Sugar

karent323
karent323 Posts: 4 Member
edited February 7 in Food and Nutrition
Sorry if this has been brought up over and over - this is my first day on the forum (been with MFP for ages though.
I tend to eat two to three pieces of fruit each day. I am losing weight doing this and stay within my calorie count. It's just that it takes me over my sugar limit for the day so any sugar that happens to be in my food takes me into the red. I have read that fructose is fine when eaten as part of whole fruit because of the fibre contained in the fruit.
Does anyone else hate being in the red with sugar even when you eat healthy food!
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  • megan_elizabeth8
    megan_elizabeth8 Posts: 216 Member
    I HATE being in the red for sugar, even though all my sugar is from dairy products, veggie s and a little fruit. Because I realised I can't be taking out healthy foods such as veggies to stay under in sugar, I made my sugar goal higher so that I can eat healthy foods and stay out of the red! ;)
  • beachlover317
    beachlover317 Posts: 2,848 Member
    If you are losing & you don't have problems with ingesting sugar at that level, why not go into the goals tab and change your sugar goal? Or you could discontinue tracking sugar on a daily basis.

    Fruit is good for you. As long as you are meeting your macros and calories, I wouldn't worry too much.
  • davert123
    davert123 Posts: 1,568 Member
    I am just trying to balance the major macros (Protein, fat, carb) and it is working fine for me. I love fruit a well and scof loads - but only after I get enough protein :-)
  • mockchoc
    mockchoc Posts: 6,573 Member
    If you are losing & you don't have problems with ingesting sugar at that level, why not go into the goals tab and change your sugar goal? Or you could discontinue tracking sugar on a daily basis.

    Fruit is good for you. As long as you are meeting your macros and calories, I wouldn't worry too much.

    Look at how much she lost. Listen to her..DO IT. Always listen to the people doing well.
  • davert123
    davert123 Posts: 1,568 Member
    PS macros.: I took this as a learning activity. My macros were crap when I started and I still lost weight. I worked out though by kind people educating me that my body does indeed work better if I eat enough of the right food. I then gradually changed my diet to hit the macros better. I did this over a month or so. If you go right ahead and balance from the start it would be good but just saying how I did it :-)
  • stt43
    stt43 Posts: 487
    Sugar doesn't matter. Don't worry about going over it if you are hitting your calorie goal.
  • tiffanysullivan52056
    tiffanysullivan52056 Posts: 1 Member
    Theres a couple of great books out on sugar which go into it in detail,( Think it sweet poison, has a donut on cover) but the upshot of it is that 2 pieces of fruit is maximum. See if you can switch your 3rd piece to a veg!

    Good Luck
  • DatMurse
    DatMurse Posts: 1,501 Member
    Theres a couple of great books out on sugar which go into it in detail,( Think it sweet poison, has a donut on cover) but the upshot of it is that 2 pieces of fruit is maximum. See if you can switch your 3rd piece to a veg!

    Good Luck
    just because its in a book doesnt mean its true.

    There is no practical evidence against sugar, only straw man conclusions drawn from studies
  • hookilau
    hookilau Posts: 3,134 Member
    Sugar doesn't matter. Don't worry about going over it if you are hitting your calorie goal.

    yeah, unless you're diabetic, pre-diabetic, have PCOS or are otherwise invisible (ie: don't count sugar because these conditions are very RARE :laugh: ) orrrrr you are trying to lose weight and having difficulty :blushing:

    People like to think sugar doesn't matter, but it does to an extent.

    My advice to you is to increase your physical activity to burn up whatever additional sugar you take in.
    If this doesn't produce the effect, (ie: weight loss) research further into the possibility of dysfunction.

    2 pieces of fruit in general does not sound excessive or like anything to 'do' something about, that is unless you fall into one of the 'invisible people' category listed above. :drinker:
  • stt43
    stt43 Posts: 487
    Sugar doesn't matter. Don't worry about going over it if you are hitting your calorie goal.

    yeah, unless you're diabetic, pre-diabetic, have PCOS or are otherwise invisible (ie: don't count sugar because these conditions are very RARE :laugh: ) orrrrr you are trying to lose weight and having difficulty :blushing:

    It seems unlikely that she has any of these conditions, and if you are having difficulty losing weight it's because of calories not sugar.
  • hookilau
    hookilau Posts: 3,134 Member
    Sugar doesn't matter. Don't worry about going over it if you are hitting your calorie goal.

