interesting discoveries regarding satiation

tmoneyag99

When I exercise in the morning I am less likely to binge that day.

Also yesterday I didn't workout, last night at dinner I tried to limit myself but I was so darned hungry... nothing satisfied until I ate a cup of Act II extreme butter popcorn.

Anyone know why this might be. Why popcorn satisfies so quickly?

sollyn23l2

tmoneyag99 wrote: »

When I exercise in the morning I am less likely to binge that day.

Also yesterday I didn't workout, last night at dinner I tried to limit myself but I was so darned hungry... nothing satisfied until I ate a cup of Act II extreme butter popcorn.

Anyone know why this might be. Why popcorn satisfies so quickly?

Fiber. And, if you've been eating low carb, your body doesn't really want it's glycogen stores to be depleted, so it will drive you to crave carbs until you refill your glycogen reserves. Also, it just tastes good. And your brain will drive you crazy until you eat what you're really craving (many of the people who advocate extreme diets will deny this, but they only accept things that go along with their world view, sooo......)

Retroguy2000

There is a transfer effect going on. People who exercise tend towards healthier diets. It may be a mostly psychological thing, related to goal setting and recognition that both exercise and diet lead to the same goal, so progress in one of those can lead to progress in the other. Conversely, if you skip a workout, you might feel bad, and might lead to worse diet choices that day.

springlering62

If popcorn is your thing, try a silicone microwave popcorn popper off Amazon.

They’re only about $10-15, pop corn quickly with no oil, 99.5% of the kernels pop, and the popcorn has the nicest “corntest” taste, and you simply rinse it out.

I’ve sworn by my hot air popper for years, but it can’t touch this thing.

49gr Orville Redenbacher is 130 calories and fills a medium sized mixing bowl.

Also, somebody here on MFP put me on to popcorn with soy sauce. I mix 1 part butter or margarine with 3 parts soy. It’s delicious and comparatively low cal.

Or a little melted margarine or butter and truffle salt is next level.

PAV8888

Frankly, from my point of view, I don't look gift horses in the mouth, or at least not too closely.

So popcorn satiates me at this point of time. **Kitten** awesome 👍

I might play with some of the lighter popcorn (personally I do like Orville's 94% or whatever smartpop variety). I might play with the suggestion above to try an alternate popper! In fact someone could lightly subsidise their European vacation chocolate habit by putting a link to their Amazon popper since I'm about to go get one to try!😛

But, beyond one or two tweek attempts along the lines of trying slightly lower Cal options and beyond making sure my entry was correct (i.e. weight of bag before popping for the initial logged entry and then edit the entry to subtract the weight of the packaging and unpopped corn when done eating).... If popcorn is satiating for the calories and if I'm still getting my nutrition minimums (protein for example).... then I'm eating popcorn!

Yeah 🍿 popcorn!😎

And if exercise early in the morning works for me.... guess what😛

That's what I, at least, am talking about when I say we each have to experiment and discover more and more things that work for us as individuals and that we can layer one on top of another till we gradually move away from the daily life and conditions that promoted our past weight and on to a daily life and conditions that promote achieving and maintaining our new weight! 🤔😎

From your general discussion I would also look at the current size of your deficit. Consider that consistently applied more manageable deficits may be more effective than shooting for huge deficits but increasing the risk of reactionary extreme overeating. The goal is not move the most you can while eating the least you can. The goal is to get into sustainable grooves that will move you from A to B over time and then keep you at B indefinitely 🤔

springlering62

You made me snort right out loud.

Here ya go:

https://a.co/d/3867YFK

The 5-pound containers of Redenbacher are a great deal.

totameafox

Maybe you need to change how many times you eat through out the day. If you are very hungry by dinner and have a tendency to overeat. Then have a snack in between meals. I can't really work out anymore but back in 2008 when I was capable of walking a mile and a half every morning I would get a workout high. I would have loads of energy even though I just spent the energy. I could definitely go longer without eating if I had gone for a walk.

You can also look at what kind of food you are eating and go for lower calorie, more voluminous food. I can make a 400 calorie salad that will take me over an hour to eat. In fact the first day of this weight-loss journey I decide to make 2 salads. I didn't even get to 1200 calories that day because I simply couldn't eat that much. I would look into this if you tend to over eat. My boyfriend says he couldn't do what I do there is too much food.

Don't get too stressed over things. You'll find your stride.

https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/group/147555-speak-friend-and-enter

PAV8888

hmm... thank you. for delivery time (tomorrow vs 9 days) I picked up a different one that looks very similar. Now I gather I will have to get the "plain" kernels too I guess I can always use frozen corn if I am really desperate!!!! but sorry for the side-bar. TBH I don't find popcorn super filling myself. BUT, it does hit my snack and something to chew on / occupy me for a while spot and that's useful by itself.

AnnPT77

Personally, I found it very effective just to put an ounce of plain popcorn kernels in a good-sized microwave-safe casserole dish with a lid (such as Pyrex tempered glass), then microwave on high until the popping slows down to a near stop. Quite complete popping, IME. I don't have anything against fancier microwave poppers, but I don't eat popcorn enough to make a special popper worthwhile.

I don't put oil on my popcorn, and don't need to add any to make the above method work fine. I do like salt, though, and it doesn't stick well without oil IME. Somewhere I read about then tried putting just a tiny bit of water in that microwave-safe dish, like a tablespoon or so - just enough to almost cover a single layer of kernels. Put in the water first, then mix in a reasonable portion of salt until it dissolves, finally add the kernels and microwave them. Result: Decent salted popcorn, no oil.

As far as satiation: I think it's quite individual. Therefore, it's wonderful, @tmoneyag99, that you're figuring out what helps you feel full, and what spikes your appetite. That's powerfully useful information - a stepping stone toward success!

I'd also underscore what PAV said up there: If you have a large calorie deficit in your plan, like more than 0.5-1% of current body weight weekly, I'd suggest considering slowing the bus down. Even the top end of that range is aggressive unless severely obese and under close medical supervision for deficiencies or complications.

Losing a meaningful total amount of weight takes weeks to months, maybe even a small number of years if seriously obese. It helps to have a calorie goal one can stick with relatively easily, rather than one that requires white-knuckled willpower. A slow loss rate can potentially get a person to goal weight in less calendar time than an aggressive rate that causes deprivation-triggered over-eating, breaks in the action, or even giving up altogether.

As a bonus, that gradual process is more likely to uncover the habits it will take to successfully maintain a lower weight long term, and give us time to practice those habits until they can run almost on autopilot. That'll come in handy later, when other parts of life get challenging or distracting . . . as eventually they will.

Best wishes!