OKAY Now I am Pissed

BlackBeltLife

I know that we are supposed to wait....and wait.....and wait for results. I even wrote a blog about the law of compensation (A lot of work.....little pay). but 3.5 weeks at the exact same weight is really pissing me off. How the HELL do you keep motivation if you see nothing. I didn't think dropping 5lbs in 3 weeks would be that difficult (especially since I have a lot more than that to lose.) I get on scale this morning and I am up 1.4lbs insteaad of down 5 (Its not like I dropped 3 then gained 1.5....I just gained). I have watched calories, exercised (4-6 times a week) watched fat. Sodium a little high but come on. Sorry about the rant I am just REALLY PISSED

tmej1973

Could it possibly be that you are gaining muscle weight with the 4-6 times a week of exercise? Good luck to you and stick with it!

tesha30

sorry to hear about your dilemma! dont get overworked about it! if your stressed out.. your not going to lose. Stress prevents losing weight. Dont know exactly why but I learned that from the biggest loser. Maybe your gaining muscle! it will come off.. I promise! dont get discouraged.. just keep up what your doing. Drink water and consume less salt.

gabrielled

I'm in the same boat. Hang in there. I lost almost 50, gained back 15, and worked out for 10 days straight and have been under calories, and I GAINED, but then dropped, 2 pounds.

HaesMom

I know your pain, and while what I say is probably not going to make you feel better, it is possible that you have added some muscle, and that's why you haven't seen movement on the scale. It's a slow process and I hope you get the results you are seeking. Good Luck and Keep up the good work, it will pay off . . . eventually.

ladyofivy

I had a lengthy plateau like that for a while. It sucks. :frown:

How similar are your workouts every day (or however often you do them?) That seemed to be the trick for me. I had to do something drastically different with my workouts. I added High Intensity Interval Training (HIIT) to the mix, and even though I was burning less calories in a day, it kicked my metabolism back up again and I was losing again. Another time was when I finally started weight training. Another time I started using the treadmill instead of working out with the TV... or I increased my incline... another time I started doing Wii Fit Plus yoga daily, and another time I started doing Wii Just Dance.

(Not all of these were to get me out of a plateau, but you get the idea.)

Changing the routine often is important, to trick your body. Even if it means sacrificing calories every other day. (Don't necessarily stop doing what you love, just do it on alternating days.)

Best of luck!

steph6245

I understand. I weighed in this morning and the scale has not moved this week. I am down a total of 5 lbs. overall and am on week 3 of MFP and P90X. I was very discouraged (thanks to the scale!) but I had to remind myself...the clothes are more comfortable. My friends have reminded me I am building muscle. Are you seeing changes in your clothes and in yourself when you look in the mirror? I think scales should be illegal. LOL I am so tired and so sore today that it totally stinks! I am sure we will run into days when we feel like this, but we just have to push on!
Try to stay encouraged! Don't give up what you have accomplished so far! Best of luck to you!!

Suunflwr37

I am feeling the exact same way. It took me months to lose 10 pounds.. Then I stayed the same weight for 3 weeks and today I was up 3 pounds. It is sooooo frustrating! I'm trying to lose weight "normally" - and by this I mean that I'm not crazy about working out for hours a day and eating only salads - because I know that I can't do that forever. But I exercise, I watch what I eat - and 99% of it is healthy foods, and I'm counting calories. It's frustrating beyond belief.

I don't have any great advice or anything... but at least you know that you aren't alone.... Maybe someone will have some great tip that will help us through... because right now it's kind of hard for me to even care.

kintegra

I agree with ladyofivy - switch up your routine & freak your body out a bit about what the hell you are doing! :bigsmile:

Also - watch your sodium & start downing the water & flush it all out! Increasing your water should help a lot. I usually drink about 15-20 (8oz) waters a day & that seems to help! Good luck & don't get frustrated or pissed. Change it up & hopefully you will see results.

tex43

Been there done that,matter of fact haven't lost a lb in about three weeks.

