Clean Eating Clarification

Hello! A friend and I have decided to give Clean Eating (or maybe I should say "Fresh" Eating) a try for 30 days. I am on Day 5 and so far I think I have been doing pretty good. I have not eaten anything from a box or bag! Lots of fresh fruit and veggies and all my meat I have purchased at our local butcher. I am not eating all organic (please don't judge me on that. I still believe fresh is still a good option). My confusion is on diary. I thought I had to buy whole fat cheese since that's the most natural but a lot of sites on Clean Eating show nonfat diary or reduced fat dairy? So which should I be eating?? Also I saw another site that recommened eating strawberries with Cool Whip? I thought Cool Whip was processed? I also need guidance on bread. I know it needs to be Whole Wheat. Anything else I need to look for? Any tips on what to look for or stay away from would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!
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  • Achrya
    Achrya Posts: 16,913 Member
    In, to also receive clarification.
  • Lizzard_77
    Lizzard_77 Posts: 232 Member
    Full fat dairy from grass fed/grass finished cows and preferably unpasteurized/raw is the best. As far as breads go, if you are going to eat them, then look for a sourdough or sprouted as they will be easiest to digest. And absolutely non-GMO!!

    Good for you deciding to do this for your body!!! You will feel amazing at the end of the month :)
  • diannethegeek
    diannethegeek Posts: 14,776 Member
    I don't believe you will ever find a clear line on what is clean and what isn't. It seems to vary wildly between each clean eater.
  • da_bears10089
    da_bears10089 Posts: 1,791 Member
    IN to learn the definition of subjective matters.
  • delicious_cocktail
    delicious_cocktail Posts: 5,797 Member
    Anyone who judges you on not eating all organic is someone whose judgements you should ignore.

    Typically people who espouse "clean" eating are talking about preservatives.

    Non-fat/reduced fat, etc . . . it's not really part of "clean". I mean, let's be honest, cheese is cultured; that's not fresh.

    But arbitrarily cutting out food items won't help you be healthier either.

    There is no universal definition of clean eating. There is no (authoritative) handbook that says whole wheat bread = good and wheat/white bread = bad.
  • delicious_cocktail
    delicious_cocktail Posts: 5,797 Member
    Full fat dairy from grass fed/grass finished cows and preferably unpasteurized/raw is the best. As far as breads go, if you are going to eat them, then look for a sourdough or sprouted as they will be easiest to digest. And absolutely non-GMO!!

    Good for you deciding to do this for your body!!! You will feel amazing at the end of the month :)

    Unpasteurized?????????

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pasteurization

    No.
  • Holly_Roman_Empire
    Holly_Roman_Empire Posts: 4,440 Member
    In, to also receive clarification.

    Ditto.

    Normally I'd suggest using the forum search bar, but seeing as there's a million different definitions floating around, I think that would only confuse the OP.
  • Holly_Roman_Empire
    Holly_Roman_Empire Posts: 4,440 Member
    Full fat dairy from grass fed/grass finished cows and preferably unpasteurized/raw is the best. As far as breads go, if you are going to eat them, then look for a sourdough or sprouted as they will be easiest to digest. And absolutely non-GMO!!

    Good for you deciding to do this for your body!!! You will feel amazing at the end of the month :)

    Unpasteurized?! Do you milk a cow in your backyard?

    ETA: As a person working in agriculture, you would be hard-pressed to find anything truly GMO-free. And I mean anything.
  • jwdieter
    jwdieter Posts: 2,582 Member
    The only rule you have to follow is: anything you eat must have come from something that has been given a name, and you have to know that name.

    If you know the name the of the cow that produced the milk/cheese product, you're good to go.

    Vegetables are, of course, difficult. Because it takes a truly caring and attentive grower. But if it ain't difficult, it ain't worth it.
  • DavPul
    DavPul Posts: 61,406 Member
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  • delicious_cocktail
    delicious_cocktail Posts: 5,797 Member
    The only rule you have to follow is: anything you eat must have come from something that has been given a name, and you have to know that name.

    If you know the name the of the cow that produced the milk/cheese product, you're good to go.

    Vegetables are, of course, difficult. Because it takes a truly caring and attentive grower. But if it ain't difficult, it ain't worth it.

    lol

    "I call this garden delila, and I eat her fruit."
  • suziepoo1984
    suziepoo1984 Posts: 915 Member
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    Is that clean?
    And OP: Sorry, i have no useful information to give :flowerforyou:
  • Lizzard_77
    Lizzard_77 Posts: 232 Member
    Full fat dairy from grass fed/grass finished cows and preferably unpasteurized/raw is the best. As far as breads go, if you are going to eat them, then look for a sourdough or sprouted as they will be easiest to digest. And absolutely non-GMO!!

