can you stll lose belly fat and have carbs?
jigglyone
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so i am on my journey to be more lean and get rid of the spare tire i have for a belly lol. i wanted to know if its still ok to consume carbs because i have people say its a no no for belly fat and some say its fine. i love rice esp white but i don't have too much of it, just 1 cup. i am confused?!!
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Carbs do not cause fat. Calorie surpluses cause fat. Eat a calorie deficit and you will lose fat. Resistance traing and you will retain muscle.0
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OP:
Have you read this link that was provided for you the other day?
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1080242-a-guide-to-get-you-started-on-your-path-to-sexypants?page=1#posts-16625920
I can't remember if this one was provided in your other thread or not, but this one is a good read also...
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/833026-important-posts-to-read
But to answer your question, you can have carbs.0 -
You can't lose belly fat. You lose fat all over, where ever it wants to come off. Doesn't matter if you eat Twinkies or tofu, as long as you eat at a deficit you will lose weight. Burning off belly fat is a myth.0
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Yes. Eat the right carbs (not excessive) and at the same time do some exercise.0
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Of course.0
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I have found that since I cut out wheat (ever read the book, Wheat Belly?) and added sugar that I have lost a disproportionate share of abdominal fat. I used to just lose it all over when I was at a higher percentage of carbs. Now, I limit my carbs to 20% and still avoid the added sugar and wheat. I eat a bit of organic, sourdough rye and oatmeal almost every morning. Other than that, I get my carbs from veggies and fruits.
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Wheat belly has been dubunked and is ridiculous. He clearly misquoted and falsified the information presented. His referenced studies don't support his claims.
You're fine.0 -
I have found that since I cut out wheat (ever read the book, Wheat Belly?) and added sugar that I have lost a disproportionate share of abdominal fat. I used to just lose it all over when I was at a higher percentage of carbs. Now, I limit my carbs to 20% and still avoid the added sugar and wheat. I eat a bit of organic, sourdough rye and oatmeal almost every morning. Other than that, I get my carbs from veggies and fruits.
Wheat Belly is absolute nonsense. Your claims are equally ridiculous.
OP, do not listen to this person.0 -
I gain three pants sizes everytime I eat a bowl of cereal.
True story.0 -
Serious question- Do you have links to studies that have debunked this? I haven't read the book, but have heard of bit about it and it makes sense for some people. Would like to read some scientific studies that have proven it to be untrue, if that is the case. And did it debunk everything that was claimed, or just certain parts?Wheat belly has been dubunked and is ridiculous. He clearly misquoted and falsified the information presented. His referenced studies don't support his claims.
You're fine.0 -
uh calorie surplus is what puts on fat0
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The first place to gain fat, is the last place you'll lose it. In other words, if you're more likely to gain fat in your abdomen primarily, that means that it will be the last to go. There's no magic diet, pill, program, food, or drink that will make it magically disappear, short of surgery. There are exercises that can help tone and tighten, by gaining muscle in that area. I really like prone jackknife's since I have a tendency to pull on my neck with situps or crunches. Plus they really kick abs! You can google it.
I do a weight lifting book, which has be doing 3 sets of 10-15, about 2-3 times/week, plus crunches. However, all the crunches in the world aren't going to get you flat abs. Only weight loss, through diet and exercise. Sorry... 
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I have found that since I cut out wheat (ever read the book, Wheat Belly?) and added sugar that I have lost a disproportionate share of abdominal fat. I used to just lose it all over when I was at a higher percentage of carbs. Now, I limit my carbs to 20% and still avoid the added sugar and wheat. I eat a bit of organic, sourdough rye and oatmeal almost every morning. Other than that, I get my carbs from veggies and fruits.
Wheat Belly is absolute nonsense. Your claims are equally ridiculous.
OP, do not listen to this person.
Still your usual rudeness, I see.
What exactly is ridiculous about what I have said? I have lost a little less than six pounds in the last four months--yet I have gone down a size in jeans and the ones I am wearing right now are loose around the waist. You have posted nothing in support of your claims yet you feel free to insult those who have actual experience with what they claim. Tsk-tsk. For shame! 0 -
The first place to gain fat, is the last place you'll lose it. In other words, if you're more likely to gain fat in your abdomen primarily, that means that it will be the last to go. There's no magic diet, pill, program, food, or drink that will make it magically disappear, short of surgery. There are exercises that can help tone and tighten, by gaining muscle in that area. I really like prone jackknife's since I have a tendency to pull on my neck with situps or crunches. Plus they really kick abs! You can google it. I do a weight lifting book, which has be doing 3 sets of 10-15, about 2-3 times/week, plus crunches. However, all the crunches in the world aren't going to get you flat abs. Only weight loss, through diet and exercise. Sorry...
