Sugar: The Bitter Truth
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Sorry. When was science invented?
Science, in its modern usage, is a method by which hypotheses are created, tested, and recorded. This didn't really exist until the 15th, 16th century.0 -
You stated in your post petty much exactly what the video says IN AGREEMENT WITH THE VIDEO.If you went back and read my first post you would see that I didn't watch the video and stated what I choose to do for myself. My comment about scientific studies not being 100% accurate had nothing to do with this video, which again, I did not watch.
But even though you didn't watch it, you believe what it says ...
Where did I say that?
Good grief. Do people even know what they're writing? Words have meaning. I know that's a scary concept, but it's true.I didn't watch the video but regardless, I personally choose to stay away from HFCS, Aspartame and I try to limit my intake of added sugar.0 -
You stated in your post petty much exactly what the video says IN AGREEMENT WITH THE VIDEO.If you went back and read my first post you would see that I didn't watch the video and stated what I choose to do for myself. My comment about scientific studies not being 100% accurate had nothing to do with this video, which again, I did not watch.
But even though you didn't watch it, you believe what it says ...
Where did I say that?
Good grief. Do people even know what they're writing? Words have meaning. I know that's a scary concept, but it's true.
Oh I get it. So posting that I personally choose not to eat HFCS (which, BTW contributes to metabolic disease) and that I choose not to really eat anything with added sugar or aspartame for my own reasons means I believe the video.
Ok.
Gotcha.0 -
You stated in your post petty much exactly what the video says IN AGREEMENT WITH THE VIDEO.If you went back and read my first post you would see that I didn't watch the video and stated what I choose to do for myself. My comment about scientific studies not being 100% accurate had nothing to do with this video, which again, I did not watch.
But even though you didn't watch it, you believe what it says ...
Where did I say that?
Good grief. Do people even know what they're writing? Words have meaning. I know that's a scary concept, but it's true.
Oh I get it. So posting that I personally choose not to eat HFCS (which, BTW contributes to metabolic disease) and that I choose not to really eat anything with added sugar or aspartame for my own reasons means I believe the video.
Ok.
Gotcha.
Words mean things:I didn't watch the video but regardless0 -
You stated in your post petty much exactly what the video says IN AGREEMENT WITH THE VIDEO.If you went back and read my first post you would see that I didn't watch the video and stated what I choose to do for myself. My comment about scientific studies not being 100% accurate had nothing to do with this video, which again, I did not watch.
But even though you didn't watch it, you believe what it says ...
Where did I say that?
Good grief. Do people even know what they're writing? Words have meaning. I know that's a scary concept, but it's true.
Oh I get it. So posting that I personally choose not to eat HFCS (which, BTW contributes to metabolic disease) and that I choose not to really eat anything with added sugar or aspartame for my own reasons means I believe the video.
Ok.
Gotcha.
Yep. Whatever your reasons, believing that your shouldn't consume those things means you are basically in agreement with the video because that's the whole point of the video, to convince people not to consume those things. *shrug*0 -
You stated in your post petty much exactly what the video says IN AGREEMENT WITH THE VIDEO.If you went back and read my first post you would see that I didn't watch the video and stated what I choose to do for myself. My comment about scientific studies not being 100% accurate had nothing to do with this video, which again, I did not watch.
But even though you didn't watch it, you believe what it says ...
Where did I say that?
Good grief. Do people even know what they're writing? Words have meaning. I know that's a scary concept, but it's true.
Oh I get it. So posting that I personally choose not to eat HFCS (which, BTW contributes to metabolic disease) and that I choose not to really eat anything with added sugar or aspartame for my own reasons means I believe the video.
Ok.
Gotcha.
Metabolically speaking, how does HFCS differ from let's say sucrose in an apple?0 -
People haven't believed the Earth was flat for a few thousand years. The Ancient Greeks proved it was round.
There are actually plenty of scientists on this board.I didn't watch the video but regardless, I personally choose to stay away from HFCS, Aspartame and I try to limit my intake of added sugar.
Despite what everyone here may say or think (and as far as I know no one on here is a scientist. Just sayin') I choose to do what I feel is right for me.
Actual scientists used to believe the world was flat. Doesn't mean they were right.0 -
When science diverged from the Church. When everyone thought the world was flat, it was because of how clergy interpreted the Bible, not based on any actual scientific research. This is also why they claimed the sun revolved around the earth and Galileo was a heretic.
There are actually plenty of scientists on this board.I didn't watch the video but regardless, I personally choose to stay away from HFCS, Aspartame and I try to limit my intake of added sugar.