    yeah, unless you're diabetic, pre-diabetic, have PCOS or are otherwise invisible (ie: don't count sugar because these conditions are very RARE :laugh: ) orrrrr you are trying to lose weight and having difficulty :blushing:

    It seems unlikely that she has any of these conditions, and if you are having difficulty losing weight it's because of calories not sugar.

    riiight, 'cause sugar doesn't have calories?
  • stt43
    stt43 Posts: 487
    Sugar doesn't matter. Don't worry about going over it if you are hitting your calorie goal.

    yeah, unless you're diabetic, pre-diabetic, have PCOS or are otherwise invisible (ie: don't count sugar because these conditions are very RARE :laugh: ) orrrrr you are trying to lose weight and having difficulty :blushing:

    It seems unlikely that she has any of these conditions, and if you are having difficulty losing weight it's because of calories not sugar.

    riiight, 'cause sugar doesn't have calories?

    It does, the same as all food...
  • hookilau
    hookilau Posts: 3,134 Member
    :huh: :laugh:
  • stt43
    stt43 Posts: 487
    :huh: :laugh:

    I don't really get your point. OP said that she is losing weight and inside her calorie count, but she is going over the "sugar limit" that MFP has. I was saying there is no need for a sugar limit as if you are inside your calories it doesn't make a difference. There is nothing special about sugar when it comes to losing weight. You can eat only sugar and lose weight, or you can eat no sugar and gain weight.
  • hookilau
    hookilau Posts: 3,134 Member
    :huh: :laugh:

    I don't really get your point. OP said that she is losing weight and inside her calorie count, but she is going over the "sugar limit" that MFP has. I was saying there is no need for a sugar limit as if you are inside your calories it doesn't make a difference. There is nothing special about sugar when it comes to losing weight. You can eat only sugar and lose weight, or you can eat no sugar and gain weight.

    As you were stating your point of view, I am stating mine.
    I disagreed. Politely I might add. It's a public forum & I can contribute in any manner I choose to while keeping within the rules.
    Not sure why you have a problem with someone who disagrees with you, but, carry on if you must I guess. Shrug.
  • stt43
    stt43 Posts: 487
    :huh: :laugh:

    I don't really get your point. OP said that she is losing weight and inside her calorie count, but she is going over the "sugar limit" that MFP has. I was saying there is no need for a sugar limit as if you are inside your calories it doesn't make a difference. There is nothing special about sugar when it comes to losing weight. You can eat only sugar and lose weight, or you can eat no sugar and gain weight.

    As you were stating your point of view, I am stating mine.
    I disagreed. Politely I might add. It's a public forum & I can contribute in any manner I choose to while keeping within the rules.
    Not sure why you have a problem with someone who disagrees with you, but, carry on if you must I guess. Shrug.

    Well I'm afraid that the effect of sugar on the body doesn't come down to 'point of view'...
    I'm not sure if you disagreed politely, but you disagreed sarcastically. I never said you can't contribute, I just don't understand what the point you are making is. I have no problem at all, and I'm sorry if my explanations have upset you somehow. You started by saying what I said was wrong, and I continued to reply.
  • hookilau
    hookilau Posts: 3,134 Member
    Well I'm afraid that the effect of sugar on the body doesn't come down to 'point of view'...

    I expect diabetics would disagree with you strongly.

    As far as your point of view, well...that's what the ignore button is for.

    I've said my piece and you've said yours.
    Shrug.
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  • stt43
    stt43 Posts: 487
    Well I'm afraid that the effect of sugar on the body doesn't come down to 'point of view'...

    I expect diabetics would disagree with you strongly.

    As far as your point of view, well...that's what the ignore button is for.

    I've said my piece and you've said yours.
    Shrug.
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    No, I'm pretty sure diabetics would also agree with me that the effect of sugar on the body doesn't come down to 'point of view'.
    I wasn't sharing my point of view, I was explaining that it's calories that will make you gain weight, not merely sugar. And as far as I'm aware there isn't an ignore button.
  • MrsBingley
    MrsBingley Posts: 145
    Th e sugar goal is ridiculously low, IMHO. If you don't have a medical reason to track it, I'd remove it and just track as part of overall carbs.

    This is assuming, of course, that you feel well and you aren't overly hungry with a reasonable deficit.

