Just not losing

Jennical

Helpful thread. Thanks

sarah_lou22

muscle weighs more than fat.

No, not this either. Where is all the broscience coming from today?

This True. My dad biochemist

Your dad is a biochemist. You are not.
You also don't seem to understand the concept of weight. 1lb is 1lb. Doesn't matter if it is fat, muscle, feathers, or lead.
Now, if the OP had said she is not losing weight, but her clothes are loser, then you could have said "Muscle is denser than fat, so when you lose a lb of fat, and add on a lb of muscle at the same time, you weight the same, but are now smaller"...but that is not what she said.

i not able to be biochemist because only 14! do you know 14 biochemist idiot

how many 14 yo do I know that have full beards... none.

sullus

muscle weighs more than fat.

No, not this either. Where is all the broscience coming from today?

This True. My dad biochemist

Your dad is a biochemist. You are not.
You also don't seem to understand the concept of weight. 1lb is 1lb. Doesn't matter if it is fat, muscle, feathers, or lead.
Now, if the OP had said she is not losing weight, but her clothes are loser, then you could have said "Muscle is denser than fat, so when you lose a lb of fat, and add on a lb of muscle at the same time, you weight the same, but are now smaller"...but that is not what she said.

i not able to be biochemist because only 14! do you know 14 biochemist idiot

how many 14 yo do I know that have full beards... none.

if you think that me you think i am ugly *kitten*. my father not letting me put picture of myself on world to see

So why'd you choose a pic with such an ugly kid in it, idiot?

salladeve

Forget losing pounds for a second... are you tracking your progress in other ways? Measurements, how clothes fit, progress photos?

Because you can entirely change your body without dropping one ounce. You might want to do more strength training than 30 Day Shred, though. It's an ok place to start if you're new to exercise, but it might not be enough of a challenge if you're in decent shape.

This is awesome, I love how your pictures show what lifting weights can do for your apperance. It is NOT all about the number. You look great BTW

Holly_Roman_Empire

I lost 25 pounds eating pizza and ice cream. Weight loss has nothing to do with the type of food you're eating. Period.

trust me it does! hence why people on raw high carb diets have to eat like 2000 calories minimum and will still lose weight

i lost 95 pounds in just under a year eating flaming hot cheetos, ice cream, french fires, and whatever else i wanted, as long as i maintained a deficit.

Aaaaand your legs look awesome. :-D

Why would anyone want to only eat 2000 calories of raw high carbs? That's a diet, not a lifestyle.

Holly_Roman_Empire

Don't worry, I drink loads of water. I just don't track it. But it's def. enough.
I think I might be a bit high in sodium but a lot of UK entries have incorrect data for sodium, so it's a bit meaningless tracking it. (it's been entered in g's despite being mg's).

I really appreciate all the advice. I hope my explanation of how I'm managing my calories makes sense. It does in my head...

So my plan of action:

Measure body fat and not worry so much about the number on the scale
Drop down to my weekday total one of the weekend days
More strength training

Sounds like a pretty good plan! :-D

ElliottTN

Also it is not just about calories but the quality of your finis choices proper meal combinations for your genetic makeup and good fat burning foods tonic and supplements. I agree with the last post instead of lowering your calories you must increase your body sculpting using Exercises specific for the strongest muscles in our bodies the glutes exercises just as the classic hip thrust

I lost 25 pounds eating pizza and ice cream. Weight loss has nothing to do with the type of food you're eating. Period.

You are correct, weight loss does not have anything to do with the type of food you are eating (to an extent)

But

Body composition does. Then we enter into the discussion of weight vs health but that's for a whole different thread.

questinc

I've been using Fitness Pal at 1200 and pretty much do similar activity to you with the exception that I weight train 3x a week and have been losing about 1-2 pounds a week. I think backing off on the calories might help you lose - sounds like you are at a plateu and need to "shock" your system! Your body is used to what you are doing so its not responding - time to kick it in the butt! Try and see if this helps - good luck!!