The gym time will definitely add some muscle ,also you retain lot's of water if you are pumping iron specially if it's new to you.
do you have the CC adding up your sodium,if not do,and stay under.
Make sure your drinking lots of water.
Also are you measuring your neck ,gut,hips,chest,and arms?You may be dropping inches,are your clothes fitting any better?

these are just a few,got more if your interested.

I completely understand the attitude,like I said been there done that!

cdsledge09

You may want to try comparing your measurements. I had the same problem for 8 weeks straight. I worked out monitored my diet and did all of the "right" things. On the 6th week, someone recommended that I measure myself and compare those measurements. (I previously had not bothered with the measuring tape.) Come to find out, I did gain muscle and I had lost about 6 inches around my entire body. I was elated. Give it a shot. I wish you the best, and please don't give up. Believe me, I know how frustrating it can be.

:flowerforyou:

Aeriel

If the scale is not changing, take your measurements and monitor them. If you are converting fat to muscle, it is leaner and you should be losing inches somewhere. Good luck!

Oh, and sometimes it helps me to vary the amount of calories in my day. I will spend a week staying within (and under) 100 of my calorie goal, and then for a few days eat some more, especially if I have been exercising. Seems to help me jump start again when the loss slows down. Just a couple 100 calories can sometimes make a difference to trick your body.

reneeot

How the HELL do you keep motivation if you see nothing.

The scale is not the motivating factor here. You are...the desire to eat healthy and exercise to make a lifetime change. You are doing what is best for your body and that is the most important motivation. DON'T ALLOW THE SCALE TO CONTROL HOW YOU THINK!!!! So now that you have ranted, its good to get things off your chest. Never, ever think what you are doing is not worth anything just because the scale doesn't go down. Change how you react to the scale and you will not have to rant (as much!!)

Keep up the great work!!!!

:-)

blessedbirdie

I know that we are supposed to wait....and wait.....and wait for results. I even wrote a blog about the law of compensation (A lot of work.....little pay). but 3.5 weeks at the exact same weight is really pissing me off. How the HELL do you keep motivation if you see nothing. I didn't think dropping 5lbs in 3 weeks would be that difficult (especially since I have a lot more than that to lose.) I get on scale this morning and I am up 1.4lbs insteaad of down 5 (Its not like I dropped 3 then gained 1.5....I just gained). I have watched calories, exercised (4-6 times a week) watched fat. Sodium a little high but come on. Sorry about the rant I am just REALLY PISSED

Have you added anything new to your intake in the food or supplement dept.
I found that taking my supplements forced me to keep some weight on. I had gone off a week for some medical testing and I lost more that week than any other.
If not then I know it can frustrate you to not lose. There are a lot of web pages with helpful hints to break a plateau.
Add some weight while exercising with a weighted vest tricks your body and can help lose.
Are you drinking all your water?
Are you eating enough calories?
Change your exercise routine to 3 weeks of one kind of workout like a treadmill then 3 weeks of another like boxing... Jillian Michaels suggests that. She says your body gets used to the same workout. You have to mix it up.
Have you taken your measurements lately to see if any change? You could be losing inches and not weight.
Hope you find an answer. You can do this...
Roberta

metizzy2

Could it possibly be that you are gaining muscle weight with the 4-6 times a week of exercise? Good luck to you and stick with it!

Very true!!! Muscle weighs more than fat.....how about measuring yourself? I personally lose inches before losing weight.

tex43

Two more thoughts for ya,

Are you getting to much are not enough protein?

Also I have a pretty tough boot camp routine if your interested,send me your e-mail address and I'll send it to youit's an attachment.

BlackBeltLife

Thanks for all the responses.

I am changing up workouts quite a bit P90X SO daily change

Water is definatly not a problem as I believe I am close to a gallon a day

I have measured and didn't see any change there either (according to the tape). Others have told me they see a change (of course I don't)

I am definatly sticking with, just wanted to hit a certain standard by next summer, and this plateau is putting me REALLY behind and mentally exhausting as well.

