Why gluten-free?
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http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/11/08/gluten-allergies-imaginary-symptoms_n_4238418.html
People aren't "allergic" to gluten according to this specialist
"That being said, there is no doubt that people would do well not to overdo gluten in the diet namely because the processed and refined foods in which it is so often found contain little benefit to us other than being a basic form of energy. Going for healthy alternatives such as brown rice, quinoa, lentils and beans that are naturally gluten free and nutrient dense is a better way of avoiding gluten and getting more variety in the diet."
guess that answers the OP's question.0 -
Even if they don't have a gluten sensitivity, they're avoiding some very unnecessary sugar in their diet, and that's good for everyone
Gluten isn't a sugar it's a protein. :huh: Gluten has nothing to do with sugar. In fact many gluten free foods have extra sugar.0 -
Just reminds me of this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLc2hDHVHgo 0 -
it might be a fad. But unless you've actually gone a period of time without gluten to see how your body responds you have no basis to say anything about it.
Except for science....which everything should be based on. Until I see scientific evidence for something I'm not going to accept anecdotal evidence, or even personal experience, as proof.
Like the "proof" for "eating fat makes you fat"? "having too much salt on your food gives you high blood pressure", or even "eating too many eggs will give you high cholesterol"? Lots of the things that we used to take as "gospel" truth from medical studies are now known to be either based on ****ty studies or just plain data manipulation. Sometimes reading about a new idea combined with trying out something non-harmful for yourself is a better option.0 -
Even if they don't have a gluten sensitivity, they're avoiding some very unnecessary sugar in their diet, and that's good for everyone
Gluten isn't a sugar it's a protein. :huh: Gluten has nothing to do with sugar. In fact many gluten free foods have extra sugar.
I didn't say that *gluten* is a sugar, but wheat is a high glycemic index food, and many other items made with it contain extra sugar as well.0 -
it might be a fad. But unless you've actually gone a period of time without gluten to see how your body responds you have no basis to say anything about it.
Except for science....which everything should be based on. Until I see scientific evidence for something I'm not going to accept anecdotal evidence, or even personal experience, as proof.
Like the "proof" for "eating fat makes you fat"? "having too much salt on your food gives you high blood pressure", or even "eating too many eggs will give you high cholesterol"? Lots of the things that we used to take as "gospel" truth from medical studies are now known to be either based on ****ty studies or just plain data manipulation. Sometimes reading about a new idea combined with trying out something non-harmful for yourself is a better option.
^This. Scientific studies still don't take YOUR body into account.0 -
it might be a fad. But unless you've actually gone a period of time without gluten to see how your body responds you have no basis to say anything about it.
Except for science....which everything should be based on. Until I see scientific evidence for something I'm not going to accept anecdotal evidence, or even personal experience, as proof.
Like the "proof" for "eating fat makes you fat"? "having too much salt on your food gives you high blood pressure", or even "eating too many eggs will give you high cholesterol"? Lots of the things that we used to take as "gospel" truth from medical studies are now known to be either based on ****ty studies or just plain data manipulation. Sometimes reading about a new idea combined with trying out something non-harmful for yourself is a better option.
^This. Scientific studies still don't take YOUR body into account.
lol - true believers in our midst0 -
Crying for science. 0 -
A growing number of people are being diagnosed with Celiac's disease/an allergy to gluten and others feel healthier when they stop eating gluten because of less severe sensitivities that currently can't be diagnosed. I'm contemplating giving up gluten for a bit because I can't have casein and I know many that often a casein allergy/intolerance coincides with a gluten one.
Of course, many dieters think that giving up or reducing their intake of gluten is the answer to all their problems. They don't want to admit that it's their fault they're fat/unhealthy; they want something to blame. More importantly, if all they have to do is give up one ingredient/food, their weight/health problems are easy to fix!0 -
Like the "proof" for "eating fat makes you fat"? "having too much salt on your food gives you high blood pressure", or even "eating too many eggs will give you high cholesterol"? Lots of the things that we used to take as "gospel" truth from medical studies are now known to be either based on ****ty studies or just plain data manipulation. Sometimes reading about a new idea combined with trying out something non-harmful for yourself is a better option.
