDream01 Posts: 128 Member

    My perfect diet right now is burgers, butter and Celtic salt 😁 I'm addicted to it

  • robertw486
    robertw486 Posts: 2,471 Member

    I would need lots of burger patties. My spreadsheet foo is crap!

  • robertw486
    robertw486 Posts: 2,471 Member

    But on the flip side it might be even more informative to use parts of Super Size Me, and show the examples of those losing weight and improving health markers by eating reasonable portions of only McDonalds food.

  • neanderthin
    neanderthin Posts: 10,538 Member
    edited March 12

    Yeah, we are not dogs and there will be biological reasons that are inherent to a particular animal and other animal species which are not applicable to the human animal. It's mostly through the the ability of liver enzymes that are capable of metabolizing persin, which is the compound in question into harmless byproducts from consuming avocado's.

    Among humans is more about adaptability and not something toxic to a particular culture in the general sense. Some peoples will have problems adapting to for example lactose, gluten, spicy food, fermented foods not to mention allergies and sensitivity but I can't think of a culture that eats a certain way that would be toxic like the dog example. Of course there's probably hundreds of plant compounds found in nature that are actual toxins for humans.

  • PiPDream01
    PiPDream01 Posts: 128 Member

    How would know if it is not toxic to you, if you aren't having visible signs on the outside of your body, because it could be toxic, and also some signs we do not recognize as a sign of toxic food or blame something else.

  • neanderthin
    neanderthin Posts: 10,538 Member

    Losing weight will result in fewer metabolites or compounds that are shown to be an issue for good health especially when overconsumed, so eating less of these antagonists will aways result in improved health markers and really has nothing to do with eating McDonalds.

  • PiPDream01
    PiPDream01 Posts: 128 Member

    Well, somebody kind of did that and it was interesting to say the least, A personal training out of Canada named Cole, Created the Snake Diet. He did a video serious on YouTube where he ate only McDonalds for 30 days BUT…he did OMAD style, so he did stay in a low insulin state for the majority or the time, could have been something to that, he did lose weight, and I don't remember the exact calories he ate every day. He is interesting to watch on YouTube because he does a lot N=1 experiments, high sugar diets, high fat diets, fasting (different types) so he does it all and seems to work for him. So, if you are ever walking on the treadmill and want to watch something pull him up.

  • neanderthin
    neanderthin Posts: 10,538 Member
    edited March 12

    Not sure where your going with this. I'm a person, not a culture.

  • PiPDream01
    PiPDream01 Posts: 128 Member
    edited March 12

    How would I know if eating an Avocado is not toxic to me? I will give you any example, my sister had bad back acne, she also had break outs on her back, when she was around 16 my parents to her to a doctor and they did a serious of allergy test on her and found out she was allergic to chocolate and strawberries and a few other foods but she really loved chocolate and strawberries and worked at the local DQ as a teen, but she started allergy shots and stayed away from those foods and it went away. She wasn't going into Anaphylactic shock so how would she have known this, look at how many people have skin issues in society.

  • neanderthin
    neanderthin Posts: 10,538 Member

    Are avocado's toxic to humans? Did you not read my earlier response in regards to cultural differences that might be toxic as opposed to individual susceptibility, you like to move the goal posts a lot.

  • PiPDream01
    PiPDream01 Posts: 128 Member

    no, the goal post is still the same, eat what is the best for you and I eat what is the best for me

    you said they are not toxic to humans but are for dogs and I said how do you know? just like T2D it doesn't happen overnight

  • neanderthin
    neanderthin Posts: 10,538 Member

    Because humans have been consuming avocado's for thousands of years. Deer can munch on hemlock, humans can't. Pigs can ear certain mushrooms that are deadly to humans, goat's can eat poison ivy, humans could find it fatal.

    What your referring to are the hundreds of compounds found in plant material in general that can't be toxic, which can effect individuals differently. We, individual humans, exists on a continuum from virtually no to little effect, to health implications from the slightest ingestion, and that's based on a myriad of reason.

    Genetics plays a big role, as does whether a person was born natural childbirth, vs C-section, health of our microbiome, exposure to pollutants or chemicals, pre existing health conditions, smoking, alcohol consumption, and drug use, age for example, children, pregnant women and the elderly and I'm sure I'm missing quite a few.

    This is the reason why for some people who are highly susceptible to plant compounds like Makaila Peterson for example, the originator of the lion diet, the diet your on, and others that find the carnivore diet so transformative, otherwise people do live to over a 100 yrs old consuming all kinds of fruit, veg and starch.

