Is the Nasty sweet stuff being manipulated

I told my buddy that the processed stuff we bought in the past it being manipulated. He said "it don't surprise me they did that to cigarettes to get us all hooked then denied they were doiing it " . He thinks those big ciqarette chiefs should have been up on perjury charges.

I read this on another thread

The big players in the U.S. food industry have certainly acted like the tobacco pushers as they have deployed an incredible array of scientific and marketing research designed to get people to eat more, often at the obvious expense of their health. In his book, "Salt Sugar Fat: How the Food Giants Hooked Us," journalist Michael Moss offers a damning portrait of food companies that have entire research wings dedicated to creating the ideal "bliss point" so that brain receptors crave a food without ever triggering a sense of being satiated. More often than not, adding sweetness has been the easiest way to fool the brain, resulting in products like Yoplait yogurt, which tries to project a healthy image but, as Moss notes, has twice as much real sugar per serving as Lucky Charms cereal - the poster child for an unhealthy breakfast when I was growing up. - See more at: http://mcalesternews.com/features/x1253343348/How-America-is-exporting-its-obesity-epidemic#sthash.Eg71H0w3.dpuf
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  • QuilterInVA
    QuilterInVA Posts: 672 Member
    The food manufacturers research until they find the "sweet spot" - just the right combination of sugar, salt and fat to keep you eating even though you have already had a serving and maybe are feeling full. It isn't just the sweet stuff, salty stuff, fatty stuff (peanut butter has sugar added) and all the processed foods are affected. I eat nothing that is processed. It's junk. If you don't believe me, look around and you'll see tons of overweight people eating and drinking junk.
  • Mokey41
    Mokey41 Posts: 5,769 Member
    Oh, oh, you and Minnie, a match made in heaven!
  • silken555
    silken555 Posts: 478 Member
    The food manufacturers research until they find the "sweet spot" - just the right combination of sugar, salt and fat to keep you eating even though you have already had a serving and maybe are feeling full. It isn't just the sweet stuff, salty stuff, fatty stuff (peanut butter has sugar added) and all the processed foods are affected. I eat nothing that is processed. It's junk. If you don't believe me, look around and you'll see tons of overweight people eating and drinking junk.

    Plenty of skinny people eat 'junk' too...geez.
  • theoriginaljayne
    theoriginaljayne Posts: 559 Member
    Aha! Another way I can blame someone other than myself for my poor life choices!
  • KateK8LoseW8
    KateK8LoseW8 Posts: 824 Member
    The food manufacturers research until they find the "sweet spot" - just the right combination of sugar, salt and fat to keep you eating even though you have already had a serving and maybe are feeling full. It isn't just the sweet stuff, salty stuff, fatty stuff (peanut butter has sugar added) and all the processed foods are affected. I eat nothing that is processed. It's junk. If you don't believe me, look around and you'll see tons of overweight people eating and drinking junk.

    Plenty of skinny people eat 'junk' too...geez.

    Seriously, my boyfriend eats crap the 75% of the week he's at his house and not mine. I think I'm his only source of vegetables. He's a skinny dude.
  • ILiftHeavyAcrylics
    ILiftHeavyAcrylics Posts: 27,732 Member
    I continue to be surprised that people continue to be surprised that the food industry does its best to make as much money as possible.

    ETA: also I eat a combination of "whole" and processed foods. So far it's working fine for me. Balance is important.
  • tigersword
    tigersword Posts: 8,059 Member
    The food manufacturers research until they find the "sweet spot" - just the right combination of sugar, salt and fat to keep you eating even though you have already had a serving and maybe are feeling full. It isn't just the sweet stuff, salty stuff, fatty stuff (peanut butter has sugar added) and all the processed foods are affected. I eat nothing that is processed. It's junk. If you don't believe me, look around and you'll see tons of overweight people eating and drinking junk.

    Plenty of skinny people eat 'junk' too...geez.
    And plenty of obese people eat non-junk.
  • Alluminati
    Alluminati Posts: 6,208 Member
    Oh, oh, you and Minnie, a match made in heaven!

    Yep. Either Minnie will comment in this thread later or vice versa on Minnie's. Interesting cause I looked and they ain't even friends yet have so much in common :laugh:
  • silken555
    silken555 Posts: 478 Member
    The food manufacturers research until they find the "sweet spot" - just the right combination of sugar, salt and fat to keep you eating even though you have already had a serving and maybe are feeling full. It isn't just the sweet stuff, salty stuff, fatty stuff (peanut butter has sugar added) and all the processed foods are affected. I eat nothing that is processed. It's junk. If you don't believe me, look around and you'll see tons of overweight people eating and drinking junk.

