Logging for 115 days. nothing to show for it...

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a_lynn_white

Yeah, you definitely need to really think about being honest with yourself.....Most days it looks like you hardly eat anything, but you are still over your calorie limits.....It's great that you are logging, but it is time to take this to the next level of commitment if you really want to see GOOD results......You need to really measure your food, and add good amounts of exercise to that.

Arbeidslyst

running a bit out of ideas here. I've been logging for 115 days now .


After around 25 days I got a weighing machine.

I weighed 256 on the Wednesday I bought one .

I was 248 like last Wednesday (the Wednesday before)

This Wednesday I was 251....



on around 2000 Kcal, should I be losing more? I would love some advice. I wish I knew how to attach pictures as I have before and after as well

What is your numbers? Hight & Weight, your BMR? Is 2000 calories what mfp gave you? What is your activiry level? How do you calculate exercise calories?

FinallyFitMommy

UNWANTED backlash.. I'm saying what works for me. If I ate all carbs, all day long, I would not lose weight. If I lower my carbs, and watch my fat intake as well, I have a great number on the scale the next time I weigh in. Don't tell me I'm wrong, when I've found what works for me. I measure my food, I count every morsel of everything that goes in my mouth, even a lick, is all counted. I'm honest with myself, and my diary is open, even though that can be embarrassing. I've made great friends on here that don't judge me.
For ME it is more than just calories in, calories out. I can eat 1200 calories of veggies, or i can eat 1200 calories of crap. One will make me lose weight, one will not. That is how my body works.

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Bridgeplayer69

http://www.coachcalorie.com/not-eating-enough-calories-to-lose-weight/
http://scoobysworkshop.com/calorie-calculator/

I don't think you are eating enough.

patols1

I guess I am confused because I looked at your diary and you are over your calorie limit almost every day and some days by as many as 500 calories. unless you aren't accounting for your exercise I think you would be gaining weight.

i am reading the diaries wrong?? -500 in red means you went over on calories correct?

When you lose weight and adjust your calories all of the previous entries will show you over calories even if for your weight at the time you where under.

I just started making diary notes so I can see how many calories I was under.

ok... i understand that.. thank you..

however if i am reading the op correctly she hasn't lost weight , so therefore is going over her calorie goal. (i assume if she isn't losing she hasn't adjusted her calories).

jardin12

You can have a calorie deficit and not lose weight. However, if that's the case you need to see a dr. Because, yes, you are correct in that 99% of the time the math should work (more out than in = weight loss). That said, protein builds muscle. Muscle is more dense than fat (one of the other by products of our food intake). You may lose a pound of fat, but gain a pound of muscle. If that's the case you should see a difference in your physical measurements rather than the scale. If you are like me, and your body does not breakdown carbs for energy, rather it stores them as fat, then you can eat less calories than you are burining and still have a problem losing weight.

I always understood using the muscles build muscle and to build muscle you need to be at a surplus and lifting at least. Protien helps repair muscle from the use...

and no you wont lose fat and gain muscle at a deficet unless it's noobie gains...

What the heck are noobie gains?

SezxyStef

UNWANTED backlash.. I'm saying what works for me. If I ate all carbs, all day long, I would not lose weight. If I lower my carbs, and watch my fat intake as well, I have a great number on the scale the next time I weigh in. Don't tell me I'm wrong, when I've found what works for me. I measure my food, I count every morsel of everything that goes in my mouth, even a lick, is all counted. I'm honest with myself, and my diary is open, even though that can be embarrassing. I've made great friends on here that don't judge me.
For ME it is more than just calories in, calories out. I can eat 1200 calories of veggies, or i can eat 1200 calories of crap. One will make me lose weight, one will not. That is how my body works.

Well you knew it was coming...so least you were prepared...

BTW you don't weight your food you use cups ect...you are eating more then think and until you get a food scale you always will.

And I am not judging you at all...yah for you being here trying to lose weight.