ElliottTN

Check your BMR. Your eating too much to lose. You need to run a sizable deficit. Also make sure your watching carbs -- sugar is the hidden problem child.

I would drop from 1500 to 1200-1300.

Also water..lots of it.

Just no. You don't take a deficit from your BMR and a 32 year old woman of her height should not be eating 1200 calories.

you can most certainly take a deficit from your BMR, especially if you are inactive. I don't know why some people use BMR as the minimum number of calories that a person should eat. That's just not what it means.

Should a person eat less than what it takes to keep them alive? If that's not what BMR is, then I must have a misunderstanding of it.

BMR is not the amount of *food* it takes to keep them alive. it's the number of *calories* your body burns in a day at rest. Your body gets calories from places other than food. Fat is a great example.

Hmm...I admit I've never thought of it that way. I get that there's no such thing as starvation mode, but the general thought on here is that eating less than BMR is not healthy. I'll have to think on this one...

This goes along with the notion that it is unhealthy to spend the rest of your life eating at deficit which you wouldn't be able to do if you want your heart to keep beating. You can absolutely eat under BMR and be healthy with your weight loss as long as your diet is inline. Eating below BMR is a means to an end and not a way of life, you just really have to know when to pull the trigger and stop doing it.

kaylaknight4247

I would definitely not eat less, it seems like you're eating a good amount, and eating a bit more on the weekends is probably helping you boost your metabolism. I'd say you're right on track with that. Try more strength training, and switch up your activity type for cardio. The more strength training you do, the more it will shape your body and you'll also lose more fat while building muscle. You're already at a healthy weight, so I think focusing more on shaping your body rather than losing fat will get you to where you want to be, much more quickly. You'll likely shed a few pounds in the process as well. As you build more muscle, don't be afraid of the scale, and don't be afraid of adjusting your calories to match. It will be going to muscle and serving you nutrition as well.

I didn't check out your diary, but make sure you're eating as many natural foods as possible. I always try to get more raw foods into my diet as well -- raw fruits and veggies that will help keep your gut digesting all foods properly and your metabolism revved. It will also help you get more fiber in your diet, along with protein, it will speed your metabolism because it takes more energy to digest those two macronutrients. Plus, raw foods are more nutrient-dense which will help you lose weight in a really healthy way, while you're cutting back in calories for your current weight.

ElliottTN

Do a re-feeding weekend where you eat at maintenance. You will probably hold on to a little bit of weight the first couples days back in your deficit but then should be able to break through your plateau.

judychicken

Bump

PikaKnight

There's also the part where you may think you feel or look better at 135 lbs but is that a number you're remembering from your teen years. Sometimes you have to let go of your ideals of what you think would be a good weight based on the past. Our bodies change as we age, have kids, etc and not that you should be a frumpy mess but what was once ideal may not be anymore.

Instead of trying to diet off 14 lbs, get your BF% measured some place reputable and work on building muscle and lowering your body fat. It will reshape your body and probably provide you with what you're looking for rather than just losing pounds. 30DS is a fun little workout for 20 minutes but if you want to get serious about building a body you need to find something a bit more intense.

^This is the best advice out of this whole thread

PikaKnight

your body not burn calories if eat too much. instead eat one meal. turns out its fact idiot

Um, what? That's horrible advice. Also, don't drop your calories like the other poster said. Seriously, where is all of this stuff coming from?

OP, when was the last time you went over your TDEE estimates? You're supposed to update it after every 5 lbs lost. Have you done that recently? It may have changed. Your exercise may be different from the last time you calculated, or your weight, or your age (lol, if you had a birthday in between, I mean, haha).

Ignore him. He's a professional troll.

Nice. I like how he ends his sentence with Idiot. Not. Thanks for the heads up, lol. Sorry this derailed your thread a little, OP.