    Good for you deciding to do this for your body!!! You will feel amazing at the end of the month :)

    Unpasteurized?! Do you milk a cow in your backyard?

    Nope, there is a farm down the street from me where I buy my raw milk and grass fed/finished and pastured meats and cheeses. Raw milk, when purchased from a reputable source is full of fabulous enzymes that aid with digestion and inflammation. Many people who cannot digest pasteurized milk can digest raw milk. It may not be for every one but I believe in it and was simply responding with my feelings on "clean eating". As was mentioned, their are many definitions of that :)
  • cwolfman13
    cwolfman13 Posts: 41,865 Member
    Been trying to get clarification for over a year now...I mean apparently it's not good enough for me to meet all of my nutritional needs...if I eat something that comes in a package I'm a filthy individual and will surely die soon. I love how my preferred marinara sauce from Costco...

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    that consists of Italian plum tomatoes, olive oil, basil, and onions is somehow filthy...but if I were to buy all of those ingredients separately and throw them into a pot in my kitchen, it's magically "clean"

    Give me a break with the clean crap. Eat a balanced diet rich in nutrient dense foods including fruit and veg, lean proteins, healthy fats, and whole grains...and have some ice cream for desert with jelly beans on top and live a little...
  • KeViN_v2pt0
    KeViN_v2pt0 Posts: 375 Member
    In, to also receive clarification.

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  • Cranquistador
    Cranquistador Posts: 39,744 Member
    interesting.
  • kyleekay10
    kyleekay10 Posts: 1,812 Member
    The only rule you have to follow is: anything you eat must have come from something that has been given a name, and you have to know that name.

    If you know the name the of the cow that produced the milk/cheese product, you're good to go.

    Vegetables are, of course, difficult. Because it takes a truly caring and attentive grower. But if it ain't difficult, it ain't worth it.

    lol

    "I call this garden delila, and I eat her fruit."

    lol'd IRL
  • ThickMcRunFast
    ThickMcRunFast Posts: 22,511 Member
    The only rule you have to follow is: anything you eat must have come from something that has been given a name, and you have to know that name.

    If you know the name the of the cow that produced the milk/cheese product, you're good to go.

    Vegetables are, of course, difficult. Because it takes a truly caring and attentive grower. But if it ain't difficult, it ain't worth it.

    lol

    "I call this garden delila, and I eat her fruit."

    I put some of my home grown chard and kale in my scramble this morning. Wept the entire time. Oh Steve, Jeremy, Daphne...I'm so sorry!!!

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  • Lizzard_77
    Lizzard_77 Posts: 232 Member
    Been trying to get clarification for over a year now...I mean apparently it's not good enough for me to meat all of my nutritional needs...if I eat something that comes in a package I'm a filthy individual and will surely die soon. I love how my preferred marinara sauce from Costco...

    ...

    I am sorry you had that experience with folks! I think the point is to avoid processed foods such as HFCS, margarine, etc., ie "fake foods" I see it as a return to food food, not fast food or chemically derived "food" I think your pasta sauce looks lovely :)
  • WendyTerry420
    WendyTerry420 Posts: 13,274 Member
    Full fat dairy from grass fed/grass finished cows and preferably unpasteurized/raw is the best. As far as breads go, if you are going to eat them, then look for a sourdough or sprouted as they will be easiest to digest. And absolutely non-GMO!!

    Good for you deciding to do this for your body!!! You will feel amazing at the end of the month :)

    Unpasteurized?????????

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pasteurization

    No.

    Unpasteurized dairy is actually pretty awesome. I miss it, since my uncle no longer has his dairy farm.
  • da_bears10089
    da_bears10089 Posts: 1,791 Member
    The only rule you have to follow is: anything you eat must have come from something that has been given a name, and you have to know that name.

    If you know the name the of the cow that produced the milk/cheese product, you're good to go.

    Vegetables are, of course, difficult. Because it takes a truly caring and attentive grower. But if it ain't difficult, it ain't worth it.

    lol

    "I call this garden delila, and I eat her fruit."

    I put some of my home grown chard and kale in my scramble this morning. Wept the entire time. Oh Steve, Jeremy, Daphne...I'm so sorry!!!

    Dawson_Crying.gif

    this is the funniest thing i have read all day...
  • Holly_Roman_Empire
    Holly_Roman_Empire Posts: 4,440 Member
    OP, is a challenge this confusing really worth it? I don't know what I would do if I had to skip Thanksgiving dinner.
  • Holly_Roman_Empire
    Holly_Roman_Empire Posts: 4,440 Member
    Been trying to get clarification for over a year now...I mean apparently it's not good enough for me to meat all of my nutritional needs...if I eat something that comes in a package I'm a filthy individual and will surely die soon. I love how my preferred marinara sauce from Costco...

