Should pre-workout snack be counted?

cfredz

EAT MOAR

skullshank

If she eats 45 cals then burns off 45 cals why should it be counted?

what if it was a pre-workout rack of ribs?

suziepoo1984

i am hoping you eat a LOT MORE rest of the day. And even i am interested in finding out about 45 calorie banana :explode:

nytrifisoul

If she eats 45 cals then burns off 45 cals why should it be counted?

what if it was a pre-workout rack of ribs?

lol.....I was tempted to mention pork belly

taiyola

:laugh:

Mother_Superior

Do some research and set a reasonable over all calorie level depending on your specific goal.

Get a food scale and weigh your food so you can get a more accurate picture of how many calories you're eating.

Log everything.

danasings

i am hoping you eat a LOT MORE rest of the day. And even i am interested in finding out about 45 calorie banana :explode:

Me, too. A medium-sized banana has @100-120 calories, so that 45 calorie banana must be...teeny. Teeny, tiny.

BANANA SHAMING!!!

rileamoyer

Remember that your body has to burn those banana calories ( or store them as fat).
Anything going in your mouth should be counted.

There is no free lunch!

This ^^^^^

paleojoe

you should have a weekly deficit of 3500 calories for every pound you want to lose.

Yes but there is a caveat... as you get leaner your deficit needs to be reduced. Studies show the body can only access 30 calories per pound of fat. So get your body fat %, figure out how much fat you are carrying and multiply by 30. That will give you a ballpark of an appropriate deficit to shoot for. I have the study somewhere on my computer... if you want to see it I will dig it up.

That said OP, judging by your pic, weight loss is not your goal. So to answer your initial question, yes count the banana...

prettyface55

Where did you find a 45 calorie banana?

Lol

nytrifisoul

Where did you find a 45 calorie banana?

dunnodunno

Yes. You should count everything that has calories.

bumblebreezy91

Everything counts! Everything gets logged!

magerum

That's a really small banana.

:grumble:

jonnythan

Judging by the picture, I'm not sure the OP should be trying to lose a single ounce and I'm concerned about the rest of his diet.

SideSteel

you should have a weekly deficit of 3500 calories for every pound you want to lose.

Yes but there is a caveat... as you get leaner your deficit needs to be reduced. Studies show the body can only access 30 calories per pound of fat. So get your body fat %, figure out how much fat you are carrying and multiply by 30. That will give you a ballpark of an appropriate deficit to shoot for. I have the study somewhere on my computer... if you want to see it I will dig it up.

That said OP, judging by your pic, weight loss is not your goal. So to answer your initial question, yes count the banana...

I don't mean to nitpick but I'd disagree that the theoretical transfer rate limit should indicate where you "should" set your deficit. I would suggest that if you are going to go by that paper (I believe you're referring to this one but please correct me if I'm wrong: A limit on the energy transfer rate from the human fat store in hypophagia: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15615615) you should instead treat it as a threshold at which exceeding said intake may result in LBM losses.

I'm only mentioning this because in some cases using the limits proposed by the above paper may set your deficit greater than what may be optimal for performance/adherence reasons.

It's certainly a fascinating idea though IMO.

FitterBody

Judging by the picture, I'm not sure the OP should be trying to lose a single ounce and I'm concerned about the rest of his diet.

+1

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FitterBody

Where did you find a 45 calorie banana?

Most Thai Bananas are not quite as small as the one above but are smaller than the "usual western banana - compare the one on the left to the usual western one on the right in the pic below) and would be nearer to the 45 cals quoted. These are commonly seen on the street here often hot on the grill, or deep fried in a wok, or drowned in coconut milk.



But there are hundreds of varieties here in Thailand, some limited to a particular region. As well as a huge variety of sizes, there are even a variety of different coloured bananas from yellow to red to black (no, not just very over-ripe). :laugh:

Thai Sweet Black Bananas:


See here for a few more picture examples
http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/load/banana/msg122047276277.html


ETA typos

andresconejo

Lol! i actually measure everything so it really is 45 cals cause i only eat 50 grams of a banana (1/2 banana) and no i'm not trying to loose weight, i'm actually on reverse dieting, i usually save calories for intense cravings at night

paleojoe

you should have a weekly deficit of 3500 calories for every pound you want to lose.

Yes but there is a caveat... as you get leaner your deficit needs to be reduced. Studies show the body can only access 30 calories per pound of fat. So get your body fat %, figure out how much fat you are carrying and multiply by 30. That will give you a ballpark of an appropriate deficit to shoot for. I have the study somewhere on my computer... if you want to see it I will dig it up.

That said OP, judging by your pic, weight loss is not your goal. So to answer your initial question, yes count the banana...

I don't mean to nitpick but I'd disagree that the theoretical transfer rate limit should indicate where you "should" set your deficit. I would suggest that if you are going to go by that paper (I believe you're referring to this one but please correct me if I'm wrong: A limit on the energy transfer rate from the human fat store in hypophagia: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15615615) you should instead treat it as a threshold at which exceeding said intake may result in LBM losses.

I'm only mentioning this because in some cases using the limits proposed by the above paper may set your deficit greater than what may be optimal for performance/adherence reasons.

It's certainly a fascinating idea though IMO.

Yes that's the paper. I agree 100%. It really is just a jumping off point to set a range. With everything, test and re-test. Thanks for bringing that up.