Deb77

Hey, just a note.... I think 17 pounds is a lot of weight, by the way. Congratulations. Also, how about some photographs of you? Let's see what "you" look like. I need to see your food diary to see what you are eating.

islandnutshel

Go ahead and rant. Get it all out. We don't mind listening.
I'll bet it's muscel gain and it's all for the good, but that might not satisfy you right now.
Keep forging ahead and I bet that your next drop in weight will be significant. You're just building momentum for the next change.
Don't give up, you're doing great, look ahead.

Van3ssa_2468

I feel your pain.
8 weeks ago I started walking 3.5 miles (brisk) 6xper week.
I gained 5 pounds throughout the weeks.
Believe me I wanted to throw my scale out the window.
10 days ago I found this website and began logging every bite I put into my mouth.
Yesterday the scale was down 3 lbs.
I kept telling myself that this will pay off.
It took me 10 years to put on the 50 pounds I want to lose.
It will take some time and effort to get it off.
So don't quit, you can do this:)

PamelaHoneyHuggy

Shane I know the feeling. You know I do. Hang in there. We will do this together no matter HOW long it takes. Love you, MOM

unocentavo

I agree with the member who suggested HIIT. This pushed me past a similar plateau. Hang in there. It'll happen.

Here's and article I wrote on HIIT: http://www.myfitnesspal.com/blog/unocentavo/view/less-time-doing-cardio-and-burn-more-fat-i-m-listening-35125

cparter

I know that we are supposed to wait....and wait.....and wait for results. I even wrote a blog about the law of compensation (A lot of work.....little pay). but 3.5 weeks at the exact same weight is really pissing me off. How the HELL do you keep motivation if you see nothing. I didn't think dropping 5lbs in 3 weeks would be that difficult (especially since I have a lot more than that to lose.) I get on scale this morning and I am up 1.4lbs insteaad of down 5 (Its not like I dropped 3 then gained 1.5....I just gained). I have watched calories, exercised (4-6 times a week) watched fat. Sodium a little high but come on. Sorry about the rant I am just REALLY PISSED

Lets just be honest with yourself here. You are the reason you are not losing. I looked at the past 14 days and over half of the days you went over on calories and over half you did not do much of a workout. You should at least walk everday to keep your body active. Also, you have not learned what to eat. I am not sure how much you weigh but your calorie consumption setting seemed to be high. I would say you need to have a little bit more control and face the music. You have to face yourself and make a change in how often you work out or walk and the make up of food you are eating. 4k calories in a day is just pure giving up.

batty5

You are definitely NOT alone, my scales have gone UP for the 2nd time in the 10 weeks since I joined . My diary is open if anyone can shed some light please, do check out the notes section as some days have entered that days weight or notes. My base calories are set at 1,000 on doctors orders & he has told me to eat as few calories as possible. Bear in mind due to health issues I can only workout in the pool which I do for 5 or 6 hours per week & that unusually I had a few glasses of wine this week. I AM determined just a little dispirited.
Let's all vent our anger then get this job sorted, think this week may try to eat little & often see if that works.

DanniJNoles

Just remember muscle weighs more than fat. Make sure you get your day to relax. Your muscles needs that day to repair itself. Try also switching it up. take up a spinning class or something. If it's repetitive every week your body will get adjusted and not loose that weight. Take something else up to shock your muscles and get them out of that routine. Good luck!:drinker:

BlackBeltLife

4k calories in a day is just pure giving up.

Or its just me being honest (which a lot are not). This was my son's 13th birthday and I enjoyed the food with him. We call this a lifestyle change, yet we discuss what we have to give up all the time. Most of the days last week when I did not formally work out was becuse I spent all day walking around. This still should not have given me the results I got.

cardigirl

One thing I noticed in perusing your food diary, admittedly only 5 or 6 days, was that your sodium levels were pretty high. You might want to try limiting the amount of sodium in your diet more in line with what MFP recommends.