Despite what everyone here may say or think (and as far as I know no one on here is a scientist. Just sayin') I choose to do what I feel is right for me.
Actual scientists used to believe the world was flat. Doesn't mean they were right.
'Science' didn't really exist the last time people thought the world was flat. FYI.
Sorry. When was science invented?
The point was that the people that taught this were regarded as the leaders of their day to be followed without question. Just because someone has a prestigious title attached to their name doesn't mean they are always correct.0 -
You stated in your post petty much exactly what the video says IN AGREEMENT WITH THE VIDEO.If you went back and read my first post you would see that I didn't watch the video and stated what I choose to do for myself. My comment about scientific studies not being 100% accurate had nothing to do with this video, which again, I did not watch.
But even though you didn't watch it, you believe what it says ...
Where did I say that?
Good grief. Do people even know what they're writing? Words have meaning. I know that's a scary concept, but it's true.
Oh I get it. So posting that I personally choose not to eat HFCS (which, BTW contributes to metabolic disease) and that I choose not to really eat anything with added sugar or aspartame for my own reasons means I believe the video.
Ok.
Gotcha.
[CITATION NEEDED]
Please?
Here take mine:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20471804
"The progressive replacement of sucrose by HFCS is however unlikely to be directly involved in the epidemy of metabolic disease, because HFCS appears to have basically the same metabolic effects as sucrose."
TL;DR for the whole thread: Eating too much sugar is bad for you because calories.0 -
When science diverged from the Church. When everyone thought the world was flat, it was because of how clergy interpreted the Bible, not based on any actual scientific research. This is also why they claimed the sun revolved around the earth and Galileo was a heretic.
There are actually plenty of scientists on this board.I didn't watch the video but regardless, I personally choose to stay away from HFCS, Aspartame and I try to limit my intake of added sugar.
Despite what everyone here may say or think (and as far as I know no one on here is a scientist. Just sayin') I choose to do what I feel is right for me.
Actual scientists used to believe the world was flat. Doesn't mean they were right.
'Science' didn't really exist the last time people thought the world was flat. FYI.
Sorry. When was science invented?
Hmmmm. I wonder what the ancient Mayans, Egyptians, and Chinese would think of this definition of when "science" was "invented."0 -
Not quite true. Only the uneducated masses believed the Earth was flat in the Middle Ages. The whole thing about Columbus wanting to prove the world was round is a myth, as everyone already knew the world was round.
When science diverged from the Church. When everyone thought the world was flat, it was because of how clergy interpreted the Bible, not based on any actual scientific research. This is also why they claimed the sun revolved around the earth and Galileo was a heretic.
There are actually plenty of scientists on this board.I didn't watch the video but regardless, I personally choose to stay away from HFCS, Aspartame and I try to limit my intake of added sugar.
Despite what everyone here may say or think (and as far as I know no one on here is a scientist. Just sayin') I choose to do what I feel is right for me.
Actual scientists used to believe the world was flat. Doesn't mean they were right.
'Science' didn't really exist the last time people thought the world was flat. FYI.
Sorry. When was science invented?0 -
This video changed the way I perceive sugars in my diet, and I would like to share it with you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM
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It's good that you used one source of information (a youtube video) to change your perceptions. Solid approach to learning you have there.0 -
You stated in your post petty much exactly what the video says IN AGREEMENT WITH THE VIDEO.If you went back and read my first post you would see that I didn't watch the video and stated what I choose to do for myself. My comment about scientific studies not being 100% accurate had nothing to do with this video, which again, I did not watch.
But even though you didn't watch it, you believe what it says ...
Where did I say that?
Good grief. Do people even know what they're writing? Words have meaning. I know that's a scary concept, but it's true.
Oh I get it. So posting that I personally choose not to eat HFCS (which, BTW contributes to metabolic disease) and that I choose not to really eat anything with added sugar or aspartame for my own reasons means I believe the video.
Ok.
Gotcha.
Metabolically speaking, how does HFCS differ from let's say sucrose in an apple?
Allow me to answer this one. LOL! :laugh:0 -
You stated in your post petty much exactly what the video says IN AGREEMENT WITH THE VIDEO.If you went back and read my first post you would see that I didn't watch the video and stated what I choose to do for myself. My comment about scientific studies not being 100% accurate had nothing to do with this video, which again, I did not watch.
But even though you didn't watch it, you believe what it says ...
Where did I say that?
Good grief. Do people even know what they're writing? Words have meaning. I know that's a scary concept, but it's true.