That's kind of my point...I didn't believe the hype for any of those fads either. Science itself is self regulating. It wasn't science saying that eating fat makes you fat, it was the media and people trying to sell you things that pretended to be scientific, got a hold of some poorly done studies, and manufactured a hype. Real science hardly ever claims causation because there are too many variable in play to make that claim, especially when it comes to nutrition and disease. By science I don't mean an article from huffington post citing a study done by a company that just so happens to sell gluten free products. I mean reliable, hardly ever changing, slow, uneventful science based in logic and sound methodology.0 -
Crying for science.
yep!
there are none so blind as those who will not see.
i also think it's hilarious that 99% of the people claiming gluten intolerance are self-diagnosed or their chiropractor or their holistic practitioner told them. :laugh:0 -
I guess I don't see why it matters what other people are doing. If you don't want to go gluten free, don't. It was through a gluten-free test that I learned my body and gluten don't get along. Am I allergic? No. Am I intolerant/sensitive? Quite possibly. Do I feel better NOT eating gluten containing foods? Absolutely. Is that simply b/c I'm eating whole unprocessed foods instead of gluten containing or gluten-free "replacement" foods? Most likely. All I know is that when I make the choice to eat a gluten containing food, I instantly feel bloated and uncomfortable and gain 6 lbs (on average - one time I gained 8 - after just one meal that involved a dinner roll) based on scale weight the next morning that requires a week long return to gluten free living to go away. Inflammatory response? Absolutely. Worth it to avoid gluten? No doubt.0
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People with IBS get prescribed a low FODMAP diet (by a proper doctor / gastro specialist) and that includes no wheat and no rye, because both are high in fructan. Also whilst it is maybe not possible to be allergic to gluten, it is possible to be allergic to wheat.
Overall though I don't think it is harmful to cut down the amount of wheat products people eat and replace it with some alternative grains. I would have thought that coeliac suffers would welcome the gluten-free diet fad a little though as it has greatly increased the amount of gluten-free products available at the local supermarket and making it easier to deal with.0 -
I don't really see why it matters what anyone else is eating. If I want to live on baked beans and bananas the rest of my life, that's my choice. Gluten free may be a fad but so is low carb, low fat, paleo, Atkins, 5:2, IF, and a myriad of others. Eat what you want, I'll eat what I want and everyone will be happy.0
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I don't really see why it matters what anyone else is eating. If I want to live on baked beans and bananas the rest of my life, that's my choice. Gluten free may be a fad but so is low carb, low fat, paleo, Atkins, 5:2, IF, and a myriad of others. Eat what you want, I'll eat what I want and everyone will be happy.
you understand the distinction between having a conversation/discussion on a forum and having police kick down somebody's door and force them at gun point not to eat gluten-free anymore, right?0 -
1) gullible
2) they feel the subconscious need to punish themselves for getting fat
3) to be trendy
I would also add to this that in my experience, people are generally stupid as a whole.0 -
Why I went gluten free (against my will, at first):
I had surgery in 2011 (sayonara, non-functioning gallbladder!). I was still having a lot of pain, and super long story short after a year they finally figured out it was nerve pain. Since I wasn't too jazzed about getting a needle put in my spine for a nerve block, my doctor suggested cutting inflammatory foods out of my diet. She originally suggested trying things one by one, but we started with gluten.
I was NOT THRILLED. I am a terrible cook, and at the time everything I ate had gluten - sandwiches, pasta, etc. I didn't want to do it, but I wanted a needle in my spine even less, so I gave it a shot.
And...it worked. I can't remember how long it took, but my pain disappeared. And if I "cheat" and have gluten (pizza is the hardest and my main "cheat"), the pain comes back. Like now, since I've been eating my face off with the holidays and the stress of starting a new job - the pain is very much there.
I will say that I don't eat all the "gluten free" food - I've seriously had ONE bite of a gluten free bread and that was enough to make me never try anything gluten free again. Sawdust is an understatement. I just eat things that never had gluten in them to begin with. It's forced me to learn how to cook more, which has no doubt helped with my weight loss. I also eat a lot of corn based things - the people at Chipotle know me well.
Yeah, it was hard at first - actually, it freaking sucked. But feeling better was, and is, worth it to me.
Call it a fad, and I do think it is to a point, but I also don't think it's a coincidence that so many people just *feel* better off of gluten. For me, it not only takes away the pain, but when I DO eat it, I feel kind of...sluggish. It makes you think...
*edited to add that I tested negative for celiac, if it matters. If you need a label, call me gluten-sensitive/intolerant.0 -
because carbs are evil because they make your muscles wither away and fat stores increase....0
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Read the book Grain Brain, by Dr David Perlmutter. Here's a section from a book review that describes the gluten problem:
"What Perlmutter brings to the table is the idea that gluten teams up with high blood sugar to wreck the brain. The presence of high blood sugar, he explains, causes a reaction throughout the body called glycation, which he describes as "the biological process whereby glucose, proteins, and certain fats become tangled together, causing tissues and cells to become stiff and inflexible, including those in the brain."