    Some people have had to manage their hunger by reducing sugar and/or carbs, at least for a while. I'm not one of those, but my mother is. She is a type two diabetic and sugar really stokes her appetite. She can only stick to a deficit if she cuts sugars. I'm sure she'll be re-adding them slowly once she wishes to maintain, assuming her blood work remains good.
  • melissalatzel24
    melissalatzel24 Posts: 26
    i choose to not view my sugar because i don't care!! i care more for protein, fibre, calcium and i can't remember what else..

    my sugar is already red with just 1 giant apple and its not nice to have to see red so early in the day hehe
    (you can choose what nutrients you see on your food diary in settings)
  • MrsBingley
    MrsBingley Posts: 145
    Well I'm afraid that the effect of sugar on the body doesn't come down to 'point of view'...

    I expect diabetics would disagree with you strongly.

    As far as your point of view, well...that's what the ignore button is for.

    I've said my piece and you've said yours.
    Shrug.
    tumblr_lh7p9f0HhZ1qz7a4co1_400.gif

    No, I'm pretty sure diabetics would also agree with me that the effect of sugar on the body doesn't come down to 'point of view'.
    I wasn't sharing my point of view, I was explaining that it's calories that will make you gain weight, not merely sugar. And as far as I'm aware there isn't an ignore button.

    Calories in/calories out always applies. That said, diabetics DO react differently to sugar (ALL sugar, including that synthesized by the body from fat of carbs). That's what a diabetic IS, someone who has a hard time metabolizing sugar, so it gets stuck in the blood. High blood sugar.
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    sugar is sugar...

    as long as you are staying under your calorie goal and eating in a deficit you will lose weight and you can eat sugar...

    this assumes no underlying medical issue..
  • themedalist
    themedalist Posts: 3,218 Member
    Theres a couple of great books out on sugar which go into it in detail,( Think it sweet poison, has a donut on cover) but the upshot of it is that 2 pieces of fruit is maximum. See if you can switch your 3rd piece to a veg!

    Good Luck
    just because its in a book doesnt mean its true.

    There is no practical evidence against sugar, only straw man conclusions drawn from studies

    This!

    "Nobody is overweight because they ate too much produce" -- harlanJen

    The sugar count in MFP is for added sugars, not fruits and veggies.

    I never paid much attention to sugar as long as I focused on nutritious food.
  • Bama56
    Bama56 Posts: 101 Member
    i dont even worry about natural sugars at all, as long as you are staying away from the added and refined sugars you will be fine. Like others said, overall calories and macros are more important.
  • BeachIron
    BeachIron Posts: 6,490 Member
    Do my 3 candy bars and bowl of ice cream today count?
  • Slrajr
    Slrajr Posts: 438 Member
    Do my 3 candy bars and bowl of ice cream today count?

    I'm not sure I understand what you mean by "count", but if you're wondering if those foods count as fruit, I think the answer is no. :flowerforyou:
  • BeachIron
    BeachIron Posts: 6,490 Member
    Do my 3 candy bars and bowl of ice cream today count?

    I'm not sure I understand what you mean by "count", but if you're wondering if those foods count as fruit, I think the answer is no. :flowerforyou:

    lolwut?
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    Do my 3 candy bars and bowl of ice cream today count?

    I'm not sure I understand what you mean by "count", but if you're wondering if those foods count as fruit, I think the answer is no. :flowerforyou:

    lolwut?

    dont you know bro ...candy sugar is bad, but fruit sugar is good....duh...!
  • BeachIron
    BeachIron Posts: 6,490 Member
    Do my 3 candy bars and bowl of ice cream today count?

    I'm not sure I understand what you mean by "count", but if you're wondering if those foods count as fruit, I think the answer is no. :flowerforyou:

    lolwut?

    dont you know bro ...candy sugar is bad, but fruit sugar is good....duh...!

    Yep. That's why we're all so fat.
  • Slrajr
    Slrajr Posts: 438 Member
    Do my 3 candy bars and bowl of ice cream today count?

    I'm not sure I understand what you mean by "count", but if you're wondering if those foods count as fruit, I think the answer is no. :flowerforyou:

    lolwut?

    dont you know bro ...candy sugar is bad, but fruit sugar is good....duh...!

    Yep. That's why we're all so fat.

    Well, if that's you in your avatar, you're not fat. Then the only explanation I can think of is that you must sprinkle Dr. Oz's whiskey flavoured keytones on your candy bars and ice cream to counteract the evil sugar effects.
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