Oh I get it. So posting that I personally choose not to eat HFCS (which, BTW contributes to metabolic disease) and that I choose not to really eat anything with added sugar or aspartame for my own reasons means I believe the video.
Ok.
Gotcha.
Metabolically speaking, how does HFCS differ from let's say sucrose in an apple?
Allow me to answer this one. LOL! :laugh:
http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2008/dec2008_Metabolic-Dangers-of-High-Fructose-Corn-Syrup_01.htm?source=search&key=hfcs0 -
You stated in your post petty much exactly what the video says IN AGREEMENT WITH THE VIDEO.If you went back and read my first post you would see that I didn't watch the video and stated what I choose to do for myself. My comment about scientific studies not being 100% accurate had nothing to do with this video, which again, I did not watch.
But even though you didn't watch it, you believe what it says ...
Where did I say that?
Good grief. Do people even know what they're writing? Words have meaning. I know that's a scary concept, but it's true.
Oh I get it. So posting that I personally choose not to eat HFCS (which, BTW contributes to metabolic disease) and that I choose not to really eat anything with added sugar or aspartame for my own reasons means I believe the video.
Ok.
Gotcha.
Metabolically speaking, how does HFCS differ from let's say sucrose in an apple?
Allow me to answer this one. LOL! :laugh:
http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2008/dec2008_Metabolic-Dangers-of-High-Fructose-Corn-Syrup_01.htm?source=search&key=hfcs
It is not specifically HFCS that does this. It's the overconsumption of sugar/carbohydrate in general. This is exceeding your macronutrient needs for carbs. Greatly exceeding your macronutrient needs in most forms (with some exceptions for protein for some reason) have been correlated with (not causation) diabetes and several other bad things. Most of the time this includes caloric excess as well, but isn't always a requirement.
I wish that article would provide links to their citations so we could review it and make our own conclusions instead of having it cherry picked.0 -
Dr. Robert Lustig has a good book out called Fat Chance. He's a pediatric doctor at UCSF hospital and conducted research focussing on obese children and babies, and has made some interesting observations on nutrition and triggers for causing weight gain.0
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You stated in your post petty much exactly what the video says IN AGREEMENT WITH THE VIDEO.If you went back and read my first post you would see that I didn't watch the video and stated what I choose to do for myself. My comment about scientific studies not being 100% accurate had nothing to do with this video, which again, I did not watch.
But even though you didn't watch it, you believe what it says ...
Where did I say that?
Good grief. Do people even know what they're writing? Words have meaning. I know that's a scary concept, but it's true.
Oh I get it. So posting that I personally choose not to eat HFCS (which, BTW contributes to metabolic disease) and that I choose not to really eat anything with added sugar or aspartame for my own reasons means I believe the video.
Ok.
Gotcha.
Metabolically speaking, how does HFCS differ from let's say sucrose in an apple?
Allow me to answer this one. LOL! :laugh:
http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2008/dec2008_Metabolic-Dangers-of-High-Fructose-Corn-Syrup_01.htm?source=search&key=hfcs
It is not specifically HFCS that does this. It's the overconsumption of sugar/carbohydrate in general. This is exceeding your macronutrient needs for carbs. Greatly exceeding your macronutrient needs in most forms (with some exceptions for protein for some reason) have been correlated with (not causation) diabetes and several other bad things. Most of the time this includes caloric excess as well, but isn't always a requirement.
I wish that article would provide links to their citations so we could review it and make our own conclusions instead of having it cherry picked.
http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2008/dec2008_Metabolic-Dangers-of-High-Fructose-Corn-Syrup_02.htm
References at the bottom, some epidemiological studies, animal studies etc0 -
Dr. Robert Lustig has a good book out called Fat Chance. He's a pediatric doctor at UCSF hospital and conducted research focussing on obese children and babies, and has made some interesting observations on nutrition and triggers for causing weight gain.
By good to mean for a work of fiction?