In the brain, he explains, "sugar molecules and brain proteins combine to create deadly new structures that contribute more than any other factor to the degeneration of the brain and its functioning...this is made worse when powerful antigens [a substance that triggers an immunological response] like gluten accelerate the damage. "
Glycation can't be entirely avoided, but high blood sugar, as found in diabetics, he writes, exacerbates it. Where blood sugar is high, the brain (and other bodily structures) is constantly bathed in a glycating sugar bath. Recent studies show that having diabetes doubles one's risk of contracting Alzheimer's disease, he points out. The growing understanding of the connection between the two diseases has prompted some researchers to suggest that Alzheimer's be re-labeled "Type-3 Diabetes."
"The origin of brain disease is primarily dietary," he concludes, and not hereditary, as is most commonly assumed. Gluten, by triggering the immune system, causes inflammation in the brain, which encourages the brain's glycation by sugar circulating in the blood.
Perlmutter also presents evidence that some gluten breakdown products are in an endorphin-like class of molecules called exorphins, which are addictive. "
sounds like a bunch of hogwash to me....0 -
because carbs are evil because they make your muscles wither away and fat stores increase....
You can still eat carbs on a gluten free diet - potatoes are the first thing that comes to mind.0 -
I guess I don't see why it matters what other people are doing. If you don't want to go gluten free, don't. It was through a gluten-free test that I learned my body and gluten don't get along. Am I allergic? No. Am I intolerant/sensitive? Quite possibly. Do I feel better NOT eating gluten containing foods? Absolutely.
Similar here - I was labelled wheat intolerant by a specific blood test, but I'm not allergic and I'm definitely not celiac, and hey, I can even tolerate wheat in very small amounts and gluten within ingredients. But I can't eat 'normal' bread or pasta as it's too much at once, so I buy the wheat free varieties. What I don't buy is the free-from biscuits and cakes. For one, I don't eat biscuits and cakes, and for two, all you guys saying they're full of crap, you're so right!!!
For the people who doubt that intolerances or sensitivities to wheat or gluten are real, I would have never understood it unless I experienced it first hand either. But an excess of wheat doesn't make me sick, it makes me aggressive. And after I doubted that blood test could be correct, I proved it myself through elimination and re-introduction. 14 years on and no longer struggling to control my aggression.0 -
Why is there a gluten free craze? The only people who benefit from a gluten free diet are people with celiac disease and people who are sensitive to gluten. So why do people who are not in either of those groups think they need to go "gluten-free"?
For anyone critical of anyone they know (or know of) giving up gluten, why do you care? Even if they don't have a gluten sensitivity, they're avoiding some very unnecessary sugar in their diet, and that's good for everyone Hell, try it for yourself for a month and see if it makes you feel better!
because people then tell other people that if they go gluten free they will lose weight ..which is not true..if you eat above maintenance, but it is all gluten free foods, you will still gain weight...0 -
I guess I don't see why it matters what other people are doing. If you don't want to go gluten free, don't. It was through a gluten-free test that I learned my body and gluten don't get along. Am I allergic? No. Am I intolerant/sensitive? Quite possibly. Do I feel better NOT eating gluten containing foods? Absolutely.
Similar here - I was labelled wheat intolerant by a specific blood test, but I'm not allergic and I'm definitely not celiac, and hey, I can even tolerate wheat in very small amounts and gluten within ingredients. But I can't eat 'normal' bread or pasta as it's too much at once, so I buy the wheat free varieties. What I don't buy is the free-from biscuits and cakes. For one, I don't eat biscuits and cakes, and for two, all you guys saying they're full of crap, you're so right!!!
For the people who doubt that intolerances or sensitivities to wheat or gluten are real, I would have never understood it unless I experienced it first hand either. But an excess of wheat doesn't make me sick, it makes me aggressive. And after I doubted that blood test could be correct, I proved it myself through elimination and re-introduction. 14 years on and no longer struggling to control my aggression.
Wheat is eVil and makes me do bad things0 -
Haha in my case that was a bit true. lol. I'm less evil nowI guess I don't see why it matters what other people are doing. If you don't want to go gluten free, don't. It was through a gluten-free test that I learned my body and gluten don't get along. Am I allergic? No. Am I intolerant/sensitive? Quite possibly. Do I feel better NOT eating gluten containing foods? Absolutely.