Okay, so you've redone your calculations. I think, if it were me, as a previous poster suggested, stop eating up to your TDEE on the weekends. Instead, take a cut from it... probably like 10% (or maybe even 15%, not sure how that would work for you). So if your TDEE is 2000, minus 10%, you'd be at 1800 calories. I would try that, if it were me. Just a suggestion Hope you find the answer to your troubles!

i am Croatia. idiot not mean bad in my language

that's a lie. :laugh:

GymTennis

It should be fairly simple... You HAVE to build a caloric deficit and exercise.. If you're not losing enough, reduce your intake for another 200 calories or so.. Also, make sure you log in absolutely everything you eat or drink during the day to hit your calories goal.. A lot of people don't count in things like orange juice, coffee with cream and sugar etc..Those hidden calories might preventing you from reaching your goals.. Make sure you're counting everything and drink a lot of water to flush out all the sodium which makes you feel bloated and soft, especially in your waist area.. Good luck

rml_16

You need glute and core specialization work to sculpt at least a 0.8 lower waist to hip ratio now good job on understanding that gaining tone and lean muscle mass is the key

So you're saying you can change your bone structure through weight training?

Holly_Roman_Empire

You need glute and core specialization work to sculpt at least a 0.8 lower waist to hip ratio now good job on understanding that gaining tone and lean muscle mass is the key

So you're saying you can change your bone structure through weight training?

Yeah, my thoughts exactly. I'm not sure a 0.8 ratio is what the OP is desirous of anyway.

rml_16

You need glute and core specialization work to sculpt at least a 0.8 lower waist to hip ratio now good job on understanding that gaining tone and lean muscle mass is the key

So you're saying you can change your bone structure through weight training?

Yeah, my thoughts exactly. I'm not sure a 0.8 ratio is what the OP is desirous of anyway.

I didn't see anywhere she said so.

I have a suspicion that poster is a troll, anyway, based on some other posts. And I suspect he/she has more than one account.

Holly_Roman_Empire

Also it is not just about calories but the quality of your finis choices proper meal combinations for your genetic makeup and good fat burning foods tonic and supplements. I agree with the last post instead of lowering your calories you must increase your body sculpting using Exercises specific for the strongest muscles in our bodies the glutes exercises just as the classic hip thrust

I lost 25 pounds eating pizza and ice cream. Weight loss has nothing to do with the type of food you're eating. Period.

You are correct, weight loss does not have anything to do with the type of food you are eating (to an extent)

But

Body composition does. Then we enter into the discussion of weight vs health but that's for a whole different thread.

True this. :-)

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RGv2

Also it is not just about calories but the quality of your finis choices proper meal combinations for your genetic makeup and good fat burning foods tonic and supplements. I agree with the last post instead of lowering your calories you must increase your body sculpting using Exercises specific for the strongest muscles in our bodies the glutes exercises just as the classic hip thrust

I lost 25 pounds eating pizza and ice cream. Weight loss has nothing to do with the type of food you're eating. Period.

You are correct, weight loss does not have anything to do with the type of food you are eating (to an extent)

But

Body composition does. Then we enter into the discussion of weight vs health but that's for a whole different thread.

True this. :-)

Highly debatable

^^Agreed

ElliottTN

Also it is not just about calories but the quality of your finis choices proper meal combinations for your genetic makeup and good fat burning foods tonic and supplements. I agree with the last post instead of lowering your calories you must increase your body sculpting using Exercises specific for the strongest muscles in our bodies the glutes exercises just as the classic hip thrust

I lost 25 pounds eating pizza and ice cream. Weight loss has nothing to do with the type of food you're eating. Period.

You are correct, weight loss does not have anything to do with the type of food you are eating (to an extent)

But

Body composition does. Then we enter into the discussion of weight vs health but that's for a whole different thread.

True this. :-)

Highly debatable

^^Agreed

That very interesting coming from people I consistently see in threads preaching about protein intake. Or in fact macros in general.

joshdann

That very interesting coming from people I consistently see in threads preaching about protein intake. Or in fact macros in general.

I think there's a big difference between macro content and "quality". Getting protein from whole, unprocessed, organic, certified GMO-free unicorn flank is no different from getting protein from a snickers bar... as long as you get the protein.

ElliottTN

That very interesting coming from people I consistently see in threads preaching about protein intake. Or in fact macros in general.