    Plenty of skinny people eat 'junk' too...geez.

    Seriously, my boyfriend eats crap the 75% of the week he's at his house and not mine. I think I'm his only source of vegetables. He's a skinny dude.

    I just don't get the need to vilify food or blame others for ones excess weight.

    It's simple, eat too much of anything and you'll gain weight.
  • silken555
    silken555 Posts: 478 Member
    The food manufacturers research until they find the "sweet spot" - just the right combination of sugar, salt and fat to keep you eating even though you have already had a serving and maybe are feeling full. It isn't just the sweet stuff, salty stuff, fatty stuff (peanut butter has sugar added) and all the processed foods are affected. I eat nothing that is processed. It's junk. If you don't believe me, look around and you'll see tons of overweight people eating and drinking junk.

    Plenty of skinny people eat 'junk' too...geez.
    And plenty of obese people eat non-junk.

    Very true as well!
  • ArroganceInStep
    ArroganceInStep Posts: 6,239 Member
    entire research wings dedicated to creating the ideal "bliss point" so that brain receptors crave a food without ever triggering a sense of being satiated. More often than not, adding sweetness has been the easiest way to fool the brain

    You know what that means in lay terms? They made food that tastes good.
  • Mokey41
    Mokey41 Posts: 5,769 Member
    Oh, oh, you and Minnie, a match made in heaven!

    Yep. Either Minnie will comment in this thread later or vice versa on Minnie's. Interesting cause I looked and they ain't even friends yet have so much in common :laugh:

    Minnie accused me of having multiple accounts, now I'm wondering.......
  • ILiftHeavyAcrylics
    ILiftHeavyAcrylics Posts: 27,732 Member
    The food manufacturers research until they find the "sweet spot" - just the right combination of sugar, salt and fat to keep you eating even though you have already had a serving and maybe are feeling full. It isn't just the sweet stuff, salty stuff, fatty stuff (peanut butter has sugar added) and all the processed foods are affected. I eat nothing that is processed. It's junk. If you don't believe me, look around and you'll see tons of overweight people eating and drinking junk.

    Plenty of skinny people eat 'junk' too...geez.

    Seriously, my boyfriend eats crap the 75% of the week he's at his house and not mine. I think I'm his only source of vegetables. He's a skinny dude.

    I just don't get the need to vilify food or blame others for ones excess weight.

    It's simple, eat too much of anything and you'll gain weight.

    QFT
  • Sabine_Stroehm
    Sabine_Stroehm Posts: 19,263 Member
    They're in cahoots with "the colonel". They put an addictive chemical in things to make you crave them fortnightly!:smile::wink:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPMS6tGOACo

    Sorry, couldn't resist. :flowerforyou: But yes, they make it as appealing as possible, and yes, it's probably not getting healthier when they tweak things.
    :smile:

    We decide what we eat and when. Not always easy, but that's reality.
  • jofjltncb6
    jofjltncb6 Posts: 34,415 Member
    Because one thread today about this wasn't enough?
  • MilliDenney
    MilliDenney Posts: 45 Member
    I don't know if the sweet stuff is manipulated, but many things are so it wouldn't surprise me.

    I have always had a problem with sugar. The more I eat the more I want.

    However, I have been doing the Peer Trainer diet, which promoted Xylitol, which is supposed (and this it does) gives you the sweet taste, but does not trigger the cravings for more afterwards. It has half the calories of sugar, doesn't threaten your teeth and tastes very good. You can even bake with it, and when you use it in drinks like tea or coffe, there is no artificial flavor, at least not for me.

    It also seems to give your brain a signal you do not want more of it. It may all be suggestion, I really don't know, the only thing I know is that it works really well for me.

    About Stevia, that doesn't do the trick for me, not at all. And I am past the aspertame period, I do not do that anymore since I have read so many bad things about that.
  • Alluminati
    Alluminati Posts: 6,208 Member
    Oh, oh, you and Minnie, a match made in heaven!

    Yep. Either Minnie will comment in this thread later or vice versa on Minnie's. Interesting cause I looked and they ain't even friends yet have so much in common :laugh:

    Minnie accused me of having multiple accounts, now I'm wondering.......

