200 grams of Protein a day
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I once followed a specific fitness program that had a nutrition plan calling for 1.5 grams protein per body weight during the fat-burning cycle. There were other specifics to the plan and a weight training along with it. I had great fat-burning results & also had LBM gains. Nothing bad about it. well, other than I was eating most of the time.0
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I get more full- that's all.
My goal is 200 and I barely make it but I'm barely trying- I just am happy to get all my food in for the day. Mine's only 40% of my macros and it's still 200. I'm usually sitting around 150 comfortably without forcing the issue.
But yes- It's good to eat that much- I feel so much more full and just way less 'icky' than when I round out my diet with carbs.0 -
Where do you find your LBM?
I think i did it once.. but don't remember and it told me something like 160ish (is that possible for me?? idk.. lol) so i try to eat somewhere around that number..
H 5'10"
W 181.8
female
BF 34% (per a trainer at the gym but i think that's high)
BMR: 1600
TDEE 2800
Your current weight is 182 lb, and 34% of that is fat (assuming for now that number is correct). Everything else is Lean body mass.
So, you have 182 * .34 = 61 lb of fat.
182 (Total) - 61 (fat) = a LBM of 121 lb.0 -
I shoot for 180/day, so 200 for a dude doesn't seem unreasonable at all. It's about what my husband shoots for and he's a strength athlete too. I need a certain amount of carbs too though, to keep my brain functioning optimally. Some people do better on low-carb diets, but through self-experimentation, I know it's high protein, low fat, and the rest carbs for me.0
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That's on par with me too; doesn't seem unreasonable. Even people in good shape who exercise a lot can still have a high body fat.Where do you find your LBM?
I think i did it once.. but don't remember and it told me something like 160ish (is that possible for me?? idk.. lol) so i try to eat somewhere around that number..
H 5'10"
W 181.8
female
BF 34% (per a trainer at the gym but i think that's high)
BMR: 1600
TDEE 2800
Your current weight is 182 lb, and 34% of that is fat (assuming for now that number is correct). Everything else is Lean body mass.
So, you have 182 * .34 = 61 lb of fat.
182 (Total) - 61 (fat) = a LBM of 121 lb.0 -
For me, more protein is better. It's only when I increase do I see an actual loss in body fat. Guess you can just experiment and see what works for you.
Same here, although it's hard to get my daily requirement sometimes.0 -
Too much protein isn't good for your body. It doesn't have the ability to process excess amounts of protein. It's harmful to your kidneys, and it causes you to use fat cells for fuel rather than carbs, and you have the risk of heart issues due to stress from kidneys malfunctioning. Make sure to educate yourself before you harm yourself.
Good luck!
I am pretty sure this is only the case if you have kidney problems. Excess protein is not harmful to healthy kidneys. Again I am fairly certain this is the case...
Sorry... just saw this was covered already.0 -
Too much protein isn't good for your body. It doesn't have the ability to process excess amounts of protein. It's harmful to your kidneys, and it causes you to use fat cells for fuel rather than carbs, and you have the risk of heart issues due to stress from kidneys malfunctioning. Make sure to educate yourself before you harm yourself.
Good luck!
I am pretty sure this is only the case if you have kidney problems. Excess protein is not harmful to healthy kidneys. Again I am fairly certain this is the case...
that's all I've ever heard/read.0 -
I can't wait to start this new magic trend of gaining muscle and not fat just by eating more...
All you need is 400 grams of protein a day. Nothing else. Doesnt matter how much you weigh and you can still weigh 125lbs BRAH!
How much do you protein tho bro?
Broooooooooooo!!!!!!
It depends. If I am doing a lot of cardio I up my protein intake by 2 grams of protein per minute. I normally take 1 gram of protein per minute when I lift, but I know that cardio eats a lot more muscle than fat so I take extra protein on those days. Thats in addition to the regular 400 in the normal diet.
Unless I workout first thing in the morning. Since I am in starvation mode when I wake up I normally drink a protein drink before working out, while working out, and then a post workout recovery drink. Except if I am doing cardio that morning. Then I just fill a camel bak full of a mixture of vodka, red bull, protein and creatine and just suck on it for the rest of the day.
Bahahahahahaha :flowerforyou:0 -
Obviously you are NOT going to gain fat by increasing your protein intake.
