Lifting Footwear

JoRocka

You yourself said- you can either accomplish the task or you can't.

you can either lift 500 lbs- or you can't.

jacksonpt

But what is the benefit to the body? The stance the shoes put you in allow you to put up higher numbers without actually growing stronger. You're putting up higher numbers, sure, but in the end your body isn't benefiting any more from it. In fact, it could be said the body benefits less from it. The shoes accomplish nothing other than allow you to pad your stats. Which is why I'm curious as to why they would even be a consideration for anyone other than a competing lifter, since they hold absolutely no benefit to anyone else.

You're either talking yourself in circles or you're talking me in circles...

If someone can squat 400lbs in only shoes, then progresses to 450, that's progress... the body is adapting and getting stronger. Same thing if they are doing it in chucks or barefoot or whatever else. You're still getting stronger. So what if one shoe puts more focus on 1 muscle group than another... maybe someone is doing GHRs for their posterior chain.

If you can squat 400 barefoot but 425 in oly shoes, then yes... that's not a true comparison because the muscles are stressed differently. But that's not really what this thread is about, and its an isolated comparison.

You're splitting a hair that about 2% of people care about.

All this talk about "better" or "worse" is stupid. You know what's better, at least in terms MFP? Getting people to bust their *kitten* in the gym. If they are more apt to do that in dress shoes, then they should be doing it in dress shoes. Intensity and consistency matter far more to the masses than does these smaller degrees of difference.

contingencyplan

You yourself said- you can either accomplish the task or you can't.

you can either lift 500 lbs- or you can't.

Although it's not quite to the same degree, IMO lifting shoes like that provide the same manner of "assistance" as a smith machine by removing stabilizer muscles (to some degree) from the equation. So if you need that "assistance" to lift 500 lbs, then you can't really lift 500 lbs.

Maybe it's just because I'm an all or nothing kind of person who's obsessed with efficiency and maximizing effectiveness, but really, if you're gonna use assistance, why bother with free weights at all? Maximizing output (in terms of benefit to your body) for minimal input will yield the best results, in pretty much anything. I just don't understand why you would want to work with assistance when you can get by without it.

But what is the benefit to the body? The stance the shoes put you in allow you to put up higher numbers without actually growing stronger. You're putting up higher numbers, sure, but in the end your body isn't benefiting any more from it. In fact, it could be said the body benefits less from it. The shoes accomplish nothing other than allow you to pad your stats. Which is why I'm curious as to why they would even be a consideration for anyone other than a competing lifter, since they hold absolutely no benefit to anyone else.

You're either talking yourself in circles or you're talking me in circles...

If someone can squat 400lbs in only shoes, then progresses to 450, that's progress... the body is adapting and getting stronger. Same thing if they are doing it in chucks or barefoot or whatever else. You're still getting stronger. So what if one shoe puts more focus on 1 muscle group than another... maybe someone is doing GHRs for their posterior chain.

If you can squat 400 barefoot but 425 in oly shoes, then yes... that's not a true comparison because the muscles are stressed differently. But that's not really what this thread is about, and its an isolated comparison.

You're splitting a hair that about 2% of people care about.

All this talk about "better" or "worse" is stupid. You know what's better, at least in terms MFP? Getting people to bust their *kitten* in the gym. If they are more apt to do that in dress shoes, then they should be doing it in dress shoes. Intensity and consistency matter far more to the masses than does these smaller degrees of difference.

I can agree with that, I just don't understand why people wouldn't want to get maximum benefit from minimal effort. And based on what I can see, working with lifting shoes means having to incorporate a greater focus on otherwise potentially unnecessary accessory work to compensate for the fact that glutes and hams are not being worked as much.

christianteach

I lift in bright pink chuck taylors. They make me happy.

Mine are purple-ish pink. Benefit of Chucks is you can wear them casually too if you want.

Mine are hot pink and black.

Hadabetter

I lift in bright pink chuck taylors. They make me happy.

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CyberEd312

I lift in Vibram Komodosports LS