    :smokin:
  • AllonsYtotheTardis
    AllonsYtotheTardis Posts: 16,947 Member
    Because one thread today about this wasn't enough?

    well, Minnie didn't get the response she wanted with the other post, so she's trying again with her sock puppet account, duh!
  • jofjltncb6
    jofjltncb6 Posts: 34,415 Member
    Because one thread today about this wasn't enough?

    well, Minnie didn't get the response she wanted with the other post, so she's trying again with her sock puppet account, duh!

    I hope she's using a proxy for at least one of them. MFP PTB don't take too kindly to dupe accounts used for forum shenanigans.
  • BrainyBurro
    BrainyBurro Posts: 6,129 Member
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  • ZombieEarhart
    ZombieEarhart Posts: 320 Member
    I don't really understand why we're supposed to be outraged that companies selling food try to make it taste really good. Unless they are putting misinformation on nutrition labels, I'm not sure what we're surprised by here :/
  • whierd
    whierd Posts: 14,025 Member
    Breaking News: Companies Exist To Make Money! More at 11!
  • ktsimons
    ktsimons Posts: 294 Member
    I don't really understand why we're supposed to be outraged that companies selling food try to make it taste really good. Unless they are putting misinformation on nutrition labels, I'm not sure what we're surprised by here :/

    Excellent point. If YOU don't want to eat the junk, don't eat it. I don't eat it, personally, but mostly because wheat makes me pooty and there isn't much junk without it...

    Stop trying to "legislate" other peoples choices of food Bloombergers....
  • PikaKnight
    PikaKnight Posts: 34,971 Member
    Oh, oh, you and Minnie, a match made in heaven!

    Yep. Either Minnie will comment in this thread later or vice versa on Minnie's. Interesting cause I looked and they ain't even friends yet have so much in common :laugh:

    Minnie accused me of having multiple accounts, now I'm wondering.......

    :smokin:

    Oh yeah. She accused me of being you. Wazzuuuupppppppppp :laugh:
  • Cranquistador
    Cranquistador Posts: 39,744 Member
    hi minnie
  • AllonsYtotheTardis
    AllonsYtotheTardis Posts: 16,947 Member
    Oh, oh, you and Minnie, a match made in heaven!

    Yep. Either Minnie will comment in this thread later or vice versa on Minnie's. Interesting cause I looked and they ain't even friends yet have so much in common :laugh:

    Minnie accused me of having multiple accounts, now I'm wondering.......

    :smokin:

    Oh yeah. She accused me of being you. Wazzuuuupppppppppp :laugh:

    that's ridiculous - you two look nothing alike.
  • kimtab
    kimtab Posts: 64 Member
    Ain't nobody holding you down and stuffing donuts in your mouth. Put on your tinfoil hat and worry about a real problem, like Obamacare death panels or Google reading your email.
  • Lichent
    Lichent Posts: 157 Member
    These are people who are trying to lose weight and trying to get healthy and they arguing against good sense , good advice, science and all the other that my doc talks about, my trainer talks about my nutriionists talks about. ?????

    I think some people here don''t hey want to lose wieght or get healthy they just want to whine

    Do food industries pay these guys to post here. Constantly nagging and complaining when someone posts some info that is sensible, the same stuff my doc, my trainer and nutrienist are telling us.

    My buddy who is an exsmoker says this is like joining a quit smoking board and each time someone posts something about bad about he ciiqarette industry then its denial !!!! They show up to jump all over the poster. If it was a quit smoking board you could assume they were all in the closet lighting up.
    He says they just aren't ready to give up on their bad habits.

    I know the food industry pays millions to advertise their junk on tv are they trolling the message boards like a bunch of shills trolling out good info, thinking that just cuz I am fat and not so educated they can bamboozle me. Once upon time they might have been able to but not any more.

    I read this stuff and it makes sense. The shills on this board do not!!
  • ILiftHeavyAcrylics
    ILiftHeavyAcrylics Posts: 27,732 Member
    :laugh:

    Yup, we're just a bunch of whiners. It couldn't be that we actually have managed to reach and exceed our goals without demonizing any specific type of food. We must be shills because anything else doesn't fit your world view.
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    Fox news alert - companies putting additives into food to make it taste better....

    LOL would you buy something if it tasted like crap???????????

    and companies did not make you fat, over eating made you fat....

    yet, another "blame the obesity on companies" thread....

    It must be nice to live in a fantasy world where you have zero percent responsibility for the actions that you partake as an individual ...