If you eat a caloric surplus, you sure can.0 -
Obviously you are NOT going to gain fat by increasing your protein intake.
If you eat a caloric surplus, you sure can.
OP is on the 1g of broscience per pound BW0 -
this is EXACTLY the type of thread that is misunderstood by the internet ignorant.
it started kind of trollish and then actual good information gets posted that people can learn from.0 -
When I have excessive protein (>175g a day) it offsets my carb intake, and I find that my workouts suffer. If I can't workout with sufficient intensity, I won't be stimulating as much growth, and presumably I'll be under-utilizing all that protein. So it seems self-defeating. Not trying to present this as fact - just my own personal experience.
Of course, I only have about 140lb of lean mass. If you're carrying 190lb of lean mass, perhaps you can eat 200lb of protein and still have plenty of calories left over for adequate carbs.0 -
Obviously you are NOT going to gain fat by increasing your protein intake.
If you eat a caloric surplus, you sure can.
OP is on the 1g of broscience per pound BW
:laugh:
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200g of protein a day?
not too sure..
ask my butt-hole and my stool0 -
Obviously you are NOT going to gain fat by increasing your protein intake. And as far as body weight that is also irrelevant. I know 125 pound women who do more protein than I do.
OBVIOUSLY you should stop giving "advice". You know nothing. Ok, on we go. More than 1-1.5g of protein per lb of body weight is really tough on the kidneys and liver. Your body can only process so much anyway (I think it caps at around 50g digested at a time but don't hold me to it). If you eat more, (whether it be protein, carbs, or fat) than what your body needs, you WILL gain weight. Doesn't matter where the calories come from.0 -
How do you "do" protein? Is it better for muscles than eating it? :huh: :drinker: Srs, not srs...0
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Obviously you are NOT going to gain fat by increasing your protein intake. And as far as body weight that is also irrelevant. I know 125 pound women who do more protein than I do.
OBVIOUSLY you should stop giving "advice". You know nothing. Ok, on we go. More than 1-1.5g of protein per lb of body weight is really tough on the kidneys and liver. Your body can only process so much anyway (I think it caps at around 50g digested at a time but don't hold me to it). If you eat more, (whether it be protein, carbs, or fat) than what your body needs, you WILL gain weight. Doesn't matter where the calories come from.
OBVIOUSLY you should stop giving "advice". also. Did you even read the science behind protein metabolism?
Go back and watch Layne Norton's video (the guy with a Phd in protein metabolism.. not random guy in forum).
As he says you can absorb almost any amount of protein in a meal......however the anabolic response gets maxed out at around 30-40 grams. Also it is people with existing kidney and liver problems that should not be eating too much protein.
Here is the link for you
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjmV8BlsJTQ&feature=c4-overview-vl&list=PLEEE569A5A86E2E19 0 -
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I don't think that anyone who isn't on gear is eating enough protein to cause any damage to the kidneys.
I'm eating around 1-1.2g/lb (285-340 grams) per day and I've been feeling great.
But to clear one thing up, if you do nothing and eat a +500 calorie surplus per day of pure protein over your TDEE, you're going to gain a pound of fat per week.
hell noooo brooooo it will be all muscle...dont ya know..??0 -
Obviously you are NOT going to gain fat by increasing your protein intake. And as far as body weight that is also irrelevant. I know 125 pound women who do more protein than I do.
Uh, you DO? :huh: Name three.0 -
Obviously you are NOT going to gain fat by increasing your protein intake. And as far as body weight that is also irrelevant. I know 125 pound women who do more protein than I do.
Uh, you DO? :huh: Name three.
by "doing protein" do you mean banging protein or eating protein? That is the distinction that matters....2 -
If consuming 200g of protein a day works for you and you feel great doing it.... keep doing it.0
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Obviously you are NOT going to gain fat by increasing your protein intake. And as far as body weight that is also irrelevant. I know 125 pound women who do more protein than I do.
Uh, you DO? :huh: Name three.
by "doing protein" do you mean banging protein or eating protein? That is the distinction that matters....
sad you don't know what "doing protein" is,
is like doing meth
just snort it.0 -
Obviously you are NOT going to gain fat by increasing your protein intake. And as far as body weight that is also irrelevant. I know 125 pound women who do more protein than I do.