I think there's a big difference between macro content and "quality". Getting protein from whole, unprocessed, organic, certified GMO-free unicorn flank is no different from getting protein from a snickers bar... as long as you get the protein.

I don't think anyone is debating if one 1 gram of protein in a snickers bar is better than 1 gram in a protein shake, that is not what is being said. It is more geared to say that 1400 cals of crap food can absolutely net a weight loss but 1400 calories of a well balanced diet will net a completely different body composition than just cake and pizza 1400 cal diet.


For example, when your body is on the go it is going to need amino acids. Those are only going to come from 2 places, your food intake or your muscle. You choose but if you are eating a diet with low protein and there is nothing in your fuel tank to pull from.....well it's going to get it from its other source....and over time two people with the same 1400 diet at extreme ends like that are going to end up with a body composition drastically different.

joshdann

I think you're both saying the same thing to a certain extent. The remark I was commenting on (quoted above) was that the type of food you eat contributing to body composition is highly debatable, and to your response of surprise that people who preach macros are willing to debate that. At least the way I read it, they weren't saying that macros should be ignored. Instead that you can get your macros met in many different ways. You can meet them with "junk" or "processed" foods, and/or you can meet them with "clean" or "whole" foods. People often claim that eating clean is the only way to alter body composition for the better. I disagree with that idea, putting me in the same camp as those who said "highly debatable" above.

tigerblue

How do you track your exercise? Is it through MFP estimations or HRM estimations? Either way, you're eating almost all, if not all somedays, of your exercise calories back on your weekdays.

Along with that you are over by 700-800 calories three days in a row over the weekend just gone, which is killing your weekly deficit.

I have never had results eating back all of my exercise calories, I eat 50% or more if I'm hungry. Try doing this as you could be over estimating calorie burns, nothing that tracks your calories is 100% accurate.

But it shouldn't be killing my deficit. What I eat at weekends is my TDEE - which I calculate from a sedentary level, then add in only 'proper' exercise - like 30DS or my mega hill-y cycling. I don't log in all the walking and running up and downstairs I do day in, day out.

I know my calories burnt might not be entirely accurate, that's why I leave out the regular activity.

Does that make sense?

I am not sure why I feel compelled to comment, since I am still in the middle of trying to figure this out myself, but I recognized something that I believe has been a problem for me, and maybe you should think about it too, and perhaps avoid some problems.

First a bit of background: I lost 40 lbs using MFP recommendations for net calories. (I believe the first recommendation was 1320 plus exercise. By the time I finished it was 1200 plus exercise. Now before everyone freaks out, realize that I am naturally small framed and short, and when I finished losing, I had a BMI of about 20, which means I was really slim. My BMR is only around 1200 so I was not eating under my BMR for the most part!) I always ate most, if not all my exercise calories back. It took me 11 months, and for the most part my loss was pretty steady. Of course I lost more at first, and then it slowed toward the end.

Then I went to maintenance, and since I was scared of gaining, I decided to set my net goal at just below sedentary and keep logging exercise calories and eating them. The problem is, I am not really sedentary in my non-exercise life. I am probably at least moderately active on work days.

So this set me up to begin under eating. Which eventually caused me to supress my metabolism, and suddenly I was gaining when there was no logical reason.. I now am beginning to understand just how much I was undereating because of my BodyMedia. It tells me that on a normal work day, without exercise, I burn about 2100-2200 calories. But because my goal was set to net sedentery, I was eating probably 1500 total calories. Or less. And I was very active in my everyday life, plus I was running probably 18-20 miles a week. So of course, after about 1 year of actual dieting and then another year of under eating like that, my body had had enough.

I am telling you this so you can perhaps avoid this problem.

Of course, it could be that undereating is not the problem at all. Really, only time will tell, along with meticulous record keeping.

Go to the "In Place of a Road Map" group, and look for the posting about a spreadsheet that will help you calculate daily activity. There is a link to a dowloadable spreadsheet calculator. This can help you get on the right track with non-exercise activity as well as your exercise.

Best of luck.