    ...

    I am sorry you had that experience with folks! I think the point is to avoid processed foods such as HFCS, margarine, etc., ie "fake foods" I see it as a return to food food, not fast food or chemically derived "food" I think your pasta sauce looks lovely :)

    But what really makes a food fake? Half the fruits in the produce section are hybrids of other fruits. The trees that grow oranges in Texas and Florida are grown from certified budwood, not seed. If people really knew what went into their food, organic or otherwise, they'd be shocked.
  • aakaakaak
    aakaakaak Posts: 1,240 Member
    On milk...

    It is unlawful to sell unpasteurized milk in the United States. Other countries do not always have such restrictions. This gives you slightly better access to "cleaner" milk, but increases your risk of disease. There are several localized dairies around the U.S. that will sell you low-pasteurized milk, that satisfies the legal requirement, but is grass fed, low carbon, Basically they get the milk up to the minimum required temperature and cool it as quick as they can. That's really the closest you can get to unpasteurized.

    The whole-fat, vs. non-fat issue has little to do with "clean" eating. Skim milk is created by taking non-homogenized milk, letting it settle, and litterally "skimming" the fat from the top of the milk. I don't see how on earth that would make a difference in eating "clean".

    Personally I'm not condoning eating clean or eating any other specific way. It's your own choice. I don't eat clean. I fugure everything we put into our bodies is a collection of chemicals, even carrots are essentially a container for beta-carotene and a bunch of other things. But that's just me. If you're cool with clean then go for it. If you don't lose weight on it then you were eating too much clean food. It shouldn't be considered a weight loss method.
  • Amitysk
    Amitysk Posts: 705 Member
    The only rule you have to follow is: anything you eat must have come from something that has been given a name, and you have to know that name.

    If you know the name the of the cow that produced the milk/cheese product, you're good to go.

    Vegetables are, of course, difficult. Because it takes a truly caring and attentive grower. But if it ain't difficult, it ain't worth it.

    oh... this made me LOL
  • jonnythan
    jonnythan Posts: 10,161 Member
    I thought I had to

    You don't "have to" do anything, especially not because some web site tells you to.

    Anyway, you are discovering that "clean eating" is a rather nebulous term and a lot of people who claim to "eat clean" eat a lot of things their own rhetoric would indicate is not "clean."
  • I didn't mean to start a debate with my questions. I have been fat for half of my life. I am just trying to improve the way I eat and hope that some of that pays off with a weight loss. I guess eating "fresh" is more of what I am going for. Fresh fruits, veggies, meats. Dishes that I prepare myself. Eating lowfat has not helped my situation. I know that "clean" to some people is no hormones and all organic. I am not interested in following those guidelines right now. So for those who eat "fresh", do you say yes or no to lowfat cheeses?
  • explosivedonut
    explosivedonut Posts: 419 Member

    Thank god we live in a country so privileged that people don't understand the dangers of things like "raw milk" and "no vaccinations." Seriously, we are really lucky we have to search for ways to potentially kill ourselves via preventable diseases.
  • twixlepennie
    twixlepennie Posts: 1,074 Member
    On milk...

    It is unlawful to sell unpasteurized milk in the United States. Other countries do not always have such restrictions. This gives you slightly better access to "cleaner" milk, but increases your risk of disease. There are several localized dairies around the U.S. that will sell you low-pasteurized milk, that satisfies the legal requirement, but is grass fed, low carbon, Basically they get the milk up to the minimum required temperature and cool it as quick as they can. That's really the closest you can get to unpasteurized.

    The whole-fat, vs. non-fat issue has little to do with "clean" eating. Skim milk is created by taking non-homogenized milk, letting it settle, and litterally "skimming" the fat from the top of the milk. I don't see how on earth that would make a difference in eating "clean".

    Personally I'm not condoning eating clean or eating any other specific way. It's your own choice. I don't eat clean. I fugure everything we put into our bodies is a collection of chemicals, even carrots are essentially a container for beta-carotene and a bunch of other things. But that's just me. If you're cool with clean then go for it. If you don't lose weight on it then you were eating too much clean food. It shouldn't be considered a weight loss method

    There's actually quite a few U.S. dairy farms that get around the law by selling cow 'shares'. I can 'buy' part of a cow from a local farm and get raw milk and technically it's not against the law. Local news even did a spot on them a while back and the reporter drank raw milk on tv lol. The majority of their milk goes to Horizon organic so it's a reputable and clean facility. Raw milk is out there, you just have to do some looking for it.