Scientific Review of Lustig's Fat Chance by Dr. Mark Kern
bit.ly/10NV0Lz
CONCLUSION
Fat Chance: Beating the Odds Against Sugar, Processed Food,
Obesity and Disease is the product of one individual’s point of
view – a perspective that is not supported by the vast majority of
scientific research on nutrition and metabolism. This review highlights
the critical need for the increased communication of weight management
strategies that are science-based and realistic. As we’ve witnessed in
the past several decades, blaming one particular food or ingredient for
the obesity and chronic disease rates in America is unsubstantiated;
restriction and avoidance of particular foods (especially those that are
most enjoyed by many consumers) is not a sustainable healthy eating
strategy. Numerous scientific authorities, including the Academy for
Nutrition and Dietetics, have acknowledged that the most effective
way to achieve and sustain a healthy weight is to exercise regularly
and eat a balanced, nutrient-dense diet that allows for the enjoyment
of all foods within individual calorie limits. Books like Fat Chance are
regressive and only serve to increase consumer confusion about nutrition,
rather than help create smarter consumers who are able to make informed
decisions about their health.0 -
Dr. Robert Lustig has a good book out
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You stated in your post petty much exactly what the video says IN AGREEMENT WITH THE VIDEO.If you went back and read my first post you would see that I didn't watch the video and stated what I choose to do for myself. My comment about scientific studies not being 100% accurate had nothing to do with this video, which again, I did not watch.
But even though you didn't watch it, you believe what it says ...
Where did I say that?
Good grief. Do people even know what they're writing? Words have meaning. I know that's a scary concept, but it's true.
Oh I get it. So posting that I personally choose not to eat HFCS (which, BTW contributes to metabolic disease) and that I choose not to really eat anything with added sugar or aspartame for my own reasons means I believe the video.
Ok.
Gotcha.
Metabolically speaking, how does HFCS differ from let's say sucrose in an apple?
Allow me to answer this one. LOL! :laugh:
http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2008/dec2008_Metabolic-Dangers-of-High-Fructose-Corn-Syrup_01.htm?source=search&key=hfcs
It is not specifically HFCS that does this. It's the overconsumption of sugar/carbohydrate in general. This is exceeding your macronutrient needs for carbs. Greatly exceeding your macronutrient needs in most forms (with some exceptions for protein for some reason) have been correlated with (not causation) diabetes and several other bad things. Most of the time this includes caloric excess as well, but isn't always a requirement.
I wish that article would provide links to their citations so we could review it and make our own conclusions instead of having it cherry picked.
Apparently you and I read different articles.0 -
You stated in your post petty much exactly what the video says IN AGREEMENT WITH THE VIDEO.If you went back and read my first post you would see that I didn't watch the video and stated what I choose to do for myself. My comment about scientific studies not being 100% accurate had nothing to do with this video, which again, I did not watch.
But even though you didn't watch it, you believe what it says ...
Where did I say that?
Good grief. Do people even know what they're writing? Words have meaning. I know that's a scary concept, but it's true.
Oh I get it. So posting that I personally choose not to eat HFCS (which, BTW contributes to metabolic disease) and that I choose not to really eat anything with added sugar or aspartame for my own reasons means I believe the video.
Ok.
Gotcha.
Metabolically speaking, how does HFCS differ from let's say sucrose in an apple?
Allow me to answer this one. LOL! :laugh:
http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2008/dec2008_Metabolic-Dangers-of-High-Fructose-Corn-Syrup_01.htm?source=search&key=hfcs
I wasn't actually picking on you; I was picking on myself, referring to when I answered before, when Acg posed the same exact question.
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Conformation bias is like high blood pressure.......the person isn't aware that it's taking place.
You stated in your post petty much exactly what the video says IN AGREEMENT WITH THE VIDEO.If you went back and read my first post you would see that I didn't watch the video and stated what I choose to do for myself. My comment about scientific studies not being 100% accurate had nothing to do with this video, which again, I did not watch.
But even though you didn't watch it, you believe what it says ...
Where did I say that?
Good grief. Do people even know what they're writing? Words have meaning. I know that's a scary concept, but it's true.
Oh I get it. So posting that I personally choose not to eat HFCS (which, BTW contributes to metabolic disease) and that I choose not to really eat anything with added sugar or aspartame for my own reasons means I believe the video.
Ok.
Gotcha.
Metabolically speaking, how does HFCS differ from let's say sucrose in an apple?
Allow me to answer this one. LOL! :laugh:
http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2008/dec2008_Metabolic-Dangers-of-High-Fructose-Corn-Syrup_01.htm?source=search&key=hfcs
It is not specifically HFCS that does this. It's the overconsumption of sugar/carbohydrate in general. This is exceeding your macronutrient needs for carbs. Greatly exceeding your macronutrient needs in most forms (with some exceptions for protein for some reason) have been correlated with (not causation) diabetes and several other bad things. Most of the time this includes caloric excess as well, but isn't always a requirement.
I wish that article would provide links to their citations so we could review it and make our own conclusions instead of having it cherry picked.
Apparently you and I read different articles.0 -
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