but will belly fat eventually go away without the need of surgery?0 -
The first place to gain fat, is the last place you'll lose it. In other words, if you're more likely to gain fat in your abdomen primarily, that means that it will be the last to go. There's no magic diet, pill, program, food, or drink that will make it magically disappear, short of surgery. There are exercises that can help tone and tighten, by gaining muscle in that area. I really like prone jackknife's since I have a tendency to pull on my neck with situps or crunches. Plus they really kick abs! You can google it. I do a weight lifting book, which has be doing 3 sets of 10-15, about 2-3 times/week, plus crunches. However, all the crunches in the world aren't going to get you flat abs. Only weight loss, through diet and exercise. Sorry...
but will belly fat eventually go away without the need of surgery?
If you get your body fat level down, it will go off your abdomen too. We are all genetically programed to gain body fat in certain areas--but even those areas will slim down when you drop the percentage of body fat.0 -
Carbs do not cause fat. Calorie surpluses cause fat. Eat a calorie deficit and you will lose fat. Resistance traing and you will retain muscle.
What he said.
OMG .. why is it that people have such screwed up ideas about carbs. Like honestly ?0 -
Carbs do not cause fat. Calorie surpluses cause fat. Eat a calorie deficit and you will lose fat. Resistance traing and you will retain muscle.
What he said.
OMG .. why is it that people have such screwed up ideas about carbs. Like honestly ?
Because many, many women have a difficult relationship with carbohydrates for many reasons. Men do not understand how a woman's hormones affect the gain or loss of body fat.0 -
I think that sugar is a far bigger issue than carbs. But what do I know anyways. Continue on ....0
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I think that sugar is a far bigger issue than carbs. But what do I know anyways. Continue on ....
Sugar is a carb.
But sugar is not an issue either, unless you're diabetic or have some other medical condition.0 -
Serious question- Do you have links to studies that have debunked this? I haven't read the book, but have heard of bit about it and it makes sense for some people. Would like to read some scientific studies that have proven it to be untrue, if that is the case. And did it debunk everything that was claimed, or just certain parts?Wheat belly has been dubunked and is ridiculous. He clearly misquoted and falsified the information presented. His referenced studies don't support his claims.
You're fine.
Just think about it for a minute. This whole low carb thing started just recently. There have been, and are, a lot of fit low bodyfat people who eat tons of carbs. Most people who are fit and low bodyfat eat lots of carbs. Pro athletes all eat tons of carbs; they couldn't perform if they didn't.0 -
I have found that since I cut out wheat (ever read the book, Wheat Belly?) and added sugar that I have lost a disproportionate share of abdominal fat. I used to just lose it all over when I was at a higher percentage of carbs. Now, I limit my carbs to 20% and still avoid the added sugar and wheat. I eat a bit of organic, sourdough rye and oatmeal almost every morning. Other than that, I get my carbs from veggies and fruits.
Wheat Belly is absolute nonsense. Your claims are equally ridiculous.
OP, do not listen to this person.
Still your usual rudeness, I see. What exactly is ridiculous about what I have said? I have lost a little less than six pounds in the last four months--yet I have gone down a size in jeans and the ones I am wearing right now are loose around the waist. You have posted nothing in support of your claims yet you feel free to insult those who have actual experience with what they claim. Tsk-tsk. For shame!
The ridiculous thing is that you have zero data. "Oh I lost weight, and my belly got smaller!" Oh. Well OK. Happens to the rest of us too. My abdomen skinfold went from 23mm to 9.5 mm while averaging something like 200+ g of carbs a day.
Besides, anecdotes are not data. The idea that carbs somehow contribute to belly fat is completely without any merit whatsoever.0 -
You can't target any particular area through diet or exercise. You just need to eat at a deficit and you will lose fat from all over your body, not just your stomach.
I personally love carbs, and fat and protein. I haven't had trouble losing weight, while eating anything I want, as long as I'm at a deficit. Carbs usually make up about 50% of my calorie intake.0 -
That whole "let's hate carb" mantra is ridiculous. Carbs are an important source of quick energy. I don't know very many people who can sustain a very low carbohydrate food plan for very long. Far more prudent to balance your macro nutrients at reasonable proportions and just eat at a calorie deficit.
Please don't tell my 102 pound body that I have to give up dark chocolate covered pretzels, spaghetti, and other delicious carbs that I eat in carefully measured quantities. Those things make life worth living.0 -
Step one... Stop arguing...