OBVIOUSLY you should stop giving "advice". You know nothing. Ok, on we go. More than 1-1.5g of protein per lb of body weight is really tough on the kidneys and liver. Your body can only process so much anyway (I think it caps at around 50g digested at a time but don't hold me to it). If you eat more, (whether it be protein, carbs, or fat) than what your body needs, you WILL gain weight. Doesn't matter where the calories come from.
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OBVIOUSLY you should stop giving "advice". also. Did you even read the science behind protein metabolism?
Go back and watch Layne Norton's video (the guy with a Phd in protein metabolism.. not random guy in forum).
As he says you can absorb almost any amount of protein in a meal......however the anabolic response gets maxed out at around 30-40 grams. Also it is people with existing kidney and liver problems that should not be eating too much protein.
Here is the link for youhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjmV8BlsJTQ&feature=c4-overview-vl&list=PLEEE569A5A86E2E19
Ummm Ill stick to REAL science instead of YouTube science. If its on the Internet, it must be true! Read a real book. Do some real research.0 -
Yes....layne norton is published. ...but believe what you want then.0
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Layne Norton posts published research quite often, he does studies over protein metabolism, absorption and optimal protein synthesis. Like things you would find from a college library database and post for a college level course.Obviously you are NOT going to gain fat by increasing your protein intake. And as far as body weight that is also irrelevant. I know 125 pound women who do more protein than I do.
OBVIOUSLY you should stop giving "advice". You know nothing. Ok, on we go. More than 1-1.5g of protein per lb of body weight is really tough on the kidneys and liver. Your body can only process so much anyway (I think it caps at around 50g digested at a time but don't hold me to it). If you eat more, (whether it be protein, carbs, or fat) than what your body needs, you WILL gain weight. Doesn't matter where the calories come from.
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OBVIOUSLY you should stop giving "advice". also. Did you even read the science behind protein metabolism?
Go back and watch Layne Norton's video (the guy with a Phd in protein metabolism.. not random guy in forum).
As he says you can absorb almost any amount of protein in a meal......however the anabolic response gets maxed out at around 30-40 grams. Also it is people with existing kidney and liver problems that should not be eating too much protein.
Here is the link for youhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjmV8BlsJTQ&feature=c4-overview-vl&list=PLEEE569A5A86E2E19
Ummm Ill stick to REAL science instead of YouTube science. If its on the Internet, it must be true! Read a real book. Do some real research.
While alot of the top nutritionists(masters and phd of nutrition) disagree on little things, They all know that there hasnt been a set number of unhealthy protein for people with normal functioning kidneys and liver.
Now even in people with acute renal failure, they have found that .67g/kg has been effective for maintaining muscle mass due to high muscle catabloism they usually experience. That being said, that was a hospital intervention to preserve the health of a patient. In chronic renal failure they keep it 20-40g.
In regards to high protein intake where you take in more than required. There is something people do not really know.
Protein contains 4 calories. the thermic effect of protein is about 25% just to be metabolized by the liver. Excess protein will undergo gluconeogenesis which costs about 33% of the current energy it holds. That 3 calories will turn into 2.
Hypothetically if you glycogen storage was completely full(which it rarely is) it would undergo De novo lipogenesis and it consumes another 33%. it would turn into fat at 1.3 calories.
Now all of these are averages based off of studies and are highly individiaulized. in regards to the TEF of protein, many of them have agreed it is generally 25%.0 -
I eat around 200-250g a day. Though I downright thrash my body doing lifting & cardio 5 days a week. Though I spread it out over 3 meals and 2 snacks (Protein Powder).0
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I think the OP is still finding examples of 125 pound women who eat more protein than he does.
EDIT: Sorry, who "do" more protein.0 -
OK! After I cut to my goal weight, i was planning on bulking up. That includes heavy lifting and eating at a slight calorie surplus. I saw a few articles relating to this .85 grams of body weight. Now my question is, and I seen it both ways and am confused. Is that .85 grams per lean body mass or .85 grams per your total body weight? I seen both mentioned.
Here's an article that talks a bit about it... it cites a lot of sources. Also, it looks like it's 0.82 gram per pound of body weight.
http://bayesianbodybuilding.com/the-myth-of-1glb-optimal-protein-intake-for-bodybuilders/0
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