I don't know what your percentages for carbs/protein/fats are set at, but I did see that your fat grams seemed kind of high as well. You might want to play around with the percentages and see if going lower fat and higher carbs works for you. Exercising a lot requires energy food, and carbs give you lots of energy. Some people swear by going lower carb, others eat 50-60% of their calories from carbs, it's a matter of finding a strategy that works for you.

Currently I'm at 50%carbs/30%protein/20%fat and it works well, as I exercise a lot.

You can adjust the percentages of your calories in the My Home section under goals,/change goals/ custom.

Hitting a plateau IS frustrating. But keep at it!

And also, just as an aside, muscle is more dense than fat so takes up less space. A pound of muscle weighs the same as a pound of fat, but the pound of fat will be much much bigger.

butterflyangel11132009

You hang in there!!!! Thats why we have these boards so we can scream :explode: and still get support

lindalloo

First of all, thank you for sharing your diary with us... and for your honesty.

With this information, I summarized your last three weeks and did a little simple math. It goes like this:

One pound of fat = 3500 calories.
If you want to LOSE one pound in a week, you must REDUCE your calories by an average of 500 per day.
This can be done by adjusting the calories you eat (IN) or the calories you burn (OUT).
You can burn an extra 500 calories per day through exercise without adjusting your food intake (staying at 1860/day in your case).
Or if you're not exercising at all, you can eat 500 fewer calories a day.
Personally, I try to balance the two.
Some days I'll burn 500 through exercise and not adjust my food (after all, I need the food energy to keep me strong for my workout).
Other days I'll reduce my food calories by not more than 200 per day, and burn the rest through exercise.
I would never, EVER reduce my calories only (i.e. 500/day). That would be unhealthy, emotionally painful, and make me very sad!

So let's look at your last three weeks.

From August 11-17 your calories IN (food) was 17,702 and your calories OUT (exercise) was 1307. Your MFP recommended calories IN is 13,020 per week (1860 per day). So... that means you were OVER by 4682 calories (13,020 - 17,702). But you exercised, so that means you can "borrow" the calories you were over in your food from your exercise calories burned (4682 - 1307). Now that gives you a new total - 3375. But that's still over by 3375. Remember, one pound of fat equals 3500 calories. What does that mean? It means you gained one pound during the week of August 11th.

The week of August 4th was better for you. Total calories IN (food) was 16,634 and total calories OUT (exercise) was 4140. Using the same formula (13,020-16,634), you were still over at the end of the week by 3614 calories. But the better news is that you burned 4140 calories which means you can now make an adjustment (3614 - 4140). Now you're UNDER by 526 calories! Better news but still not great since you're aiming to reach 3500. During the week of August 4th, you broke even.

The week of July 28th was another break-even week for you:

Total calories IN (food) - 15,336
MFP recommended calories - 13,020
Total calories OUT (exercise) - 2202
13,020 - 15,336 = 2316 (over)
2202 - 2316 = 114 (the total number of calories you went OVER at the end of the week)

If the numbers are correct, you've lost one pound in the last three weeks.

But if you've shown a gain in the last three weeks, it could be for any number of reasons from water retention to stress (look up and read about the cortisol hormone).

This very simple mathematical formula is what I've been following and it is accurate every single week. Just remember...

If you want to LOSE one pound a week, reduce your weekly calories by 3500.

If you want to GAIN one pound a week, increase your weekly calories by 3500.

It's that simple.

Good luck to you! And don't stress over small indulgences from time to time. We're only human! :flowerforyou:

BlackBeltLife

Nice response on the math. Unfortunatly the data is a little off. I just changed my goals to 2 lbs a week which dropped me to the 1860 a day. It was 300 lb differtence per day so we are 2100 cals off as is. Also how dd you fit the 2860 cals that would break me even per day according to MFP goal settings. I appreciate the work and just wnat to make sure I am right in what I am calculating. Thanks again

JoyElizabeth

Shane - this is just MY journey and is not aimed at you or anyone else, but the psychology lesson might help you like it helped me. I like your tag "It is better to offer no excuse than a bad one" and so I feel that I can offer this to you and you won't take it the wrong way, but sometimes our psychology is more of a problem than *what* we are actually doing.