Step two... Read article by Lyle McDonald whom is an expert in the field of dieting. BTW... I'm sorry but women don't react carbs differently than men; they just tend to have slower metabolic rates. I find the sexism in this claim appalling. I am so appalled I am crying uncontrollably and don't know when I will stop... I very ultra extremely appalled... By this racism... Why be racist against men? We've done nothing wrong... But... A few things maybe.
http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/nutrition/carbohydrate-and-fat-controversies-part-1.html
Step three... Get a glass wine... Turn on some good tunes... Sit back... Let the good times roll.0 -
I have found that since I cut out wheat (ever read the book, Wheat Belly?) and added sugar that I have lost a disproportionate share of abdominal fat. I used to just lose it all over when I was at a higher percentage of carbs. Now, I limit my carbs to 20% and still avoid the added sugar and wheat. I eat a bit of organic, sourdough rye and oatmeal almost every morning. Other than that, I get my carbs from veggies and fruits.
Wheat Belly is absolute nonsense. Your claims are equally ridiculous.
OP, do not listen to this person.
Still your usual rudeness, I see. What exactly is ridiculous about what I have said? I have lost a little less than six pounds in the last four months--yet I have gone down a size in jeans and the ones I am wearing right now are loose around the waist. You have posted nothing in support of your claims yet you feel free to insult those who have actual experience with what they claim. Tsk-tsk. For shame!
The ridiculous thing is that you have zero data. "Oh I lost weight, and my belly got smaller!" Oh. Well OK. Happens to the rest of us too. My abdomen skinfold went from 23mm to 9.5 mm while averaging something like 200+ g of carbs a day.
Besides, anecdotes are not data. The idea that carbs somehow contribute to belly fat is completely without any merit whatsoever.
There's a LOT of scientific evidence that lowering excessively high blood sugar leads to loss of body fat (and almost every obese person has chronically elevated levels of blood sugar--duh, that's how they got fat!). Further, almost every obese woman has leptin resistance, and a lot of them have insulin resistance as well. The most effective way to lower both is to restrict carbohydrates. The medical community seems to be confused over the whole subject of carbohydrates. But, people are starting to share information on their weight loss and lots of "anecdotes" add up to the importance of restricting carbohydrates--particularly the "empty calorie" kind like sucrose and wheat starch.0 -
You can't target any particular area through diet or exercise. You just need to eat at a deficit and you will lose fat from all over your body, not just your stomach.
I personally love carbs, and fat and protein. I haven't had trouble losing weight, while eating anything I want, as long as I'm at a deficit. Carbs usually make up about 50% of my calorie intake.
I'm glad it's working out for you. It should be noted that you are 22 years old. Older individuals may have different weight loss parameters.0 -
You can't target any particular area through diet or exercise. You just need to eat at a deficit and you will lose fat from all over your body, not just your stomach.
I personally love carbs, and fat and protein. I haven't had trouble losing weight, while eating anything I want, as long as I'm at a deficit. Carbs usually make up about 50% of my calorie intake.
I'm glad it's working out for you. It should be noted that you are 22 years old. Older individuals may have different weight loss parameters.
Carbs don't suddenly make you start storing belly fat after you reach a certain age.0 -
Serious question- Do you have links to studies that have debunked this? I haven't read the book, but have heard of bit about it and it makes sense for some people. Would like to read some scientific studies that have proven it to be untrue, if that is the case. And did it debunk everything that was claimed, or just certain parts?Wheat belly has been dubunked and is ridiculous. He clearly misquoted and falsified the information presented. His referenced studies don't support his claims.
You're fine.
Just think about it for a minute. This whole low carb thing started just recently. There have been, and are, a lot of fit low bodyfat people who eat tons of carbs. Most people who are fit and low bodyfat eat lots of carbs. Pro athletes all eat tons of carbs; they couldn't perform if they didn't.
Not everyone has the ability to be a high performance athlete who can eat anything he/she wants and expect to stay slim and trim.0 -
Not everyone has the ability to be a high performance athlete who can eat anything he/she wants and expect to stay slim and trim.
Of course. People who aren't high performance athletes are the ones who store belly fat with carbs. Athletes don't. They're special snowflakes.0 -
You can't target any particular area through diet or exercise. You just need to eat at a deficit and you will lose fat from all over your body, not just your stomach.
I personally love carbs, and fat and protein. I haven't had trouble losing weight, while eating anything I want, as long as I'm at a deficit. Carbs usually make up about 50% of my calorie intake.
I'm glad it's working out for you. It should be noted that you are 22 years old. Older individuals may have different weight loss parameters.
Carbs don't suddenly make you start storing belly fat after you reach a certain age.
No, but it is a scientifically established fact that blood sugar levels start to climb as an individual ages (there are a number of reasons for this). The blood sugar levels that are "normal" now, would have been considered elevated when scientists first started collecting data on blood sugar back in the 1920s.0
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