And unless you have a medical condition diagnosed by a doctor it is calories in vs calories out....

SezxyStef

You can have a calorie deficit and not lose weight. However, if that's the case you need to see a dr. Because, yes, you are correct in that 99% of the time the math should work (more out than in = weight loss). That said, protein builds muscle. Muscle is more dense than fat (one of the other by products of our food intake). You may lose a pound of fat, but gain a pound of muscle. If that's the case you should see a difference in your physical measurements rather than the scale. If you are like me, and your body does not breakdown carbs for energy, rather it stores them as fat, then you can eat less calories than you are burining and still have a problem losing weight.

I always understood using the muscles build muscle and to build muscle you need to be at a surplus and lifting at least. Protien helps repair muscle from the use...

and no you wont lose fat and gain muscle at a deficet unless it's noobie gains...

What the heck are noobie gains?

my understanding of "noobie gains" are that if you are new to lifiting weights you "CAN" see increase in muscle for a short while even if you are eating at a deficet...

ETA: Normally to gain muscle you have to eat at a surplus...and it takes a lot of time...

Someone please correct me if I am not correct in my understanding.

shamansa

I think most of you have a decent point.


Looking back at my diary I can do much better.

I was mistaken in thinking that being 200-300 calories over board some days is alright.


I'll try and be very specific with the food now. Thanks.

ILiftHeavyAcrylics

I think most of you have a decent point.


Looking back at my diary I can do much better.

I was mistaken in thinking that being 200-300 calories over board some days is alright.


I'll try and be very specific with the food now. Thanks.

Sometimes, sure. Just make sure you're hitting your calorie goal 6 days out of 7 and you should be fine.

sloth3toes

I think most of you have a decent point.


Looking back at my diary I can do much better.

I was mistaken in thinking that being 200-300 calories over board some days is alright.


I'll try and be very specific with the food now. Thanks.

You might want to enlighten us with a few stats.... so we can help you be a bit more accurate.

But, here's the thing. If you set up your goal weight loss as 1/2 lb per week, that's a 250 calorie per day deficit. So, if you go over an average of 250 calories per day, you'd stay at the same weight. And that's not accounting for inaccuracy, which is most likely not to go in your favor. So, if you're set for 1/2 lb per week, and you log it as if you're going 250 calories over, on average per day.... and you are actually going 500 calories over... then, you're gaining 1/2 lb per week.

I'd like to draw your attention to a post ( not mine ) that helps to explain why no matter how accurately you attempt to log... there's always gonna be a margin of error.

http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1119567-accuracy-of-the-you-d-weigh-xxx-in-5-weeks?page=2

There is a reason it isn't accurate and it's simple. Measurements of any kind involve an error, normally modeled with a statistical distribution around the true measure. Let's say your logging is off by 5% and your TDEE is off by 15%. Then you're off by 20% for the day. Specific numbers: TDEE estimated at 2800 kcals; logs estimate intake of 1400 kcals. The number it'll tell you for 5 weeks is 35 * 1400 / 3500 = 14lbs lost. But your actually TDEE Is 2380 and your actual intake is 1470, so your actual deficit is 910, and the real value for 5 week is is 35 * 910 / 3500 = 9.1lbs. These error rates are totally reasonable even if you weigh and measure your food and use something sophisticated like a bodymedia device or other tracker to estimate your TDEE.

And, the errors you make are different every day. Take any 100 calorie error and multiply it by 35 days and you're off by a whole pound.

It simply can't be accurate, it isn't averaging together enough data to be accurate.

Osric

carolina822

I think you should be proud of the fact that you haven't gained over that time period. No, it's not moving the other way yet and if that's important to you you'll have to tighten up a bit, but you've obviously made a change from at least some of what you were doing before and that's a step in the right direction.

Mr_Knight

If I ate all carbs, all day long, I would not lose weight.

If you ate *anything* all day long, you would not lose weight.

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