So here goes - and to help me remember it daily, I have a keyring with the Serenity Prayer on it (Grant me the SERENITY to ACCEPT the things I cannot change, the COURAGE to change the things I can, and the WISDOM to know the difference between the two).

Sometimes it's hard to hear what we don't want to hear, and even harder to handle what we don't want to have to face, but I was taught a long time ago about "up-front-honesty-with-yourself-above-all-others". It just meant that if I could HONESTLY look myself in the face but *couldn't* HONESTLY say that I was doing my best, then I had no-one else to blame but me.

But if I *could* HONESTLY say that I had done everything right to the best knowledge that *I* had at the time and it still wasn't working, then I had to do either one of two things:

1. I had to either go get help to find out what I didn't know to get me the results that I needed - AND THEN PROPERLY IMPLEMENT IT, or

2, if having done step 1 properly, I would just have to wait and KEEP DOING WHAT I KNOW TO BE RIGHT because eventually the right results would show up - if I stopped or gave up, then just as the right results would start to turn up, they would stop because I stopped.

So to help with this (and to give me patience) I would just settle back into doing my "RIGHT" thing, contenting myself that my old lifestyle would only bring old lifestyle results which had no place in my new lifestyle - I just needed to have patience to allow the situation do it's thing and properly process itself - some things just can't be rushed, and actually, are better off if they aren't. This was the "Courage to Change" part of the Serenity Prayer.

And If I've HONESTLY done these two things, and the results aren't what I expected them to be, then that's a sign to me that I have to have grace and just acknowledge and accept that sometimes this is how life goes, (This was the "ACCEPT" part of the Serenity Prayer) and be thankful that at least I have some better habits in my life. And that even though it may not be exactly what I want or expected it to be, at least it's a far cry from what I had and the road that that was leading me down - in other words, I just had to shift my priorities from the Goal to the Byproduct - sort of like aiming for the moon and landing in the stars.

I tell you this as I look at my now 40 yr old body that is just beginning a body sculpting career, and I tell you, sometimes I hold grave doubts about this body being able to look how I want it to look when I'm through (I don't know if skin has that much elasticity to get me elegantly into a bikini like a 20- or even 30-something!).

But what I *do* know is that the above formula has worked for me on many other aspects of my life and so I continue to put in my best effort knowing that even if I don't get there in looks, (wrinkly skinny older woman doesn't sound particularly attractive to me), at least I'll be fit and and healthy and way off death's door which is where my old lifestyle was leading me - a much better outcome to my way of thinking.

And with being able to come to terms with all this, and actually *LIVE* these principles rather than just talk about them, I can fully accept the accolade of being called "Wise", because I really *do* know the difference between being courageous enough to make the right changes, and knowing when to be gracious and just accept that what is, just is.

I've just recently applied this principle to my weight loss journey (knowing that most time I have done the right things, and that sometimes I haven't) and so being honest with myself, I have to own the fact that I have been responsible for this plateau that's been with me since 25th June. But holding to my process, and owning my responsibility and being courageous enough to do something about it (I hired a personal trainer for a few sessions) and just today after a week of "doing it right", I have moved through my plateau and am only a little way off my next mini-goal.

Shane, I hope you can take something from this that will help you move through this tough time, but let me tell you, this process never fails. It's not always easy to embrace the principles of being "up-front-honest-with-yourself", and sometimes even harder to do anything about it, but if you really set your ideas on what you'd like to see for yourself and then adopt this principle with a surety of heart, then you can be absolutely sure to reach your goals (even if they change a little along the way) - let me tell you from someone who knows, it is sooooo totally worth it.

All the best to you.

Kind Regards,

Joy.
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