  • PiPDream01
    PiPDream01 Posts: 128 Member

    So native American people had Avocado 's and northern Europeans and Inuits. Do you know where avocados come from? I think I lost you along my journey. I am just speaking absolutely for myself and my personal journey here on this. And I feel amazing and I am not a rookie I'm turning 48 soon and can still run and lift heavy. I sleep great 😃 so I'm just going to keep doing my thing. One last thing just because something has something in it that could be beneficial to me but also has several bad things for me doesn't mean I'm going to eat it. There's probably some crap about cigarettes have a benefit but I'm not going smoke them but people have been smoking for hundreds of years. Anyways it's bedtime 😴 good night

  • neanderthin
    neanderthin Posts: 10,538 Member

    Have a good sleep. ✌️

  • PiPDream01
    PiPDream01 Posts: 128 Member

    Good morning, decided to try and see how cutting coffee out of my diet will feel, I have cut coffee out for months before but never with a diet I would consider to be as clean as I can get it. So, I see how this goes. I'll go 3-6 months before I consider drinking a cup. There are elements in a cup of coffee that can be considered beneficial but there are also neurological toxins.

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    While coffee itself doesn't contain inherent neurological toxins, excessive caffeine consumption can lead to "caffeinism" with symptoms like anxiety and agitation, and some studies suggest a link between high coffee consumption and an increased risk of dementia. However, coffee also contains compounds that can be neuroprotective.
    Here's a more detailed breakdown:
    Caffeine's Effects:
    Stimulant:
    Caffeine is a stimulant that increases activity in the brain and nervous system, leading to increased alertness and energy.
    Adenosine Receptor Blockade:
    Caffeine works by blocking adenosine receptors in the brain, which are involved in promoting drowsiness and relaxation.
    Caffeinism:
    Excessive caffeine intake (over 250mg) can lead to a condition called caffeinism, characterized by symptoms like anxiety, agitation, insomnia, and gastrointestinal issues.
    Potential Neuroprotective Effects:
    Some studies suggest that coffee consumption, particularly in moderation, may be associated with a lower risk of neurodegenerative diseases like Parkinson's and Alzheimer's.
    Acrylamide:
    Coffee roasting can lead to the formation of acrylamide, a chemical that is potentially harmful.
    Other Factors to Consider:
    Mold and Mycotoxins:
    Mold growth on coffee beans can produce mycotoxins, which are harmful and can cause various health problems.
    Individual Sensitivity:
    People react differently to caffeine, and some individuals are more sensitive to its effects than others.
    Moderation:
    Consuming coffee in moderation is generally considered safe, but excessive intake can lead to negative health consequences.
    Neuroprotective Compounds:
    Coffee contains compounds like quercetin, chlorogenic acid, and EHT, which have shown neuroprotective effects in some studies.
    In summary: While coffee itself is not a neurotoxin, excessive caffeine intake can cause negative neurological effects, and some studies suggest a link between high coffee consumption and an increased risk of dementia. However, coffee also contains compounds that can be neuroprotective, and consuming coffee in moderation is generally considered safe.

  • neanderthin
    neanderthin Posts: 10,538 Member

    Yeah, too much water is also not good. I drink coffee and have a conical grinder to prove my dedication.

  • PAV8888
    PAV8888 Posts: 14,679 Member
    edited March 13

    It seems like a fun thing to do to play and challenge one's self.

    It's also accomplishing and fun to see progress.

    Hard challenges for each of us as individuals is doing something hard for ourselves.

    If I'm used to taking cold showers for 40+ years, taking another cold shower would not be as much as a challenge as taking a warmish one!

    It's awesome that you explore extremes to see what shakes.

    I can't help but wonder how challenging and difficult it would be for you to aim 100% for the midpoint of everything!

    Hitting everything in moderation! I bet you can't do this, can you?

    Why? Because moderation and consistency is just as tough of a challenge as going all in! 😜

    (An aspirin may help reduce your caffeine withdrawal headache)😘

  • PAV8888
    PAV8888 Posts: 14,679 Member

    Apologies. I just re-registered that you're competing. So I will just wish you the best healthy success that you can achieve.

  • PiPDream01
    PiPDream01 Posts: 128 Member

    I have always been an all in personally, I need the challenge I think.

  • PiPDream01
    PiPDream01 Posts: 128 Member

    It's Friday 😁💪 Just FYI you don't get sick or fat over night or fit and healthy!!! You have to be an active participant in your life. Enjoy your weekend MFPs

  • PiPDream01
    PiPDream01 Posts: 128 Member

    Good morning beautiful ❤️

    Just sitting waiting to go do some squats and stuff, thinking why would somebody not want to know what they are truly capable of. To do that you need to mentally and physically healthy!!!