Similar here - I was labelled wheat intolerant by a specific blood test, but I'm not allergic and I'm definitely not celiac, and hey, I can even tolerate wheat in very small amounts and gluten within ingredients. But I can't eat 'normal' bread or pasta as it's too much at once, so I buy the wheat free varieties. What I don't buy is the free-from biscuits and cakes. For one, I don't eat biscuits and cakes, and for two, all you guys saying they're full of crap, you're so right!!!
For the people who doubt that intolerances or sensitivities to wheat or gluten are real, I would have never understood it unless I experienced it first hand either. But an excess of wheat doesn't make me sick, it makes me aggressive. And after I doubted that blood test could be correct, I proved it myself through elimination and re-introduction. 14 years on and no longer struggling to control my aggression.
Wheat is eVil and makes me do bad things
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because deep down we all like to believe in fairy tales
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I guess I don't see why it matters what other people are doing. If you don't want to go gluten free, don't. It was through a gluten-free test that I learned my body and gluten don't get along. Am I allergic? No. Am I intolerant/sensitive? Quite possibly. Do I feel better NOT eating gluten containing foods? Absolutely.
Similar here - I was labelled wheat intolerant by a specific blood test, but I'm not allergic and I'm definitely not celiac, and hey, I can even tolerate wheat in very small amounts and gluten within ingredients. But I can't eat 'normal' bread or pasta as it's too much at once, so I buy the wheat free varieties. What I don't buy is the free-from biscuits and cakes. For one, I don't eat biscuits and cakes, and for two, all you guys saying they're full of crap, you're so right!!!
For the people who doubt that intolerances or sensitivities to wheat or gluten are real, I would have never understood it unless I experienced it first hand either. But an excess of wheat doesn't make me sick, it makes me aggressive. And after I doubted that blood test could be correct, I proved it myself through elimination and re-introduction. 14 years on and no longer struggling to control my aggression.
Wheat is eVil and makes me do bad things
last time I did wheat I ended up in a ditch with no clothes on and then later found out I sold my house and family to someone named Quan in southeast Asia...whoops....0 -
because carbs are evil because they make your muscles wither away and fat stores increase....
You can still eat carbs on a gluten free diet - potatoes are the first thing that comes to mind.
sorry, wheat is the devil...
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The whole gluten free fad is a bit of a two edge sword for me. I'm a coeliac and first diagnosed as a toddler 35 years ago. The range and availability of products is the last few years have made my life much easier and I can now eat many products that as a child I had to go without.
However as more and more people claim to have a problem without a medical diagnosis I often encounter restaurants etc who dont realise that any gluten is a no-no and that I have to check everything.
I dont think cutting out gluten will necessary help you to lose weight as I started off on here with over 100lbs to lose. I also struggle with the whole mentality of depriving yourself from something just because of the latest fad or book.0 -
I guess I don't see why it matters what other people are doing. If you don't want to go gluten free, don't. It was through a gluten-free test that I learned my body and gluten don't get along. Am I allergic? No. Am I intolerant/sensitive? Quite possibly. Do I feel better NOT eating gluten containing foods? Absolutely.
Similar here - I was labelled wheat intolerant by a specific blood test, but I'm not allergic and I'm definitely not celiac, and hey, I can even tolerate wheat in very small amounts and gluten within ingredients. But I can't eat 'normal' bread or pasta as it's too much at once, so I buy the wheat free varieties. What I don't buy is the free-from biscuits and cakes. For one, I don't eat biscuits and cakes, and for two, all you guys saying they're full of crap, you're so right!!!
For the people who doubt that intolerances or sensitivities to wheat or gluten are real, I would have never understood it unless I experienced it first hand either. But an excess of wheat doesn't make me sick, it makes me aggressive. And after I doubted that blood test could be correct, I proved it myself through elimination and re-introduction. 14 years on and no longer struggling to control my aggression.
Wheat is eVil and makes me do bad things
last time I did wheat I ended up in a ditch with no clothes on and then later found out I sold my house and family to someone named Quan in southeast Asia...whoops....
I'm waiting on the new "wheat rage" defense in murder trials. lol
The garbage on these forums never fails to entertain.0 -
^^ I debated putting my comment on because I knew there'd be those that didn't believe what I said, and I can't be bothered defending it or arguing. What I will say is this - you wouldn't stick with GF/wheat free crap-*kitten* bread for 14 years if you weren't SURE it helped.0
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